Is it wrong being a Non-Vegetarian?

[Radha]

Bornhyderabadi,
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Thanks for your comments. Yes, at least now they can understand the facts, and those who believe in God will understand the rules of nature.

[Ramesh]

I already sad that the ratio between non-vegetarians\' and vegetarian\'s sins is a very big number (if not infinite). That itself provides room for your point. Of course, my perspective is that veggies are no sinners at all. But, still I give some room for non-veggies in my perspective and accept that may be the veggies are also doing some harm. But at the end you need to logically accept (irrespective of the \"perspective\") that you are committing a bigger crime. If one goes by one\'s own perspectives, there\'s no need to argue at all.

[bornhyderabadi]

That\'s very much true if one sticks to ones prespective. Then there is no discussion. But, if you open Pandora\'s box of logic, (you say we (Non-vegetraians) are bigger sinners and I already admitted to that), vegetarians are sinners too.
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PS: Read the posting by Radha.

[Ramesh]

First of all, I regret to say that when there\'s not much to say, everything will seem like a \"Pandora\'s box\". I stick to my point that even veggies maybe doing some harm. But it\'s inescapable. If you can show some alternative, I am sure all those morally sound will follow that \'ahimsa\' path.
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God gave the human beings a very fabulous thing called mind. You can use it anyway. Either the path of Gandhi/Mother Teresa or that of Laden. Just because God gave you those choices, if you say that both are correct, I don\'t know how to respond.

[bornhyderabadi]

Don\'t even think that I don\'t have anything to say. I already said that I can keep going on this issue for ever. If you think it\'s escapable for us to eat to survive I agree, but you think being veggie is the right way out. Then I think being non-vegeteraian is equally right. I don\'t see a difference.
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I know, man has a very developed brain. So until someone brainy invents something inorganic to eat so that we all are saved from our sins, let us be a part of the game and not point fingers. If you point one towards others then you are pointing three towards yourself.

[Salim]

One life, no second chance. Don\'t think and eat. Just eat. But eat clean food. Coming to the point of veg or non veg. What I feel is, when everyone is made out of blood and flesh why some people are vegetarians. It\'s just the matter of taste and choice. Go ahead with your taste and eat what you like but eat good and clean and healthy food.

[Ramesh]

It\'s good to see that you have a lot to say. But you are not able to say anything solid against my point that non-veggies are committing quite a lot no. of times more the sins than the veggies. If you have a lot to say, then try to contradict me (in a proper way). Just saying both are equally sinful is as good as saying nothing. I spoke with a broad mind and gave some room for you and accepted that veggies are also committing a fraction of the sin of the non-veggies (since it\'s inevitable). Again, I am not saying that they are not committing any sin. But I think you got my point.
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And Salim, what you are saying would be absolutely correct once we get out of this debate.

[bornhyderabadi]

What makes you think I am not saying much? I have repeatedly said that I agree to commiting sin (bigger) by being non-vegetarian (just to please you), but I would stick to my notion that vegetarins are not innocent.
As I told before, it\'s a personal perception to decide which is a bigger sin. As long as both are sins it does not matter to me which is bigger. You have admitted it (being vegetarian) to be sin that\'s what matters to me.

[Ramesh]

Of course, I admitted that the sin committed by veggies is a small fraction of that of the non-veggies, though veggies are innocent in my view. You have no other go but to ignore the magnitude of the sin that you (non-veggies) are committing. I said that the sin committed by non-veggies is more than 100 times that of veggies and you have got nothing whatsoever to contradict that statement.
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You can think whatever you want to. You can equate a slap to a murder; nobody can stop you.

[sinidhu!!]

I like the Chinese style, when u eat animals, eat everything on earth.......i dont understand the logic in not eating the Cow/Pig when u are happily killing other creatures (goat,fish, hen etc)

shut up and eat what tastes good.. do u realize what ur sayin..???????/





ur sayin i should eat cockroachess... who are u to say somethin as disgustable as this for im very sure u dont eat chinese cockro**ches every day .. 4 lunch and dinner urself ...practice and den preach loosar

[Lucifer]

Since someone bumped this thread, I thought I should post on it.



