Facts about our National anthem

[DQ]

Exactly Bas ??? ---- Bas itna hi for all the crap posted by you.



You respect the Gaddi, So ?



You respect the Anthem, then respect the Song.



Don't float a crazy argument that the Song is this and that. !!!



Please do not say its democracy and I have my rights. Rights are fine.



But some of your duties are Respect our national integrity



1. Flag

2. Anthem



Donno why POTA or something does not apply to such blasphemy,



these sick arguments have spoiled the fabric of India.



Suddenly one fine day someone comes up the Song in the Anthem is not good.

The colour in the flag is not good.



You know what (Again I hate to raise this controversial topics, but you force me to it).

The Babri Masjid issue was behind closed doors and would have been amicably resolved by the courts. If it had to come down it would have, if it had to stay it would.



Then suddenly to gain political points Yatras were held and passions where whipped and created a mess of an issue.



The flag and anthem too seem to be heading for a major show down. With the likes of your self promoting the theme.



STOP IT !! Stop the blasphemy

[Habitual Perfectionist]

Did your parents ever even think of naming you STUPID? You're nothing less than a 10kb brain attached to a 27GB mouth.



Kitni baar samjhaya that I do respect the poem because of the honour bestowed upon it. But I also feel that the poem is not worthy of the honour. IN NO _ WAY DOES THAT MEAN THAT I AM DISRESPECTING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM.



DOES THAT BLOW SOME SUNSHINE INTO YOUR @$$BRAIN?



I respect the Gaddi but not the occupant of the Gaddi. It was an ANALOGY (Do you understand what it means?) given to help you understand my point.



I will still say that it's a democracy and I have my rights. And rights are not just fine, they are constitutionally divine.



FYKI, POTA is being repealed.



These arguments have not spoiled the fabric of India, but they have strengthened the movement for the Right to Information.



I didn't say that the song is not good. I said that it's a translation of the british national anthem and thus, didn't really deserve to be where it is.



There was no reason at all to raise this CONTROVERSIAL topic here (I don't see anyone talking about it anywhere in the thread); but since you brought it out, let me address your concern.



The Babri Masjid issue was never behind closed doors. There was movement going on right since 1948 on this. IF you are talking about Advani's Yatra in 1990, you are way off the mark as this was a culmination of a chain of events....most notably, Rajiv Gandhi's mishandling of the Shah Bano case and the purportedly balancing act of opening the gates of the mosque to the common man. And if you say that the courts would have settled the issue amicably, you're again in the dark. Do you think an amicable solution to this is possible with organisations like the VHP and AIMPLB around?



Finally, a small piece of advice from Mark Twain.



It's better to be quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubts.

[rainmaker]

Kitni baar samjhaya that I do respect the poem because of the honour bestowed upon it. IN NO _ WAY DOES THAT MEAN THAT I AM DISRESPECTING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM.

your patriotism can never be in doubt! 'Chillax'.. you're not known to lose your cool even to DQ's. reminds me of ZC.

I didn't say that the song is not good. I said that it's a translation of the british national anthem and thus, didn't really deserve to be where it is.

its not a translation of the british national anthem.. thats false propaganda. ok, maybe the congress goverments over the past 5 decades have not paid attention to it... but do you think the nationalist NDA would allow such a 'derogatory' anthem to be persisted with?



hmmm forget the dirty politicians of today. there's no way that sardar vallabh-bhai patel, lal bahadur shastri and ambedkar would have allowed this to happen.

[DQ]

Did your parents ever even think of naming you STUPID? You're nothing less than a 10kb brain attached to a 27GB mouth.

It's better to be quiet and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubts.

If you read any of my earlier posts you would have realised that time and again I have called PEOPLE TO GROW UP.When arguing, Keep the TOPIC in mind.

Most of you sound educated, did you not learn the basic rule of debating?

Play the ball' - do not criticise the individual speakers, criticise what they say. To call someone fat, ugly or a nerd does not make what they say wrong

IN NO _ WAY DOES THAT MEAN THAT I AM DISRESPECTING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM.

Kitni baar samjhaya that I do respect the poem because of the honour bestowed upon it. But I also feel that the poem is not worthy of the honour. IN NO _ WAY DOES THAT MEAN THAT I AM DISRESPECTING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM.

I didn't say that the song is not good. I said that it's a translation of the british national anthem and thus, didn't really deserve to be where it is.

