Should Telangana be separated?

[JaiTelangana]

The answers to your question is simple :
<br> First one they are selling there lands because they are getting prices morethan the market value. I thought you should have figured it out from the statements i made in my discussion. The problem with the regions in A.P is people in one region dont even marry from different caste forget about the region because they know that there will be practical problems after the marriage.
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<br>And the second question you were saying about the Andraites feeling superior than telangana , i will give you a simple example in the movie industry most of the actors(hero\'s) are from Andhra this is because they dont allow people from other regions to be hero\'s(Be practical in this statement). I have seen in Satyam computers if you are khamma u will definetely have an edge in getting the job why is this happening ? i can give many examples and khammas are basically from Andhra. Dont tell me that there is no talent among telangana people.
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<br>This seperate state wouldnot have raised but since BJP has split couple of states there is a kind of hope in telangana . I am not sure whether splitting the state would be good in the short run but it will be very very good in the long run that is after like 15 to 20 yrs.
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<br>Let me know if anyone needs more clarifications.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Thank you for the clarifications, but your answers only raise more questions.
<br>First you state that Telangana people are selling lands to Andhra \'cos they offer more price. But why are they offereing Higher price. To me, it only means that the lands are fertile or that Andhraites are stupid to buy unarable land for higher prices.
<br>BTW, you didnt anwer the core issue, why are telangana people selling their lands in the first place? Surely you wont sell your home just because some one is offering you a good money. And if u do so, u shouldnt complain.
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<br>About the second issue, I expected a better answer. Whatever reason you gave me doesnt make any sense. I dunno why Satyam computers gives importance to Khamma (even if they do so, its a caste problem but not race superiority issue as you seem to picture). AFAIK, Satyam owner Ramalinga raju is a Raju. I cant stress the word Raju any better, they are different from Khammas. Even if Satyam is following caste based recruitments it doesnt prove anything as it is a private company. I know scores of private businesses in Hyderabad owned by Gujaratis who dont employ telugu people, so what, they are \'private\' and not government instituitions.
<br>You also seem to indicate that Telangana people are not getting jobs in Satyam which is a ridiculous claim. The Satyam center at hyderabad has Large number of Telanagana Employees, including my Brother in law and a friend (reddy, FYI) of mine, both telanganites. So it doesnt prove Andhra race superiority claims.
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<br>Same thing goes for Heroes in Cine industry. Many actors are from Andhra, no doubt, but most producers are from Telangana. So, can Andhra people say that Telanganaites are racists? There is a difference between Casteism and racism (in the modern Indian context), I hope you understand this.
<br>How different are those castes to Reddy and velama castes of Telangana.
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<br>Finally your comparision of telangana to Chattisgarh and Uttaranchal is like comparing Apples to oranges. Chattisgarh and Uttarancahl have rich natural resources, yet neglected, so seperate state hood will only do good for thsoe states. Telangana is a different case in that it doesnt have any natural resources, industries, water resources. The only thing it has is warangal and Hyderabad. If Telangana seperates from Andhra and Rayalaseema it will become another bihar. We already have Naxallite problem coupled with modern from of Feudalism. There is disproportianate distribution of land in telangana compared to Andhra.
<br>When Telangana(erst while Nizams Hyderabad) was liberated, 3%(?) of people were holding more than 40% of land. The situation didnt improve even after 50 years (part of the reason why we see naxalism).
<br>So if Telangana seperates, we are the only one who lose. I dont see any benefits of a seperate state,, nor do the leaders ahve a vision. I am yet to see TRS or any Telangana party Agenda, what they plan to do with a seperate state, how they plan to improve water resources and decrease poverty. Without all these issues cleared, I dont understand what good a seperate state will do.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Quote:
<br>\"Our armed forces are very much active in practicing violence on its own citizens, so go figure\"
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<br>This is what I call half-arsed statements. Do you have any thing to prove that? Too much freedom is what you have, courtesy of the sacrifices of the very people whom u re criticizing.

[ZC]

Most of the electricity comes from Telangana (Ramagundam), so can sell to other states (Andhra & Rayalaseema). Warangal, the central location for Indian railways, can be developed further. deccan cotton soil is very fertile. There is Nagarjuna sagar. if the river connection project kicks of, Telangana will be more at an advantage. and then ofcourse, pochampali textiles, there are many others. I think Telangana has good resources !!

