Does he deserve mercy??

[dumpster]

The government is not the country, the people are the country. If you see the government messing it up you have an obligation to do something. I know lots of people in India don't rate Gandhi as highly as the rest of the world do but the man knew what he was talking about when he said "You must be the change you wish to see in the world"

you western ppl only like to do that - divert frm the real topic and talk about some old senti stuff just to get mileage..



george bush did the same thing.. talk about WMD and _ a nation just to steal its oil. and his puppy dog tony blair supports him coz he wants a bit of the meat.



our topic was about death penalty and u talk about protesting and how good it is bah !!!

[dumpster]

I know lots of people in India don't rate Gandhi as highly as the rest of the world do but the man knew what he was talking about when he said "You must be the change you wish to see in the world"

Gandhiji was talking about CHANGE change of government and kicking out of white foren rulers who r stamping on my indian brothers so cruelly

[akhilis2cool]

shdnt this thread b in the problems....section

any way...good that guys mercy petition was rejected......but then theyr going to appeal agn in the SC....lets hope the SC uphoalds the presidents decision

[dumpster]

shdnt this thread b in the problems....section
any way...good that guys mercy petition was rejected......but then theyr going to appeal agn in the SC....lets hope the SC uphoalds the presidents decision

i am so proud of our president saab for rejecting his mercy. our country has to learn from these kinda ppl's executions about how much the value of a life is..



did u hear that dhananjoy's family said they'll all commit suicide??? they should have done that long ago when he raped and killed that poor teenage girl..

[marko]

you western ppl only like to do that - divert frm the real topic and talk about some old senti stuff just to get mileage..

george bush did the same thing.. talk about WMD and _ a nation just to steal its oil. and his puppy dog tony blair supports him coz he wants a bit of the meat.

our topic was about death penalty and u talk about protesting and how good it is bah !!!

You were the one who brought up protesting, by saying

and mr marko, u r free to hold protests against DP in ur country. u can walk upto washington DC and hold placards against bush.. dats how it works there. and dat is why u have more crime in USA than in india[u].

I have been responding to that.


Also on your post about Gandhi,

Gandhiji was talking about CHANGE change of government and kicking out of white foren rulers who r stamping on my indian brothers so cruelly

Exactly. But rulers don't have to be white and foreign to be cruel. If you trust your government simply because they've got the same skin colour as you, then good luck!

[marko]

shdnt this thread b in the problems....section
any way...good that guys mercy petition was rejected......but then theyr going to appeal agn in the SC....lets hope the SC uphoalds the presidents decision

no it shouldn't

Welcome to the largest Hyderabadi forum anywhere! Start and join discussions about everything ranging from local and national issues to global terrorism and upma recipes, ask for help/opinions, make new friends, and generally hold forth!

sorry for drifting off topic a bit there. I was responding to the guy who thinks that we have more crime in the US (not that i'm from there, but anyway) because we protest against the government

[dumpster]

Exactly. But rulers don't have to be white and foreign to be cruel. If you trust your government simply because they've got the same skin colour as you, then good luck!

what do u know about india and her struggle for freedom???



do u know that the british rulers stole away millions of pounds of jewellery and diamonds from india and till now did not return them back??? if england returns even half of what they took and are storing in their British museums, India will at least regain part of her lost glory.





fyi, india is the only country here which has never invaded any land, unlike the british where the sun never sets on the british empire and "indians and dogs are not allowed".

[marko]

what do u know about india and her struggle for freedom???

do u know that the british rulers stole away millions of pounds of jewellery and diamonds from india and till now did not return them back??? if england returns even half of what they took and are storing in their British museums, India will at least regain part of her lost glory.


fyi, india is the only country here which has never invaded any land, unlike the british where the sun never sets on the british empire and "indians and dogs are not allowed".

Now who's getting "senti"! Your not making sense at the moment bud, you were arguing against protest against the government but one of the best examples of this in the 20th century gave rise to your nation.

FYI, India is not the only country which has not invaded any other land, there are many others. Mine, for 1.

[dumpster]

but one of the best examples of this in the 20th century gave rise to your nation.

yes we wanted "change" by being our own rulers and not listening to ppl like Winston Churchill who said indians cannot take care of themselves.. they need us to control them.

FYI, India is not the only country which has not invaded any other land, there are many others. Mine, for 1.

pray which country r u from? you seem to be from outer galaxy.[/quote]

[marko]

pray which country r u from? you seem to be from outer galaxy.

if you really want to know then do a search. i've already introduced myself.

I'm not going to post on this thread again, but to sum up what i've been saying, if you truely believe that your nation is great, then it's up to you to make sure the government keeps it that way. if you really believe the way forward is to sit back, wait for the government to change, and not get involved then you have no grasp of history. I'll leave you with a nice little quote from a man who did not trust his govenment, and for good reason.

'First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said nothing.
Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat, so I did nothing.
Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist.
And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did little.
Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me.'

