Define a "good" movie

by **Jaszalcatraz** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 6:52 pm

I wanted to know what people think is the most important factor to make a "good" film.

Is it believability of the character?

Is it the narrative of the story?

Is it the authenticity of the situation?

Is it the the clarity of the moral?

Is it the ability of actor?

Or is it a combination of a couple or more of the above. Or is your definition something that I havent mentioned or something totally radical.

Then there are people who want to see movies since it gives them 2.5 hours of relaxation. In such cases, what kind of film will you say relaxes you the most?

Is it the soothing music?

Is it the stunning and unrealistic song location visuals?

by **Lucifer** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:11 pm

Two things:

1) I am paying to watch a film - I want paisa vasool

2) Someone else is footing the bill - I want stuff like Cassablanca

by **Jaszalcatraz** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 7:22 pm

Well for Lucifer's sake......lemme rephrase........define paisa vasool.

How will your paise be vasool?

by **Stingrae** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:36 pm

Jaszalcatraz wrote:I wanted to know what people think is the most important factor to make a "good" film.
Is it believability of the character?
Is it the narrative of the story?
Is it the authenticity of the situation?
Is it the the clarity of the moral?
Is it the ability of actor?
Or is it a combination of a couple or more of the above. Or is your definition something that I havent mentioned or something totally radical.

Then there are people who want to see movies since it gives them 2.5 hours of relaxation. In such cases, what kind of film will you say relaxes you the most?
Is it the soothing music?
Is it the stunning and unrealistic song location visuals?

I want, I crave for involvement in a movie.

I ain't d sort who goes to a theatre to watch movies,I'm better off watchin 'em at home. Either ways, a good movie would take my mind places. The points highlighted above are my choices in order...surely "ability of actors" is not up there coz Hyderabadi Blues though woefully inadept in terms of acting skills was dam good jus cuz of d honesty of d movie...

the background score is dam important....

authenticity haaarrdddly matters...come on mayte we're goin to see a movie not National Geographic.....plus there's always somethin called "creative licence"...

jus my 0.02$.... :mrgreen:

by **azazel** » Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:15 am

baba.. u cant generalise a good movie in 6 easy steps..

different ppl have different choices which make a film paisa vasool for 'em

if ur talkin me, i'd say a perfect movie has to have all of the qualities u listed there.. but there are exceptions..

by **Jaszalcatraz** » Sat Jun 05, 2004 1:19 am

Thats exactly what I want to know...........what are the other "virtues" that make movies paisa vasool and i what are the exceptions ur talking about?

by **akhilis2cool** » Sat Jun 05, 2004 10:16 am

Jasz i think u wold have to do a PHd to know whts a perfect paisa vasool movie....

yet there cannot be a standard formula......

hmmm....kabhi phursat mein baithe to discuss karne ki baat hai yeh

by **Jaszalcatraz** » Sat Jun 05, 2004 3:42 pm

You got me wrong Akhil......I wanted to know what is YOUR defination of paisa vasool.....a "perfect" paisa vasool film is utopian thinking. I dont want ideas on what a movie paisa vasool....i wanna know what YOU would want to see to call a movie paisa vasool. Thin line of difference.

by **akhilis2cool** » Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:13 pm

some thing like munna bhai MBBS.....basically comic but the quality of direction dialogues shld be good.

by **Cowboy** » Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:53 pm

Jaszalcatraz wrote:I wanted to know what people think is the most important factor to make a "good" film.

Jaszalcatraz wrote:Is it believability of the character?

No way. I liked "Bill and Ted's excellent adventures". Can't say it's the believability of the character.

Jaszalcatraz wrote:Is it the authenticity of the situation?

Same as the above. Won't mind unauthenticated situations. But, authentic and real stories are very gripping.

Jaszalcatraz wrote:Is it the the clarity of the moral?

That's something I care the least about.

Jaszalcatraz wrote:Is it the ability of actor?

Now, here comes the important part. There are very few actors who can drag a movie to full length with just their passionate acting. For example, Scent of a Woman. Narration isn't good but, boy oh boy, Al Pacino :shock:

Or is it a combination of a couple or more of the above. Or is your definition something that I havent mentioned or something totally radical.

Then there are people who want to see movies since it gives them 2.5 hours of relaxation. In such cases, what kind of film will you say relaxes you the most?
Is it the soothing music?
Is it the stunning and unrealistic song location visuals?

Like someone already pointed out, I'm paying 25 bucks for 2.5 hours. I want something in return for the money pay.

On a lighter note, "good movie" - "lots of hot chicks, preferably naked"

by **Major TP** » Sun Jun 06, 2004 2:10 am

Here's my list of have-to-be-theres in a movie :

Well its not exactly authenticity... its knida believability which is a combination of two factors : the Complexity of the character and the emoting skills of the actor. The former being more important. The more complex the character the more engrossing it is also you dont have the chance to consider the authenticity of the character.besides nothings more fake than unidimensional charchters.

