Separate Telangana?

by **JPM** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:15 pm

Your article doesn\'t make any sense! I know you can do better.

by **DEL** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 3:32 am

Do you really understand, what is needed for cultivation ? How a delta is formed ? Is is superior place for cultivation ? Any ways why is that any andhra land would produce the same amout of crop per Ac when compared with telangana land. If your arugument stands true , then the so called fertile lands should produce at least twice the crop of the so calle waste lands.

by **DEL** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 3:33 am

Do you really understand, what is needed for cultivation ? How a delta is formed ? Is is superior place for cultivation ? Any ways why is that any andhra land would produce the same amout of crop per Ac when compared with telangana land. If your arugument stands true , then the so called fertile lands should produce at least twice the crop of the so calle waste lands.

by **DEL** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 3:33 am

Do you really understand, what is needed for cultivation ? How a delta is formed ? Is is superior place for cultivation ? Any ways why is that any andhra land would produce the same amout of crop per Ac when compared with telangana land. If your arugument stands true , then the so called fertile lands should produce at least twice the crop of the so calle waste lands.

by **DEL** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 3:34 am

Do you really understand, what is needed for cultivation ? How a delta is formed ? Is is superior place for cultivation ? Any ways why is that any andhra land would produce the same amout of crop per Ac when compared with telangana land. If your arugument stands true , then the so called fertile lands should produce at least twice the crop of the so calle waste lands.

by **Habitual Perfectionist** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 3:44 am

Glancing at this board reminds me of what one of my mentors once said when I was disgusted with office politics.
 
 Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

by **DEL** » Thu Dec 11, 2003 4:30 am

Hey!!! cool down a little, first of all I think Telangana is not just hyderabad it is much bigger than it sounds , I have read lot my fellow educated intellectuals stating that if a state breaks up it would be Telangana that would be most effected and all the ill in Telangana is because of the foolish people of that land, Telangana is was no more then earlier Nizam kingdom, which was broken and divided by 3 States Andhra,Karnatak,and Madhya Pradesh, people of this region thought at last their government is in place, 50 years passed since that day hardly anything happened , it was same rule but different people now.
 
 As elders say their is no smoke with out fire, 3 worst effected districts of negligence were MahaboobNagar, Nalgonda and Adilabad. none of the people from these village would ask for no more then some clean water to drink, at least one full meal and education for their children, they have been asking all the governments from the past 50 years, but only to fall on def years.
 
 For the people of this region there is nothing that makes them happy in this free India (So called), we are talking about technology, Roads ,Airports,FormulaOne Car Racings and development CB-Naidu has done to our state, IF he cannot give dirking water to his adopted district (Mahaboobnagar) what good is he to be called as a chief minister, in the past 8 years of his rules he could not solve the single problem faced by almost 30% of the state population. If we consider this as development then yes Telangana needs a saperate State for the people would not be dependent on others for favours, History says situation like this cannot be sustained for long. they do not need eye wash they need self-determination .
 
 
 lets us concentrate our energy on giving them these basic necessities, they are not even fighting , as they do not have enough energy to fight they are exhausted.
 
 I know most of you in this discussion are more educated and intellectual people then to just put your ego\'s before you
 
 To help other fellow person is to help thy self, Lets strive to give those people at least the basic necessities.

by **Saradhi** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:44 pm

Recently I read KCR's Interview

http://www.greatandhra.com/interviews/k ... rview.html

I have a few questions to put after going thru that INterview.

1)He says "If TRS manages to get all the Lok Sabha seats in Telangana region, we can exert pressure to get the separate Telangana State. The powers at the centre have no other option, but to accept it. The creation of a separate Telangana State is possible only through legislation in the Parliament. It should be a political decision alone. Hence my initial strategy and argument holds good till date."

He is absolutely right. Then why he & his party is trying to contest in next AP Assembly elections. He can wait & make the party more strong & can contest in next coming Parliament elections and can send may be 7 to 10 MPs from his region to parliament And can pressurise next Govt for the Telangana. May be who knows if TDP fails miserably in next AP Assembly elections, BJP may go away from TDP & may go in alliance with TRS & KCR can join NDA & can get his seperate State. Its sure that only Parliamennt resolution can give seperate Telagna state. We all know in its miserable position and the reluctance of Congress not realising the politics of coaliatons , Congress cant come to power in Centre for the next 10 years. Why cant KCR realise this fact & become closer to TDP-BJP Alliance by joining NDA & I am sure TDP is ready to sacrifice 10 MPs for its existence in AP state politics.

