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[Jaan]

And since Eve was made from the ribs of Adam, The first humans were clones and technically Adam is a hermaphrodite.

Have you heard of an old joke that Adam asked God for a perfect woman companion and God replied that it will cost him an arm and leg. So, our Adma says, "What can I get for a couple of ribs?"



Jaan

[Mayavi Morpheus]

What did he get

[lonewolf]

What did he get

a female ape....

[malakpetmasala]

The Quran was NOT written by God or Muhammad (swt)
The exact words of God were memorized by the Prophet and written by scholars.[/b]

i always knew something was worng with it.

anyway, whats the thing with god challenging anybody to come up with something even close to what is written in the koran.



and how is it, just a co incidence or an accident that all the books talk of the same thing?

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what does the Old Testament, koran etc say abt the original question i i ad asked. this was always in my mind for long and didnt know whom to ask:

God made only Adam and Eve. they had children. how did these children of Adam have more children and spread the human race? there were no other humans for them to "multiply"....??????

this also applies to Noah's children and Abraham's too....

[malakpetmasala]

what does the Old Testament, koran etc say abt the original question i i ad asked. this was always in my mind for long and didnt know whom to ask:

God made only Adam and Eve. they had children. how did these children of Adam have more children and spread the human race? there were no other humans for them to "multiply"....??????

this also applies to Noah's children and Abraham's too....

thankfully, i am not one of the childern.

[Aquarian81]

what does the Old Testament, koran etc say abt the original question i i ad asked. this was always in my mind for long and didnt know whom to ask:

God made only Adam and Eve. they had children. how did these children of Adam have more children and spread the human race? there were no other humans for them to "multiply"....??????

this also applies to Noah's children and Abraham's too....

thankfully, i am not one of the childern.

MM, if your not one of kids then hopefully your not one of the animals from Noahs Arc!

[malakpetmasala]

what does the Old Testament, koran etc say abt the original question i i ad asked. this was always in my mind for long and didnt know whom to ask:

God made only Adam and Eve. they had children. how did these children of Adam have more children and spread the human race? there were no other humans for them to "multiply"....??????

this also applies to Noah's children and Abraham's too....

thankfully, i am not one of the childern.

MM, if your not one of kids then hopefully your not one of the animals from Noahs Arc!

Yeah.... i dont think Noah came to India to rescue the animals then.

[Aquarian81]

what does the Old Testament, koran etc say abt the original question i i ad asked. this was always in my mind for long and didnt know whom to ask:

God made only Adam and Eve. they had children. how did these children of Adam have more children and spread the human race? there were no other humans for them to "multiply"....??????

this also applies to Noah's children and Abraham's too....

thankfully, i am not one of the childern.

MM, if your not one of kids then hopefully your not one of the animals from Noahs Arc!

Yeah.... i dont think Noah came to India to rescue the animals then.

Dont forget to pay attention in geography class, the continents were all together at the time, they didnt yet seperate. So technically, Noah was in no specific 'country' at the time.

[malakpetmasala]

what does the Old Testament, koran etc say abt the original question i i ad asked. this was always in my mind for long and didnt know whom to ask:

God made only Adam and Eve. they had children. how did these children of Adam have more children and spread the human race? there were no other humans for them to "multiply"....??????

this also applies to Noah's children and Abraham's too....

thankfully, i am not one of the childern.

MM, if your not one of kids then hopefully your not one of the animals from Noahs Arc!

Yeah.... i dont think Noah came to India to rescue the animals then.

Dont forget to pay attention in geography class, the continents were all together at the time, they didnt yet seperate. So technically, Noah was in no specific 'country' at the time.

if my geochronological facts are right, i dont think humans have evolved by the time the continents have separated.

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[quote="Aquarian81Dont forget to pay attention in geography class, the continents were all together at the time, they didnt yet seperate. So technically, Noah was in no specific 'country' at the time.

if my geochronological facts are right, i dont think humans have evolved by the time the continents have separated.[/quote]i think Malakie is right aqua...the modern humans had not yet evolved when the continents seperated millenia ago....or unless Noah was a sea creature...

