Importance of Education. Government not doing enough.

[Indian]

Though the enlightnment has reached each and every home in India, about education. The Government is not doing enough.







Salute to the Kids and Parents who are going all out to educate their children.



But due to corrupt officials and inept govt regulations our children are not getting the fair share.



Tragedies like kumbakonam are bound to happen if Govt does not wake up ????

[DQ]

Read this article !!!





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[CtrlAltDel]

right frm the time of independence the govt gave more importance to higher education and promoted great universities and institutions like IIMs, IIScs, IITs etc. but they forgot the school system which is equally, if not more, important.

its time govt spent more on primary education and improves the govt schools. this wud solve problem of illiteracy too.

tho' the constitution speaks abt Right to Primary Education n all dat, it cannot be implemented coz no good govt. schools are available for the masses esp in rural areas. the private schools that try to fill the gap are not regulated n results in "teach shops" in every galli that may not offer standard education for the fees they collect.

[DQ]

So the Bureaucrats and Babu's were thinking about their own kith and kin.



Independence was won for one and all was it not ?



So post independence, those ruled who licked the asses of the rulers, got themselves educated in foreign universities, improved the quality of education for the privelaged lot.



These privelaged got educated and started running corrupt govts.



These corrupt officials, got about swindling money that was set aside for the education of the underprivelaged.



When the money did not go where it should have, the poor lost out, the only options left to them was



1. Fight - Either crime or Naxalism

2. Serve these privelaged.



Now the money swindlers got about building their own schools, with no basic infrastructure(kumbakonam etc) and focus on quality of education.



The only challenge to them was from



1. The missonary schools - so where possible they went about defaming these schools by saying this is the source of relegious conversion



2. The minority institutions - Targetting them as being jihadis or qualityless

The two major contributions to the education system pre independance were sidelined. The Aligarh Muslim University (was sidelined). The Osmania university (Which was secular, as it was run under the Nizam) was taken over by these Babus.



The prefrential treatment meant that the minorities got sidelined.



Where is the govt wrong in bringing reservations, to uplift these people.

Yes reservation again should not be abused as the rest of the system is. Reservation if reaches the needy will bring about a more prosperous India.



The people speaking angainst should give this a thought.



Anyway, not getting into the sensitive communal issue. Every child born in India should receive Education atleast upto Year 12. Every able Indian should take this as his / her responsibility to ensure that they help and fight for a govt that will bring about this!!!!

[Sprite]

Hey up to 12 is not enough........



taking into consideration todays community........only a PG can help or else its just to show that u r educated



wat do ya ppl thnk

[Mayavi Morpheus]

This may be a futile excercise, but I will try to point out the fallacies in your logic.

So the Bureaucrats and Babu's were thinking about their own kith and kin.

Wrong. When India got independence the priority was higher education, esp in technology as good India doesnt have any good universtires . This prompted Nehru, who was influenced by socialism, to establish large PSU's by creating infrastructure and IIT's, which are still considered the best in the world, to produce quality engineers.
All Indians who were 12th pass could apply for these Instituitions and not just the kin and kith of babus. Today majority of the students who are admitted into IIT's are middle class people and admission is based on merit.

Independence was won for one and all was it not ?

Yep and so are the technological universities.

So post independence, those ruled who licked the asses of the rulers, got themselves educated in foreign universities, improved the quality of education for the privelaged lot.

YOu are assuming that higher education is only for the privilaged, nothing can be far from truth. Just take a look at the people studying in IIT's or IIM's. There wouldnt have been a Infosys or a Sun microsystems if ther was only primary education in India and not the IIT's for higher education.
And some of the foreign educated people are :
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi: Studied Law in UK, left lucrative career to fight for independance
Jawaharlal Nehru: Law in UK, freedom fighter.
Prakasham pantulu : Law in UK, donated millions to the masses and became freedom fighter and eventually CM of AP. Died a poor man without anything to eat (being CM of AP)
Why did they have to go to UK? To get a better education as there were no good universities in India.
Post independance, those who were educated in foreign lands never returned home to do a stoopid government job.

These privelaged got educated and started running corrupt govts.

The educated became privilaged and not the other way. They did not run government, the politicians who are elected by these uneducated masses run the govt.