Anthem - Meaning - A hymn of praise or loyalty



So what are you dis-respecting, when you show disregard to the Song.



READ THE FIRST _ POST OF THIS THREAD, CALLING FOR INDIANS TO WAKE UP ???



SUGGESTING THAT THE SONG IS MISPLACED.



WAKE up to what your absurdities!!!



NOW REFUTING THOSE CHARGES.



WHEN WAS THE ANTHEM INCORPORATED



The Indian National anthem, composed originally in Bengali by Rabindranath Tagore, was adopted in its Hindi version by the Constituent Assembly as the National Anthem of India on 24 January 1950. It was first sung 27 December 1911 at the Calcutta session of the Indian National Congress. The complete song consists of five stanzas. The lyrics were rendered into English by Tagore himself.



HOW IT was used to mock the occupiers ?



Internally all Indians Knew that it was praising the Mother land and GoD. The song sung by INC (during the peak of the independance movement) shows that it was used to show whoever thought it was written for themselves, what it actually meant, and how they were fooled.



The recent calls



Anthem

Recent years I have seen this upsurge, for a call to repeal it. Look on the web and people out there trying to get petitons signed to get thsi changed. For what ?



Flag

To remove the colour green, as it is Pakistans national colour and was proposed by those members of INC who were for creation of Pakistan. ABSURD.



FACT

The Indian flag was designed as a symbol of freedom. The late Prime Minister Nehru called it a flag not only of freedom for ourselves, but a symbol of freedom to all people.



The flag is a horizontal tricolour in equal proportion of deep saffron on the top, white in the middle and dark green at the bottom. The ratio of the width to the length of the flag is two is to three. In the centre of the white band, there is a wheel in navy blue to indicate the Dharma Chakra, the wheel of law in the Sarnath Lion Capital. Its diameter approximates the width of the white band and it has 24 spokes. The saffron stands for courage, sacrifice and the spirit of renunciation; the white, for purity and truth; the green for faith and fertility.



DO NOT COME UP WITH ABSURD NOTIONS. WE INDIANS ARE PROUD OF OUR NATIONAL THEMES. THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT PUT IN BY OUR ELDERS AND FREEDOM FIGHTERS, AND WE WILL FIGHT TO MAINTAIN ITS INTEGRITY.



PS. HP YOU INFACT HAVE CLEARED ALL MY DOUBTS. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE FACTS RESEARCH FIRST BEFORE COMMING BACK.....

[DQ]

I didn't say that the song is not good. I said that it's a translation of the british national anthem and thus, didn't really deserve to be where it is.

IF AND IF ONLY YOU WOULD HAVE READ WHATS BEING DEBATED !!!



AGAIN GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE SLANDERING.



LOLZ Translation of the british national anthem, is this a new theory you are floating.



Even before knowing what the song is you have gone ahead and suggested that it does not deserve its place. HUH.



yes I hate that controversial topic that has spoiled the fabric of independant India. And would not want to discuss any furthur. But get your facts right there too, 6 glaring mistakes in that small paragraph that you have typed.

If you do not know what they are research.

[Habitual Perfectionist]

If you read any of my earlier posts you would have realised that time and again I have called PEOPLE TO GROW UP.When arguing, Keep the TOPIC in mind.

Most of you sound educated, did you not learn the basic rule of debating?

Play the ball' - do not criticise the individual speakers, criticise what they say. To call someone fat, ugly or a nerd does not make what they say wrong

If you read all my posts in this thread, you will see that I have been saying the same thing again and again, but either you choose to ignore my point, or you are simply so dumb that you don't understand what I'm saying. Hence the statement about the 10kb brain and the quote from Mark Twain. More about this later in the post.

And I didn't call you fat, ugly or a nerd. I called you Stupid. And that does have a direct relationship with what you are saying.

Anthem - Meaning - A hymn of praise or loyalty

So what are you dis-respecting, when you show disregard to the Song.

If I say that A is not worthy of the honour XYZ bestowed upon it, am I disrespecting A or XYZ? Calm down and think logically. I'm not propounding rocket science here.

READ THE FIRST _ POST OF THIS THREAD, CALLING FOR INDIANS TO WAKE UP ???

SUGGESTING THAT THE SONG IS MISPLACED.

WAKE up to what your absurdities!!!

I again repeat that as a citizen of free India, I have every right to speak up if I feel that something is not right.

