Separate Telangana?

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Continuing from the above post, it\'s disturbing to see people like who don\'t just propose a new state, but also insist on kicking out the Andhraites. In fact, they don\'t want the development of Telangana but they only want to grab others\' properties in the name of a seperate Telangana. God forbid, if a seperate Telangana is created all Andhraites will be looted by people. This mentalitiy arises from either unemployment or politicall motivation. Heck, even the TRS chief didnt ask for Andhraites to leave Hyderabad.
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Some people are worse than the Pakistanis. They declared themselves an Islamic republic, yet allow a minority Hindu population. But people like JTM intend to kick out every one - Marwaris, Punjabis, Sikhs, Gujjus, Hyderabadis who speak a different accent and everyone who they fear could give them competition. Bloody hell...

[JPM]

Yo! That\'s OK, calm down now. I never told you to move out and, also, who am I to say that?

[Anand]

Let me clear up few things about the MS head. In the context of how Andhraites contributed in developing Hyderabad, I said if we don\'t recognize their contribution and start talking about separate statehood crap, he MIGHT pack his bags and head for Vizag. It\'s very sad that people are getting a wrong notion of my message. Would be great if we don\'t drag him anymore.
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I re-read my earlier postings seems fullhyderabad.com has modified some of the messages. Anyone of you noticed this with your postings? Also, we haven\'t still heard from fullhyderabad.com why they removed Rambabu Potluri\'s earlier post. His points were very interesting and informative. It\'s unfortunate that fullhyderabad.com removed it from the list!

[vij]

Will Chadrababu Baidu as CM, any day, compare to Chandrasekar of TRS? Mind you, I am a Hyderabadi. I feel the reason they are asking for a separate state now is because people seem to be becoming more and more aware of the actual reality in this information age and have started causing problems for the Feudal system existing in the Telangana area. Hence, to divert the angst of people, some rich landlords have started supporting this separate Telangana movement (this is a hypothesis but mind you without the help of the rich you cannot form a party overnight like TRS). Rayalaseema is also backward but why not fight for it? Because, people still are fighting among themselves. Hence, there is no need for a new state. But keep those reasons aside. Will anyone from Hyderabad or Telanagana prefer Naidu to Chandrasekar?

[Vij]

Oops! Goofed up the post due to rush. Wanted to ask if anyone from Telangana or Hyderabad prefers Chandrasekar to Naidu. Of course, my answer is NO.

[Venky]

Well said buddy! I too urge for unity. Concentrate on the developmental activities for the entire state and come up with a good plan to make Andhra Pradesh a Model State for the entire World rather than breaking it up into pieces. We are now in the developed world. These politicians just need some small problem to create a separate piece of land and create a ministry of 25 to rule over the poor junta and fill there pockets. BEWARE PEOPLE! Don\'t let these crappy guys divide our motherland like this, else we may end up nowhere and with no identity.

[Alwayshyderabadi]

Hey common guys! Stop worrying about Telangana, Rayalseema, Andhra, etc., etc. You are known as Telugus primarily. All of us are the envy of many other communities. AP is best as a united state, not the bread crums which these digusted politicians are trying to make of it. Wake up, Telugu people! Too much knowledge, greed, etc. gets you nowhere. Enjoy our great culture. Don\'t become like the politicians!

[Rambabu]

Very true, let us get on.

[FROM THE HEART OF TELANGANA]

Yes we are born Telugu. So, no need to worry about a separate Telangana, Rayalaseema, blah, blah, blah! If we are positive, we can think of ourselves as human beings. So there should be no separate India and no separate Pakistan. If we think why Telangana is in such backward state, we realize that it\’s because of the selfishness of the Andhra people. Once my friend (from Andhra) said to me that they were a great people from AP as they were all in the film industry and there was no single person from Telangana. That person was boasting about Andhra people being beautiful and intelligent. At that time I replied to him, “Let\’s see. The British (whites) occupied India in the past century. They never went to Telangana. All they concentrated on was the Coastal and Andhra areas. At that time they also enjoyed the ladies and a new generation of beautiful people came about, which now you say are in the film industry. I\'m not criticizing any one. I\'m just speaking about the film stars who say they are from great Andhra. There is this separate Telangana feeling just because of the regional feelings created by the Andhraites.

[Kulcha Hyderabadi]

Now, who are these Andhraites???

[Sekhar]

I think we should rename our state from Andhra Pradesh to Telangana Pradesh and that would solve many issues .

[Sekhar]

And keep the state intact...

[Z C]

AnTeRa Pradesh .

[From the heart of Andhra]

If I knew that there were people like you in Telangana (who believe that Andhraites were raped by Britishers but Telanganites were spared) then I would have been the first person to ask for a separate Andhra. In fact, Telangana has become a major economic hurdle for Andhra. It\'s hindering Andhras growth. I declare my full support to the Telangana movement and will try to rally support from all the forums that I participate in.