When the money did not go where it should have, the poor lost out, the only options left to them was

1. Fight - Either crime or Naxalism
2. Serve these privelaged.

mmmm... naxalites are very educated people after all their idealogy is derived from marxism/leninism. Primary education has got nothing do with naxalism.
As for serving the privilaged, I dont see anything wrong in it. Please explain.

The only challenge to them was from

1. The missonary schools - so where possible they went about defaming these schools by saying this is the source of relegious conversion

Just take a look at the list of top schools or any good school in any city, village, basti - they all start with a st. XXXXXXX. What does that tell you?
Missionaries are a source of conversion, not missionary schools. Atleast I have never heard of such allegation, please point to any such news report (credible one).

2. The minority institutions - Targetting them as being jihadis or qualityless
The two major contributions to the education system pre independance were sidelined. The Aligarh Muslim University (was sidelined). The Osmania university (Which was secular, as it was run under the Nizam) was taken over by these Babus.

AMU sidelined? When, where?
You still want Nizam to rule hyderabad, dont you? Dont you know that all universities in India are under government and there is nothing special about OU? OU is still a reputed university in AP.

The prefrential treatment meant that the minorities got sidelined.

Is there a special policy that minorities should not be admitted to universities? Can you point me to any such malpractice or preferential treatment given to majority community? We can pursue the case in court.
Btw, I am sure youy heard about minority instituitions where minorities get special treatment. Unfortunately there are no such institutes for majority community.

Where is the govt wrong in bringing reservations, to uplift these people.
Yes reservation again should not be abused as the rest of the system is. Reservation if reaches the needy will bring about a more prosperous India.

Reservationsa are meant for people who were oppressed, esp in hindu community where dalits were not allowed to pursue education, as a direct result of it they lagged behind the majority community. To bring them on par with the forward castes reservation was introduced. Tell me, pray, when was the muslim community or christians for that matter not allowed to study? If they are lagging behind in education, its their own doing. Dont even get me started on madrassas.

Anyway, not getting into the sensitive communal issue. Every child born in India should receive Education atleast upto Year 12. Every able Indian should take this as his / her responsibility to ensure that they help and fight for a govt that will bring about this!!!!

Finally something which we agree on. Yes, every citizen should have a right to education (equal oppurtunity, if I may say) and more money should be spent on this but donot blame higer education for lack of primary education.



PS: Please donot ask me to grow up in reply to this post. Kinda tired of it. Thanks.

[DQ]

For some reason, part of your reply makes sense!!!



I knew some of my statements were instigating, but for once you have not tred the communal line. (THESTING )



Well for the other statements where I need to correct you!! Will get back later. Kinda beze today.

[DQ]

Answer to Mayavi ---- > Look technological universities are good and for all. When a person cannot afford a meal where will he go!!!



The government needs to concentrate on this. Read the following Deccan Chronicle Article.



I want to study,” says Mohammed Moosa, 10, who works in a zari workshop in Talabkatta of the old city. “But my folks want me to work and earn,” he says. Little Moosa’s words echo the sentiments of hundreds of kids — all child labourers — working in hotels, motor work shops, bakeries, and furniture shops in the old city, and also as petty vendors selling fruits and cigarettes on the roadside.



Many of them want to study, but their families are mired in poverty and they have to work. According to the 2001 census figures, there are about 23,000 child labourers in the city and majority of them live in the old city. Child labour is rampant in Bhavaninagar, Talabkatta, Ammannagar and Siddiqu-enagar of old city, where a large number of children work for almost 12 hours a day, embellishing zari embroidery on sarees.



“We are from a poor family. My father drives an autorickshaw and I have three sisters. My father does not earn enough to run the family. So I have to work,” he says. Moosa speaks for hundreds of others like him. Several poverty-stricken children feel that it is better to work and feed their family than go to school. Their hard day begins at 10 am and ends at midnight. They get a one-hour break in the afternoon for lunch.



The zari shop owners are also happy employing children in their shops. They pay just Rs 400 per week to these kids. If adult labourers are hired to do the work, they would have to pay them Rs 80 for just seven hours of work. Some of the children are not aware of the value of education. “What will I do after studying anyway?” asks one kid, Mohammed Saleem.