WHEN WAS THE ANTHEM INCORPORATED

The Indian National anthem, composed originally in Bengali by Rabindranath Tagore, was adopted in its Hindi version by the Constituent Assembly as the National Anthem of India on 24 January 1950. It was first sung 27 December 1911 at the Calcutta session of the Indian National Congress. The complete song consists of five stanzas. The lyrics were rendered into English by Tagore himself.

HOW IT was used to mock the occupiers ?

Internally all Indians Knew that it was praising the Mother land and GoD. The song sung by INC (during the peak of the independance movement) shows that it was used to show whoever thought it was written for themselves, what it actually meant, and how they were fooled.

Or maybe Tagore fooled the Congress into believing what he wanted them to.

Recent years I have seen this upsurge, for a call to repeal it. Look on the web and people out there trying to get petitons signed to get this changed. For what ?

I again repeat that a citizen of India has a right to sign those petitions. Just because you don't like them doing what they are, doesn't make whatever they are doing wrong. Let them sign a petition and file a PIL. Let the courts decide if the claim is right or wrong. Who are you to pass a judgement on this?

The flag is a horizontal tricolour in equal proportion of deep saffron on the top, white in the middle and dark green at the bottom. The ratio of the width to the length of the flag is two is to three. In the centre of the white band, there is a wheel in navy blue to indicate the Dharma Chakra, the wheel of law in the Sarnath Lion Capital. Its diameter approximates the width of the white band and it has 24 spokes. The saffron stands for courage, sacrifice and the spirit of renunciation; the white, for purity and truth; the green for faith and fertility.

PS. HP YOU INFACT HAVE CLEARED ALL MY DOUBTS. IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE FACTS RESEARCH FIRST BEFORE COMMING BACK.....

When arguing, Keep the TOPIC in mind.

IF AND IF ONLY YOU WOULD HAVE READ WHATS BEING DEBATED !!!

Kindly enlighten me. All this while I was under the impression that this debate is about the national anthem. Didn't know that the flag and mosque were also involved. Does the scope of the debate cover anything else that I don't know?

LOLZ Translation of the british national anthem, is this a new theory you are floating.

LOLZ its not a new theory.

Even before knowing what the song is you have gone ahead and suggested that it does not deserve its place. HUH.

If knowing what the song is means agreeing with your viewpoint, I'm dumb.

yes I hate that controversial topic that has spoiled the fabric of independant India. And would not want to discuss any furthur. But get your facts right there too, 6 glaring mistakes in that small paragraph that you have typed. If you do not know what they are research.

I leave the research to scholars like you. Once you are done with it or once the effect of this lashing is over (whichever is earlier), come back and you'll get more.

[rainmaker]

Flag
To remove the colour green, as it is Pakistans national colour and was proposed by those members of INC who were for creation of Pakistan. ABSURD.

FACT
The Indian flag was designed as a symbol of freedom. The late Prime Minister Nehru called it a flag not only of freedom for ourselves, but a symbol of freedom to all people.

The saffron and green parts of the flag were suggested to represent the two major communities of undivided India, i.e. Hindus and Muslims respectively. The Islamic Republic of Pakistan was created subsequently, and they adopted a totally green flag. However, during partition, Indian Muslims who did not believe in the flawed concept of Pakistan stayed back in Bharat. Thats how the green part of the flag is an integral part now, and will continue to be. Don't make an issue out of some fool's illogical call for its removal.



Look where a United, Democratic India stands today on the economic and political front - its a progressive nation with one of the most admired electoral processes, strong military, advances in science, premier educational institutions, and a true democracy - compared to Pakistan which is in shambles).



PS: Nehru was a useless statesman, a womanising Indian Britisher who had a Stalinist outlook towards politics. The true heroes of India are Chandrashekhar Azad, Batukeshwar Dutt, Bhagat Singh, Lal-Bal-Pal, Netaji Subash Chandra Bose and Sardar Vallabh-bhai Patel. If you wish to quote a historical figure, please quote these great men and not Nehru.

[DQ]

Your logic of A and XYZ does not mean anything my friend, when it hurts the pride of a Billion People.



Please re think who needs to think logically !



trying to shy away from a glaring mistake that its a translation of the British national anthem. he he, On that basis you continue arguing.

Arguing without getting your facts right.



I have done my research and got my facts right. if you wann live in your castles of Hymns and songs and whats appropriate and not please do so.



That does not affect us Indians !!!



Come back to get more of your absurd propositions. No its the other way round mate, come up with your absurdities and we will show you what the fact is ?



