Taking Relegion too Seriously

[asli_badmash]

I agree with most of the people here! Its nice to know people think this way.



Religion is a very personal issue. Whenever I am asked the question “Are you religious”? I say “Only God knows” or the best of all HollyWood monk answers "If you are asking that question... you are not ready to hear the answer.. "



God in most of the religions is describes as the indescribable. So if God is indescribable how can anyone define the right way of reaching God vis-à-vis the right religion. I believe we mortals make can attempt at reaching god. There is more than one way to reach God. There is no Mera(My) God Tera(your) God. God is nobody’s baap-ki-jaagir (fathers property).



On the question of religion being taken seriously… I think religion should be taken as seriously as ones attempt to find god. Nobody can force religion upon you and religion should never be forced. Its not how you pray.. it not what you say when you pray. Its a search. It comes from within you…



On the question of religion evolving with time… Its very subjective… Since I am a Muslim let me take the example of Islam.



In terms of religious laws.. Shariat should evolve. FYI; Shariat is not religion. Shariat is the jurisprudence arm of Islam. Somebody wrote about Afghanistan and the cruel practices there. It pains me to see people killing in the name of Islam. Certainly the Shariat should be modified to include new laws for the current times and antiquate some of the old ones.



In terms of religion evolving.. Religion should not change. I say that because in the hands of wrong people religion is given a new meaning and the true word can never be preserved. For example, a Father of a church in present day England is talking about distributing drugs at mass. Do you think Christ would have liked that? If he would have wanted it to be this way, he would have had the bong at the last supper himself. Imagine Jesus at the last supper going “Yo yo.. puff-puff pass sucker... puff-puff pass ”



My 2 cents about the Barber story. (Nice story by the way)



If there are barbers and the job of barbers is to clean people. Why don’t they clean all people irrespective of whether the people go to them or not. Barbers can’t do that... because barbers work for money and God doesn’t. God’s job and Barbers job cannot be equated. Everybody knows that barbers exist… but does God exist? You decide!



My thought: The story was nice but its still doesn’t prove anything. The whole story hinges on the predicate that God's job is like that of a Barber; which in my opinion is wrong.

[CtrlAltDel]

good points Badmash...



i wish to clarify something here.



u wrote:

In terms of religious laws.. Shariat should evolve......In terms of religion evolving.. Religion should not change.

when i said "Religion should evolve", i too meant Religious Laws, not Religion itself...

[Kenny]

yeah..... but I guess it's to be taken in jest......

[Kenny]

I was referring to badmash's comment about the story... should have quoted

[oneminutecooler]

a little rant of mine pertaining to the topic

Lol. So your mind is under-developed right rock?

Lol. Sorry guys, just a little, ummm..."inside joke" between me and rock.

OMC, i can assure u that that isnt an inside joke. Everybody here(well, almost anyway) knows how under-developed my brain is. What say, CAD?

Lol.

[rainmaker]

God’s job and Barbers job cannot be equated.

true.. i think that line just about sums it up.

[DQ]

Indiference of like minded and open people like your self (Not me I have been named Bigot, Mullah etc etc..) Helps in Al Qaida etc etc take predence.

:? if i dont take religion seriously, how does that make me indiferent? i think it makes me think objectively without prejudice
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Here indifference means the ability to question. While thinking objectively if you question those who have taken over the mantle state of affairs will not be what they are today.

sorry...tho these things are started by america, it has everything to do with the terrorists' religious beliefs.

How are relegiuos beliefs to blame ?
Resources unlimited pumped in to provide infrastructure, for something at the base is incorrect. And then people like yourselfs sit and watch saying do not take relegion too seriously.

Instead you could have questioned the authenticity of their action in the first place ?

i havent studied all religions, so i dont know. but since religious rules were framed 100s of years ago, many of them obviously wont fit in the current scenario. thats common sense.

How would you say that they do not fit ? When in the face you expect people not to be serious with it at all.

here is the problem. hinduism has no founder. it was a way of life with certain rules accepted by society. these rules forbade widow remarriage. there were many such rules that came and went, like Sati, Caste System etc.
of corz here evolution was easy since there is no concept of a common law that all are forced to follow.

Caste system I do not know much about.

Sati was again situational, practice. No scriptures promote Sati (As far as I know). It was to protect the sagacity and trauma women had to go through then when kingdoms were invaded.



And then it got inculcated and was thought a taboo not to do sati when the need was not there at all.



Anyway its abolished now !!!



Away for a couple of Hours and what a mess you have made of this topic.

[rock_26iin]

My thought: The story was nice but its still doesn’t prove anything. The whole story hinges on the predicate that God's job is like that of a Barber; which in my opinion is wrong.

AB, that story was not equating a barber's job to God's divine work. The point being made in the story was about "faith". If people have faith in God and believe in him, there shouldn't be much problem, however when people decide to abandon God, they turn ruthless (not everyone) as they think that they have nothing to fear.



I'm not saying that Athieism (is that a word? ) is wrong. I will again repeat what I said ealier, religion is just a guide on how to live your life. You may accept it or forego it, its your call.



P.S.: I agree i may have painted a negative picture on Athieism but it was all in good intent. No offence was meant to anyone

[Kenny]

I agree i may have painted a negative picture on Athieism but it was all in good intent. No offence was meant to anyone

and none whatsoever taken.... good story

[Scorpion's Sting]

and none whatsoever taken....

cool

good story

Thank you