Sonia a victim of Racism

[Peeping tom]

Sonia must definitely be a victim of Racism.

The whole Indian people have voted.

Why these Empty Selfish ladies like Uma Bharathi and Sushma unnesessarily try to gain cheap publicity.

[Happy Hyderabadi]

... Empty Selfish ladies like Uma Bharathi and Sushma ...

The Two Ladies have Shown Irrational & Irresponsible Behaviour - Giving Up Post and Threatening to Shave Head. Gents like Govindacharya threatend Agitation, which brings no glory to them. Sushma should have shaved head when she lost to Sonia from Bellary earlier ... But why rake up the past, the present being so special!

[akhilis2cool]

Sonia must definitely be a victim of Racism.
The whole Indian people have voted.

congres has only 143 out of 540 seats? wht whole people r u talking abt???? and if they voted for her why is she refusing to lead them????

Why these Empty Selfish ladies like Uma Bharathi and Sushma unnesessarily try to gain cheap publicity.

that was stupid on there part.....Uma bharathi sent her resignation to Venkiah Naidu ...instead of the MP governor

[Imran]

I agree wid O'll u peepz out there " Sonia a victim of Racism" ... but , frm my side i completly supports the decision of sonia of denying the post she has done a gud job by rejecting it, and suggesting Manmohan Singh.. "Right man fr the right Job"

[akhilis2cool]

"Right man fr the right Job"

right bakra for the right job

[BM]

I agree wid O'll u peepz out there " Sonia a victim of Racism" ... but , frm my side i completly supports the decision of sonia of denying the post she has done a gud job by rejecting it, and suggesting Manmohan Singh.. "Right man fr the right Job"

Ya agreed with Imran.



"Right man for the right Job"

[CtrlAltDel]

Racism, Vaysism kuch nahin....just Nationalism...

there is no mandate for sonia...its just a mandate against NDA.

the major allies like the commies, SP n BSP were largely the opponents of congress in the election, where ever they were strong. remember the ppl who voted commies or SP voted against the congress too.

in tamilnadu, people hated jaya n voted dmk as was expected and in AP its clear it was an anti TDP vote. in the next elections in these two states everything wud reverse, as it has always happned.

if the commies cared for their voters' sentiments they wudn't support congress, ie Sonia. anyway the commie a*s*holes love anything non-indian...like their love of China n the ex-USSR.



there is more than what meets the eye behind sonia's renunciation drama. why did she suddenly decide so after meeting Kalam? what did Kalam tell her?

she is just playing for sympathy and time. she will be back soon citing reasons like "call of duty" etc.



anyway, which western country allows such a situation? even the citizens are too educated to vote for such foreign born people.

why does India have to be the grinning idiot in order to gain some pats in the back from western racists?

[Buzurg]

Peeping Tom wrote:

Sonia must definitely be a victim of Racism.
The whole Indian people have voted.
Why these Empty Selfish ladies like Uma Bharathi and Sushma unnesessarily try to gain cheap publicity.

How on this good earth did this become a racism issue !? As CtrlAltDel said it's clearly an issue of 'Nationalism'. Let us not cry wolf too often lest the politicians make it an issue for their benefit as the then ousted party, Congress did during the 80's in Hyderabad and hundreds perished from all communities.



I am still trying to understand, Peeping Tom, what could have made you think Sonia Gandhi's issue is about race? Do you belong to one of the minority groups? I also see that BM and Imran belong to a minority as I do too but they seem to be agreeing with you, though, unlike me.



If we, the Indians believe in racism, Kalaam Sahab would not have been the President and Dr. Manmohan Singh would not have been the Prime Minister, both incidentally are from minority groups. Which country, either a Muslim or a Christian country, has elected as their leader a person from a minority group ?



I consider myself Indian first as we all should. We are 'Indians'. Any other issue makes us divided, and it will be misconstrued as weakness. Remember, no politician is a saint nor is he/she in the politics to 'serve' the country. Its all for their own personal benefit along with the power that they enjoy. If, in the process, it happen to be of some benefit to the country, we should consider ourselfs lucky.



Bete, do not let them divide you and seize it as a chance enough to make this into a real issue. Buzurg hun, mere bachhe. Duniya dekhi hai humne. Mere baath ko dhyan mein rakhna, bete.

[azazel]

Remember, no politician is a saint nor is he/she in the politics to 'serve' the country. Its all for their own personal benefit along with the power that they enjoy.

that makes us bigger idiots than we are already, doesnt it

we, as a nation have failed miserably to find progressive leadership

one day a real rain will come n wash all this scum from the country..



as far as Sonia Gandhi giving-up the post of PM goes, she just saved herself from becoming a liability for the Congress govt. n in the process got herself more mileage than she could've hoped for.. n the BJP after makin such a hue n cry of what they'd do if she indeed became the PM, have but shot themselves in the foot..