[jammer]

Hey guys! Take it easy... I think people are becoming too emotional or personal on these issues. I do not mean to hurt anyone nor do I want to see a separate state or anything. I have few simple things to share with you. We need to think logically:
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1. Any group of people shifting or migrating to a new city will cause inconvenience to the original residents in some way or the other.
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2. Suppose a family of 4 (wife, husband, two kids) arrive from Andhra to Hyderabad. They will occupy two jobs. Kids will take seats in the school, so two less seats in the school. So, as you can see this family is practically not able to do anything to develop the city.
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3. However, there is one aspect that these kids may study and become doctors and help in the medical field.
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4. But, when you just start claiming that Andhraites have developed Hyderabad, it does not make sense at all.
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5. The only thing good I have noticed is that they may have contributed in educational and medical areas.
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6. So we need to see things in a broad-minded way and not hurt each other. At the same time, we cannot blame one particular group. I hope you will agree with me this time.

[JustaLittleUnwell]

Jammer, let me take the example of the very same family that moved in from outside (irrespective of their origin). Obviously, it has to compete with the locals for jobs and school admissions. In view of such competition, the jobs get staffed with employees (who may be locals or outsiders) who are more competent and, hence, more efficient. Imagine what this could do to the economy of Hyderabad? Similarly, imagine what comptetion in schools could do to the standard of children passing out? We need more competition from the outside so that we could grow as a city, be recognized as a huge market by the various service providers and product manufacturers, and become a globally strong community with state-of-the-art infrastructure. Needless to mention, there would be creation of jobs and wealth which wouldn\'t have happened in the absence of competition.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

You are right, Jammer. If a family moves to Hyderabad then the locals lose jobs to the \"outsiders\" or \"foreigners\". But why is the family moving to Hyderabad? It is not very difficult to figure out. Hyderabad is the capital of Andhra Pradesh. So, naturally there will be Govt. jobs. Naturally the population and the service sector are large. So it attracts private business. All this is happening because Hyderabad is the CAPITAL. And who does the Govt. represent? The people, right? They pay taxes. So they have a share in the government. Why do you want to restrict all the jobs to Telanganites when the Govt. represents the whole of Andhra Pradesh, not just Telangana. Show me one city/town/village in Telangana, other than Hyderabad, which has a Andhra population that is not in Govt jobs. At the same time can you gaurantee me that there are no Telanganites in Govt. offices of Andhra pradesh? After all, the Govt. doesn\'t discriminate based on region or accent.
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The point I am trying to make here is that Telanganites are right in asking for seperate statehood. They have their share of problems and they can blame the Govt. for not taking up developmental projects in this region. But, blaming few people from Andhra who are in Hyderabad for loss of jobs (as it is the capital city) is ridiculous at best.

[FROM THE HEART OF TELANGANA]

I\'m sorry for my last post which hurted some set of Andhraites but I\'m not sorry for my opinion for a seperate Telangana. And, well if you say Telangana had been an economic hurdle for Andhra Pradesh, I can explain why it is even though three main rivers Krishna, Godavari and Musi flow form Telangana. It cannot use it. Andhra is developing just because of the crops that grow in their area (at the cost of lives of many Telangana farmers who commit suicide for losing their crops with out water). If Telangana efficiently uses its water resourses no one else can lead the race for development as Telangana can!

[Z C]

Few years from now, people of the city of Hyderabad will start committing suicide along with the farmers of Telangana \'cos there won\'t be water to drink and temperatures will reach unbearable limits. Llong live Hyderabad and hope you guys are enjoying life in the furnace! ISB, you want international students to study at 50C? Ha ha ha ha! And with power cuts? Why are companies not coming to AP even when Naidu is trying so hard? No need to blow your trumpet guys, look at the harsh realities!

[Anand]

It\'s been a while since didn\'t posted a message though I have been actively looking at these boards. Interesting views, but most them are repeated, accusations and questions like:
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Why people migrate to Hyderabad - Even though some of the active participants explained this very clearly in their earlier posts.
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Accusing Telangana\'s backwardness on non-Telanganites especially on coastal Andhra people, instead of identifying/talking on the root cause!
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I am surprised that none of these accusers are not saying a single word against Marri Chenna Reddy or PV Narshima Rao who could have done something better for Telanagana. To the best of my knowledge, Chenna Reddy was the ring leader of the early separate Telanagana agitation. So how come he didn\'t ask or do something while he was the Chief Minister? Now the new ring leader Mr. Chandrashekar is searching for his left over(s) and glorifying them after neglecting them for so many years. In simple words, a bunch of selfish politicians are taking the innocent Telangana people for a ride.

