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by akhilis2cool » Thu Apr 08, 2004 7:38 pm

We are not interested in knowing our own state's data and so many universities are coming from abraod and oind research on various topics.[/quote]



Hey that was enlighntning. we need to keep this going. Please let me know when ever u get a peace of information like this.



As for he desire of people ti know abt. the state, I agree that in general there is no awareness among people about these issues. But what can we do? no news paper carries a regular up date on issues like these.
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Re: naidu

by Saradhi » Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:42 pm

akhilis2cool wrote:
Saradhi wrote:
akhilis2cool wrote:[quote="Saradhi




University of Kassel , Center for Environmental Systems Research from Germany
made a case study and submitted a report.

See

http://www.usf.uni-kassel.de/secdiag/proj03e.html


We are not interested in knowing our own state's data and so many universities are coming from abraod and oind research on various topics.


Hey that was enlighntning. we need to keep this going. Please let me know when ever u get a peace of information like this.

As for he desire of people ti know abt. the state, I agree that in general there is no awareness among people about these issues. But what can we do? no news paper carries a regular up date on issues like these.[/quote]



Our NEWS Papers only needs Gossip and Masala NEWS.

They doesnt care about anything.



To have and know about these things, people's mindset have to be changed.

The agriculture position in AP is choosen as a case study for a University in Germany.



Howmany people knows this?

Thats the fate of this state.



Everybody talks about development and what Naidu is doing and always critisises them from top to bottom.

Howmany knows and understands this is also a threory which needs to be dealt carefully.
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Re: naidu

by Saradhi » Thu Apr 08, 2004 8:45 pm

akhilis2cool wrote:We are not interested in knowing our own state's data and so many universities are coming from abraod and oind research on various topics.


Hey that was enlighntning. we need to keep this going. Please let me know when ever u get a peace of information like this.

As for he desire of people ti know abt. the state, I agree that in general there is no awareness among people about these issues. But what can we do? no news paper carries a regular up date on issues like these.[/quote]





Come to



http://www.fullhyderabad.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?p=41000

I had a lot of interesting info and posts about the REforms and the development.

Lets keep that post moving with a lot of such info
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by BB » Thu Apr 08, 2004 9:44 pm

I think emhasis should be laid on educating farmers in new methods of agriculture. Like in US Universities should carry out research and help farmers. I also think it is best to make the economy of frequently drought hit areas like telangana more into non-agricultural sector like mining, construction and services. That would help and people in Coastal andhra should take up high productive farming. But I am not sure how easy this is to make.
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Data Vs Reality!

by Happy Hyderabadi » Fri Apr 09, 2004 9:09 am

Whatever may be the Claims / Counter-Claima in RE: IT Revolution & Benefits, we go by our own Experience!



I went to my Bank, the other day, for updating the Passbook / checking the Balance. Only to be told: "Sorry, Computer Down".



I go to the Rly Res Ctr with Credit Card. Only to be told: "Sorry, the Line' Down ... Pl pay Cash!"



May be Isolated Instances ... One in a Million. But, I am that "Lakhon Mein Ek"!



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development

by akhilis2cool » Fri Apr 09, 2004 2:02 pm

BB wrote:I think emhasis should be laid on educating farmers in new methods of agriculture. Like in US Universities should carry out research and help farmers. I also think it is best to make the economy of frequently drought hit areas like telangana more into non-agricultural sector like mining, construction and services. That would help and people in Coastal andhra should take up high productive farming. But I am not sure how easy this is to make.




For this the govt. must take the initiative. I am sure there are several brilliant guys around waiting to contribute in such type of a research campaign. its better if the researchers come from those areas only. But over all i guess we need to give the govt. at least 2-3 yrs for doing this.
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Re: Data Vs Reality!

by Saradhi » Fri Apr 09, 2004 5:36 pm

Happy Hyderabadi wrote:Whatever may be the Claims / Counter-Claima in RE: IT Revolution & Benefits, we go by our own Experience!