[CtrlAltDel]

How on this good earth did this become a racism issue !? As CtrlAltDel said it's clearly an issue of 'Nationalism'. Let us not cry wolf too often lest the politicians make it an issue for their benefit as the then ousted party, Congress did during the 80's in Hyderabad and hundreds perished from all communities.

thanQ, Buzurg-ji for supporting me with a well written piece.

...Do you belong to one of the minority groups? I also see that BM and Imran belong to a minority as I do too but they seem to be agreeing with you, though, unlike me.

i dont think being minority is an issue here coz i know many hindus who support sonia's candidature. Its just a case of mis-placed large heartedness. It cud also be a desire to earn pats from people abroad for this large-heartedness. as far as my knowledge gos no country in this world allows people like sonia to become PMs - after just abt 20 yrs of citizenship. heck, even our constitution disallows citizen below 25 yrs from contesting MP elections (which is why Varun Gandhi cudn't contest this time). all this is bcoz of her f***ing surname....

Which country, either a Muslim or a Christian country, has elected as their leader a person from a minority group ?

nobody wud answer this, but instead ask back "Why do we be like others? we follow the Great Indian Culture". a load of bull.

...Remember, no politician is a saint nor is he/she in the politics to 'serve' the country. Its all for their own personal benefit along with the power that they enjoy.

sad but true. my opposition to sonia is not to mean that i am a BJP supporter. i voted BJP only coz of vajpayee and the booming economy (that it failed to reach large part of the masses is another sad story, but it does not mean the economic policies were wrong). i lost all regard for BJP after Gujarat.

[Monica]

Uma Bharathi and Sushma unnesessarily did not try to gain cheap publicity. Its the congress people played the cheap tricks to gain the sympathy from all the people who voted them. Open ur atlest now.

[Lewinsky]

:lol: Uma Bharathi and Sushma unnesessarily did not try to gain cheap publicity. Its the congress people played the cheap tricks to gain the sympathy from all the people who voted them. Open ur atlest now.

did u register to say just this

[Bill Clinton]

hello baybay.. *assume the position n get down on yer knees*

[Hillary.C]

hello baybay.. *assume the position n get down on yer knees*

*borrows meat chopper from Lorena Bobbit*

[Peeping tom]

I am still trying to understand, Peeping Tom, what could have made you think Sonia Gandhi's issue is about race? Do you belong to one of the minority groups?

Hi Mr Buz,

I am a Hindu. Described as Brahmin in official records.

I suffered infact, battered by the Reservation policies.Well Its ok.



Now coming to the point, As the years passed, I was deeply wounded seeing the incidents of worst Racism still existing in Hindu religeon. I think in the whole world Hindu religeon is the only religeon which officially authorize 'Racism' (RULES OF MANU)



I have seen in my south indian villages, Muslims dont follow or throw racism against black colored people.



Bajrang dal,RSS, and Shivsena are Racially tainted organisations.



Let them not racism then let we see.



Bi

[ZC]

I am still trying to understand, Peeping Tom, what could have made you think Sonia Gandhi's issue is about race? Do you belong to one of the minority groups?

Hi Mr Buz,
I am a Hindu. Described as Brahmin in official records.
I suffered infact, battered by the Reservation policies.Well Its ok.

Now coming to the point, As the years passed, I was deeply wounded seeing the incidents of worst Racism still existing in Hindu religeon. I think in the whole world Hindu religeon is the only religeon which officially authorize 'Racism' (RULES OF MANU)

I have seen in my south indian villages, Muslims dont follow or throw racism against black colored people.

Bajrang dal,RSS, and Shivsena are Racially tainted organisations.

Let them not racism then let we see.

Bi

is this the same PT who once called me "ZC-u cannot be an Indian" coz i said "Indians(read Hindus) are the most racist in the world".........



btw PT, u belong to the class of elite people who created the disparities.......untouchability etc......have fun and enjoy now.....

[CtrlAltDel]

before calling indians or hindus racists lets see how many countries have members of minority communities as heads of state or government.



in the islamic gulf, forget letting them rule, the arabs treat 'brownskins' like dirt while licking the arse of whites.



in the christian west subtle racism abounds with regard to non-whites.



all know status of blacks n browns in white countries.



in hindu majority india we've got minority president as well as PM...and who are highly respected by hindus.



gujarat happened. see what happened to the perpetrators in gujarat itself.



if hindus were racists anybody other than hindus wud be second class citizens...just like most other countries treat their minorities (either subtly like in west or openly like in the gulf)



...and who follows Manu's Laws anymore...? flexible hinduism: changes with times.



racism anyone?

