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by Rabab » Wed Nov 10, 2004 9:35 am

Abad: Sayeedabad , Khairtabad, Saifabad


Shamshabad,
Aliyabad



Puras:

Yakutpura
Barkatpura
Moghalpura
Bahadurpura


Dapeerpura


Nager:

Asifnager
Himayatnager
Hayatnager




Amaan Nager A and B





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Yakutpura Darwaza

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Magar Ki Bowli

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by DQ » Thu Nov 11, 2004 7:02 am

Rabab wrote:
Abad: Sayeedabad , Khairtabad, Saifabad


Shamshabad,
Aliyabad



Puras:

Yakutpura
Barkatpura
Moghalpura
Bahadurpura


Dapeerpura


Nager:

Asifnager
Himayatnager
Hayatnager


Amaan Nager A and B


GachiChabutra
Yakutpura Darwaza
Chaduo ki Masjid
Dair-e-Mir Momeen
Mandi Mir Alam
Magar Ki Bowli
Darushafa
Darab jung ki gali
Chirag Ali Lane




Looks like you are related to darushifa. You know the typical shia mohalla naam :-P
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by Rabab » Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:08 am

Looks like you are related to darushifa. You know the typical shia mohalla naam


My Sasural is in Komatwadi...and my Maaika is in Yakutpura :p

U Know darushifa is right behind komatwadi...aur you can say..komatwadi is right behind darushifa :roll:
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by helper » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:14 pm

actually noor khan bazaar, darushifa and dewan dewdhi areas are populated/dominated by shias. my best freind lutfi is from noor khan bazaar.



we are better familiar with asif nagar, murad nagar, syed ali guda, malkapur and mehdi patnam, mallepalli and so on.
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by CtrlAltDel » Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:14 pm

a query: what proportions of hydbadi (and indian) muslims are shia n sunni? who is in a majority here?
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by lizard king » Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:56 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:a query: what proportions of hydbadi (and indian) muslims are shia n sunni? who is in a majority here?


sunni is the majority, shia is a small minority in india, dont know the proportion though.

well, i guess sherry, DQ or one of the girls give u a better answer
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:54 am

mmmm... I was under the impression that India has a Shiite majority muslim population. I may be wrong though.
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by helper » Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:10 am

Hi control, always enjoy your posts.



you know there may not be any genuine survey on this issue, since there was no need ever. but it could be that they are much less than 1%.
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by CtrlAltDel » Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:19 am

helper wrote:but it could be that they are much less than 1%.
considering the fact that muharram is a holiday in most places and its a shia festival, i think shias are quite a large number...definitely more than 1%
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by Hyd_khatta » Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:34 am

For DQ - Ctrl+Alt+Del & Rock, Just a correction - I think for AC Guard the real name is Arabian Countries Guard where the security persons from arabian countries like saudi, dubai and kuwait & others use to work for nizam during that time.
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by CtrlAltDel » Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:55 pm

Hyd_khatta wrote:For DQ - Ctrl+Alt+Del & Rock, Just a correction - I think for AC Guard the real name is Arabian Countries Guard where the security persons from arabian countries like saudi, dubai and kuwait & others use to work for nizam during that time.
no, its "Abyssinian Cavalry Guards" where Nizam's soldiers frm Abyssina (Ethiopia) stayed. they were black africans and their descendents are still found in that place.
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by 3 T'z » Sun Feb 06, 2005 6:33 pm

lizard king wrote:
CtrlAltDel wrote:a query: what proportions of hydbadi (and indian) muslims are shia n sunni? who is in a majority here?

sunni is the majority, shia is a small minority in india, dont know the proportion though.
well, i guess sherry, DQ or one of the girls give u a better answer




He's rite sunni is da majority in ind. n hyd..as well but there r a good no of shia's as well..
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by ~akidna~ » Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:07 am

Islam is India's largest minority religion, with Muslims officially comprising 12.1 percent of the country's population.I am not real sure of the percentage difference between sunnis and shias(but ill try to find out)but afaik sunnis are in majority.
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by ~akidna~ » Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:08 am

this is what i found





group country no. of adherents year



sunni india 79,000,000 1996



shias india 26,000,000 1996






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by DQ » Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:35 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:a query: what proportions of hydbadi (and indian) muslims are shia n sunni? who is in a majority here?




The majority across the globe is Sunni.



Even in India and HYD, the ratio is between 70-20 to 90-10



Hyd has a sizeable majority though Accounting for upto 2 million shias.



The fact that Shias a few in number id due to the following reasons.



- Over history they have been systematically eliminated.



In India Aurangzeb ordered the mass killings of Shias.

Even in the Nizam period, if Shias were found they were locked up or killed. This continued upto the sixth or 7th Nizam who converted to Shiism.



Hyd itself was created by a Shia dynasty (Quli Qutub Shahs). Hence has a lot of historical artifacts and remains historically important to Shias world over.



- Recent history shows

The Taliban massacared over a million Shias in Afghanistan.

Saddam Hussein is guilty of massacaring another million as well as forcing them towards the borders during his infamous wars of Iran and Gulf.

Most of the Arab states, the stringest being the Saudi kingdom, who have eliminated most of the Shias.

The surviving tribes have been denied the most basic eminities. The oil rich nations poorest of the poor are Shias.



