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by HitchHiker » Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:12 am

Recently finished couple of Dan Brown books - 'Da Vinci Code' & 'Angels & Demons'. Both the books seemed to filled up with messages hidden in Ancient Architecture, Paintings and a lot of secret brotherhoods existing. try http://www.danbrown.com



For example, Illuminati - a secret brotherhood of cool guys wanting to protect Science from the Church... or Priory of Sion - a society entrusuted with task of carrying on secretly the legacy that Jesus was just another normal guy & was married ... as opposed to what the Church would have us believe. or same is conveyed in lot of da vinci's paintings



It got me wondering, whether our Indian Culture & Religions are also filled with such concepts of Secret Brotherhoods, or ancient architectures and paintings actually conveying a cryptic message.



What do you all think :?: :!:
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by rabbithole » Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:57 am

i think it took a long time for u to post here :D ..welcome!



on topic: i have no clue 8) 8) ....its an interestin topic tho....lets c wat others know
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by HitchHiker » Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:33 am

thanks for the welcome buddy .. guess was out in the galaxy for a long time .. but this site is one kewl one .. makes u come back 8)



on the topic .. i had read a mail going long back abt the Taj Mahal actually being a temple .. or some thing of tht sort ... i not sure if that counts as hidden symbols and messages in architecture .. lets hope somebody in the circle can enlighten us more
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by rock_26iin » Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:05 pm

HitchHiker wrote:on the topic .. i had read a mail going long back abt the Taj Mahal actually being a temple .. or some thing of tht sort ... i not sure if that counts as hidden symbols and messages in architecture




I've heard that one too. It is believed that waaay below the tombs is a sealed room where the Shivling is actually kept. :shock: :?
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:09 pm

rock_26iin wrote:
HitchHiker wrote:on the topic .. i had read a mail going long back abt the Taj Mahal actually being a temple .. or some thing of tht sort ... i not sure if that counts as hidden symbols and messages in architecture


I've heard that one too. It is believed that waaay below the tombs is a sealed room where the Shivling is actually kept. :shock: :?




Nice excuse to dig it up after 10 - 20years.
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by CtrlAltDel » Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:10 pm

rock_26iin wrote:I've heard that one too. It is believed that waaay below the tombs is a sealed room where the Shivling is actually kept. :shock: :?
if that was true, why did shah jahan bother to preserve the old temple....he cud have had it demolished completely isnt it?



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by rock_26iin » Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:10 pm

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
rock_26iin wrote:
HitchHiker wrote:on the topic .. i had read a mail going long back abt the Taj Mahal actually being a temple .. or some thing of tht sort ... i not sure if that counts as hidden symbols and messages in architecture


I've heard that one too. It is believed that waaay below the tombs is a sealed room where the Shivling is actually kept. :shock: :?


Nice excuse to dig it up after 10 - 20years.




believe it...



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by rock_26iin » Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:23 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:if that was true, why did shah jahan bother to preserve the old temple....he cud have had it demolished completely isnt it?




good question. u shud ask Shah Jahan abt it. ;)
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by HitchHiker » Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:33 pm

i found this link abt taj mahal



http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/tejo.html



do any other similar things come to mind
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by azazel » Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:50 pm

the FH moderator union.. the secret society behind the maintenance of integrity/decency on the boards..
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by CtrlAltDel » Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:28 pm

HitchHiker wrote:i found this link abt taj mahal

http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/tejo.html

do any other similar things come to mind
if the site was right, why didnt the RSS/VHP make an issue of it in the last 6 yrs?
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by HitchHiker » Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:00 pm

if the site was right, why didnt the RSS/VHP make an issue of it in the last 6 yrs?


Mayawati tried something very simple involving Taj Mahal ... and was ousted of power.

RSS has had lot of similar issues .... like the krishna-janam bhoomi in mathura ... but all of them have been on the back burner during the 6 years BJP was in power

i dont think any party or group can even talk abt doing a Ayodhya or anything remotely similar to a national heritage like Taj Mahal esp after mayawati fiasco
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by Fiddler » Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:26 pm

HitchHiker wrote:guess was out in the galaxy for a long time




Guess the restaurant at the end of the universe had you wondering about life, the universe and everything for a long while and then, after it was 'so long, and thanks for all the fish', you discovered that Earth was mostly harmless, so decided to come back, eh? Well, welcome back, Dirk Gently ;)
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by HitchHiker » Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:43 pm

Guess the restaurant at the end of the universe had you wondering about life, the universe and everything for a long while and then, after it was 'so long, and thanks for all the fish', you discovered that Earth was mostly harmless, so decided to come back, eh? Well, welcome back, Dirk Gently


:lol: :D .. you guessed right .. actually i was on the Starship Titanic with Zaphod having Long Dark Tea Time of the Soul when DeepThought told me that Deeper meaning of Life is a Trilogy in Four Parts, and asked to return while i was on this side of 42 :twisted:
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by Habitual Perfectionist » Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:31 pm

Welcome aboard Hitchhiker.