2) He again says "Whether it is the BJP or the Congress, they have cheated the people in the Telangana region. They have no commitment at all. All that they can do it is to keep the Telangana issue on the agenda besides several other issues. In Telangana we don’t want Dr Y S Rajashekar Reddy’s padayatras or Nara Chandrababu Naidu’s whirlwind tours. ".

Then why all this fuss about having an alliance with Congress?? Once he says Congress is the number one enemy for Telangana. and again he says we are ready for any alliance with any party to defeat TDP-BJP. Wts this all about?? Are these double standards or is there any confusion in his mind??

3) He says "The Naxal issue is a socio-economic and political issue. If the center can have a dialogue with Mizo rebels, Naga rebels and if Srilanaka government opens a dialogue with the LTTE why not with the naxals here? What is the problem? Even the battle of Kurukshetra had its ending. Is it difficult to find a solution to naxal problem? ".

He is partially right. But if govt was ready to come for discussions, what the Naxals did?? They never came for discussions. What happeded when NTR lifted ban over naxals and asked them to come into active life?? They exploited the situation & recruited more & more people openly.

socio-economic and political issue is not all about destroying People's assets, govt buildings & railway stations.

There was a NEWS that Naxals planned to attack Thitupathi temple like in Aksharadhamamu. IF ISI people attacked Akshradhaamamu, it is meaningful, they are not from India & tried to destroy India, but where are these naxalites?? from where these people came??Are they are not human beings??

What they will gain if they destroys People's assets, railway stations, public places, govt offices???

Have your views on this Interview and my post

by **visalandhra** » Wed Jan 07, 2004 2:52 pm

i would like to ask jaitelangana and del,

Why can't you(the ppl of telangana) contribute ur contribution to develope ur reign?herei'll give a example how the developement is possible if ppl contributes.In andhra reign "jnamabumi" program is utilised with a greater extent.the ppl there contributed their contribution and layed cement roads in the rural areas.and also they constucted the water tanks by using this program.why r u not doing all this?

Don't put blame on the governments.here i'll mention the great Abraham Lincon's quotation."Don't see what ur country did to u.But ask ur self what u did to ur nation".the developement is possible if and only if the ppl contribute.

As saradhi stated that if naxalaties destroying the basic neccessary things of government owned or private owned how the investors will invest in this region.

I want to say one thing "wherever naxalites are there there is no developement".You can see this in adhra region also.why sreekakulam and vizayanagaram are the backward districts in andhra?only this is the reason..

So first educate the ppl not to give their support to naxalites.then government offcials will be seen in ur area.automatically ur area will develop.For this no need of separate telangana.we all together and make this state as "Swarna andhrapradesh".

by **Pavan** » Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:58 pm

It was nice way to say that this will be it and dont expect any change, When the basic necessities of the people are not catered by the government, I dont see any reason for the people to support it, no one cares if it is "Swarna andhrapradesh or Platinum andhrapradesh" when once stomach is burning.

IF you go and confirm with any TD-Party member or official they will tell you what and how much of Janambhoomi has been done in Telangana, I would bet on the fact that more work is done in Telengana then any other part of AP on this matter.

Why don’t u people look beyond roads, buildings and hyderabad. for that matter another summer like that of 2003 , you would see people dying of thrust in hyderabad, don’t u think the Govt could have planned better for this situation, this is just an example of the failure of the govt, just getting foreign investment into the state is not enough,

Dont blame Naxalites for every thing that is happening , at least they some times know what they are doing, unlike the government. Do u know of any basic necessities they destroyed ?,

Lets not talk bing about Abrahm Lincon's statement, I strongly believe in the concept of me, We and Our. I think every person thinks this way first make ur self conformtable, then think of neighbors then think of country.

I would like to shoot this to Mr.Saradhi's coment about

"There was a NEWS that Naxals planned to attack Thitupathi temple like in Aksharadhamamu. IF ISI people attacked Akshradhaamamu, it is meaningful, they are not from India & tried to destroy India, but where are these naxalites?? from where these people came??Are they are not human beings?? "

Please don’t ever propagate things like this, I know you just made it up, I would appreciate if you could forward me ur reliable source on this information. Please avoid making insane statements like this .