I went to my Bank, the other day, for updating the Passbook / checking the Balance. Only to be told: "Sorry, Computer Down".

I go to the Rly Res Ctr with Credit Card. Only to be told: "Sorry, the Line' Down ... Pl pay Cash!"

May be Isolated Instances ... One in a Million. But, I am that "Lakhon Mein Ek"!

:oops: :oops: 8) 8) :cry: :cry: :P :P :x :x :twisted: :twisted: :roll:




Arey Bhai.

There would be always problems when implementing such large scale programs.

It doesnt mean that the program itself is wrong.



You need not burn your own house if you find a small rabit in it.

The wise thing to do is to kill that rabit and protect your house.



The difficulties in the prgrams are also like that.

you need to be patient and educate the people
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by ZC » Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:42 pm

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... 610333.cms



MS goes to Pune after HYD and Blore.................



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



While Gults celebrate ISB, the Maratas are getting the INSEAD at Pune

and possibly

a Harvard's research division (on case studies) at Mumbai.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Naidu :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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by ZC » Sun Apr 11, 2004 2:42 pm

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/art ... 610333.cms



MS goes to Pune after HYD and Blore.................



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:



While Gults celebrate ISB, the Maratas are getting the INSEAD at Pune

and possibly

a Harvard's research division (on case studies) at Mumbai.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Naidu :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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naidu

by akhilis2cool » Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:28 pm

ZC wrote:http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/610333.cms

MS goes to Pune after HYD and Blore.................


While Gults celebrate ISB, the Maratas are getting the INSEAD at Pune
and possibly
a Harvard's research division (on case studies) at Mumbai.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Naidu :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:




AFTER hyd and bangalore



ABt harward going to pune: Why, arent they going to allow us hyderabadis in pune or what?any way I dont see how that is going to affect the development of AP or Maharashtra.



I think there is quite a healthy competition between the states in this regard.



u win some u loose some. whats the big deal?
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Re: naidu

by Saradhi » Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:39 am

akhilis2cool wrote:
ZC wrote:http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/610333.cms

MS goes to Pune after HYD and Blore.................


While Gults celebrate ISB, the Maratas are getting the INSEAD at Pune
and possibly
a Harvard's research division (on case studies) at Mumbai.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Naidu :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


AFTER hyd and bangalore

ABt harward going to pune: Why, arent they going to allow us hyderabadis in pune or what?any way I dont see how that is going to affect the development of AP or Maharashtra.

I think there is quite a healthy competition between the states in this regard.

u win some u loose some. whats the big deal?




Absolutely.

Wts the big deal here?



Moreover, the plan is only in the initial stages.

Who knows somebody from HYderabad might have already contacted MS and it might be rethinking its plan.



We need not worry if somebody puts a company outside hyderabad.



Again, if you have centres in three cities in the Country, Competetion among these centres will increases and the output from India increases and hence more and more centres will come to India.



Naidu has convinced MS to come out of its policy and put its first centre out of its head quarters and its huge achievement and others are following his footsteps.





I dont see anyhting wrong and it is not a failure of Naidu also.
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Macro Idealism Vs Micro Reality

by Happy Hyderabadi » Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:49 am

We are "online" Macro Idelism at the State and perhaps "District" Level what with Video Conferencing and eSeva Service ... but we are also thrown out of gear by the Micro Reality ... Schools without working Computers ... Political Rallies disturbing, disrupting and inconveniencing the Citizenry.



I was stranded in our Bus for over Two Hours, just because the (dis)Honourable Leader was going in a Rally to file Nomination Papers ... A good half day gone for the poor Citizens caught in this Jam!



I was helpless on the Highway for more than an hour at Night ... Not a Single Bus plied past the Bus Station, because that was made into a Political Meeting Ground where the CM himself addressed with the additional Security making movement impossible on the Highway ... Ideal for promoting the "Feel Sick Factor" against the VIPs involved ... I had to walk a long way to get out of the Jam!



