Drop Sachin from the Indian Cricket Team

by ZC » Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:00 pm

ha ha ha ha. Did u see how much he hit ? ha ha ha ha

by **Sahil** » Mon Oct 27, 2003 5:12 pm

I agree with Sandeep,we have lot of talent,but its not selected properly.And in many matches Sachin played selfish games

by **coolnut** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:42 am

we have to look towards the future so give him rest so that we can try out others

by **sandeep** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:55 pm

If ur positive u take the thing positive .Consider it as nation\'s problem and hitting for self,is it a right thing ,then what is the difference between us and pakistani cricket players who always play for thier own and lose cups for money. Think Well. if u questiones how much he hit, every bats man\'s job is to hit only, but not saving our team from defeat and making our own records and records that too with silly teams, haha i need to laugh at ur thinking.How sharp ur MrZC and mayagni .

by **Mayavi Morpheus** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:15 am

Sandeep, please learn net etiquette and try to adress others with the same name that they are using. How difficult is it for me to make pingilli to pagal?
 
 PS: Ignore if it was a typo.

by ZC » Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:17 am

poeple who cry will always cry, and people who complain will always complain.

by **coolnut** » Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:03 pm

laxman...kaif...mongia are all being left out because of sachin ..hez become old drop him..give chances to youngsters

by ZC » Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:05 pm

start two cricket teams for India. or each country should send no. of teams based on population.

by **coolnut** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 11:46 am

look what happened he scores 50 odd and then walks off wherez the responsibility???

by ZC » Mon Nov 03, 2003 12:36 pm

what do u mean by responsibility ? only he should hit 200 and others are all duck out? y not remove sehwag for his careless way of throwing his bat against everything . in other words guddi oopu.

by **neeraja** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 4:59 pm

Hi all.. what did the Great Sachin did in the previous match? 68 runs out.during the cruciall time... He is never a match winning guy,,,had he stayed a little longer and gathered 100 runs india would have certainly won against Aus.. it was the home ground for sachin.. i think he should be dropped... there is so much GAS take about him,
 Alright he is good at bad.. what where is the result.?? i think he should be dropped for a couple of matches then only h would be more serious.. Excuse me Sachin Fans, I am telling the facts.. if i were to be the selection committee. i would have done the same thing....

by **HAIL_sACHIN** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 2:21 am

WHAT.... DID SOMEBODY SAY DROP THE WORLDS GREATEST BATSMAN, DID ANYONE HERE SEE HIS SIX AGAINST PAKISTAN DURING THE WORLDCUP. WHO IS THE REASON FOR INDIA EVEN COMPETING IN CRICKET FOR THE LAST 10 YRS. YES IT IS MASTER BLASTER. SERIOUSLY, NEONE WHO HAS AN OUNCE OF COMMON SENSE WILL NEVER UTTER THOSE WORDS. THIS COUTRY IS INDEBTED TO HIM.

by **Mayavi Morpheus** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 4:36 am

Neeraja, I watched a Telugu Movie starring Chalam, Lambadolla Ramadasu (very old movie, not released in theatres).
 The hero Chalam is the only son a Zamindaar who is lost in tirunallu during his child hood and is raised by Gypsies/Lambadies. He grows up to be a wise man and the only educated person among the illiterate Gypsies. One day he rescues a ill child from the clutches of a superstitious excorcist and saves her life by giving her medicine. The Villages hail him as God, and call him Devudayya...
 As time passes by, he starts a small medical clinic and help several villages, and treats children. He is elevated to gods status and people start worshipping him, he rejects his dietification. He improves the life style of the villagers and educates many villagers, and fights the oppression of the Land Lords.
 The movie shows how a single man can change the entire community and shows several instances of his face off with the rich and powerfull.
 As the movie reaches climax, our hero marries a beautiful lass from the rich family against the family wishes. The Landlord seeks revenge and in the process the sister of our hero\'s servant gets killed. The illiterate villagers ask our hero to bring her back to life as he is GOD. But can he do that? No. When he explains the same, the ignorant villagers become restless and blame him for not bringin her back to life, though he has powers. And they kill Him out of ignorance. Its only after his death that they realize that he is not god and that he too is a human being like the rest of them.
 End of Story.
 Whats the relevance to Sachin?

by **Andhraite** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:45 am

I\'m looking at this boards for days, but i didn\'t reply b\'coz , one who has even a little bit of common sense & cricketing knowledge, then they will never think of this ...
 