I would say “Water and Illiteracy “ are the main cause of this, Let the govt strive for water , I will strive for better Literacy in this region. Lets see if we can make any change.

visalandhra wrote:i would like to ask jaitelangana and del,
Why can't you(the ppl of telangana) contribute ur contribution to develope ur reign?herei'll give a example how the developement is possible if ppl contributes.In andhra reign "jnamabumi" program is utilised with a greater extent.the ppl there contributed their contribution and layed cement roads in the rural areas.and also they constucted the water tanks by using this program.why r u not doing all this?
Don't put blame on the governments.here i'll mention the great Abraham Lincon's quotation."Don't see what ur country did to u.But ask ur self what u did to ur nation".the developement is possible if and only if the ppl contribute.
As saradhi stated that if naxalaties destroying the basic neccessary things of government owned or private owned how the investors will invest in this region.
I want to say one thing "wherever naxalites are there there is no developement".You can see this in adhra region also.why sreekakulam and vizayanagaram are the backward districts in andhra?only this is the reason..
So first educate the ppl not to give their support to naxalites.then government offcials will be seen in ur area.automatically ur area will develop.For this no need of separate telangana.we all together and make this state as "Swarna andhrapradesh".

by **JustaLittleUnwell** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:40 am

Pavan wrote:I would say “Water and Illiteracy “ are the main cause of this, Let the govt strive for water , I will strive for better Literacy in this region. Lets see if we can make any change.

Hi Pavan, welcome back to the board :) And hats off to your above statement (even though slightly ambitious). This should be the spirit of every Indian if the lot of the unfortunate has to improve.

IMHO, a separate Telengana is only a quick-fix, that may only provide a temporary sense of wellness, before the ground realities are realized. The stomachs are burning not just for the Telenganites, but also for the Andhraites, the people from Rayalaseema, the other states, the entire nation.........

We have 500 million Indians who will come knocking on our doors if we don't do something about it soon, but instead keep ourselves busy with sexed up images put out in the media like 'India Shining' or 'Swarna Andhra'.

by **Saradhi** » Thu Jan 08, 2004 9:58 am

Pavan wrote:It was nice way to say that this will be it and dont expect any change, When the basic necessities of the people are not catered by the government, I dont see any reason for the people to support it, no one cares if it is "Swarna andhrapradesh or Platinum andhrapradesh" when once stomach is burning.

IF you go and confirm with any TD-Party member or official they will tell you what and how much of Janambhoomi has been done in Telangana, I would bet on the fact that more work is done in Telengana then any other part of AP on this matter.

Why don’t u people look beyond roads, buildings and hyderabad. for that matter another summer like that of 2003 , you would see people dying of thrust in hyderabad, don’t u think the Govt could have planned better for this situation, this is just an example of the failure of the govt, just getting foreign investment into the state is not enough,

Dont blame Naxalites for every thing that is happening , at least they some times know what they are doing, unlike the government. Do u know of any basic necessities they destroyed ?,

Lets not talk bing about Abrahm Lincon's statement, I strongly believe in the concept of me, We and Our. I think every person thinks this way first make ur self conformtable, then think of neighbors then think of country.

I would like to shoot this to Mr.Saradhi's coment about

"There was a NEWS that Naxals planned to attack Thitupathi temple like in Aksharadhamamu. IF ISI people attacked Akshradhaamamu, it is meaningful, they are not from India & tried to destroy India, but where are these naxalites?? from where these people came??Are they are not human beings?? "

Please don’t ever propagate things like this, I know you just made it up, I would appreciate if you could forward me ur reliable source on this information. Please avoid making insane statements like this .

I would say “Water and Illiteracy “ are the main cause of this, Let the govt strive for water , I will strive for better Literacy in this region. Lets see if we can make any change.

visalandhra wrote:i would like to ask jaitelangana and del,
Why can't you(the ppl of telangana) contribute ur contribution to develope ur reign?herei'll give a example how the developement is possible if ppl contributes.In andhra reign "jnamabumi" program is utilised with a greater extent.the ppl there contributed their contribution and layed cement roads in the rural areas.and also they constucted the water tanks by using this program.why r u not doing all this?
Don't put blame on the governments.here i'll mention the great Abraham Lincon's quotation."Don't see what ur country did to u.But ask ur self what u did to ur nation".the developement is possible if and only if the ppl contribute.
As saradhi stated that if naxalaties destroying the basic neccessary things of government owned or private owned how the investors will invest in this region.
I want to say one thing "wherever naxalites are there there is no developement".You can see this in adhra region also.why sreekakulam and vizayanagaram are the backward districts in andhra?only this is the reason..
So first educate the ppl not to give their support to naxalites.then government offcials will be seen in ur area.automatically ur area will develop.For this no need of separate telangana.we all together and make this state as "Swarna andhrapradesh".