Eleven-year-old Moha-mmad Raza of Ammannagar too has the same view and says if he doesn’t work his family will have to face a lot of problems. “I have no option other than going to work and earn money,” he says. The State government is trying to lure the kids to school by distributing free bags, pens and uniforms, but enrolment is low. Even the few who enroll drop out after some time.



The analysis is so very true. You want to experience this. Stand near Gulzar House between 8:00 am to 11:00 am, there are kids going to schools and there are kids with a small packet in hand, (probably left overs etc ) going to work.



If you need to observe this you need to observe it from an unbiased angle. Kids as young as 7 would be seen going to work. What must be the plight of a parent who lets his 7 year old take a bus and go to a different part of the city to earn a daily living.



Now if child labour is abolished who will feed him ?

And if it this goes on then generation after generation will live this life.



When you drink tea at some cafe, notice that table cleaner. Just talk to him for a minute or so (not long else he will get belted by the stand guy or the person at the counter).

When you are at a jewellers shop notice who serves the cool drink. These are children who deserve a better life. The GOVT and people like you and me need to do our best.

[DQ]

Hey up to 12 is not enough........

taking into consideration todays community........only a PG can help or else its just to show that u r educated

wat do ya ppl thnk

Right Sprite!!! For a start get year 12s and furthur vocational education. The next generation over it will be Phds etc.....

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Answer to Mayavi ---- > Look technological universities are good and for all. When a person cannot afford a meal where will he go!!!

The government needs to concentrate on this. Read the following Deccan Chronicle Article.

The State government is trying to lure the kids to school by distributing free bags, pens and uniforms, but enrolment is low. Even the few who enroll drop out after some time.

mmmm.. I dont understand your post DQ. My post was about the importance of higher education, esp technical education, and I said that government is spending reasonably enough money on primary education (though it is always less than what is needed). Your post (bolded part) vindicates my stand.

[black wizard]

Answer to Mayavi ---- > Look technological universities are good and for all. When a person cannot afford a meal where will he go!!!

The government needs to concentrate on this. Read the following Deccan Chronicle Article.

I want to study,” says Mohammed Moosa, 10, who works in a zari workshop in Talabkatta of the old city. “But my folks want me to work and earn,” he says. Little Moosa’s words echo the sentiments of hundreds of kids — all child labourers — working in hotels, motor work shops, bakeries, and furniture shops in the old city, and also as petty vendors selling fruits and cigarettes on the roadside.

Many of them want to study, but their families are mired in poverty and they have to work. According to the 2001 census figures, there are about 23,000 child labourers in the city and majority of them live in the old city. Child labour is rampant in Bhavaninagar, Talabkatta, Ammannagar and Siddiqu-enagar of old city, where a large number of children work for almost 12 hours a day, embellishing zari embroidery on sarees.

“We are from a poor family. My father drives an autorickshaw and I have three sisters. My father does not earn enough to run the family. So I have to work,” he says. Moosa speaks for hundreds of others like him. Several poverty-stricken children feel that it is better to work and feed their family than go to school. Their hard day begins at 10 am and ends at midnight. They get a one-hour break in the afternoon for lunch.

The zari shop owners are also happy employing children in their shops. They pay just Rs 400 per week to these kids. If adult labourers are hired to do the work, they would have to pay them Rs 80 for just seven hours of work. Some of the children are not aware of the value of education. “What will I do after studying anyway?” asks one kid, Mohammed Saleem.

Eleven-year-old Moha-mmad Raza of Ammannagar too has the same view and says if he doesn’t work his family will have to face a lot of problems. “I have no option other than going to work and earn money,” he says. The State government is trying to lure the kids to school by distributing free bags, pens and uniforms, but enrolment is low. Even the few who enroll drop out after some time.

The analysis is so very true. You want to experience this. Stand near Gulzar House between 8:00 am to 11:00 am, there are kids going to schools and there are kids with a small packet in hand, (probably left overs etc ) going to work.

If you need to observe this you need to observe it from an unbiased angle. Kids as young as 7 would be seen going to work. What must be the plight of a parent who lets his 7 year old take a bus and go to a different part of the city to earn a daily living.

Now if child labour is abolished who will feed him ?
And if it this goes on then generation after generation will live this life.