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Re: Macro Idealism Vs Micro Reality

by Saradhi » Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:37 am

Happy Hyderabadi wrote:We are "online" Macro Idelism at the State and perhaps "District" Level what with Video Conferencing and eSeva Service ... but we are also thrown out of gear by the Micro Reality ... Schools without working Computers ... Political Rallies disturbing, disrupting and inconveniencing the Citizenry.

I was stranded in our Bus for over Two Hours, just because the (dis)Honourable Leader was going in a Rally to file Nomination Papers ... A good half day gone for the poor Citizens caught in this Jam!

I was helpless on the Highway for more than an hour at Night ... Not a Single Bus plied past the Bus Station, because that was made into a Political Meeting Ground where the CM himself addressed with the additional Security making movement impossible on the Highway ... Ideal for promoting the "Feel Sick Factor" against the VIPs involved ... I had to walk a long way to get out of the Jam!

:arrow:




Yes, This shit is already there.

Thats the reason, Supreeme Court have banned rallies in the week days in Calcutta.

Somebody should goto court in hyderabad also.



I also read a case of a woman giving birth to a baby in an auto whne she is going to hosiptal for her delivery.

She got deleived on the road on the auto because th traffic jammed because some leader is filing a nomination.

These idiot politiciana wanted to shoe their strengths and always give stateemtns that they are working for the people, but they dont know that they are casuing a lot of inconvenience to the people.



But there are some positive steps taken by certain individuals.

PM, Deputy PM and president want to commute on helicapter in delhi to avoid suchs traffic jams on the roads.
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Re: naidu

by ZC » Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:45 pm

akhilis2cool wrote:AFTER hyd and bangalore

ABt harward going to pune: Why, arent they going to allow us hyderabadis in pune or what?


Microsoft: order doesnt really matter........HYD, Blore, Pune........coz it came to HYD bcoz of Rao R and not becoz of Naidu..........it went elsewhere coz it has to.............. :D

Absolutely.
Wts the big deal here?




ISB: arent others allowed in ISB or what ? so whatz the big deal that ISB is in HYD :!: :lol:
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Re: naidu

by akhilis2cool » Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:39 pm

ZC wrote:Microsoft: order doesnt really matter........HYD, Blore, Pune........coz it came to HYD bcoz of Rao R and not becoz of Naidu..........it went elsewhere coz it has to.............. :D


ISB: arent others allowed in ISB or what ? so whatz the big deal that ISB is in HYD :!: :lol:






I wonder then why u mentioned that MS is goiing to pune. First u criticise the naidu govt. for that happening and then contradict it with statements like the one above abt ISB.



When u make a point hold on to it.
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Re: naidu

by CtrlAltDel » Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:04 pm

akhilis2cool wrote:I wonder then why u mentioned that MS is goiing to pune. First u criticise the naidu govt. for that happening and then contradict it with statements like the one above abt ISB.
When u make a point hold on to it.




first of all the article never says MS is going to Pune with an R&D center. it just says Pune has invited MS to consider it as a potential site.



so what hyderabad already has MS's one of two R&D centers in the world (the other is in Israel). its good if Pune gets it too...showcases india as a varied destination rather than centered around one region...



Remember all the other states are now copying what Naidu has already done in the past...same policies, same transparency...everybody wants to do it...incl the Congress which is critisizing it here.



ZC, ISB is a prestigious institute in AP. if Harward is going to pune, hydbad has Wharton...its even...FYI this year ISB alumini had better pay packets than IIM alumini.
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Re: naidu

by Saradhi » Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:48 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:
akhilis2cool wrote:I wonder then why u mentioned that MS is goiing to pune. First u criticise the naidu govt. for that happening and then contradict it with statements like the one above abt ISB.
When u make a point hold on to it.


first of all the article never says MS is going to Pune with an R&D center. it just says Pune has invited MS to consider it as a potential site.

so what hyderabad already has MS's one of two R&D centers in the world (the other is in Israel). its good if Pune gets it too...showcases india as a varied destination rather than centered around one region...

Remember all the other states are now copying what Naidu has already done in the past...same policies, same transparency...everybody wants to do it...incl the Congress which is critisizing it here.