Hello Pavan,

I am not a politician to propagate things here.

I read it in an article in REDIFF.COM. I will definitely will post a link of that article soon. I ned to search for it.

And what do you mean by any basic necessities they havent destroyed ??

Do you mean to say a telephone exchange in a village is not a basic

necessitiy? If there is any problem , any accident or anything , a phone call will reach the nearest city within no time and if you do not have a telephone exchange & phone facility , it takes hours to get the NEWS & hence the damage will be done before the govt can take action on it.

Do you mean to say railways are not any basic necessitiy?

You know poor people's main travelling purpose is Rail because it is cheaper.

Whatever they have destroyed big or small, essential or nonessential, they do not have the right to do. Why should they destoy them even they are not essential???

You are not understanding the basic problem here.

If the naxals destroys anything be it small or big and if they are not allowing Govt officers to step into Villages, how the development will happen??

Govt.officers were forced to go villages by this Janmabhoomi program , but naxals destroying this oppurtunity by not allowing them to enter into villages.

by **visalandhra** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:16 pm

saradhi u found a good point on the naxalites issue.

Why naxalites are destroying the ppls assets(are the telephone excahnges and railway stations are not ours?).where the money is coming to construct these things?we the ppl paying so many taxes to the govt to set these things.means they r destroying our property.

Pavan i ask u one question,if a person comes and destroys ur house,then what will u do?r u anger with him or not?That house was built by the money which u saved from so many years.then how u feel?this is the same if the naxalites came and destroys our property.if they destroyed who will bare the money?definitely naxalites were not bare the money,we have to pay the money again to the government to make same replica.so how much money is wasting in this process?

pavan,another thing u asked is if the ppl r thinking abt their livelihood then how they concentarate on "janmabhoomi"?why the ppl not construct small check dams and water harvesting things in their fields or villages?if they all combined together that is not a big thing.That will give the water sources to the villages.

i am remembering one song in telugu "

Evaro vastharani edo chestharani eduru chusi mosapokuma, nijam marachi nidura pokuma"

this will be true for anything including in personal life also.If the ppl in telangana will contribute to their own land then it will develope automaticallly,to do this separation is not the solution..pls don't blame on any goverments.first ask ur self what r u doing for ur region.

by **Saradhi** » Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:45 pm

Pavan wrote:I would say “Water and Illiteracy “ are the main cause of this, Let the govt strive for water , I will strive for better Literacy in this region. Lets see if we can make any change.

Aha,

Its easy to say I"ll do this , I"ll do that.

But words should matched into Actions then only there is some meaning for that words.

Just compare the Contribution of Telagana region NRIs to their region and that of Andhra region .

You better will know the statistics.

If you want to do something for your region, do it without looking for the govt to come out. We all know that all politicians are F***ers, they dont have any intention of any developmental activities. Then why we wait for the govt to come and develop your region.

How many Non-governmental organizations are working in Telagana region and in Andhra Region?

Howmany private schools youhave in your region and howmany you have in andhra?

by **Mayavi Morpheus** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:34 am

Ladies, Calm down.

Is this board to discuss problems telangana region is facing or comparision between Andhra and Telangana?

I have made a request long time back to list the problems telangana is facing , their cause and possible solutions. Then we can discuss the need for a seperate state. No one posted any thing on that, does that indicate a lack of understanding of the seperate telangana issue?

by **Saradhi** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:53 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:Ladies, Calm down.

Is this board to discuss problems telangana region is facing or comparision between Andhra and Telangana?

I have made a request long time back to list the problems telangana is facing , their cause and possible solutions. Then we can discuss the need for a seperate state. No one posted any thing on that, does that indicate a lack of understanding of the seperate telangana issue?

HELLO GentleMan,

The comparision between Andhra & Telagana comes here because they ned seprate Telangana because they says that Andhra is well developed and Telagana was neglected. So I have the every right here to compare Andhra & Telangana Region here and the reason why Andhra is developed and vice versa.