When you drink tea at some cafe, notice that table cleaner. Just talk to him for a minute or so (not long else he will get belted by the stand guy or the person at the counter).
When you are at a jewellers shop notice who serves the cool drink. These are children who deserve a better life. The GOVT and people like you and me need to do our best.

u guys have a lot of patience to write stuff like ^^^^!

[Mayavi Morpheus]

That an article in DC

[black wizard]

That an article in DC

...copy paste maamla, hainn?

[azazel]

u guys have a lot of patience to write stuff like

unlike some spammers..

[DQ]

Answer to Mayavi ---- > Look technological universities are good and for all. When a person cannot afford a meal where will he go!!!

The government needs to concentrate on this. Read the following Deccan Chronicle Article.

I want to study,” says Mohammed Moosa, 10, who works in a zari workshop in Talabkatta of the old city. “But my folks want me to work and earn,” he says. Little Moosa’s words echo the sentiments of hundreds of kids — all child labourers — working in hotels, motor work shops, bakeries, and furniture shops in the old city, and also as petty vendors selling fruits and cigarettes on the roadside.

Many of them want to study, but their families are mired in poverty and they have to work. According to the 2001 census figures, there are about 23,000 child labourers in the city and majority of them live in the old city. Child labour is rampant in Bhavaninagar, Talabkatta, Ammannagar and Siddiqu-enagar of old city, where a large number of children work for almost 12 hours a day, embellishing zari embroidery on sarees.

“We are from a poor family. My father drives an autorickshaw and I have three sisters. My father does not earn enough to run the family. So I have to work,” he says. Moosa speaks for hundreds of others like him. Several poverty-stricken children feel that it is better to work and feed their family than go to school. Their hard day begins at 10 am and ends at midnight. They get a one-hour break in the afternoon for lunch.

The zari shop owners are also happy employing children in their shops. They pay just Rs 400 per week to these kids. If adult labourers are hired to do the work, they would have to pay them Rs 80 for just seven hours of work. Some of the children are not aware of the value of education. “What will I do after studying anyway?” asks one kid, Mohammed Saleem.

Eleven-year-old Moha-mmad Raza of Ammannagar too has the same view and says if he doesn’t work his family will have to face a lot of problems. “I have no option other than going to work and earn money,” he says. The State government is trying to lure the kids to school by distributing free bags, pens and uniforms, but enrolment is low. Even the few who enroll drop out after some time.

The analysis is so very true. You want to experience this. Stand near Gulzar House between 8:00 am to 11:00 am, there are kids going to schools and there are kids with a small packet in hand, (probably left overs etc ) going to work.

If you need to observe this you need to observe it from an unbiased angle. Kids as young as 7 would be seen going to work. What must be the plight of a parent who lets his 7 year old take a bus and go to a different part of the city to earn a daily living.

Now if child labour is abolished who will feed him ?
And if it this goes on then generation after generation will live this life.

When you drink tea at some cafe, notice that table cleaner. Just talk to him for a minute or so (not long else he will get belted by the stand guy or the person at the counter).
When you are at a jewellers shop notice who serves the cool drink. These are children who deserve a better life. The GOVT and people like you and me need to do our best.

TO KEEP a BLOG OF RELATED STORIES

Hyderabad: Eight-year-old Syed Israr Ali speaks good English, is quick with mathematical problems, and shows off his report card. He is first in class.

What makes Israr different from other whiz kids is that he is also a breadwinner for his family of six. The visibly undernourished boy makes sweet boxes to supplement his father Syed Ayub Ali’s earnings of Rs 2,000 per month.

Once, when the discussion turned to pulling Israr and his sister Asma out of school so they could earn enough to make things a bit more comfortable for the family, the father would hear none of it. Much as he would like his burden eased, Ayub Ali was fiercely averse to the idea of abandoning the children to the vocation of making sweet boxes for the rest of their lives. “I need their help, and I know that working and studying puts a burden on them. But I won’t pull them out of school,’’ says the father.

Israr’s hectic schedule of juggling books and boxes has caused his grades to slip. But the boy is not discouraged. “I don’t miss a single day of school. I am trying hard to be first in class again. After all, I want to become a computer engineer,’’ he says.

Israr’s choice is the same as that facing thousands of young citizens in today’s Heartland Hyderabad: the balance of struggle and study. Each citizen of this Original City—rich or poor, young and old, articulate or tongue-tied—knows in his bones that education offers the only escape from the maze.