TRANSLATION OF THE BRITISH NATIONAL ANTHEM ---- He He He He



Know what you are arguing first, Mr Logic

[DQ]

PS: Nehru was a useless statesman, a womanising Indian Britisher who had a Stalinist outlook towards politics. The true heroes of India are Chandrashekhar Azad, Batukeshwar Dutt, Bhagat Singh, Lal-Bal-Pal, Netaji Subash Chandra Bose and Sardar Vallabh-bhai Patel. If you wish to quote a historical figure, please quote these great men and not Nehru.

With regard to the National Flag if I do not quote the First PM of India who do I quote?



Why do you get personal mate. You do not respect the man so it does not mean that no one else in the globe should respect him ?



All the other people you have mentioned above have fought for this same flag. SO ?



Womaniser !!! Sounds familiar, when discussing the Nizam too, the only thing that was affecting most of the people there was that he was a womaniser ???



Well will start a new post on this topic Womanising!!



he he he, Was any woman in your family involved in one of his relationship, that it affects you so much. ? he he he

[DQ]

Shiv Sena working president Uddhav Thackeray on Thursday said people refusing to sing Vande Mataram had no reason or right to live in India.



Who is he to decide and how do Indians let him go.



"Let's make one thing clear. Vande Mataram is a prayer-song in honour of our motherland. I am sure Islam doesn't prevent its adherents from bowing before the mother,"



What does Islam have to do here, it could be a Christian, Hindu too who do not know the song or do not want to sing ...SO ?



Or do we consider it an pre election gimmick !!!



Students of his school puss answer. MMs --

[CtrlAltDel]

whats all this hullabaloo abt Vande Mataram....?

frankly, i do not know its lyrics...tho i learnt it when i was in primary school...

remember elections are approacing in maharashtra...expect more such statements from all parties...



the congress too would contribute to this with some stupid statements that is meant to console muslims but wud end up embarrasing them.



take this Uma Bharati's Hubli case for example. in all this noise no one knows how it really started.



In Hubli there is a public ground with a statue of Rani Chennama. Muslims were using it twice a year for special namaaz. this ground is also used for fairs, exhibitions, sports etc the rest of the year. in 1991 or 92, some citizens decided to organize the Republic Day celebrations there. here the then congress government made a huge mistake that finds its echos now. the Chief Minister Bangarappa declared that no flag hoisting wud be permitted there coz...take this...the muslims' feelings wud be hurt (elections were round the corner) and some air headed muslim political leaders took advantage of it and tried to grab the land as their own.



BJP smelt blood here and jumped in the fray (remember the elections...). on republc day, the congress govt imposed curfew but Uma managed to hoist the flag and some fiery speeches on both sides led to riots. the case against Uma Bharati is not that she hoisted the flag, but for inciting riots



this annual headache was solved when some eminent muslim citizens of the city decided to end this nonsense and hoist the flag themselves about 4-5 years ago. the then congress govts. showed some belated wisdom and closed the cases against Mayavati coz they knew how it cud be twisted.....



everything was quiet until now....



now Congress HQ is being just vindictive abt BJP's rants against "tainted ministers" and abt Uma's outburst against Sonia. and BJP is taking advantage of this by twisting the case as one involving the Flag. they are just using it to score political points.



this clearly shows Sonia's petty mindedness and immaturity too.

[malakpetmasala]

i am not really sure, but i was told that if a kid wants to go to a school in the states, he has to sing/memorise the star sprangled banner, independent of his nationality.

so i dont see any point in not singing vande maatram at schools... its our national song for heaven s sake, not like a religious prayer i was forced to sing at my catholic school.

[DQ]

i am not really sure, but i was told that if a kid wants to go to a school in the states, he has to sing/memorise the star sprangled banner, independent of his nationality.
so i dont see any point in not singing vande maatram at schools... its our national song for heaven s sake, not like a religious prayer i was forced to sing at my catholic school.

Whos Opposing it???



1. Whats Islam got to do with it?

2. If you do not sing how do you become Un Indian ?

[malakpetmasala]

i am not really sure, but i was told that if a kid wants to go to a school in the states, he has to sing/memorise the star sprangled banner, independent of his nationality.
so i dont see any point in not singing vande maatram at schools... its our national song for heaven s sake, not like a religious prayer i was forced to sing at my catholic school.

Whos Opposing it???

1. Whats Islam got to do with it?
2. If you do not sing how do you become Un Indian ?

who says Islam has got something to do about it?(I giess u have a guilty conscious.