 Neeraja, i donot know how much knowledge u have in cricket ... it is utter foolishness to drop him ...
 
 SACHIN is the first player in INDIAN team to have an INDIAN flag on his helmet ... When u say sachin never performs when needed, why don\'t take the situation when INDIA is batting first and won the match after scoring more than 250 even 275 ... out of which sachin scoring 140 odd runs as match winning innings ... does match winning performance implies only to the sides who r chasing ...
 
 TEST CRICKET
 Total: 107 173 16 8882 217 201* 193 56.57 31 36 10
 Didn\'t lose: 76 111 16 6445 217 201* 193 67.84 23 27 4
 (Situation: Mat Inn NO Runs HS1 HS2 HS3 Ave 100\'s 50\'s 0\'s)
 
 ODI CRICKET
 Total: 317 308 31 12435 186* 152 146 44.89 35 63 14
 Didn\'t lose: 177 168 30 8207 186* 152 146 59.47 28 39 5
 (Situation: Mat Inn NO Runs HS1 HS2 HS3 Ave 100\'s 50\'s 0\'s)
 
 If u see the stats above out of his 31 test 100\'s & 36 50\'s - 23 100\'s & 27 50\'s came when INDIA didn\'t lose.
 
 Out of his 35 ODI 100\'s & 63 50\'s - 28 100\'s & 39 50\'s came when INDIA didn\'t lose.
 
 SO, how can u say that he played for himself when INDIA didn\'t lose almost every time he performed ... if u r not satisfied with his performance, for sure u will not be satisified with any other cricketer\'s performance in the world. 12,500 runs in ODI, out of which more than 8200 came when INDIA didn\'t lose ... and out of almost 9000 runs in Tests 6500 runs came when INDIA didn\'t lose ... 70% of his runs came when INDIA didn\'t lose ...
 
 All the player r paid equally, CRICKET is not a individual game, its a team game, all 11 players have to contribute equally ... why blaming sachin alone, sourav didn\'t perform well for past 2 yrs, sehwag duck twice in arow in on-going series, rahul too- didn\'t help for any better,but i\'m not blaming them b\'coz they r not machines, to perform every time they play.they r also humans. Without sachin INDIA had no chance of getting into finals of WC2003 ...
 
 BTW, BCCI is implementing contract system, that goes like this, they take 12-14 players under contract for 1yr... and at the end of the year, they will grade them for that year long performance(A,B or C)... and they r paid accoring to that, around Rs.65000 for match for grade A, Rs40,000 for B & Rs.25,000 for C (This r not exact figures, but sure around that numbers) So, for all those who feel sachin plays for self, nothing to worry, if he wants more money he has to perform, performance in that particular year matters, not wheather he is the best last year, nothing like that....
 
 PLEASE NOTE:INDIA is playing 6 & 7 batsmen in Tests & ODIs respectively ... So, anyone who thinks that sachin must be dropped from the team, must first see wheather other 5-6 batsmen r performing better than him or not ... if not, then first think abt dropping them before dropping sachin !!!

by ZC » Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:06 am

Well said MM: and Ms. Neeraja: is 68 not enough? how much did others hit? y do u expect the team to be a one man army ? only Sachin should hit 100 runs. Attitude problem among Indians. One man works and others just rest and cry when that one man takes a break. U want one man to be in the drivers seat while the remaining people sleep happily ? this basically speaks y Indians dont perform well in atheletics? what is India on the world atheletics stage? nothing. this basic fact explains everything. there is individuality and everyone wants to see teh responsibility on others shoulders. very stupid attitude.

by ZC » Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:10 am

that should be, there is no individual effort .......in the place of...... individuality ;-)

by **rainmaker** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 12:57 pm

VISH DOESNT KNOW WHAT CRICKET IS. OR PERHAPS HE\'S DEMENTED, COZ ANY CRICKET FAN CAN TELL THAT SACHIN IS THE BEST.
 
