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surnames/caste names: should be removed

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Name and Caste

by ZC » Wed May 26, 2004 9:34 am

I think surnames shud be removed........they directly reflect the caste........



shud follow tamil estyl......Last name=father's name......or if u want, mother's name....coz mother is the truth......father is an accepted truth.......whatever....



govt. talks of equality......y not start here.......
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(Sur)Names!

by Happy Hyderabadi » Wed May 26, 2004 10:00 am

(Sur)Names!
Thinking Has To Change ... (Sur)Names Drop: No Help!
Till A Few Days Ago: The Following Ruled Here:
B C - Babu's Candidate, S C - Same Caste, S T - Same Taste! ... Now B has been replaced by R ... PARKALAM! Not APJ Kalam!




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Re: Name and Caste

by CtrlAltDel » Wed May 26, 2004 12:52 pm

a good idea!

ZC wrote:shud follow tamil estyl...Last name=father's name...


well, i follow this name format and seen endless delays n confusion among everybody right from my school days. coz of this format, my dad's initials are different from mine and this was not accepted in my primary school in hydbad...for a few days the teachers scolded me and forcibly changed my dad's initials in the record :roll:, untill my dad came and cleared the confusion :D

even at the passport office i had to talk a lot, to explain this 'strange' naming format.

another thing in this format is that traditionally (as in mine) the dad's name comes before my name, as an initial. so many northies and videshis think my name is my surname and call me by my dad's name. sometimes i feel i need to carry a placard, or hand out cards, displaying my name format :(



at least my son wont face this confusion: in his birth cert. i've appended my name after his name - northie/videshi style - so that people will know whats his actual name and whats his 'surname' (ie my name)



Abolishing surnames altogether will be a great idea...follow Parsi style and call everybody by their vocation:

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by azazel » Wed May 26, 2004 1:26 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:ZC BallsnRodswalla...HH Retiredwalla... :lol:




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by akhilis2cool » Wed May 26, 2004 4:24 pm

azazelspamwala :twisted: :wink: :D kya miyna bahit din gaayab the board pe????
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by ZC » Wed May 26, 2004 4:29 pm

ooooouuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhoooooooooooo



people want to continue with names indicating their caste.......



i can only laugh when Indians talk of racism in foreign countries :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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by azazel » Wed May 26, 2004 7:40 pm

ZC wrote:people want to continue with names indicating their caste.......




who said that??



Akhil bhai -- > not funny .. :evil:

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by ZC » Thu May 27, 2004 6:39 am

azazel wrote:who said that??





the poll dude, the poll...........doesnt the surnames.........dixit, tripati, saxena, sen, bachan, bose, oberoi etc ....indicate the caste......



even telugu family names indicate the caste :roll:
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by Adonis » Thu May 27, 2004 7:12 am

remove surnames and cast names??.. thats never gonna happen !!..



who's gonna enforce it ?



people just have to realize that caste system has no place in todays world !!
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by ZC » Thu May 27, 2004 7:16 am

Adonis wrote:remove surnames and cast names??.. thats never gonna happen !!..

who's gonna enforce it ?

people just have to realize that caste system has no place in todays world !!




u and me.......... :D



i am actually surprised...people say YES...and i see more votes for NO :roll:
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by akhilis2cool » Thu May 27, 2004 9:44 am

whats the point in removing the surnames?? thats one way we identify people.....it is sad that people are devide in castes....that shld stop
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by CtrlAltDel » Thu May 27, 2004 9:44 am

FYI, i just voted a YES :D
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by ZC » Thu May 27, 2004 9:46 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:FYI, i just voted a YES :D




i know i know...the initiall tally was 1 for and 3 against :roll: :roll: :roll:



akhil: true: thats one way of identifying people: identifying their caste from the name....racism from the day u meet him/her and ask his/her name :roll: :roll: :roll:
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by akhilis2cool » Thu May 27, 2004 9:49 am