And constitutionally, if u cant respect the national flag or the national song/anthem, u are liable to be punished. and morally, this is a way of praising our country which has given us so much.

Personally, i d rather praise my mother for what i am and my country for i will be. not someone/something i cant see or comprehend with.

[DQ]

i am not really sure, but i was told that if a kid wants to go to a school in the states, he has to sing/memorise the star sprangled banner, independent of his nationality.
so i dont see any point in not singing vande maatram at schools... its our national song for heaven s sake, not like a religious prayer i was forced to sing at my catholic school.

Whos Opposing it???

1. Whats Islam got to do with it?
2. If you do not sing how do you become Un Indian ?

who says Islam has got something to do about it?(I giess u have a guilty conscious.

And constitutionally, if u cant respect the national flag or the national song/anthem, u are liable to be punished. and morally, this is a way of praising our country which has given us so much.
Personally, i d rather praise my mother for what i am and my country for i will be. not someone/something i cant see or comprehend with.

He he you re affirm your WIT mate.



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... 829039.cms



"Let's make one thing clear. Vande Mataram is a prayer-song in honour of our motherland. I am sure Islam doesn't prevent its adherents from bowing before the mother," Uddhav said



What is the need to specifically mention that. Who is opposing it?????

[malakpetmasala]

i am not really sure, but i was told that if a kid wants to go to a school in the states, he has to sing/memorise the star sprangled banner, independent of his nationality.
so i dont see any point in not singing vande maatram at schools... its our national song for heaven s sake, not like a religious prayer i was forced to sing at my catholic school.

Whos Opposing it???

1. Whats Islam got to do with it?
2. If you do not sing how do you become Un Indian ?

who says Islam has got something to do about it?(I giess u have a guilty conscious.

And constitutionally, if u cant respect the national flag or the national song/anthem, u are liable to be punished. and morally, this is a way of praising our country which has given us so much.
Personally, i d rather praise my mother for what i am and my country for i will be. not someone/something i cant see or comprehend with.

He he you re affirm your WIT mate.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... 829039.cms

"Let's make one thing clear. Vande Mataram is a prayer-song in honour of our motherland. I am sure Islam doesn't prevent its adherents from bowing before the mother," Uddhav said

What is the need to specifically mention that. Who is opposing it?????

I guess he was talking in political reference to mumbai s community in specific. And as we all know he is a wanker too, I have to apologise that i did not read that statement of his, and neither do we know what question of the press resulted to him answering in that way.

Either way, what do u expect from a hardcore hindu fundamentalist party leader?

but coming to the question of being un Indian by not singing it.... i totally agree with the fact that if someone rrefuses to sing it or respect, they ll have to be treated accordingly.

[DQ]

[quote="malakpetmasala

I guess he was talking in political reference to mumbai s community in specific. And as we all know he is a wanker too, I have to apologise that i did not read that statement of his, and neither do we know what question of the press resulted to him answering in that way.

Either way, what do u expect from a hardcore hindu fundamentalist party leader?

but coming to the question of being un Indian by not singing it.... i totally agree with the fact that if someone rrefuses to sing it or respect, they ll have to be treated accordingly.[/quote]



Good that you realise that you do not read. (Need i mention MR F Witty).



Oh so there I see where the disrespect to the national Anthem stems from, Disregard it and make the national song the anthem.



Baffling and confusing, why try to score political points of something that is so neat and simple.



LET THE NATIONAL ANTHEM BE THE NATIONAL ANTHEM

LET THE NATIONAL SONG BE A NATIONAL SONG.



Students begin thier day by singing th anthem why change it???



Why create discord and bad taste by making an issue of nothing. AH there i get it , hes a F***wit too, a Wanker wouldn't do that.

[malakpetmasala]

[quote="malakpetmasala
I guess he was talking in political reference to mumbai s community in specific. And as we all know he is a wanker too, I have to apologise that i did not read that statement of his, and neither do we know what question of the press resulted to him answering in that way.
Either way, what do u expect from a hardcore hindu fundamentalist party leader?
but coming to the question of being un Indian by not singing it.... i totally agree with the fact that if someone rrefuses to sing it or respect, they ll have to be treated accordingly.

Good that you realise that you do not read. (Need i mention MR F Witty).

Oh so there I see where the disrespect to the national Anthem stems from, Disregard it and make the national song the anthem.

Baffling and confusing, why try to score political points of something that is so neat and simple.

