Gay pride in France

[Alexis]

On the news yesterday I saw that France is starting a new channel for homosexuals, called PINKtv.

Its a complete entertainment channel with gay-sitcoms, gay-porn, music, and news.



I would think America would have started a channel like this first, now it wont be too long before there is a channel like that here too.

[salamehyderabad]

I wish a hitler be in this era to beat the crap......



the Eldorado Night club (A famed destination in Berlin for lesbians, homosexual men) was one of the first queer establishments closed by the Nazis when Hitler came to power.









I dont wear a watch cuz it keeps reminding am late...bew

[marko]

I wish a hitler be in this era to beat the crap......

well, ya know what Gandhi said, you should be the change you wish to see in the world, or something along those lines. gud luck, let us know how it works out

[salamehyderabad]

first to say aint an admirer of gandhi ...... sorry me cannot take the initiative ...... ny how advicement aint costin u a penny....and this issue is in news a lot these days and the gay couples are movin to courts for justice.... did yaal hear bout an indian lesbian couple in CA which moved to court.....

[azazel]

er.. so?

[Alexis]

Well, its said that Hitler had a gay lover. Hitler was married, but was also bisexual.....supposedly.

[salamehyderabad]

den y wud he ever order the closure of the club

[marko]

den y wud he ever order the closure of the club

cos he was batshit crazy.

[Habitual Perfectionist]

den y wud he ever order the closure of the club

cos he was batshit crazy.

[Sharjeel]

All this Homo business is just pure BS. I have had long arguments with others and have not been convinced. They say that sometimes Homosexuality is due to some genetic problem, but this explanation is just an excuse used by people to justify their inability to control themselves.

[CtrlAltDel]

let gays do watever they want... why shud we get worked up abt it as long as they dont make a pass at us?

[CtrlAltDel]

All this Homo business is just pure BS. I have had long arguments with others and have not been convinced. They say that sometimes Homosexuality is due to some genetic problem, but this explanation is just an excuse used by people to justify their inability to control themselves.

only reason why most ppl hate gays is coz some Religions says its wrong...there is no scientific or rational explanation for this hatred.



being gay is as natural as being straight and this is difficult for most ppl to accept.

[azazel]

being gay is as natural as being straight and this is difficult for most ppl to accept.

call me a fanatic or homophobe or whatever, i dun think so. if it were intended so, why would we have 2 sexes?

[Alexis]

being gay is as natural as being straight and this is difficult for most ppl to accept.

call me a fanatic or homophobe or whatever, i dun think so. if it were intended so, why would we have 2 sexes?

I agree with Az here. Personally, I dont think homosexuality is 'natural'. The homos go on and on about how they were "born that way", but I think its just an extention of their experimentation with the same sex. They really liked it, so they stuck with it. Some go both ways too, best of the both worlds



This is what I believe, just putting my 2 cents in. Dont mean to start a war of words with members here who believe in and condone homosexuality.

[CtrlAltDel]

natural homosexuality exists in animals too. here's a couple of links i am posting again to prove my point:



http://www.rnw.nl/lifestyle/html/gayanimals000808.html



http://www.libchrist.com/other/homosexual/sheepandanimals.html



more are available if u care to google for it...



this proves that its possible to be born a gay. of corz...ppl become gay for environment reasons too (same sex hostels, prisons etc) and where there is less chance of meeting the opposite sex...but there is nothing to fear or desist in gays...

[Sharjeel]

being gay is as natural as being straight and this is difficult for most ppl to accept.

call me a fanatic or homophobe or whatever, i dun think so. if it were intended so, why would we have 2 sexes?

Yes, It IS something to get irritated at. Why should I not get worked up about it? And it is not only because of my religion. Being ga is not natural. I have heard that there maybe a genetic disorder behind it.



IMO it is more due to frustrated and insane people who cannot find any vent to their often sadistic overtures, much like drug addicts.

[CtrlAltDel]

being gay is as natural as being straight and this is difficult for most ppl to accept.

call me a fanatic or homophobe or whatever, i dun think so. if it were intended so, why would we have 2 sexes?

Yes, It IS something to get irritated at. Why should I not get worked up about it? And it is not only because of my religion. Being ga is not natural. I have heard that there maybe a genetic disorder behind it.

IMO it is more due to frustrated and insane people who cannot find any vent to their often sadistic overtures, much like drug addicts.

then how do u explain gay animals...?

for religious ppl all i can say is that if God created straight ppl, He also created Gays...