Personally, and non-personally as well, I found the thread hillarious. How someone could say that veggies are committing a crime that is a fraction of what the non-veggies are committing is completely beyond the realms of human comprehension.



PS: On a really personal note now, I feel sad for the veggies for they just have no idea what they are missing out on.

PPS: Hoping this will light a fuse in a few veggies' minds and we could all go on to have an online brawl.

[mark (red meat eater)]

yeah, and you'd be a mass murderer every time you use antiseptics in your home, think of all the innocent microbes and bacteria! this thread was dumb 2 years ago and it hasn't matured with age. most vegetarians i know are weak and feeble minded tree-hugging hippies who will be first up against the wall etc.

[Xeno]

yeah, and you'd be a mass murderer every time you use antiseptics in your home, think of all the innocent microbes and bacteria! this thread was dumb 2 years ago and it hasn't matured with age. most vegetarians i know are weak and feeble minded tree-hugging hippies who will be first up against the wall etc.

If the sense of taking away life is the only thing that keeps vegeterians vegeterian then what about the plants when they cut the plants for vegetablets etc,its a well known fact that they have life ,they emit sounds below the audible range and thats why we wont hear them talking or saying "please dont kill me, dont kill me please" .I think its even bigger a sin to kill something more feeble like a plant and take away its life thinking its lifeless,,



Everthought why humans have the teeth like they have ,they are designed like that to be used for eating both vegetables and meat, by deciding to stay vegetarian and not stopping there and propagating Vegetarianism and insinuating and implying that nonvegetarians are commiting a sin the vegetarins are actually going against the evolution and the basic human insticnt..

[Jaan]

yeah, and you'd be a mass murderer every time you use antiseptics in your home, think of all the innocent microbes and bacteria! this thread was dumb 2 years ago and it hasn't matured with age. most vegetarians i know are weak and feeble minded tree-hugging hippies who will be first up against the wall etc.

HEY!

I am not weak, or feeble minded nor a tree hugging hippie. Does that mean all the meat-eaters are prone to anger and violent, and commit criminal acts? No, I just was not brought up with meat on my dinner plate, and thats how I grew up...meany mean mark...how could you say that?!



Jaan

[Jaan]

Since someone bumped this thread, I thought I should post on it.

PS: On a really personal note now, I feel sad for the veggies for they just have no idea what they are missing out on.
PPS: Hoping this will light a fuse in a few veggies' minds and we could all go on to have an online brawl.

I tried chewing on a chicken nugget once and it almost choked me! Because I just could not swallow it... I swear! Its a nightmare to try meats, so I gave up on it. At the end of the day, as long as I am getting my daily value of proteins and vitamins I am happy



Jaan

[lonewolf]

I tried chewing on a chicken nugget once and it almost choked me!

Thats because you don't know how to eat chicken nuggets.

[Xeno]

I tried chewing on a chicken nugget once and it almost choked me!
Jaan

You think you got choked just becuase it was chicken ,may be you tried to eat too much too soon, start out by eating a little and increase your intake of chicken gradually until you get to be a normal meat eating human....

[san]

Haven't read the thread but the title just so demands a post. Yes, it is wrong to be a non-veggie. So all you out there enjoying the tandooris and what not, stop it right now.



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heehee there's a hidden agenda

[lonewolf]

I ran into this Save-The-Chicken volunteer for PETA near the White House last Saturday and had a quality talk with him. I ended up taking some of his vegetarian recipes and free DVDs.



I again ran into this guy a few days ago opposite the KFC beside my office He was standing right outside the entrance and handing out anti-KFC pamphlets to KFC customers. I got more veggie and fake chicken recipes from him. (My gujju roomie is going to love me for the recipes)



The next time I meet this PETA activist, I'm going to offer him a chicken burger b-)

[lonewolf]

And we yindoos associated religion to cow (lol) so that no one who doesnt understand the above logic kills the cow.

