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by Sujatha the lovely » Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:26 am

Thank god ,

No Leukemia,

But only Virus, Hope not a deadly one.

Sri Yasser Arafat is recovering at France.

My deep worry is that he has not still achieved his goal

free palestine state.

Americam _ are the main blockade for free Palestine state.

Note below India is diplomatically friend of Palestine.
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by Alexis » Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:28 am

*sigh* I hope hes up on his feet again soon.
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Re: Old man is suffering but not dying

by The Jackal » Tue Nov 02, 2004 4:00 am

Sujatha the lovely wrote:Thank god ,
No Leukemia,
But only Virus, Hope not a deadly one.
Sri Yasser Arafat is recovering at France.
My deep worry is that he has not still achieved his goal
free palestine state.
Americam _ are the main blockade for free Palestine state.
Note below India is diplomatically friend of Palestine.
Was that a typo and did you mean sir. :? And yeah its kinda sad he didnt achieve his goal but hes not dead yet..... :D
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Re: Old man is suffering but not dying

by dethslut » Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:00 am

Sujatha the lovely wrote:Thank god ,
No Leukemia,
But only Virus, Hope not a deadly one.
Sri Yasser Arafat is recovering at France.
My deep worry is that he has not still achieved his goal
free palestine state.
Americam _ are the main blockade for free Palestine state.
Note below India is diplomatically friend of Palestine.




but india does not recognise the sovereignty of palestine which is a shame.
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:13 am

yeah, and they support pakistan on kasmir in OIC! :roll:
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by dethslut » Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:39 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:yeah, and they support pakistan on kasmir in OIC! :roll:




i am not sure about that but Arafat had better ties with the previous Indian governments than the pakastani counterparts.



well... definitely, i would nt support Israeli occupation
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:46 am

Ofcourse India doesnt support Israels occupation of palestine, no one supports it, not the Americans, not europe not the Arabs. But no one wants to end it :P Yep, not even the arabs want a free palestine.
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by dethslut » Tue Nov 02, 2004 5:55 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:Ofcourse India doesnt support Israels occupation of palestine, no one supports it, not the Americans, not europe not the Arabs. But no one wants to end it :P Yep, not even the arabs want a free palestine.




na, the Arab confedration is totally against the occupation. Its not like i am anti Jew or anything, but i just comprehend with the whole idea of a promised land. Well... who promised it to them? the Americans surely do support the occupation, otherwise why do u think they sign all these deals against occupation and still stay quiet when the pacts are broken? well, Israel is a strong ally of the americans in the middle east and if they lose it, its really hard for them to get anywhere else safe in the middle east in the given scenario with the anti america sentiment among the arabs.



and coming to europe, it was there where the the whole lobbying thing started after the World War for a separate state for the jews, resulting in the jewish occupation of what was then palestine.
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:13 am

WEll for starters, Arabs have no sympathy for palestines. When I say arabs, its not the aam osama bin laden on road but the prince bandar in palace who is ruling the state. As a rule of thumb, Arabs are against a Jewish state in Middle east. So the problem here for arabs is not that of Israel occupying palestine, but Israel itself. If the Arabs really want to, they can easily solve the whole Israel-palestine issue.



US: They are the self proclaimed world police. US needs Israel for several reasons. Its in US interest for the conflict to continue. As long as powerful jewish Israel exists in the middle east, Arabs cannot sleep peace fully. Isreal is militarily so powerfull that it can go to war on all arab states at the same time and kick their individual asses. Arabs too have mighty militaries, but in US control and the less we talk about Arab infantry the better. Without US, Israel can invade, nuke Arabs out of existence. Given this, Arab states like KSA want US to have its military on its land (the whole OBL terrorrism is about expulsion of troops from holy land) in return for long term oil contracts.



Rest of world: We condemn Israels actions. We sympathise with Palestine. But we have trade with Israel and buy weapons from Israel. Thank you.
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by dethslut » Tue Nov 02, 2004 6:46 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:WEll for starters, Arabs have no sympathy for palestines. When I say arabs, its not the aam osama bin laden on road but the prince bandar in palace who is ruling the state. As a rule of thumb, Arabs are against a Jewish state in Middle east. So the problem here for arabs is not that of Israel occupying palestine, but Israel itself. If the Arabs really want to, they can easily solve the whole Israel-palestine issue.

US: They are the self proclaimed world police. US needs Israel for several reasons. Its in US interest for the conflict to continue. As long as powerful jewish Israel exists in the middle east, Arabs cannot sleep peace fully. Isreal is militarily so powerfull that it can go to war on all arab states at the same time and kick their individual asses. Arabs too have mighty militaries, but in US control and the less we talk about Arab infantry the better. Without US, Israel can invade, nuke Arabs out of existence. Given this, Arab states like KSA want US to have its military on its land (the whole OBL terrorrism is about expulsion of troops from holy land) in return for long term oil contracts.