[Aquarian81]

[quote="Aquarian81Dont forget to pay attention in geography class, the continents were all together at the time, they didnt yet seperate. So technically, Noah was in no specific 'country' at the time.

if my geochronological facts are right, i dont think humans have evolved by the time the continents have separated.

i think Malakie is right aqua...the modern humans had not yet evolved when the continents seperated millenia ago....or unless Noah was a sea creature...[/quote]





The continents were slowly drifting away, even in Noah's time. I will suggest the name of 2 books I bought at Barnes&Noble, that will give you precise info on when and how the seperations of continents occured. And mind you, they were both written by experts in that field.

[Aquarian81]

[quote="Aquarian81Dont forget to pay attention in geography class, the continents were all together at the time, they didnt yet seperate. So technically, Noah was in no specific 'country' at the time.

if my geochronological facts are right, i dont think humans have evolved by the time the continents have separated.

i think Malakie is right aqua...the modern humans had not yet evolved when the continents seperated millenia ago....or unless Noah was a sea creature...[/quote]





The continents were slowly drifting away, even in Noah's time. I will suggest the name of 2 books I bought at Barnes&Noble, that will give you precise info on when and how the seperations of continents occured. And mind you, they were both written by experts in that field.

[lonewolf]

The continents were slowly drifting away, even in Noah's time. I will suggest the name of 2 books I bought at Barnes&Noble, that will give you precise info on when and how the seperations of continents occured. And mind you, they were both written by experts in that field.

Aquarian, do you selectively decide when to refer the science books sold at Barnes and Nobles and when to quote from the Quran when you explain the logic behind something?



BTW I am a Christian and a firm believer in the Bible. The reason I believe in the creation of Adam and Eve, and not evolution, is that there are some things that cannot be explained or understood by man's level of understanding or logic. That is what I believe. Even if I provide scientific proof to substantiate what I believe, those that don't believe it will never believe it. And, no amount of explaining Darwin's theory will convince me that my ancestors were monkeys. There is a limit to science. There are thousands of unexplained theories, and I as a Christian believe in what the Bible says. You are free to believe what you want, guys



* listening to I'm a believer.

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BTW I am a Christian and a firm believer in the Bible. The reason I believe in the creation of Adam and Eve, and not evolution, is that there are some things that cannot be explained or understood by man's level of understanding or logic. That is what I believe. Even if I provide scientific proof to substantiate what I believe, those that don't believe it will never believe it. And, no amount of explaining Darwin's theory will convince me that my ancestors were monkeys. There is a limit to science. There are thousands of unexplained theories, and I as a Christian believe in what the Bible says. You are free to believe what you want, guys

then answer the question i asked in this thread a page or two back.



how did mankind evolve from just those two mythical humans? did their chldren mate with Eve herself....or any daughters she might have had. as malakie said i rather believe i came from apes rather than from an inbred incestious relationships...

[lonewolf]

how did mankind evolve from just those two mythical humans? did their chldren mate with Eve herself....or any daughters she might have had. as malakie said i rather believe i came from apes rather than from an inbred incestious relationships...

Its not definite either, and the Bible doesn't mention anything except that all were descended from Adam and Eve.



God set rules against incest later on, several generations down the line. And it was common for relatives to marry within the community. Nowadays you don't find Christians marrying their blood relatives (except in places like India).



By the way, I was disgusted too. But rules were different then. I have always considered marriage between first cousins, and uncle-neice as incest. For a long time, I didn't know that Indians still follow that practice. Today, I see that many of my classmates and neighbours have married their neices/uncles or blood cousins. Marrying within the extended family was allowed in medieval England, but its very rare now. It still goes on in India and is commonplace.



Some practices change with time, and are culturally dependent. Abraham married Sarah, and in our present times, she would be considered his sister. I believe in the Bible and yes if there is no explanation to how the line continued after Adam and Eve, I'd take it that we are descended from people who committed incest (before incest was laid down as a sin).



If you were descended from monkeys, what is the guarantee that you're not a product of incest? In many zoos (including our Nehru zoological park) they keep one male and several females, and the male does all the dirty work without differentiating between his mother, sister, daughter and grand-daughter. The law does not apply to them

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If you were descended from monkeys, what is the guarantee that you're not a product of incest? In many zoos (including our Nehru zoological park) they keep one male and several females, and the male does all the dirty work without differentiating between his mother, sister, daughter and grand-daughter. The law does not apply to them

animals dont evolve in zoos. in the wild, the male of almost all species always moves far away from the pack and forms its own family. if this doesnt happen the gene pool wud be highly contaminated and species wud be wiped out by diseases. zoos are unnatural environments.