ZC, ISB is a prestigious institute in AP. if Harward is going to pune, hydbad has Wharton...its even...FYI this year ISB alumini had better pay packets than IIM alumini.




Thats what I said in my "New Geenration" Post.

These sort of destruction politics always destrioying India.



Naidu is now the icon for all the CMs in INdia.

They are following his ideas , his policies either directly or indirectly.



Communists criticises Naidu here. But in Bengal, they are following the same policies, getting loan from world bank.

SM Krishna is following the same in Karnataka, Digvijay Singh followed the same in M.Pradesh.

Thats the actual point here.



Even though they criticises him in public only because they belongs to opposition, most of the leaders prasies him in private and Mr.Jairam Ramesh, the convener of Congress Economic Cell agress this and he never criticises Naidu. More over he priases Naidu for Continueing the Reforms.



So Dont worry about other companies going to other states.

It increases helthy competetion and hence increases India's strength as a whole.



Moreover AP havent developed because of the lack of long-term development vision by the previous leaders. People always needs young, sincere, enthusiastic and innovative leadership. See the stateemnts of YSR and congress leaders. They are today ready to do anyhting for power.



FRee power promise is what you can take today. No Congress-ruled state in the country has implemented such a scheme. The AICC president, Sonia Gandhi, forced the Congress ministry in Punjab not to implement its pre-election promise of supplying free power to farmers. Nor did she offer any support to such a scheme during her recent three-day tour of Andhra Pradesh. "This clearly exposes the attempts of State Congress leaders to hoodwink voters" and trying to destroy india.



OK. ZC , let us assume that Naidu havent done anyhting.

Then who is your alternative today?



Lets face the reality now.

Who is the alternative now?



YSR??

DSR??

KCR??



Tickets distribuitonloooneee tickets ammukunnaa vaaallu Congress vaaallu.

Telaganaku neeellu raaakakpoothe Srisailamu Damnu Padagodathaa antaadu KCR. Naxalite's agendanee naaa agendaa antaadu KCR.



This si what you want?
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Power of Naidu

by Saradhi » Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:59 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:
akhilis2cool wrote:I wonder then why u mentioned that MS is goiing to pune. First u criticise the naidu govt. for that happening and then contradict it with statements like the one above abt ISB.
When u make a point hold on to it.


first of all the article never says MS is going to Pune with an R&D center. it just says Pune has invited MS to consider it as a potential site.

so what hyderabad already has MS's one of two R&D centers in the world (the other is in Israel). its good if Pune gets it too...showcases india as a varied destination rather than centered around one region...

Remember all the other states are now copying what Naidu has already done in the past...same policies, same transparency...everybody wants to do it...incl the Congress which is critisizing it here.

ZC, ISB is a prestigious institute in AP. if Harward is going to pune, hydbad has Wharton...its even...FYI this year ISB alumini had better pay packets than IIM alumini.




Naidu is now the icon for all the CMs in INdia.

They are following his ideas , his policies either directly or indirectly.



See the naidu of North.

http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full ... t_id=51356



We will see a lot of poeple like this in the next coming years.
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Re: Power of Naidu

by akhilis2cool » Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:18 pm

Saradhi wrote:Naidu is now the icon for all the CMs in INdia.
They are following his ideas , his policies either directly or indirectly.

See the naidu of North.
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full ... t_id=51356

We will see a lot of poeple like this in the next coming years.




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by azazel » Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:28 pm

i second that
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by ZC » Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:28 pm

that very rediff article (first one) says



It is doubtful if his policies have made a positive impact in rural Andhra Pradesh. The farmers' suicides may come to haunt the TDP this election.