About Muharram being a public holiday. The significance of Muharram has been observed by Muslims (Shias and Sunnis) and Hindus, Sikhs alike for 800 yrs atleast in recorded history. Hence was a major occasion and continues to be of national significance and hence a Public Holiday.
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by lizard king » Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:45 am

DQ wrote:Hyd has a sizeable majority though Accounting for upto 2 million shias.



Really? man, the population of he city is around 5-6 million and lets say here is a 60-40 divide between the muslims and the hindus, then, roughly the muslim population would be about 3 to 3.5 million and of that 20 or even 25%, which lets say is shia, would nt make up 2 million man.
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by DQ » Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:49 am

lizard king wrote:
DQ wrote:Hyd has a sizeable majority though Accounting for upto 2 million shias.


Really? man, the population of he city is around 5-6 million and lets say here is a 60-40 divide between the muslims and the hindus, then, roughly the muslim population would be about 3 to 3.5 million and of that 20 or even 25%, which lets say is shia, would nt make up 2 million man.




Are there only 6 million peoplein HYD. Anyway Pretty sure about the 2 million odd for HYD.
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by lizard king » Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:51 am

DQ wrote:
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DQ wrote:Hyd has a sizeable majority though Accounting for upto 2 million shias.


Really? man, the population of he city is around 5-6 million and lets say here is a 60-40 divide between the muslims and the hindus, then, roughly the muslim population would be about 3 to 3.5 million and of that 20 or even 25%, which lets say is shia, would nt make up 2 million man.


Are there only 6 million peoplein HYD. Anyway Pretty sure about the 2 million odd for HYD.


Yeah DQ, the population is not more than 6 million, they reached the 5 million mark a few years ago.
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by DQ » Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:56 am

Oh ok, Maybe I am talking about the Internal Shai Stats.



The Muharram prepration that take place in the old city, the recent figures were fro two million people converging maybe it also includes those from places like, Bhongir, Ibrahimpatnam, Machlipatnam and other parts of the country as well.



During the first 10 days of Muharram there are around 2 million people in Hyd alone.

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by CtrlAltDel » Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:56 am

DQ wrote:...sixth or 7th Nizam who converted to Shiism.
Hyd itself was created by a Shia dynasty (Quli Qutub Shahs). Hence has a lot of historical artifacts and remains historically important to Shias world over.
wow! didnt know all that! maybe that also explains the affinity of iranians towards hydbad!
DQ wrote:- The Taliban massacared over a million Shias in Afghanistan.
Saddam Hussein is guilty of massacaring another million as well as forcing them towards the borders during his infamous wars of Iran and Gulf.
Most of the Arab states, the stringest being the Saudi kingdom, who have eliminated most of the Shias.
at least in india they live peacefully now, unlike the arab states!
DQ wrote:The significance of Muharram has been observed by Muslims (Shias and Sunnis)
ok...! didnt know sunnis also observed it. do they perform the self-flaggelation too?
DQ wrote:and Hindus, Sikhs alike for 800 yrs atleast in recorded history.
yes, i have seen that in the old city and a few towns in AP and north karnataka (erstwhile nizam's territories)...i had attributed it to nizam's reign!
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by lizard king » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:01 pm

And one more fact is that, the majority of muslim community if rural telangana is shia, i dont know why this is so. i was guessing if it was cos of the hatered towards them in eh sunni dominated era's.

man.. we are so lucky, not to be like pakistan or any other islamic country when it comes to sunni-shia clashes.
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by CtrlAltDel » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:41 pm

lizard king wrote:we are so lucky, not to be like pakistan or any other islamic country when it comes to sunni-shia clashes.
the problem seems to be only from pakistan westwards....from india eastwards - malaysia, indonesia etc there's no apparent friction
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by lizard king » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:47 pm

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lizard king wrote:we are so lucky, not to be like pakistan or any other islamic country when it comes to sunni-shia clashes.
the problem seems to be only from pakistan westwards....from india eastwards - malaysia, indonesia etc there's no apparent friction


there is hardly any shia population eastwards from india... i guess. u dont really hear about the shia mosques anywhere there.
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by CtrlAltDel » Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:59 pm

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lizard king wrote:we are so lucky, not to be like pakistan or any other islamic country when it comes to sunni-shia clashes.
the problem seems to be only from pakistan westwards....from india eastwards - malaysia, indonesia etc there's no apparent friction
there is hardly any shia population eastwards from india... i guess. u dont really hear about the shia mosques anywhere there.
i think there is...remember i told u abt my sunni hydbadi friend who was depressed after attending id prayers in a shia mosque by mistake in sydney....? he said it was a malaysian or indonesian shia mosque
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by lizard king » Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:01 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:
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lizard king wrote:we are so lucky, not to be like pakistan or any other islamic country when it comes to sunni-shia clashes.
the problem seems to be only from pakistan westwards....from india eastwards - malaysia, indonesia etc there's no apparent friction
there is hardly any shia population eastwards from india... i guess. u dont really hear about the shia mosques anywhere there.
i think there is...remember i told u abt my sunni hydbadi friend who was depressed after attending id prayers in a shia mosque by mistake in sydney....? he said it was a malaysian or indonesian shia mosque


Na, could have been the turkish/kurdish mosque. but i am not very sure if there is a considerable majority. well, i am not very sure with the facts.
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