 WE WOULDNT HAVE REACHED THE DAMNED WORLD CUP FINAL IF NOT FOR SACHIN.
 
 the steve waugh VISH is talking about, has a lower batting average, and a lower strike rate than sachin. statistics are everything, they tell you how much a batsman can be expected to score in a match! steve waugh can fail in all unimportant games, and yet his team will reach the final, because there are 5 other batsmen.
 
 oh why the hell am i trying to convince an igorant fella? i\'ll just say this : \" remove sachin tendulkars runs from india\'s matches in the world cup, and try to imagine how we would have won the league games, and reached the final\"
 
 and sachin didnt FAIL in the world cup final. he got out while trying to achieve the target of 8 RUNS PER OVER. have you forgotten that our bowlers gave away 360 odd runs? i would like to see steve waugh (hayden, gilchrist or even lara) chasing a target of 360 in 50 overs, and winning the match.
 
 thanks, that will be all.. heheeheh someone drive some sense into the guy who started this post!

by **coolnut** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 3:05 pm

hello cricket doesnt run on previous statistice we dont want individula performers we want team men like Rahul Dravid,Steve waugh ,Javed Miandad ,Brian Lara...though not individually considered real great ..they always played when the team needed the,m...sachin is juat a SHOW MAN..thats all a show mans place is in FILS...SACHIN quit cricket join films....he has never taken Indian to victory.....may be in the past...but its only Historian that live in the past not circketers....

by ZC » Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:13 pm

coolnut: ur contradicting ur own statement. u dont want individual performers, but want the team to perform.good. that means everyone one, atleast the first 4 or 5 batsmen should hit 50 runs each and each bowler should take atleast one wicket. and then u want one person to win the match and that u expect from Sachin and want to remove him coz hes not winning matches for India. i dont understand ur logic.

by **coolnut** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:20 pm

lets take a poll
 DROP sachin...retain him

by **ariesky** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:49 pm

this one\'s for coolnut.
 
 U DONT KNOW WHAT CRICKET IS, COZ ANY CRICKET FAN CAN TELL THAT SACHIN IS THE BEST.
 
 WE WOULDNT HAVE REACHED THE DAMNED WORLD CUP FINAL IF NOT FOR SACHIN.
 
 the steve waughs and laras have lower batting averages than sachin. statistics are everything, they tell you how much a batsman can be expected to score in a match! steve waugh can fail in all unimportant games, and yet his team will reach the final, because there are 5 other batsmen.
 
 oh why the hell am i trying to convince an igorant fella? i\'ll just say this : \" remove sachin tendulkars runs from india\'s matches in the world cup, and try to imagine how we would have won the league games, and reached the final\"
 
 and sachin didnt FAIL in the world cup final. he got out while trying to achieve the target of 8 RUNS PER OVER. have you forgotten that our bowlers gave away 360 odd runs? i would like to see steve waugh (hayden, gilchrist or even lara) chasing a target of 360 in 50 overs, and winning the match.
 
 thanks, that will be all.. heheeheh someone drive some sense into the guy who started this post!

by **coolnut** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:21 pm

yeah !!! right tailenders score better than him out for 14 today...lol;;;;;;boss hez there to perform and not make a guest appearence

by ZC » Thu Nov 06, 2003 5:15 pm

coolnut: before him, i think Yuvraj should go. 14 is better than a duck !! lets wait for the series to finish and see who has the worst average and then remove him. just wait.

by **ariesky** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:13 pm

some englightment for the ignorant critics of sachin:
 
 here are sachins scores in this series -
 48 vs NZ
 100 vs AUS
 69 vs AUS
 14 vs NZ
 AVERAGE = 57.75
 
 name any indian batsman with a higher average in this series. only then you have a right to post something like \"drop sachin\".

by **ariesky** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:16 pm

i made a mistake in my \"enlightment\" post. sachins average is 77.00 and not 57.75 ... because he was 48 not out in the 1st match.
 
 i\'m waiting for the critics to reply

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