IT/software is not everything as i said before.............u guys come out of the glass windows and see in rural areas....... :roll: :roll: u guys seem to think that u will connect a laptop to run pumps for water in teh fields :roll: :roll:



electricity, he has added much capacity people said........call ur home town and ask, how much power cuts they are having :?: :roll:





after all the pomp of TDP........and BJP these days.........calling India shinning and feel good factor...........a poll says .......70% people have not heard abt it :roll: :roll:
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Re: Power of Naidu

by ZC » Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:32 pm

akhilis2cool wrote:no matter how hard mulayam tries UP can nver be AP




u sound like a German from Hitler's time



My country: Right or Wrong



in this case My state: right or wrong :roll: :roll:
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Re: naidu

by ZC » Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:42 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:ZC, ISB is a prestigious institute in AP. if Harward is going to pune, hydbad has Wharton...its even...FYI this year ISB alumini had better pay packets than IIM alumini.




again....ur career-centric



from my previous post



and u CtrlAltDel......working in the industry.......u dont see outside it.......... every software guy, from IIT, NIT, BITS (all branches go to IT jobs leaving their discipline)...........most people from the other good engg colleges go to software.............and then people get confused abt what to do...........everyone thinks........oh, damn it, i being an IITian is working along side with an Osmania Univ guy............the JNTU guy thinks, damn it......he being a payment seat is working along side me in Infy or Wipro.............i being a CSE guy am working along side a civil engineer........the feeling sets in..........u plan an MS in US or .......people plan an MBA..............and these confused individuals......................sit together over a cup of tea, every day.......have nothing in their mind other than IIM and ISB............so, all u feel is that Naidu has done everything great.................isnt everything i just said abt the mindset of the people in software true so, all u guys can see is the window panes in HYD and dream abt making it to ISB.............so nothing else comes to ur mind................people say, i made up my mind that, Naidu did nothing.............may be, may be not...........i would say..........u guys whoever have talked ISB and Naidu bringing MS to HYD........would have some point in ur lifetime thought that "I will do an MBA" (y? the reason as i said above), and would have considered ISB................now, if u have the ability to come out of the mindset of a typical software guy..........can think anythig outside ur career path..........then u would understand y statistics on what Naidu has done would matter................





what has Naidu done for the farmer ?? forget abt Ambani praising him. Mulayam SIngh trying to copy his hype, Financial express reporting abt him..........soeak abt the grass root work. as rediff says



It is doubtful if his policies have made a positive impact in rural Andhra Pradesh. The farmers' suicides may come to haunt the TDP this election.
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HERE WE GO

by Saradhi » Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:47 pm

ZC wrote:that very rediff article (first one) says

It is doubtful if his policies have made a positive impact in rural Andhra Pradesh. The farmers' suicides may come to haunt the TDP this election.


IT/software is not everything as i said before.............u guys come out of the glass windows and see in rural areas....... :roll: :roll: u guys seem to think that u will connect a laptop to run pumps for water in teh fields :roll: :roll:

electricity, he has added much capacity people said........call ur home town and ask, how much power cuts they are having :?: :roll:


after all the pomp of TDP........and BJP these days.........calling India shinning and feel good factor...........a poll says .......70% people have not heard abt it :roll: :roll:




HERE WE GO.

I expected the same reaction from you immediately.

:)



Power cuts are not the things we have new today man.

If you dont know, lets talk about theory of Electricity here.

There are two kinds of Electicity.

Hydral comes from Water, Thermal comes from Coal.



Hydral Electricity always depedns on the elvel of waters in the Reservoirs and if you imagine and thinks about the amount of water we have and the amount of rains we have, it is very difficult to produce much Hydralic Electrity. and over the years, it is ironical that more thna 70% of the state always depended on the Hydralic Electricty, not Thermal Electricity.



But if you can understand the statistics, now AP's HYdro-Electricty usage have decreased to 49% and THermo-Electricy inceased to 51%. Wait & watch. In the next 5 years, the Hydro-Electricty usage shoudl come below 20% and there wont be any power cuts.



Situation has been improving and will improve considerably in the future.

By that time, he would be always criticised and he wont mind any such critisisms.



As I said DEvelopment is a continous process and we are in the right track.

As long as We stop depending much on Hydral Electricity , the situation would be like this one.

Situation has been improving and will improve considerably in the future.

By that time, he would be always criticised and he wont mind any such critisisms.
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