Rest of world: We condemn Israels actions. We sympathise with Palestine. But we have trade with Israel and buy weapons from Israel. Thank you.




its true that arabs dont have any sympathy for the palestines, who themselves are arabs, this is in general the mentality of the arabs. they did nt even sympathise the kuwaitis when saddam attacked them ages ago. but in the end the whole ideology ends where religion comes into effect, to this matter most of the individual arab states have been in war with Israel at one time or the other due to the various occupations of the Israelis and there is no one state in the middle east which does nt have a tough time with the Israeli presence. But in the end it all comes to the American stand on the region. They do not want to mess with the big boy, for they fear the big boy will come and liberate them as well. From my point of view, the only reason for them to spend billions to have an army and arsenal at the disposal is due to the Jewish presence in the Middle East, which is totally supported/sponsored by the west. And this in turn upsets the general public in their daily life which is ruled by religion and all their helplessness is routed into militant service in the name of intifada, just cos the governments cannot do much about it publicly. And this intifada at a larger scale is the global Islamic terrorism which we see today.
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Tue Nov 02, 2004 7:04 am

the only reason for them to spend billions to have an army and arsenal at the disposal is due to the Jewish presence in the Middle East, which is totally supported/sponsored by the west. And this in turn upsets the general public in their daily life which is ruled by religion and all their helplessness is routed into militant service in the name of intifada, just cos the governments cannot do much about it publicly. And this intifada at a larger scale is the global Islamic terrorism which we see today.,




Jews hate muslims and muslims hate jews equally. I thinks its fair.
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by CtrlAltDel » Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:56 am

...and to think the Judaisma nd Islam have the same origin and mythology....:?
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by Alexis » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:05 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
the only reason for them to spend billions to have an army and arsenal at the disposal is due to the Jewish presence in the Middle East, which is totally supported/sponsored by the west. And this in turn upsets the general public in their daily life which is ruled by religion and all their helplessness is routed into militant service in the name of intifada, just cos the governments cannot do much about it publicly. And this intifada at a larger scale is the global Islamic terrorism which we see today.,


Jews hate muslims and muslims hate jews equally. I thinks its fair.


Muslims, Jews, and Christians are considered "People of The Book".



You say its fair because both groups hate each other equally. But since when did two wrongs make a right?
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:17 am

I didnt say its right, I said its fair fight which was not enforced by a third party. The hate is mutual and none can help it. Let them build arsenals, might is right!
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by CtrlAltDel » Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:06 pm

the israelis are basing their claim on some obscure mythology. its not fair to the local palestinians that their interest has to be satisfied so that Jews migth live as written in their holy books.

israel has as much right to exist as palestine. hopefully this problem shud be solved soon.



abt india's involvment, we shud not sacrifice our ties with Israel for the palestinian cause. this is a mutually beneficial relationship.



regarding arab support for kashmir, the only arab leader to consistantly support india was saddam hussain. the rest used to support pakis in every OIC meet. but we shudn't read much into this.



most of the arab states have cordial relations with india and wudn't dare rock the boat when it really matters for pakistan (say, in a conflict).



the only arab country we shud be wary of is Saudi Arabia. the bastards cannot be trusted. they are the money bags behind most of the Islamic Terrorism in the world.
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by dethslut » Tue Nov 02, 2004 1:18 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:...and to think the Judaisma nd Islam have the same origin and mythology....:?




was watching new episodes of Southpark last night. there was this one where cartman goes to the paralympics posing as a retard. Kyle comes along and tries to drag him into guilty conscious saying that he would go to hell if he cheated and won the paralympics and the 1000 bucks as the prize. that Cartman says next made me laugh so much... he asks if kyle has seen the passion of christ and according to the movie, hell is reserved only for the jews and no one else, so independent of whatever kyle does, will have to end up in hell.
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by Sujatha » Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:48 pm

Sorry, as per latest news he is already comatosed.
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by The Jackal » Thu Nov 11, 2004 2:20 pm

Well i guess the old man suffered enough.RIP. :(
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by The Jackal » Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:24 pm

I guess no one cares for arafat.... :twisted: :twisted:
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by ycr007 » Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:39 pm

Mohammed Yasser Abdul-Ra'ouf Qudwa Al-Husseini, a.k.a,Yasser Arafat

b.August 24, 1929. d.November 11,2004

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by lonewolf » Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:07 pm

The Jackal wrote:I guess no one cares for arafat.... :twisted: :twisted:




He's gone now!
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by Sujatha » Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:48 pm

Even the whole world is paying tributes to the legend Mr Arafat, the Israeli Prime Minister Sharon has given this poison.

He (Mr Yasar Arafat) is a conniving terrorist and obstructionist. His death can serve as a historic turning point in the Middle East, reviving the hope that the Palestinians would now stop terrorism.

Sharon has refused to mention Arafat by name.

In Final days, Mr Arafat said he wished to be buried in East Jerusalem.



But Israeli leaders refused, and allotted a site next to a fish market in Gaza.



That site was changed finally.



Even in uncivilised societies, there is no practice of abusing the dead man.



See the level of Racism. My god.
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by ycr007 » Fri Nov 12, 2004 4:34 pm

I doubt Mr.Sharon would have said the same if Mr.Arafat was alive & well :!: :mrgreen:
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by Alexis » Fri Nov 12, 2004 7:31 pm

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Kargil war

by lonewolf » Sat Nov 13, 2004 1:10 am

Sujatha wrote:Even in uncivilised societies, there is no practice of abusing the dead man.




There are a few uncivilised societies that abuse dead men.



During the Kargil war, many pakistani soldiers were killed on Indian soil (naturally, because they are always the ones to infiltrate) and their colleagues refused to accept the corpses. So the dead paki soldiers were buried in India, with the traditional Muslim customs, by the Indian soldiers. Talk of abusing a dead man, we have our neighbours to look at. 8)
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