concerts

[azazel]

Ajay Shastri's band? Who else play in it? But I seriously hope Ajay plays newer songs.

"hope is a dangerous thing" n U, of all ppl will know that

[CtrlAltDel]

i am not into metal and rock...so wud anybody clear a doubt:



whats the differnce btwn Metal and Hard Rock...? is there a differnce?



they both sound the same cacophonous to me...

[ZC]

if u hit metal with rocks then it is .........Heavy Metal



if u hit rocks with metals its is......hard rock

[CtrlAltDel]

if u hit rocks with metals its is......hard rock

hmmmm..then i've got some good hard rock musicians in the building under construction next door!

[azazel]

i am not into metal and rock...so wud anybody clear a doubt:whats the differnce btwn Metal and Hard Rock...? is there a difference?

after the defamatory remarks put forth by U n ZC, i refuse to clarify n request the walkin/talkin metal encyclopedia , Mr.Popesmokesdope to answer ur query ..

[gods_gift2_mankind]

after the defamatory remarks put forth by U n ZC, i refuse to clarify n request the walkin/talkin metal encyclopedia , Mr.Popesmokesdope to answer ur query ..

it shud work the other way round...no one and absolutely no one shud clear their doubts abt the music.....

only cos of the remarks..

wott say?

[azazel]

it shud work the other way round...no one and absolutely no one shud clear their doubts abt the music.....
only cos of the remarks..
wott say?

just wait 'til PSD see's those remarks..

the guys will get crucified

[JustaLittleUnwell]

Thanks azazel n black_wizard, for the info on the gig. I've already checked them out only recently at Qwicky's. Not sure if they wud've changed the set list significantly.



Reg. my kind of music, i like the classical rock bands like Deep Purple / Rainbow, Scorpions, Pink Floyd, Led Zep, Black Sabbath, Jimi Hendrix, Santana and the slightly mellow ones like Eagles, U2, REM etc. From the 90s scene i like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, RHCP, Extreme, Saigon Kick etc. Are there folks with similar musical interests? Will covering the above bands find an eager audience in Hyd? I can do a decent job on the vocals (covering bands like the above), and possibly chip in with rhythm / bass guitar. If there are other interested souls who can fill in the missing pieces (leads, drums and possibly keyboards), we can probably team up and explore where it goes :) (e.g. opening for the least known band visiting town ;) )



I am in touch with the local death metal clan, and I might just end up growling for them *wishful thinking* But i'm more of a rocker than a metaller, and wish to be involved in a rock act, irrespective of my luck with metal. I dunno if i made sense :)

[azazel]

Best of Luck , dude

[JustaLittleUnwell]

Thanks azzy :)

if u hit metal with rocks then it is .........Heavy Metal

if u hit rocks with metals its is......hard rock

hmmmm..then i've got some good hard rock musicians in the building under construction next door!

LOL. I love the guts of these guys :)

[CtrlAltDel]

it shud work the other way round...no one and absolutely no one shud clear their doubts abt the music.....

just wait 'til PSD see's those remarks..the guys will get crucified

hey! not fair! i posed a genuine doubt n then was responding to ZC's banter!



i admit i am not a metal-head...i lean towards so-called 'Black' music: Jazz, Rap, Blues, R&B and the like. in Rock i prefer old classics like JustaLittleUnwell mentioned (Eagles, Scorpions, BeeGees, Floyd, U2, also many songs of Guns n Roses, Bon Jovi, Aerosmith etc etc).



In hard rock n metal i just like certain songs that appeal to my ears, but those are few in number (like 'Nothing Matters'...or is it 'Something Matters'...by Metallica)



in my kind of music too, i go by my ear and also whether the songs perk me up. i dont go by band names, except for selected names like Eminem, 2Pac, Will Smith, Mary Blige and a few others.



now, wud anyone mind answering my original question...?

[Fiddler]

If there are other interested souls who can fill in the missing pieces (leads, drums and possibly keyboards), we can probably team up and explore where it goes (e.g. opening for the least known band visiting town )

Hey JAL, since you didn't turn up for the last meet, maybe you'll make it for this one? Things could be discussed. If you're looking for a keyboard, count me in. The only problem is that I haven't got a decent one of my own Could manage the drums, alternatively, if they're provided...

[Fiddler]

now, wud anyone mind answering my original question...?