[CtrlAltDel]

...and thats another arguement against the A and E theory: if so much inbreeding went on for centuries, humans wud have ceased to exist millenia ago or if some did survive, the end result wud be a very weak and genetically feeble human race. this is obviously not true.

[solosynergy]

how did mankind evolve from just those two mythical humans? did their chldren mate with Eve herself....or any daughters she might have had. as malakie said i rather believe i came from apes rather than from an inbred incestious relationships...

Its not definite either, and the Bible doesn't mention anything except that all were descended from Adam and Eve.

God set rules against incest later on, several generations down the line. And it was common for relatives to marry within the community. Nowadays you don't find Christians marrying their blood relatives (except in places like India).

By the way, I was disgusted too. But rules were different then. I have always considered marriage between first cousins, and uncle-neice as incest. For a long time, I didn't know that Indians still follow that practice. Today, I see that many of my classmates and neighbours have married their neices/uncles or blood cousins. Marrying within the extended family was allowed in medieval England, but its very rare now. It still goes on in India and is commonplace.

Some practices change with time, and are culturally dependent. Abraham married Sarah, and in our present times, she would be considered his sister. I believe in the Bible and yes if there is no explanation to how the line continued after Adam and Eve, I'd take it that we are descended from people who committed incest (before incest was laid down as a sin).

If you were descended from monkeys, what is the guarantee that you're not a product of incest? In many zoos (including our Nehru zoological park) they keep one male and several females, and the male does all the dirty work without differentiating between his mother, sister, daughter and grand-daughter. The law does not apply to them

well u just cant have rules changing as and when u please.ultimately it is us who decide as humans what is incest and what is not.for instance some things are considered good in some places and the same thing in another place bad.for instance dating in india isnt something that parents would want their children to be into.i beleive that everything in this world is manmade including the holy scriptures of all releigions. yes there are a lotta things that are unexplainable and that maybe because the knowledge of sicence that we have is very limited. and i personally would not want to have a word where no god existed. i would like to refer to god as the environment that we live in and yes science too.

[lonewolf]

[quote="CtrlAltDel]animals dont evolve in zoos. in the wild, the male of almost all species always moves far away from the pack and forms its own family. if this doesnt happen the gene pool wud be highly contaminated and species wud be wiped out by diseases. zoos are unnatural environments.[/quote]



Most animals wouldn't hesitate to do incest simply because it is not in their list of rules.

[solosynergy]

[quote="CtrlAltDel]animals dont evolve in zoos. in the wild, the male of almost all species always moves far away from the pack and forms its own family. if this doesnt happen the gene pool wud be highly contaminated and species wud be wiped out by diseases. zoos are unnatural environments.

Most animals wouldn't hesitate to do incest simply because it is not in their list of rules.[/quote]

[lonewolf]

i personally would not want to have a word where no god existed. i would like to refer to god as the environment that we live in and yes science too.

Well, that what I said.. I'll believe in what I believe and you believe in what you believe Nobody imposes on each other.

[CtrlAltDel]

animals dont evolve in zoos. in the wild, the male of almost all species always moves far away from the pack and forms its own family. if this doesnt happen the gene pool wud be highly contaminated and species wud be wiped out by diseases. zoos are unnatural environments.

Most animals wouldn't hesitate to do incest simply because it is not in their list of rules.

yes...that happens too...and if it continues for a few generations, the species wud be beset with genetic defects and die out slowly. thats biology.

[solosynergy]

i personally would not want to have a word where no god existed. i would like to refer to god as the environment that we live in and yes science too.

Well, that what I said.. I'll believe in what I believe and you believe in what you believe Nobody imposes on each other.

that is what we beleive in as individuals and we respect each others opinions in a harmonious way. and harmony is what makes us progress forward. and thats what gods message and science is all about.

[lonewolf]

...and thats another arguement against the A and E theory: if so much inbreeding went on for centuries, humans wud have ceased to exist millenia ago or if some did survive, the end result wud be a very weak and genetically feeble human race. this is obviously not true.

People were stronger and healthier then. Its said that they lived for an average of more than a hundred years each. Many of the earliest ancestors lived for 300 and odd years (I forgot the exact ages).



Most of the people in AP and TN are also products of marriage between blood relatives over the centuries. Yeah, they are weak