[JaiTelangana]

Hi I am not sure why u are not reffering to the things i have written before this , I never said telangana lands are worthless , may be they are not as fertile as Andhra lands but there are places where they are fertile and i have stressed the point that Adhraites are buying lands where water is surplus( i mean fertile). Telangana people are selling since they are poor mam. They are in urgent need of money.
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<br>I never said telangana people are not getting jobs in Satyam but andhra people have a certain edge in getting jobs in Satyam. You were saying it is a private company and they can do whatever they want then we can break there backs if they behave like
<br>that( they are in INDIA) and india is a secular nation. Why people are submissive to such type of things i dont understand u have given example of gujaratis and considered it to be acceptable which is shameful. Eventhough it is a private company they are paying taxes to the govt and they are seeking protection from the govt and they are operating in India .I hope u get what i am trying to tell you here.
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<br>I think u have a wrong impression about the natural resources in telangana . It has many natural resources, if the resources properly and enough funds are diverted Telangana will be a wealthy place which can happen only when telangana leaders are at the top of the political heirarchy which can happen with a seperate telangana state.If you are not clear you can mail me to my personal email address vmerugu@yahoo.com.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

L*M*A*O
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<br>Dude, do u even understand what u re saying?
<br>Telangana lands are fertile, but farmers are poor. Andhra lands are fertile, farmers are rich. Something is wrong here. Why are telangana farmers poor when their lands are fertile?
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<br>Post here when you figure that out. And when u re at that, try to figure out what a \'private company\' means.
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<br>And you want to know why Telangana is poor, read this:
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<br>\"The Nizam\'s whole palace was built on deep, deep cellars which were filled with gold and precious jewels. And one room would be full of emeralds. This is the story; how true it is, I don\'t know. And another would be full of diamonds, another would be full of rubies and so on, and this room full of gold. He was supposed to be the richest man in the world. \"
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<br>-Major Christopher York:
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<br>A British Army soldier posted in Hyderabad, excerpts from A passage to India - Running Your Little Empire .
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[Saradhi]

Forgive my ignorance, I donot have much knowledge on these issues, but two questions raised out of ur post. Would you take the trouble to answer my queries.
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<br>1. You said that Andhraites are settling in telangana regions where there is availability of water. But why are the telanganites selling their cultivable lands to andhraites? AFrom what u said I gather that people who own cultivable farms are generally richer than those owning unarable(?) lands. So why are they selling it? Are the andhraites using their political power to wrest the land from the poor telangana farmer?
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<br>2. Do Andhraites really fell superior to telanganites? In India I have heard abt caste system, religion differences and some people claim to be superior based on their caste etc, but I never heard of superiority by virtue of Accent! If this is the case, its time to teach those buggers a lesson. My info is woefull out of date. So please post some sources so that I can be well armed with info when faced by a Andhraite. By sources I mean reports like "Racist Andhraite denies Telanganite entry into restaurant"
<br>or Like " Race crimes on the rise - Bunch of andhra goons kill telanganites for drinking for their well, in Telangana District"
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<br>Much appreciate it.

Hi Mayavi,

If you are looking for stateemnts like "Racist Andhraite denies Telanganite entry into restaurant" and "Race crimes on the rise - Bunch of andhra goons kill telanganites for drinking for their well, in Telangana District", I am sorry you are wrong. :(



But instead I will tell you two incidents



1) A group of People led by Warangal district TRS prtesident have obstructed a Top Ranker from Nellore district when he came to join in Kakateeya University only because the top ranker doesnt belong to Telagana Region.



2) When Narayana Coaching Center from Nellore came to WArangal & Karimnagar to start EAMCET coaching centers and started recruting students, their representatives were beaten up badly and the final outcome , no EAMCAT centers in these cities.



These two happended in the beginning of this educational year in last July.



So now you decide you feel they are superior by virtue of Accent!

[Saradhi]

The answers to your question is simple :
<br> First one they are selling there lands because they are getting prices morethan the market value. I thought you should have figured it out from the statements i made in my discussion. The problem with the regions in A.P is people in one region dont even marry from different caste forget about the region because they know that there will be practical problems after the marriage.
<br>
<br>And the second question you were saying about the Andraites feeling superior than telangana , i will give you a simple example in the movie industry most of the actors(hero's) are from Andhra this is because they dont allow people from other regions to be hero's(Be practical in this statement). I have seen in Satyam computers if you are khamma u will definetely have an edge in getting the job why is this happening ? i can give many examples and khammas are basically from Andhra. Dont tell me that there is no talent among telangana people.
<br>
<br>This seperate state wouldnot have raised but since BJP has split couple of states there is a kind of hope in telangana . I am not sure whether splitting the state would be good in the short run but it will be very very good in the long run that is after like 15 to 20 yrs.
<br>
<br>Let me know if anyone needs more clarifications.

Private companies always have their own reservations and they follows their own set of rules & regulations formulated & changed from time to time by the managements. We need not worry about them.

Singhvi group who came from North settled here wont recruit any local people, 75% of the people from Vaartha & sanghvi group are North Indians.



Coming to Cinema INdustry, most of the heroes are from Andhra, but why no hero is coming from Telagana?? Think about it. If you have talent, you gets chance where you want.

An Indian became the mayor of a german City two times.



Are we more racists than Germans and nazis??