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Are Muslim men more likely than Hindu men to engage in eve-teasing?

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by akhilis2cool » Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:10 pm

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by ~akidna~ » Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:30 pm





still nuttin :roll:
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by daisy » Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:56 pm

azazel wrote:p.s: its not Muslims or Hindus or Christians or anybody else, its the morons who indulge in it..




i totally agree
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by Bimbette » Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:51 pm

The last time I was eve-teased, I didnt stop and try and figure out the guy's religion....!



S, u seem to be an articulate person. I read with interest your point of view.



The part where u mentioned being leched at/shoved in Old city made me wonder.....the instances of such incidents are high in any crowded place. At any point of time the Old City is usually full of ppl (read men). The Old City happens to be a Muslim dominated area so maybe u equating eve-teasing with religion stems from bad experiences there.



Bottom line, Eveteasers are frustrated u-know-what and should just be ignored. They'll pay a price for whatever they do, coz what goes around comes around.
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by CtrlAltDel » Wed Dec 08, 2004 12:34 am

mark wrote:
~akidna~ wrote:one of my experience....this once a friend n me were goin to lifestyle...from amrutha mall...n these 2 freaks kept on followin us and sayin ....please yaar...come to lunch with us....dont say no yaar...n crap....we lost em for a while....then my frd left..n one of those guys came again n said....Hi im Raj...Mujhse dosti karoge babe(guy had a bad hindi n eng accent....i felt like stabbing him)...but as i have learnt....IGNORING SUCH JERKS IS THE BEST WAY
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by malakpetmasala » Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:57 am

so sosme one did meet Raj.

Man, i thought internet was the only way to express himself.
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by hyderabadi aurat » Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:58 am

Bimbette wrote:
Bottom line, Eveteasers are frustrated u-know-what and should just be ignored. They'll pay a price for whatever they do, coz what goes around comes around.


THEY will pay a price ?! How? Bhagwan ich paap dega?

OR

Jaanedo, becharaa? bachpan mein kaise kaise aaltu faltu experienceaan guzarna padak ee kya ki ! huh ?

yeah, right.

Baby, if we have girls like you, who say
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Bottom line, Eveteasers are frustrated u-know-what and should just be ignored. They'll pay a price for whatever they do, coz what goes around comes around.
[b], humare jaise girls asich poochenge aapke jaise babyion ko.
:roll:

Dress right. Walk right. Feel right. Be tough and show it. Body language should be such that you do not invite such filth around you. Take some martial arts' classes and you would know the difference.
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by Der Schakal » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:11 am

Are we looking at a Cat Fight? :twisted:
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by hydi aurat » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:28 am

Der Schakal wrote:Are we looking at a Cat Fight? :twisted:




Beware of such guys too, Bimbette and other hydi auratein.
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by Der Schakal » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:41 am

Yes beware of The Jackal.He is looking for his next prey........... :twisted:
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by s » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:56 am

Let's not even get started on the clothing angle. It doesnt take a girl in a tube-top and mini to get these lowly f*@#s started with their crap. Anything that vaguely resembles a female is enough (whether she be 16 or 60, which is how old my grandma was when she got touched on the street the other day)!!!



So anyone who goes off on the "girls-invite-attention-and-cause-the-eveteasing-problem" route should just zip it.
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by Der Schakal » Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:58 am

s wrote:So anyone who goes off on the "girls-invite-attention-and-cause-the-eveteasing-problem" route should just zip it.
Who the hell said that? :shock: :shock: :shock: Thats just plain BS.



Anyway sorry about your grandma.Which cheap guy would do that? :evil: :evil: :evil:
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by malakpetmasala » Wed Dec 08, 2004 7:12 am

hyderabadi aurat wrote:
Bimbette wrote:
Bottom line, Eveteasers are frustrated u-know-what and should just be ignored. They'll pay a price for whatever they do, coz what goes around comes around.


THEY will pay a price ?! How? Bhagwan ich paap dega?

OR

Jaanedo, becharaa? bachpan mein kaise kaise aaltu faltu experienceaan guzarna padak ee kya ki ! huh ?

yeah, right.