ZC wrote:akhil: true: thats one way of identifying people: identifying their caste from the name....racism from the day u meet him/her and ask his/her name :roll: :roll: :roll:




theres nothing wrong in knowing which god some one worships as long as u dont develop hatred against evryone other than people of ur castes.....
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by ZC » Thu May 27, 2004 10:03 am

akhilis2cool wrote:
theres nothing wrong in knowing which god some one worships as long as u dont develop hatred against evryone other than people of ur castes.....




how is god related to caste :roll: :roll: :roll: :shock: :shock: :shock:



i am tal-king of Hindus only dude :roll: :roll:
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by azazel » Thu May 27, 2004 11:45 am

im not sure abt how names convey the caste coz we dun have that sys. but its useless, dunya think?? casteism is just as bad as racism or another form of it for that matter..



n Akhil dude.. arent names not enuff for u to ID someone??? :roll:
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by ZC » Thu May 27, 2004 12:15 pm

azazel wrote:im not sure abt how names convey the caste coz we dun have that sys.




tum abhi bacha ho........



in AP certain castes print books with all surnames of their caste and distribute :roll: :roll: :roll:



sometimes there will be overlap....they they will clarify based on the circle the people they move in...or askin directly :roll: :roll:
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by azazel » Thu May 27, 2004 9:15 pm

ZC wrote:tum abhi bacha ho........


yes, i am :P

in AP certain castes print books with all surnames of their caste and




bad.. :roll:
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by LP » Thu May 27, 2004 10:14 pm

Good thread.But its just impossible.If possible,it will take some time.As someone earlier said people have to realize. :D Some people argue that this will only happen if people are educated,but WTH educated people support this system as you can see the votes in the poll
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by ZC » Fri May 28, 2004 7:35 am

i think it shud start with self.........



and start at the minority-castes and ask them for implement.....coz the forward caste anyway wont accept to this idea :roll: :roll:



some may say yes on these boards, i seriously dought the forward caste people :D
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by Adonis » Fri May 28, 2004 8:13 am

may be we can start by taking the damn reservation's out !...



one reason is, classifying some ppl as backward cast is still discriminating.



the reservation did its job ...it gave a jump start for many BC people...and now they have a chance to work hard to get their seats and jobs .
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by ZC » Fri May 28, 2004 8:37 am

Adonis wrote:may be we can start by taking the damn reservation's out !... ....




let them enjoy the benefits of their fore-fathers slavery :D



and the bad-treatment of the fellow caste people in villages :D
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by CtrlAltDel » Fri May 28, 2004 9:06 am

ZC wrote:let them enjoy the benefits of their fore-fathers slavery :D
...the 50 yr start is enuf. even Ambedkar wanted reservations for a short duration. now even the well to do and rich SCs/STs are enjoying reservation at the expense of economically backward FCs.
ZC wrote:and the bad-treatment of the fellow caste people in villages :D
that will never disappear thru reservations. only education can eradicate it. in fact reservations can fuel resentment in disadvantaged FCs.



its time for reservations based on financial status...the poor shud use it to come up, whatever caste they belong to.
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by ZC » Fri May 28, 2004 9:24 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:
ZC wrote:let them enjoy the benefits of their fore-fathers slavery :D
...the 50 yr start is enuf. even Ambedkar wanted reservations for a short duration. now even the well to do and rich SCs/STs are enjoying reservation at the expense of economically backward FCs.
ZC wrote:and the bad-treatment of the fellow caste people in villages :D
that will never disappear thru reservations. only education can eradicate it. in fact reservations can fuel resentment in disadvantaged FCs.

its time for reservations based on financial status...the poor shud use it to come up, whatever caste they belong to.




aap complain kar sak-the hain.....kuch nahin kar sak-the, kya kiya jaaye :D



kuch nahin ho-ga :D
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by akhilis2cool » Fri May 28, 2004 10:30 am

azazel wrote:im not sure abt how names convey the caste coz we dun have that sys. but its useless, dunya think?? casteism is just as bad as racism or another form of it for that matter..

n Akhil dude.. arent names not enuff for u to ID someone??? :roll:


in our classroom there were around 5 sachins....when ever our lecturer called out that name all of them stood up....so he had to use the surname...thats why it is useful
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