DEvelopment is not all about Govt Contributing to your region, As a citizen of that region , that city, it also depends on what amount you r contributing to that city or that region. Development not comes from Govt fully, you should have non govt. organizations contributing in the development also.

DEvelopment is not all about INvestment of money, share knowledge, share culture 7become a grand ambasseder of your region wherever you go.

Let me tell you the best example about Guntur Medical College and Govt. Hospital ,

The NRI's from that region have contributed 300 crores for Govt.Hospital and medial collge and the result of it, Guntur Govt.General Hospital is the best in Coasta. You have seen people coming from so far from Prakasam, Krishna, Nellore, Kurnool, Cudapah, Khammamu, even from Vijag comes to Gutnur to join this Hospital.

Will is be done with out the Contribuiton of NRIs from Andhra REgion??

This is the point what I am raising here?

The people who born & brouhgt up in Telagana & Hyderabad , went to USA,UK & etc, setled there and who supports a seperate Telagana state here should understand this.

Contribute whatever you can to your region, put a hand in it's development , dont indulge in cheap politics saying that my region is not developed, and hence we need a seperate state.

If everybody doesnt contribute , your region wont be developed even you splits into diferent parts.

Contribution from every walk of life will only develop the region.

by **Mayavi Morpheus** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 2:05 am

Dude, you are doing no good to the cause by continuing what others have started. Its no secret why the politicians compare telangana to Andhra. As an educated you should understand that this is vote politics. That said, telangana is indeed backward. Let us explore the reasons for this backwardness and find solutions for this instead of fighting amongst ourselves. Mind you NRI's and NGO's are not the only reason why Andhra is developed. Infact I am not sure if Andhra is better than telangana or not.

by **Saradhi** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:25 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:Dude, you are doing no good to the cause by continuing what others have started. Its no secret why the politicians compare telangana to Andhra. As an educated you should understand that this is vote politics. That said, telangana is indeed backward. Let us explore the reasons for this backwardness and find solutions for this instead of fighting amongst ourselves. Mind you NRI's and NGO's are not the only reason why Andhra is developed. Infact I am not sure if Andhra is better than telangana or not.

Ofocurse there are also some regions in andhra that were not developed. I am not saying Andhra is fully developed and andhra is better than Telangana. Se Prakasam & Nellore districts, especially goto Markapuram region, they dont have water to drink, whaever water they have is very pollute, its all granite stones. But at the same time, they learned how to develope by using the available limited resources. Now Maarkapuram is the region who exports most of the granite stones not only to INdia , but to toher parts.

The point I am making is " Dont wait for the govt to come to develop your place. You can develope your own place if you have the will to do it. " Make your share of Contribution and then ask the Government to contribute more.

"Karnudu chaaavuku satha kooti kaaranaaalu annatlu" telangana region undevelopmentku booleeedu reasons. I am touching a point whihc nobody touched.

by **Saradhi** » Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:32 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:Dude, you are doing no good to the cause by continuing what others have started. Its no secret why the politicians compare telangana to Andhra. As an educated you should understand that this is vote politics. That said, telangana is indeed backward. Let us explore the reasons for this backwardness and find solutions for this instead of fighting amongst ourselves. Mind you NRI's and NGO's are not the only reason why Andhra is developed. Infact I am not sure if Andhra is better than telangana or not.

Hey Dude, fully read other's response before you respond. I never said NRI's and NGO's are the only reason why Andhra is developed.

They have their contribution.

The bottom line is you need contribution form all sides, be it govt,non-governemtal , political, non-political.

by **Mayavi Morpheus** » Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:10 am

Saradhi wrote:The people who born & brouhgt up in Telagana & Hyderabad , went to USA,UK & etc, setled there and who supports a seperate Telagana state here should understand this.

by **Saradhi** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:23 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
Saradhi wrote:The people who born & brouhgt up in Telagana & Hyderabad , went to USA,UK & etc, setled there and who supports a seperate Telagana state here should understand this.

HELLO MR.GentleMan,

Dont try to cut one of the statements.

Read the full post & try to understand the summary of it.

I never said NRI's and NGO's are the only reason why Andhra is developed.

They have their contribution.

The bottom line is you need contribution form all sides, be it govt,non-governemtal , political, non-political.

Thats what The people who born & brouhgt up in Telagana & Hyderabad , went to USA,UK & etc, setled there and who supports a seperate Telagana state here should understand this.

First ask them to contribute to their region and see whtehr the region will be developed or not.

Separate Telangana?