On the subject of myths like the Tajmahal one, I've heard some people claim that the black stone at the Kaba (sp?) in Mecca is actually a Shivling (Some interpretations going as far as the stone being the 13th Jyotirling). I mean even if what they say is true....fine...go ahead...take it as a Shivling and worship it. But don't deny others the right to revere it in the way they want to. Wait....Stop....Why am I pontificating like this? As CAD rightly put it, in RSS waalon ko aur kuch kaam dhandha nahi hai.



On topic :

From what I gathered from the starting post for this thread, the hiker's talking about groups that have formed to preserve some legacy. And given our culture, we're a very open country. There's nothing really secret here. Groups wanting to protect anything can do it openly. Even if what they are protecting is a farce. That explains why we have a VHP, an RSS, a SIMI, a Lashkar-e-Taiyyaba, a Jaish-e-Muhammad, an ULFA, open support to LTTE thrown in our face.
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by Habitual Perfectionist » Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:45 pm

As for secret societies (not because they want to be secret, but because they aren't innovative enough to come out in the open - that was the marketing professional in me speaking. Apologies), here's something that you'd want to see...but hate seeing it equally.



http://www.swordoftruth.com
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by Alexis » Wed Jul 07, 2004 10:52 pm

Welcome aboard, Hitchhiker! You'll have a great time on this board and soon enough you'll be addicted.......just like any of the regulars here. Me included. :)



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Oh, and I would have posted something relevant to the topic of this thread, but I really havent heard or read about secret societies and brotherhoods in India.
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by CtrlAltDel » Thu Jul 08, 2004 12:45 am

Alexis wrote:Oh, and I would have posted something relevant to the topic of this thread, but I really havent heard or read about secret societies and brotherhoods in India.
:) u can write abt yr experiences with KKK or something like that in USA
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by Alexis » Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:40 am

Thankfully Ive never encountered any KKK members. Theyre scary and dangerous looking.

Sure I see gangsters. But theyre not a scret society.
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by Hitchhiker » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:20 am

thanks for all the welcomes !! esp. HP & Alexis .. looks like i am already getting addicted :) .

On the topic, i have kinda started agreeing with the perfectionist abt our culture being open enough for not having such brotherhoods ... but what is strange is all the other cultures from egyptian to japanese has there share of such brotherhoods ..

& Alexis - speaking of the US, did you ever notice that the great seal of US which is on the back of Dollar Bills is a pyramid with the all seeing eye on the top and Latin reference to 'New Secular Order'. A pyramid would be a totally unAmerican symbol to put on the Dollar.

It is believed that the Seal is actually the Symbol of Illuminati and the Brotherhood of Illuminati had been in the Upper echelons of Power, in US. :shock:

By the way, if any body saw first Tomb-Raider : the one with sexy Angelina Jolie , you would remember the reference to Illuminati as the group trying to find the Pyramid-ish triangle which can control time :!:
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by rabbithole » Thu Jul 08, 2004 9:22 am

jeez! looks like you did a lot of homework on this subject bud

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by CtrlAltDel » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:25 am

i heard abt most american symbols n official building plans confirming to Free Masonic emblems....and that US is controlled by powerful Free Masons...
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by Hitchhiker » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:39 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:i heard abt most american symbols n official building plans confirming to Free Masonic emblems....and that US is controlled by powerful Free Masons...
That is actually true ... the only twist being that Illuminati had infiltrated the ranks of Masons during the early times of US Govt being formed.. after they had been kinda black listed in Europe. What is interesting to note is that there are a few Free Masonic lodges existing in India too .. read it in TOI
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by Alexis » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:42 am

Hitchhiker, when you mentioned the 'all-seeing eye', I remembered that its a symbol for Masons. Also the Anti-Christ, AKA, the Dajjal.
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by CtrlAltDel » Thu Jul 08, 2004 11:42 am

Hitchhiker wrote:...Illuminati had infiltrated the ranks of Masons during the early times of US Govt being formed.. after they had been kinda black listed in Europe.
thats interesting. Illuminati actually exists? i'll google for moe info later...
Hitchhiker wrote:...What is interesting to note is that there are a few Free Masonic lodges existing in India too...
they are like a club here, like Lions club etc. but they maintain lots of secrecy. not much is known abt their activities. i heard lots of top bureaucrats, politicians n industrialists are Free Masons...

maybe they are upto something....
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