[akhilis2cool]

shdnt this thread b in the problems....section
any way...good that guys mercy petition was rejected......but then theyr going to appeal agn in the SC....lets hope the SC uphoalds the presidents decision

no it shouldn't

dekho bhaai...u r against punishment to innocents....he is not innocent.

[dumpster]

dekho bhaai...u r against punishment to innocents....he is not innocent.

for marko the merciful, anyone should be spared even if he rapes and kills and is proven guilty. wah re wah. i wonder why we should have courts or prisons at all....

[azazel]

for marko the merciful, anyone should be spared even if he rapes and kills and is proven guilty. wah re wah. i wonder why we should have courts or prisons at all....

dude, make an effort to knw his stand before u pass judgements. we've had a very nice debate without ever making personal attacks on each other. respect the opinion of others even if it differs from urz, then only u can expect others to take u a lil' seriously..



peace

[Mayavi Morpheus]

dude, make an effort to knw his stand before u pass judgements

hehehe... you are asking for too much from archana dahling a.k.a Oyes

[CtrlAltDel]

dude, make an effort to knw his stand before u pass judgements

hehehe... you are asking for too much from archana dahling a.k.a Oyes

:lol: (s)he just wont giveup! now (s)he is presenting his/her crude side here....

[dumpster]

dude, make an effort to knw his stand before u pass judgements

hehehe... you are asking for too much from archana dahling a.k.a Oyes

:lol: (s)he just wont giveup! now (s)he is presenting his/her crude side here....

hey cad and mm how r u guyz doing? for da last time, who is this archana? and why do you keep calling me archana? i'm a guy (sorry i won't tell my real name) and its annoying to relate me to someone you used to know.



anyway about marko's message, its just that i don't want someone coming out of nowhere and preaching us about capital punishment when they were the ones to do much crap like Jalianwallah Bagh incident and other massacres. was that not capital punishment of a kind where so many innocent ppl lost their lives?? and now they want to preach to us about saving human lives hahaha



the man in question is a rapist and murderer of a 14 yr old girl. if this happened in the US he would be executed by now. india has to adpot a middle-east approach to rapists so that they won't repeat it..

[Mayavi Morpheus]

I think the FH mods should also adopt similar approach

and whats with you sig? changed it 3 times in last 5 min... poor No, Bah, dee... you have brutalised them in all possible ways.

[dumpster]

I think the FH mods should also adopt similar approach
and whats with you sig? changed it 3 times in last 5 min... poor No, Bah, dee... you have brutalised them in all possible ways.

hahaha you are really funny morpheus



no i did not brutalize them. i flicked cad's sig and modified it thats all hehehe

[azazel]

hehehe... you are asking for too much from archana dahling a.k.a Oyes

:lol: (s)he just wont giveup! now (s)he is presenting his/her crude side here....

sure looks like it.. crude? its more like childish with the comments n the sig with digs at MM n Question.. tch tch

[azazel]

looks like the final word is here:



http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/aug/10kolkata.htm

[Red Combat]

BTW, for those who are interested in various methods of death penalty around the world.



http://library.thinkquest.org/23685/data/toolsvec.html

[Mayavi Morpheus]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/810074.cms



The man:







The motive behind the rape.

The news, broken first by inspector-general (prisons) Jaydeb Chakraborty at Writers' Buildings, appears to have brought the curtains down on a protracted battle — sometimes in court and sometimes inside Rashtrapati Bhavan — to save the security guard who wreaked a perverse revenge on schoolgoer Hetal Parekh for complaining to her father against his lewd passes. The revenge he took was unlike most other brutal-as-theycome rape-and-kill cases; he first raped her, then strangled her and then raped her again — after she had died. This was on March 5, 1990.

I think he should be hanged twice

[akhilis2cool]

I second that

[Lucifer]

'First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said nothing.
Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat, so I did nothing.
Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist.
And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did little.
Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me.'

Read that in Class 12. Loved it thoroughly. Thanks Marko for refreshing memory...

[marko]

shdnt this thread b in the problems....section
any way...good that guys mercy petition was rejected......but then theyr going to appeal agn in the SC....lets hope the SC uphoalds the presidents decision

no it shouldn't

dekho bhaai...u r against punishment to innocents....he is not innocent.

hey, haven't looked here in a while, missed this.

You misunderstood man, I wasn't saying what i think

should be done in this case, i was saying that this thread

shouldn't belong in the problems section

(or at least that it's not out of place here,

according to the description of the board)

It was unclear from the bit i quoted which i

was responding to, sorry.



On a final note, i won't weep any tears for the

death of this guy, from what i've read he deserves

to be killed 10 times over, as does any rapist killer.

I don't see this as inconsistant with my argument however.

you guys probably will.



I won't be tricked into defending serial killers/rapists

just cos I oppose the death penalty, just as I won't be tricked into supporting terrorism just cos i oppose aggressive imperialism.