I have this Nepali Brahmin friend who would always cook beef curry for the potlucks during our youth meetings in Kansas. The first time she got her beef curry, I was shocked! Later, she told me that nowhere in the Hindu books is it mentioned that Hindus should not eat beef, and that Indian Hindus included the "do not eat beef" centuries back. The issue of eating beef is probably more of a cultural issue, not a religious issue. My mother told me that as long as I stay under her roof, I can't touch beef or pork

[blabbering]

nothing rong in being a non vegetarian....



only vegetarians miss somehing in life

[Wisecrack]

Well.I dont see anything wrong in being a Non-vegetarian.Its the way they are brought up or their personnal choice.I was born a vegetarian and am happy being one.And am more than willing to "miss that something in life" which all ye guys have been talking of. I am no Maneka Gandhi ,but I wish animals are treated with much more respect and affection.

[lonewolf]

Honestly, who can resist this one

I'm going to cook it tomorrow.



Mediterranean Roast Chicken







Ingredients



1.6 kg chicken, giblets removed

1 onion, peeled

finely grated peel of 1/2 lemon

1 tablespoon lemon juice

25g soft butter

1 teaspoon dried oregano

1 teaspoon dried rosemary

1 teaspoon dried thyme

black pepper

1 clove garlic, crushed

fresh mixed herbs, to garnish



* Preheat oven to 180ºC. Rinse and dry the chicken. Put onion in the cavity. Mix together lemon peel, lemon juice and butter. Stir in the dried herbs, black pepper and garlic.

* Using your fingertips, gently loosen the chicken skin from the breast. Rub two-thirds of the herb butter mixture under the skin.

* Rub the remaining butter mixture all over the chicken. Put the chicken onto a rack in a roasting pan.

* Roast for 1 hour 20 minutes, basting occasionally, until the juices run clear when the thickest part of the chicken is pierced with a skewer or sharp knife. Put on a serving platter, garnish with fresh herbs and serve.



SERVING SUGGESTION:

Serve the chicken hot with roast potatoes and seasonal vegetables. Alternatively, leave the chicken to cool completely and serve with a green salad.

[KK]

Some of you might have already touched upon these facts yet...

most of the people dont eat dogs/cats for the obvious reason that they have been most popular pets. The same argument goes for hindus for not slotting cows. I dont own/pet a cow but I AVOID eating beef for the simple reason that major part of my community does not appreciate it. However, I ended up eating beef couple of times and I find lamb & shrimp more tastier.

Otherwise, I feel it's natural to eat animals and its not barbarian. If you believe in not killing living beings crap, do you live upto the expectations of Jainism? If yes, I admire you. If not, I dont have patience for your preachings.

Also, I dont understand the fact that "hindus not eating beef" should be religion influenced when its merely a cultural ascept.

[mark]

Since someone bumped this thread, I thought I should post on it.

PS: On a really personal note now, I feel sad for the veggies for they just have no idea what they are missing out on.
PPS: Hoping this will light a fuse in a few veggies' minds and we could all go on to have an online brawl.

I tried chewing on a chicken nugget once and it almost choked me! Because I just could not swallow it... I swear! Its a nightmare to try meats, so I gave up on it. At the end of the day, as long as I am getting my daily value of proteins and vitamins I am happy

Jaan

see Jaan? your deviant diet has made you so weak you are no longer able to eat proper food and must now subsist on a diet of vegetables. that's exactly what the vegetables want! by eating fruit and veg you're actually helping spread the seed of that fruit/veg thus helping them with their sexual life cycle! you don't want to be helping plants have sex at mealtimes do you? no of course not. I advise you to begin with something easier than a chicken nugget (veggie's could injure their delicate little bodies by starting with meat they aren't ready for) my recommendation is the smallest scrapping of tandoori chicken, added to a full veg meal. gradually increase the dosage until you can just about taste the chicken. soon you'll be back to an evolutionarally normal diet, eating everything under the sun with more legs than us. mmmmmm, horse burger..