Baby, if we have girls like you, who say
Bimbette wrote:
Bottom line, Eveteasers are frustrated u-know-what and should just be ignored. They'll pay a price for whatever they do, coz what goes around comes around.
[b], humare jaise girls asich poochenge aapke jaise babyion ko.
:roll:

Dress right. Walk right. Feel right. Be tough and show it. Body language should be such that you do not invite such filth around you. Take some martial arts' classes and you would know the difference.




or just go watch kill Bill a couple of times.
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Re: EVE TEASING

by lonewolf » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:40 am

I'm a guy, so I'm not voting.



I think eve-teasing aka sexual harassment in India is more to do with a combination of family upbringing and peer group, than with a particular community. Madras is supposed to be the hotbed for eve-teasing (or at least it was) in South India. And Delhi is the rape capital of Asia. So, technically, Hyderabad is better than those cities if you are doing a comparison :P Its horrible enough, though.



Mark, seriously, what made you say Christians beat up their parents? Its one of the stupidest comments I've read on fullHyd.com. Most of my Christian friends in India treat their parents as friends. When I was in Hyderabad, I used to shop only when my parents accompanied me. Whenever I was in a problem or had some good news, they would be the first to know. Next time you post something, click on Preview before clicking Submit, and make sure you spend some time reading it before you click Submit.
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Re: EVE TEASING

by malakpetmasala » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:52 am

lonewolf wrote:I'm a guy, so I'm not voting.

I think eve-teasing aka sexual harassment in India is more to do with a combination of family upbringing and peer group, than with a particular community. Madras is supposed to be the hotbed for eve-teasing (or at least it was) in South India. And Delhi is the rape capital of Asia. So, technically, Hyderabad is better than those cities if you are doing a comparison :P Its horrible enough, though.

Mark, seriously, what made you say Christians beat up their parents? Its one of the stupidest comments I've read on fullHyd.com. Most of my Christian friends in India treat their parents as friends. When I was in Hyderabad, I used to shop only when my parents accompanied me. Whenever I was in a problem or had some good news, they would be the first to know. Next time you post something, click on Preview before clicking Submit, and make sure you spend some time reading it before you click Submit.


he was just being sarcastic, LW
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Re: EVE TEASING

by lonewolf » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:01 am

malakpetmasala wrote:he was just being sarcastic, LW




I really hope so MM
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by akhilis2cool » Wed Dec 08, 2004 9:17 am

~akidna~ wrote:


still nuttin :roll:
i can see it.....
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Being a muslim, hindu or a christian does not matter!!!!!!!!

by enigma » Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:04 am

I feel eve teasing is a result of various reasons one being a repressive society where women have no voice and nothing resembling equal rights. Influence of western media and culture is one of the primary cause. Eve teasing has shown no signs of abating even as the country shows development. The root cause of the problem is the socio-economic background of the individual indulging in such activities which has to be considered before seeking a lasting and effective solution. Laws in effect for eve teasing dont make much impact, punishment alone cannot solve the crime



Increase in educational levels only make women more aware of their own identity but there is no change in the patriarchal and conservative structure of family and society. Internet and television expose the new generations to a Western, liberal, explosive lifestyle, but on the other hand they live in a society which refuses to shift from the orthodox, male chauvinistic mode.



I feel eve teasing does not relate to religion. We were eve teased in delhi majority of them who indulged in such activities were people from north because they formed the majority of the population. Eve teasing has nothing to do with being a muslim,hindu or a christian, it depends on so many factors(peer pressure,socio economic more exposure to western media and culture, rigid male chauvinistic ideology, etc) so instead of stating a muslim guy teases girls more than a hindu guy lets try and bring about a change in society in general, as i had pointed out earlier it has nothing to do with the place, or the religion it has more to do with the people and their attitudes because people form places and religions.
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by Sharjeel » Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:43 am

Increase in educational levels only make women more aware of their own identity but there is no change in the patriarchal and conservative structure of family and society. Internet and television expose the new generations to a Western, liberal, explosive lifestyle, but on the other hand they live in a society which refuses to shift from the orthodox, male chauvinistic mode.
Conservative society ke waah se hi women in India are respected so much.