Butcher’s son Mohammed Aftab came to the same fork in the road as Israr. He goes to the same school in Yakutpura. He too is good at maths and had progressed up to class VII when he realised that he didn’t want to become a butcher like his father and several uncles. Why not, he wanted to become an engineer too.

Aftab’s family made no secret of their need for him to go to work as a butcher’s apprentice. This time, the son wouldn’t have it. The wannabe engineer threatened to run away if he was pulled out of school. The question is posed to everyone in the gullies of Yakutpura: when school is the way out and work is the path to survival, which do you take?

To those spectators in Comfortable Hyderabad, it must come as a surprise that the first option is the preferred one, and has always been, in Asli Hyderabad.

Mohammed Afroz Khan is 16 years old, and works 12 hours a day in a medical shop at Yakutpura and earns Rs 1,600 a month. He is a master of that mother of all arts, the ability to read the handwriting of doctors, and can fill a prescription even if it is written in cipher. He has never been to school.

One summer day this year, the bug bit him and he enrolled for a weekly class at Maryam School at Yakutpura. After not missing a class for six months, he polished up his speech, and learnt to write his name and crack a few sums.

Then the Seth began to wonder aloud if this education was not getting in the way of attending to custom. The brat made his choice clear: “Seth, if you stop me from going to the classes I’ll quit.’’ That cleared the air. No one can read a prescription like Afroz can in Yakutpura.

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THIS HAS ME SCATING IN ANGER. WHAT IS REQUIRED. WHEN WILL SENSE PREVAIL.





LAST YEAR IT WAS HORROR AT KUMBAKONAM. INNUMERABLE INCIDENTS SINCE THEN.



INSTEAD OF AN ANNUAL URS OR A RATH YATRA, INSTEAD OF SPENDING RESOURCES ON RECONSTRUCTING A MOSQUE OR CONSTRUCTING A TEMPLE WHAT WE NEED TO CONCENTRATE ON SAFETY FOR ALL.







HORROR AT ST. ANN’S







Little Girl Run Over By Rogue Van Outside School; 5 Others Hurt





By R Dinesh Kumar/TNN







Hyderabad: The calm of a Secunderabad afternoon was shattered by a horrific accident outside St Ann’s on Thursday. A DCM van hurtling along the road outside the school ran over a group of kindergarten children being helped across the road by their van driver.

Little Rithika, all of four years, was crushed to death and van driver Syed Dastagir Pasha was dragged 20 feet by the killer vehicle. He is battling for his life in hospital. Four other pre-schoolers—S Rajeswari, 5, B Drisha Reddy, 4, Ayesha, 5, T Shiva Tapasvi, 5,—are in hospital with grievous injuries.

A Times of India correspondent was at the spot when the gruesome accident took place. This is his first-person account:

It was like any August day, the sun playing hide-and-seek with the clouds. A drizzle started as I entered St. Ann’s to pick up my niece at 1 pm. I admonished myself for not getting a raincoat, but the children coming out seemed happy.

I was at the gate with my niece when we heard a thud and the screech of a vehicle. I left my niece and rushed over. In the silence of the moment, I could hear my heart pound as I saw the scene ahead—a little girl lay limp on the road, like a flower crushed and rubbed on the floor. Like me, other bystanders, including the lone traffic cop, were similarly immobilised.

About 20 feet away stood a man by a DCM van carrying marble slabs, his face white. Another man was caught under the wheels of the van. The eeriness was shattered by the wails of four or five children, their faces smeared with blood.

It was a sight that would make a hard man weep.

In maybe seconds, but it seemed a long time, we came to. The teachers, controlling their sobs, and the autodrivers, hard men in tears, hurried the children back inside. The trembling DCM driver was caught and put in the principal’s office so he could not flee.

The school staff and I worked the phones—the police, the ambulance—and the parents. It fell to me to call Rithika’s father. I composed myself and told him about the accident and asked him to rush to school. “Is my daughter safe?” he asked, his voice trembling.

I couldn’t tell him his child was dead.

The injured kids were put in a vehicle and sent to Yashoda Hospital. About 15 minutes later, a swarm of police officers descended on the scene, and after much persuasion, took the DCM driver into custody.

In the next one hour, chaos gave way to reason. Everyone was searching for an answer, but it was too late for Rithika.