[sunny]

I am very sad to see even the educated people of Telengana region are falling in the trap of the dirty politicians and hating Non-Telengana people. They are blaming Andhra people and leaders for the underdevelopment of Telengana. They say that Andhra has looted them. In fact, it is people of Andhra and Rayalaseema who contributed for the development of Hyderabad through their huge investments after independence. Hyderabad really developed a lot under TDP’s rule. Initially, NTR developed Hyderabad a lot and now CBN has elevated this city to International standards. Incidentally, both are not from Telengana. Though AP was under the rule of many well-known Telengana leaders (like PV Narasimhar Rao, Channa Reddy, Angaiah, Sanjeeviah, etc.) for majority of the time, they did not do any thing for Hyderabad or Telengana.
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My dear friends! Please look in to the actual reasons for the underdevelopment of Telengana. The main reason is this region was under Nizam’s rule for hundreds of years and Nizams are the main culprits. They are well known for their own luxuries and completely destroying the life of a common man. The proof is the complete region that was under Nizam’s rule falls under backward area. This includes North Karnataka districts (Gulbarga, Bijapur, Raichur, etc..) and Southern Maharastra. The present state of these regions is worse than our Telengana. Do you blame Andha people for this also? Other areas that were not under Nizam’s rule in Karnataka, AP and Maharastra (like Coastal AP which was under Madras presidency, Mysore kingdom, Kingdoms of Marathas, etc.) are prosperous.
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After independence this backward region is gradually developing. It takes one-generation of our efforts just to raise our family\'s financial status (say from low class to middle class). Just think how much time it takes for the development of a complete region. It takes a long time for that and it is happening.
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My dear telengana people! If you think that Hyderabad is everything and demand for a separate Telengana state just looking at the present developed state of Hyderabad, you are digging your own grave. In future, Hyderabad people under the leadership of Owasi family/MIM will demand for separate state and ask you guys also to quit Hyderabad. Then what will you do? Where is the limit for this regionalism? Please do not fall in the trap of dirty politicians. Come in to the real world and teach a lesson to politicians like KCR, etc.
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If you call for a separate state the losers are again Telengana people only. It will become exactly like the present Bihar. I do not think it will show much negative impact on Coastal AP. They need not contribute their money (Taxes) for the development of backward regions. They know about the hard work and its fruits. They can invest their money & efforts and easily develop other cities like Vizag, Kakinada, Vijayawada, Guntur, Nellore, Tirupathi, Anantapur, Kurnool, etc.
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One of our friends of this discussion has made very harsh comments about the people of Andhra. I agree his Andhra friend’s attitude (saying that they are very beautiful/handsome, intelligent, etc.) is not correct. But thinking great about themselves is not as bad as using dirty language on other’s background. This guy has said that Andhra people are beautiful because British screwed their women.
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My dear friend, can you show a single similarity (like skin colour, features, food habits, dressing, etc.) between Andhra people and British? Their language or accent is not mixed with any other language. They have their own food habits, culture, dressing style, etc., which not mixed. That proves your words are baseless. On the other side, the language & accent of Telegana is completely mixed with Urdu and colloquial Hindi. There are many similarities between Hyderabadi, Arabian and Moghlai foods. The dressing style of some people (Kurtha pyjama) and culture is again similar to North Indian or Muslim style. Many Hyderabadis have relatives in Pakistan. As per your dirty theory and reasoning, does it mean that you are related to Nizams, his army and other Muslim gangs? Are you going to eat your words now? I do not want to hurt the feelings of Telengana people and there is no offence in this. I AM SORRY for using the above rude statement.
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My dear educated Telengana friends! Look in to the facts, think on ground realities and educate your innocent people. Save them from the cheap tricks of dirty politicians who just care for their name and power. Let us not envy each other’s progress. Let us work together and work for the real development of the state. Throwing mud on each other is useless and a waste of time.

[ZC]

tippu, comments plz

[IdontDiscriminate]

Why the f*** are these crazy, god forsaken, retarded, worthless, good for nothing people fighting about andhras and telanganas?it\'s all horse shit.How gullible can people can be.no wonder the muslims wanted a pakistan in 1947 when people from the same state with the same faith and the same culture fight over petty issues.

[tipu]

Hi,ZC,I have similar views like ZC,for the suffering of TELENGANA people.Sunny comming to ur point u said that,Andhra people have done so much development in Telengana area,by investing huge amounts,if they have invested huge amounts,they got benefits for that,and they took that profits to their Andra and developed their own areas.Infact it will be good if I say,RICH ANDHRAS USED TELENGANA LOBOUR for their factories and for their own benefit.U told their were no development in the Telengana area in Nizams period,most of the present day water resourses were constructed in Nizams period,any way leave Nizam topic.Sunny u tell how many of the water projects are build in Telengana and Andhra during last 50 years,and whose land has become more and more fertile nad whose land is in femiene,due to lack of water.

[JPM]

Didn\'t you move your MS Head to Vizag yet?