Complexity of the story: Very important. It could be absolute fiction and fantasy but if i'm looking around at how the fellow audiences are passing time then definately the movie's lost me.

Execution: Doesnt matter how good the the concept or moral is... how free flowing the movies is , is definately important. If the movies doesnt flow naturally and make me feel like i'm leading the story rather it leading me or actually ur not sure whos leading who then its definately an awesome movie.Example Yuva had such a great concept going on with a messege n all but there was definately something tachy abt the way the idea was executed.

Eventually the movies has to have some surprises, some twists and cuts... otherwise i'd rather just sit thru a board meeting and it'd be the same thing.

song and dance sequences kill me... but there are some like Dil Chahta Hai that made me feel like getting up and getting jiggy with it right there at the theatre.

ok mebbe this is not a list ... more like a description ,however vague, of what i expect in a movie...donno why i'm getting the feeling i'm missing something out :roll:

by **Jaszalcatraz** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:01 am

Bump back to life

by **azazel** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 8:23 pm

*applauds jasz for bringing thread back to life*

something tht wouldnt make a 'good' movie :

Orlando Bloom [was he more beautiful than Helen in the movie??]

senti scenes

bad soundtrack

by **CtrlAltDel** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 9:29 pm

azazel wrote:Orlando Bloom [was he more beautiful than Helen in the movie??]

he must be Hollywood's answer to Shahrukh Khan. Recently Ridley Scott who is making en epic "Kingdom of Heaven" ordered Bloom to cover his chikna chest with a "chest wig" in order to appear hairy chested n manly in the movie... :lol:

by **wildhydgirl** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 12:03 am

a good movie is abt having fun while watching it....there are times wen pathetic movies can turn out be good if u watch it in the rite manner...cmon guys u dont go to the theatre n ponder over the comlexity of the character or the story... all u want is soemthing to take ur mind away from ur tensions...n the movie which does it is a gr8 movie

by **black wizard** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:09 am

wildhydgirl wrote:a good movie is abt having fun while watching it....there are times wen pathetic movies can turn out be good if u watch it in the rite manner...cmon guys u dont go to the theatre n ponder over the comlexity of the character or the story... all u want is soemthing to take ur mind away from ur tensions...n the movie which does it is a gr8 movie

yeah...ok. :roll:

by **Jaszalcatraz** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 4:00 am

wildhydgirl wrote:cmon guys u dont go to the theatre n ponder over the comlexity of the character or the story

Ya damn right I do.

by **CtrlAltDel** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:41 am

Jaszalcatraz wrote:
wildhydgirl wrote:cmon guys u dont go to the theatre n ponder over the comlexity of the character or the story

Ya damn right I do.

if u can sort out the finance part, y dont u plan making a movie on yr own? i am sure u must be having good new ideas n subjects.

by **azazel** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:53 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote: if u can sort out the finance part, y dont u plan making a movie on yr own? i am sure u must be having good new ideas n subjects.

all we need is ur money.. :twisted:

, kab aana finance ke liye :?:

Jasz, this is ur chance to make it big man.. such enthusiasm to finance a movie made by U .. dun let it go.. :twisted:

btw, Hollywood's answer to SRK by popular consent is Ben Affleck

by **CtrlAltDel** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:02 am

azazel wrote:all we need is ur money.. , kab aana finance ke liye

:shock: if i had the dough, i'll make a Mithun movie and play the lucky villain too... :twisted:

azazel wrote:Hollywood's answer to SRK by popular consent is Ben Affleck

aaah...that irritating p***k... :evil:

no wonder i never liked him....

by **vinc** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:09 am

IMHO The movie :-

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Must have a Good Moral.

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Must not have semi-porn or embarrassing scenes.

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Must not have too much violence.

by **azazel** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:35 pm

vinc wrote:IMHO The movie :-
Must have a Good Moral.
Must not have semi-porn or embarrassing scenes.
Must not have too much violence.

dude, tht doesnt necessarily mean any movie having ne of the above isnt a good movie.. :roll:

by **CtrlAltDel** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:59 pm

vinc wrote: Must have a Good Moral.

well almost all movies have the "GOOD" succeeding in the end...thats enuf moral

vinc wrote: Must not have semi-porn or embarrassing scenes.

how do u define embarrassing...? some are embarrassed by sex, some by mere hugs or kisses, some by just the concept of having a lover :roll:

vinc wrote: Must not have too much violence.

similarly, what do u mean by Too Much...???

i can show u 100s or movies with all 3 ingredients u specified, that can be classified as the worst in world cinema.

by **vinc** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:22 pm

so, i guess the limits of the above points are different for different individuals.

by **CtrlAltDel** » Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:28 pm

vinc wrote:so, i guess the limits of the above points are different for different individuals.

u r a good guesser yaar!

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