Okay I could be wrong (PSD, Wizard correct me) but, as I see it, the main difference between hard rock and metal is the level of distortion on the guitar, with metal having a much higher level of distortion. Also, metal uses power chords more than hard rock. And, lastly, metal seems to use minor chords a lot more than hard rock does.



I know this is totally technical, but I don't think there's any other way to explain it. Sorry, ctrl bhai. Maybe I could explain it better during the meet

[CtrlAltDel]

....distortion....power chords....minor chords...

ouch...something just bounced hard off my head....

Maybe I could explain it better during the meet

maybe...but plz let the explanation be in english!

[black wizard]

now, wud anyone mind answering my original question...?

Okay I could be wrong (PSD, Wizard correct me) but, as I see it, the main difference between hard rock and metal is the level of distortion on the guitar, with metal having a much higher level of distortion. Also, metal uses power chords more than hard rock. And, lastly, metal seems to use minor chords a lot more than hard rock does.

I know this is totally technical, but I don't think there's any other way to explain it. Sorry, ctrl bhai. Maybe I could explain it better during the meet

well dude...PSD is always the right person to ask about metal and rock.

but then i shall give it a shot too



The basic difference is in the style of playing.

hard rock has its distinct style and so does metal.



yes u do have lots of power chords in metal...INVERSIONS, DIMINISHED.

The distortion too is different, but Zakk Wylde uses only OVERDRIVE to power his playing. That too on a Les Paul. Tricks of a metal guitar god dare i say???

then in metal u have a group of processors called STACKS.

hard rock doesnt make use of powerchords a lot ...but then if i try explaining the theory its gonna take a very long time...plus ur eyes are gonna b sore.



the sound also depends on the equipment.

for example:

Guitars like Fender, PRS, Gibson are ideally suited for hard rock...the pickups make the difference.

Guitars like ESP, B.C. Rich(the higher end models RULE!!!), Jackson are pure "METAL" guitars.

like i mentioned earlier, the pickups contribute to the "sound" a lot...

u have double coil pickups,humbuckers and the likes...

EMG pickups are the favourites.



not a very clear explanation i'm sure but i did try...

[azazel]

even tho, i said i wouldnt xplain stuff to ya..

cant see a desperate soul

if what Fiddler said was greek n latin to ya, then i guess what the Wizard said was the cave-man's tongue

ill just give u an example .. figure it out urself :

hard rock Aerosmith , Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Van Halen..

metal Metallica, Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest ..



there u go, mu humble attempt to impart knowledge.. incase u still dont get it, STOP visiting this topic

[JustaLittleUnwell]

Hey JAL, since you didn't turn up for the last meet, maybe you'll make it for this one? Things could be discussed. If you're looking for a keyboard, count me in. The only problem is that I haven't got a decent one of my own :) Could manage the drums, alternatively, if they're provided...

Fiddler, weren't you a guitarist? I do remember you mentioning so in our earlier 'round' of talks :) Well, we'll meet n discuss. If you are on for Saturday at L n B, then we meet during the meet. :)



Ctrl-bhai, u may update yr counter 4 saturday ;) Looking forward to meet whoever may choose to be present.........

[azazel]

Ctrl-bhai, u may update yr counter 4 saturday Looking forward to meet whoever may choose to be present.........

already DID yaar.. chk out announcements..

[CtrlAltDel]

Ctrl-bhai, u may update yr counter 4 saturday Looking forward to meet whoever may choose to be present.........

wud be gr8 2 meet u JaLU...remember, u dint make it 2 da last meet coz u were...well...just a little unwell! hope u r JustaLittleBetter now!

[JustaLittleUnwell]

Ctrl-bhai, it would be great to meet u too. :) Hope I am well enough, this time around.

[black wizard]

list update:

STAPPING YOUNG LAD (devin townsend and gene hoglan rruuulleeee!)

PECCATUM

OMNIUM GATHERUM

REQUIEM

BAL SAGOTH

DAWN OF RELIC

DARK DRANQUILITY

ANGEL CORPSE

ANCIENT

ENTOMBED

POSESSED(forefathers of death metal)

AT THE GATES

HATE ETERNAL (ex-morbid angel Erik Rutan)

DEMILICH

[popesmokesdope]

ROCK basically is derived from hajaar different forms of music(Blues, Jazz, Country, Folk etc etc). This is more of a "rhythm" based genre, and it doesn't conform to any particular style of playing, whihc makes it all the more difficult to describe it. Distortion, peppy drum beats in sync with the tempo, often clean and layered rhythms are some of the idiosyncrasies of this genre. For other nitty-gritties of ROck .