LET THE NATIONAL ANTHEM BE THE NATIONAL ANTHEM
LET THE NATIONAL SONG BE A NATIONAL SONG.

Students begin thier day by singing th anthem why change it???

Why create discord and bad taste by making an issue of nothing. AH there i get it , hes a F***wit too, a Wanker wouldn't do that.
[/quote]



dude, i dont get a word of what u are saying. the only thing i knew is that we used to sing the national anthem at the end of the day, not the start.

well, other than that, i did nt understand a word of what u were trying to communicate. well, i guess its just to prove that _ aand wankers dont get along so well.

[DQ]

[quote="malakpetmasala
I guess he was talking in political reference to mumbai s community in specific. And as we all know he is a wanker too, I have to apologise that i did not read that statement of his, and neither do we know what question of the press resulted to him answering in that way.
Either way, what do u expect from a hardcore hindu fundamentalist party leader?
but coming to the question of being un Indian by not singing it.... i totally agree with the fact that if someone rrefuses to sing it or respect, they ll have to be treated accordingly.

Good that you realise that you do not read. (Need i mention MR F Witty).

Oh so there I see where the disrespect to the national Anthem stems from, Disregard it and make the national song the anthem.

Baffling and confusing, why try to score political points of something that is so neat and simple.

LET THE NATIONAL ANTHEM BE THE NATIONAL ANTHEM
LET THE NATIONAL SONG BE A NATIONAL SONG.

Students begin thier day by singing th anthem why change it???

Why create discord and bad taste by making an issue of nothing. AH there i get it , hes a F***wit too, a Wanker wouldn't do that.

dude, i dont get a word of what u are saying. the only thing i knew is that we used to sing the national anthem at the end of the day, not the start.
well, other than that, i did nt understand a word of what u were trying to communicate. well, i guess its just to prove that _ aand wankers dont get along so well.[/quote]



Ah there you go thats exactly why the National Anthem is not respected.



SUNG AT THE END OF THE DAY.... ALL schools should make it compulsory that it is sung each day in the morning, During Assembly.



So students understand its important and your day starts with it.

So when some when comes back with some absurd notions they know where to get them



Well its again a matter of QWIT... With a F'd up Wit you cat get it

[akhilis2cool]

What is the need to specifically mention that. Who is opposing it?????

there are ppl opposing it dude. the BMC (in mumbai) has made it compusary to sing vande mataram in all govt. schools.....but the order is not yet implemented `coz there r ppl opposing it saying that islam dosent allow worship of mother land.

[Habitual Perfectionist]

Your logic of A and XYZ does not mean anything my friend, when it hurts the pride of a Billion People.

I have done my research and got my facts right. if you wann live in your castles of Hymns and songs and whats appropriate and not please do so.

That does not affect us Indians !!!

Till now I thought that you were just stupid. Now I realise you're a confused lardlump too.

Come back to get more of your absurd propositions. No its the other way round mate, come up with your absurdities and we will show you what the fact is ?

Are you ZC in a new avatar by any chance?

[rainmaker]

Womaniser !!! Sounds familiar, when discussing the Nizam too, the only thing that was affecting most of the people there was that he was a womaniser ???
Well will start a new post on this topic Womanising!!

he he he, Was any woman in your family involved in one of his relationship, that it affects you so much. ? he he he

all this while u kept saying "dont get personal" and now u tried to make fun of my family to defend that Ra*ist Womaniser... you may not respect women but I do. so i guess your sexist nature prevents you from honoring Vande Mataram.. u wuldnt bow to anything female, even if it was your mother.



why are you defending the nizam like he was your dad/grand-dad? or maybe he is!!! your mom must have been one of his many illegal "wives".



go look for ur dad nizam in the by-lanes of charminar.

[Habitual Perfectionist]

go look for ur dad nizam in the by-lanes of charminar.

Pehchanne se inkaar kar dega bechara nizam ka descendant. Ye usko bhi paka daalega apne confused arguments se.

[rainmaker]

go look for ur dad nizam in the by-lanes of charminar.

Pehchanne se inkaar kar dega bechara nizam ka descendant. Ye usko bhi paka daalega apne confused arguments se.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Whos Opposing it???

1. Whats Islam got to do with it?
2. If you do not sing how do you become Un Indian ?

I have posted a news article sometime back about a fatwa issued by a maulvi in UP. He threated to expel anyone singing vandemataram from the quam. Check that thread.