[Habitual Perfectionist]

Manu's rules are actually an individual's interpretation of our scriptures. And every scripture has umpteen interpretations, each of which is different. The school of spiritualism that I follow, describes the four varnas thus :



Shudra : One who is still immersed in maya and has no other meaning to life except for personal pleasures that don't improve the self.



Vaishya : One who is involved in creative pursuits to enhance his intellect as well as contribute positively to society.



Kshatriya : One who is battling his senses to attain a higher spiritual level.



Brahmin : One who is truly aware of the his self and the supreme being.



This even fits well with our religious ethos that a person's varna is not by birth but by his karma.



So please don't deride a religion just because its perpetrators are spreading a distorted version of its teachings. And by the way, the religion in question is not Hinduism but Sanatana Dharma or the Vedic religion.

[ZC]

in hindu majority india we've got minority president as well as PM...and who are highly respected by hindus.

the diff between u and me is ........tum..kursi pe kaun bete hain ..woh dekh the hon........mein kursi ko dekh tha hoon..........





for an example: tum krusi pe Naidu ko dekha.......mein kursi ka toota hua tang dekha kursi damal aur Naidu bhi damaal



dikaave pe naa jaav apni akal lagaav



i am not comparing Hinduism with other religions...i am comparing Hinduiusm---different sections within.........



before Hindus complain abt racism elsewhere.......they shud stop racism within..........

[CtrlAltDel]

i am not comparing Hinduism with other religions...i am comparing Hinduiusm---different sections within.........
before Hindus complain abt racism elsewhere.......they shud stop racism within..........

yes that i agree...but we shud remember that education and materialism are the tools to wipe out casteism. look in the cities. who cares about caste of the co-worker or waiter in a hotel or yr co-passenger...? give everyone education and a good job and no one wud have time to think of castes and in a generation or two it wud disappear.

[ZC]

i am not comparing Hinduism with other religions...i am comparing Hinduiusm---different sections within.........
before Hindus complain abt racism elsewhere.......they shud stop racism within..........

yes that i agree...but we shud remember that education and materialism are the tools to wipe out casteism. look in the cities. who cares about caste of the co-worker or waiter in a hotel or yr co-passenger...? give everyone education and a good job and no one wud have time to think of castes and in a generation or two it wud disappear.

bade bhayya, engg aur medical colleges mein jaa-ke dekh.....ragging bhi caste ke basis pe karthe hain......math-lab, apun ka caste ka senior apun ko rag karega aur baad mein books aur treat degaaaaaa cities mein bhayya, cities mein

[akhilis2cool]

for an example: tum krusi pe Naidu ko dekha.......mein kursi ka toota hua tang dekha kursi damal aur Naidu bhi damaal

teen pair to bhi the kursi ko.......

congress ke zamaane mein to kursi ek he pair pe tikegi!!!!



woh bolte naa if con is opposite of pro then whats opposite of progress????



wasnt it in the congress regime that they introduced reservations for different castes there by dividing the society in the hope of some votes????

[azazel]

woh bolte naa if con is opposite of pro then whats opposite of progress????

, akhil bhai.. dun start politics here too.. plzzzzzzzzzzzz...

[ZC]

for an example: tum krusi pe Naidu ko dekha.......mein kursi ka toota hua tang dekha kursi damal aur Naidu bhi damaal

teen pair to bhi the kursi ko.......
congress ke zamaane mein to kursi ek he pair pe tikegi!!!!

woh bolte naa if con is opposite of pro then whats opposite of progress????

wasnt it in the congress regime that they introduced reservations for different castes there by dividing the society in the hope of some votes????

wasnt it the upper castes (read the brahmin dominated BJP, VHP, RSS) which started caste-ism since ancient times

[Prince]

'Classes' exist in all society and will continue to exist forever. In India, very unfortunately, over a period of time, this became based on birth.



Pick up any newspaper anywhere in the world, the third world at least. You will find the people blaming the government/ army/ police, the businessmen and religion - theirs or others. And, if you think about it, these are the first three 'castes' of early society - not just in India but in every single ancient civilization. The 'caste system' is still common in India because while the other ancient civilizations withered away or changed due to religious or political changes, the Indian civilization hasn't.



Irrespective of caste or religion, a doctor wants his son to be a doctor; similarly for businessmen, politicians, IAS officers, etc. This happens IF they have benefited by it. A farmer does not want his son to be a farmer if his experiences have been bad.



This has what happened in the past, and will happen in the future as well in all societies. The good thing that is happening is that this is now less based on birth.



The caste system in India is utterly revolting. No ifs and buts about it. Still, I think it is unfair to judge any society on any issue based on principles that are accepted/ practiced in the current times.



That would be like criticising Akbar or Chandragupta Maurya or any other great king for not practicing democracy.