METAL is the bastard child of Rock. This is a "Riff" based genre, and is meticulously structured. Metal is an umbrella term for more or less the all the genres and sub-genres and what-not listed below-



Heavy Metal(HM): This is your basic metal prototype genre. The bass is dark, loud, full and slightly drunken, the leads are sharp and multi layered often accompanied by the heavy 'chugging' of the rhythms, the drumming is crisp and is slightly low on the mix. Anybody toying with the idea to experiment with metal, then this is your best shot.



Sub-Genres: NWOBHM, Power Metal, Speed Metal, Viking etc etc



Fav Bands: Mercyful Fate, King Diamond, Iron Maiden, Iced Earth, Falconer and Adagio.





Death Metal(DM): This genre has the disposition of repeating the same riffs again and again, while slowly building it up by playing it at higher notes till it reaches the acme and is usually followed by a huge roar, and discharges into either a hard-hitting frenzy or mesmerizing heart-rendering solos. The solos are simply awesome, and some of the best you'll ever get to hear. The drumming is extremely versatile and non-stop. Generally, the double bass is put to good use to suit the tempo of the music(though most of the newer bands seem to adopt a superfast, uninspiring mechanical style drumming)



Sub-Genres: Brutal DM, Melodic DM(eeeewwwww), Floridan DM, Technical DM, Gutenberg DM, NY DM etc etc



Fav Bands: PUNGENT STENCH, the unholy trinity of Incantation, Vader and Morbd Angel!, Immolation, Sinister, Deeds of Flesh, SUFFOCATION(yeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhh!!) and early AMORPHIS.





Black Metal(BM): Simple, straight-forward rhythm structure, mostly mid-paced though occasionally blasting and always corrosive. Punk-like, in-your-face guitar playing and harsh, gruff though often incoherent vocal delivery is used to accentuate this genre. This was how it used to be 15 yrs back. Most of the 'newer' BM bands sound like -- "...blast-blast-blast-trill-trill-trill-satan-satan-trill-blast-satan-blast-blast...".



Sub-Genres: Atmospheric BM, Norsecore, National Socialistic BM, Goth, Holocaust etc etc



Fav Bands: Bathory! Bathory!! Bathory!!! Venom, Havohej, Belphegor and Graveland.





Doom Metal: Doom is one of the main offshoots of Death Metal. Imagine a slower, darker, less grinding, melodic version of DM - thats what Doom metal sounds like! Repititive mid-paced riffs and anti continuous drumming led by melancholic growls are the main features of this genre.



Sub-Genres: Slow Doom, Death-Doom, Funeral Doom, Atmospheric Doom etc etc



Fav Bands: Winter, early Anathema, Evoken, Unholy and Esoteric.





Thrash Metal(TM): There is nothing much to say about TM. You just have to listen to it, to get the feel of the music. This is about being yourself, letting yourself free... but, mostly it is about hyper-fast guitar grinding/crashing with spit-fire vocal delivery and awesome drumming. This lies somewhere between the Heavy Metal and Death Metal in the metal spectrum.



Sub-Genres: Bay Area Thrash, Garage, Deathrash, Speed Thrash etc etc



Fav Bands: Kreator, Sodom, Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, POSSESSED(oh yeah!!) and WATCHTOWER!!!!!!!!!







For those of you who still think Metal is all about uncompromising senseless brutality, stop whining and try it out.

[JustaLittleUnwell]

If folks wouldn't mind and ponder over its domain name, this site provides tonnes of info on metal and its sub-genres: http://www.anus.com/metal/



Check the 'faq' section. Provides quite an insight about the ideologies at play - including sympathising with KKK, Nazism, nihilism etc. Just referring to some online info without prejudice :)

[black wizard]

ROCK WATCHTOWER!!!!!!!!!

dude isnt watchtower on the progressive side?


For those of you who still think Metal is all about uncompromising senseless brutality, stop whining and try it out.[/quote]





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[Fiddler]

Fiddler, weren't you a guitarist?

I play the guitar, but I don't consider myself good enough to be called 'a guitarist'. Can handle drums too, but am best at the keyboards. It's been a long time since I played on a good one, though. The last I played was a Yamaha PSR 610, and that was almost 6 years ago...