I can also give a hundred example in which men (of all religion) took up a lot of pain to avoid putting females in an uncomfortable situation (even tho they would not have minded so much). So it works both ways.



Eve-teasing will happen everywhere. Hyd main zyaadas hai kyoonki Hyd main abhi bhi some bastards are yet to come out of the 'nawaab' mode. Which is why, in Hyd, eve-teasing will be much more likely bo done by Muslims becoz Hyde muslims are more conservative (The close link to UAE, and the nawaabi-ness helps :x )
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by enigma » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:00 am

Sharjeel wrote:

Eve-teasing will happen everywhere. Hyd main zyaadas hai kyoonki Hyd main abhi bhi some bastards are yet to come out of the 'nawaab' mode. Which is why, in Hyd, eve-teasing will be much more likely bo done by Muslims becoz Hyde muslims are more conservative (The close link to UAE, and the nawaabi-ness helps :x )






I dont agree that hyderabad mein zyada hai karke. This menace is spread across the country. In hyderabad muslims may engage in eve teasing more, same way in delhi punjus indulge more. Instead of categorising this issue on the basis of religion lets deal it as an universal problem. A man indulging in such a disgusting activity is bound to feel like a nawab whether he is based at hyderabad or in delhi
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by akhilis2cool » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:02 am

he will feel like a nawab if he gets away with it.

he will not feel like one with a black ring around his eyes :evil:
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Re: EVE TEASING

by mark » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:13 am

lonewolf wrote:Next time you post something, click on Preview before clicking Submit, and make sure you spend some time reading it before you click Submit.






will do, thanks for the advice.
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by Sharjeel » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:14 am

akhilis2cool wrote:he will feel like a nawab if he gets away with it.
he will not feel like one with a black ring around his eyes :evil:
lol!



But it is true. Hyd main kuchh zyaada hi harrasment hota hai (there is a difference between teasing and harassment). And I know for a fact that this is done 'to teach the bold idiots a lesson' ( :? ).



What do they want? Pallu main chhup ke rahe ladkiyaan din bhar unke pairon main?
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by Sharjeel » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:23 am

enigma wrote:I dont agree that hyderabad mein zyada hai karke. This menace is spread across the country. In hyderabad muslims may engage in eve teasing more, same way in delhi punjus indulge more. Instead of categorising this issue on the basis of religion lets deal it as an universal problem. A man indulging in such a disgusting activity is bound to feel like a nawab whether he is based at hyderabad or in delhi
You are right.



Hyd main thodi zyaada harrasment hota hai. Teasing is an irritant (at worst), but harrasment is not. Which is why I talk about nawaabi-ness.
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by s » Wed Dec 08, 2004 11:52 am

I do not think anyone has been able to poke a decent hole in my theory yet. (Please refer to some longer earlier posts by me). All people are saying is that "No, its not based on religion" or "Let's think of a solution instead" . I'm all for a solution but my original interest was in whtehr it si linked to religion. So I'm still sticking by that.



So this is my thought process:

1. The north in general has more eveteasing than the south (this is statistically true by police records although a lot of this goes unreported). 2. In the south, Hyderabad has more eveteasing than other cities (my and my friends' anecdotal evidence)

3. I think eveteasing is more in Hyd because Hyd is more like the north than other southern cities. It has a more hetereogeneous population. The Mughal invasion was from the North as we all know, so cultural attributes between the North and Hyd are similar in many ways.

4. Given that is true, most eveteasers up north may well be Hindu. But in Hyderabad, it is the Muslims who evetease more, because culturally Hyderabadi Muslims share more attributes with Northerners(both Hindu and Muslim northerners) than non-muslims in Hyd share with Northerners i.e. attributes like highly patriarchal families, lesser education on average for women, lower female labor force participation on average

5. In summary, I'm saying that Muslims in Hyd share a lot of cultural and socio-economic attributes with people of any religion in the North. So if you have a lot of eveteasing up North, and if you have similar people in Hyd, they you will have a lot of eveteasing in Hyd.



I'm still waiting for an intelligent rebuttal which bears in mind these 5 points instead of blatantly claiming that my words are not true, or just telling me lets focus on a solution. I'm interested in the problem for now, not the solution ,altough I believe solution is very needed.
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