[marko]

Why should I not get worked up about it?

cos it's none of your business. regardless what you think of gays (and you're entitled to your opinion of course), they're there, they've been there for thousands of years, and what they choose to do in their bedroom is none of your concern.



1 in 10 people in any given population is gay (apparently), meaning 5000 visitors to this board live alternate lifestyles, you may have up to 100 million gay people in India. And for the most part they're invisible. they are you and me. the gays we see are just the flamboyant pink tip of the iceberg (and we only see that because society is relatively tolerant at the moment). what they do in the bedroom shouldn't define them, what they do in life should define them.



Besides, these gay men and women are helping to keep down overpopulation. thats 100 million people in India who would be reproducing if they were straight.

[Sharjeel]

How do I explain Gay animals I cannot because their brains are not as developed as humans, and so everything they do may or may not be logic. Here is some reading material on what CAD is speaking of, just for everybodys info:

Although no definite research has been done on the subject, homosexuality has been observed, in both zoos and in the wild, among many species including dolphins, gorillas, orang-utans, chimpanzees and elephants. The reasons, Dr Frankenhuis says, are unclear but it often involves younger, immature animals.
"For example, young goats will jump on each other, mainly because the dominant adult male monopolises the females. So in one way or another they have to do something with their sexuality. But this is usually temporary, as soon as they become adults and manage to become the dominant male in the group, they will then mate with females exclusively."

Power
It may also, as in many of the primate species says Dr Frankenhuis, be simply part of their fight for a place in the hierarchy. "When you introduce a new animal, the others will jump on it just to show who's boss. Adapted from our programme, Dutch Horizons.
This is purely a power game. As soon as the hierarchy is established they will continue to be heterosexual."
But whatever the reasons, it seems, within the community, these animals are treated exactly as the same as others. "There is absolutely no rejection of homosexual companions like you often find with humans," explains Dr Frankenhuis. "For animals it's much easier, of course, they only have to listen to the bible of nature."



Should Homos be left alone? Well, to each his own. Nobody should have a problem with it; I could even befirend them, as long as they keep their desires/urges to themselves. But as to the questions of whether Homosexuality is acceptable or not, then the answer is no.



I wanted to post some snippets of the articles which denounce homosexuality both with respect to Science and Religion, but they would be too long. Here are the links instead:

Religion:

http://www.whyprophets.com/prophets/gay.htm



Science:

http://www.equip.org/free/DH055-1.htm



I will post more. Reading those articles has taken up too much time, and I gotta go!

[marko]

Should Homos be left alone? Well, to each his own. Nobody should have a problem with it.

Totally agree.

But as to the questions of whether Homosexuality is acceptable or not, then the answer is no.

acceptable to who? acceptable in what way? what do you actually mean by this?

[Scorpion's Sting]

Homos are homos. Everybody has their own opinion of everything, apparetnly even in the sex of their partner . Anyway, my point is "live & let live". If homos find that way of life acceptable then it is not for us to forbade them against it.

[Sharjeel]

Both of you are saying the same thing: Live and let live. I live by that funda too.



But AFAIK, I don't like homosexuality (dunno about others) one bit. Try to convince me that homoism is normal, or gay people are normal, and you will fail. I have enough ammunition in my arsenal against homosexuality and homos. But if someone is Homo, and happens to be my friend, or I find out after meeting him/her that s/he is a homo, it will not be a problem.

[Scorpion's Sting]

Try to convince me that homoism is normal, or gay people are normal, and you will fail.

*taking a leaf out of Einstien's book*



Whether or not you find homosexuality normal depends on your perception of normal.



You may think that homosexuality is not normal but a homo may view normal as being homo and may or may not find being straight as abnormal. It all boils down to your personal opinion of such things.

[The Jackal]

being gay is as natural as being straight and this is difficult for most ppl to accept.

call me a fanatic or homophobe or whatever, i dun think so. if it were intended so, why would we have 2 sexes?

You know what,first I used to beleive that there is nothing wrong in being gay,then my friend told exactly what you told,he also said that if it was intended to then why would god not allow them to have children?After he told this I didnt know what to support.

I have this gay friend.I always have supported gays but whenever I talk to this guy,I start hating them(FYI this guy talks about disgusting things ).



Bottom Line:I dont mind gays at all if they wont do anything to me or talk about it.

[Kenny]

Besides, these gay men and women are helping to keep down overpopulation. thats 100 million people in India who would be reproducing if they were straight.

good point.