TIMES NEWS NETWORK

Hyderabad: Rithika had joined St Ann’s two months ago. It was her first year in a ‘big school’ and her parents took her there and back themselves to ease her into it.

Rithika’s dad, N Hanumantha Rao, is a business manager in IDBI, and her mother Lakshmi Rajyam is a lecturer in Kasturba Gandhi Women’s College in Marredpally. The family lived in Gandhinagar. After a few weeks, when Rithika seemed to be enjoying herself at St Ann’s, they arranged an auto for her and found Syed Dastagir Pasha.

It was a happy, chattering lot that rode to school on Pasha’s auto every day: S Rajeswari, UKG, B Drisha Reddy, UKG, Ayesha, 5, LKG, T Shiva Tapasvi, 5, UKG and Rithika, LKG.

Everyday afternoon, when Pasha would come to pick them up, he had to park the auto on the other side of the road. The divider would not let him make a U-turn to park at the school gate. So, everyday, the little group and their Driver Uncle would cross the road, hand in hand and walking abreast.

On Thursday, as the rattling DCM came up from St John’s circle, Rithika was furthest in the line poised to cross the road. Unsighted by the others, she went a step forward just as the DCM roared up. Pasha realised the danger at the very last moment and held up his hands to stop the van. But the momentum of the marble-laden van carried it right into the children.



How it happened



Kindgergarten ends at 1.00 pm. Driver Pasha brings Rithika & group out of St. Ann’s.

Rithika is furthest away from oncoming DCM van. She is unsighted and steps forward.

Pasha realises the danger and tries to stop the van, but it’s too late.

DCM van wades into the group. Rithika is run over and others receive glancing injuries.



School puts kids’ life at crossroads

[akhilis2cool]

how was a heavy vehicle allowed near a school when it was closing for the day?

[DQ]

how was a heavy vehicle allowed near a school when it was closing for the day?

Yea SHUCKS.



A 4 year old is ploughed on the same roads that we ply on.



We can call ourselves "Napunsaks" if cannot do anything about this. ****Please dont take this personally and start a tirade here as well****





Pathetic. Pathetic.

[akhilis2cool]

how was a heavy vehicle allowed near a school when it was closing for the day?

Yea SHUCKS.

A 4 year old is ploughed on the same roads that we ply on.

We can call ourselves "Napunsaks" if cannot do anything about this. ****Please dont take this personally and start a tirade here as well****


Pathetic. Pathetic.

heck no. who wld. want to start a fight here.

[DQ]

how was a heavy vehicle allowed near a school when it was closing for the day?

Yea SHUCKS.

A 4 year old is ploughed on the same roads that we ply on.

We can call ourselves "Napunsaks" if cannot do anything about this. ****Please dont take this personally and start a tirade here as well****


Pathetic. Pathetic.

heck no. who wld. want to start a fight here.

You never know.

[CtrlAltDel]

Little Girl Run Over By Rogue Van Outside School; 5 Others Hurt

very bad...i cudnt even think straight today morning after reading abt it in the papers.



i believe a school official had commented that "outside the school, it is not our problem"...or something to that effect...

[DQ]

Little Girl Run Over By Rogue Van Outside School; 5 Others Hurt

very bad...i cudnt even think straight today morning after reading abt it in the papers.

i believe a school official had commented that "outside the school, it is not our problem"...or something to that effect...

Can't blame the school official, they are not trained to deal with the Press / media.



Something has to be done there. Our roads are turning into a major killer.



- School zones, need to have Policing.

- Children crossings near schools

- Regular drills training children on school safety rules.



But still again what will you train a 4 year old for. SHUCKS NO.

[CtrlAltDel]

- School zones, need to have Policing.
- Children crossings near schools
- Regular drills training children on school safety rules.

yes...

and there has to be a foot over-bridge across the road, a beggar free one at that.

[DQ]

- School zones, need to have Policing.
- Children crossings near schools
- Regular drills training children on school safety rules.

yes...
and there has to be a foot over-bridge across the road, a beggar free one at that.

Yea, Allegedly the authorties were sitting on a request by the school for a foot over bridge. I would like to meet the Officer sitting on the file personally. B*****D.

[KK]

FYI, government has significantly reduced finantial support to IITs