Separate Telangana?

by **Z C** » Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:24 pm

Yes. even separate Rayalaseema is required. i think.

by **Anand** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:52 am

It\'s very unfortunate to see a bunch of losers from different political parties asking for separate state hood (Telangana). Separate state hood for Telangana does not make any sense. Do they (TRS) have any vision for the state they are dreaming of? My gut feeling is they are asking for it keeping in view Hyderabad. I am not sure even if they have such minimal vision and even if they have it, it would be absolutely INSANE to think Hyderabad as part of Telangana based on geographical location BECAUSE people from different parts of AP have contributed to Hyderabad progress and development.
 
They (TRS and its supporters like A. Narendra are big time losers from Old City) want to FOOL Telaganites for their own benefits. In the last meeting or rally Mr. Chandrashekhar Rao announced if TRS wins he would make a person from backward class a Chief Minister. Who the heck is to decide? Before making such idiotic promises he should have set an example by adopting a child from the backward class community! I bet his wife/family would drive him out of the house. Just to clear things, I am not AGAINST any community. I always felt or feel that for Telganana or any part of Andhra Pradesh prosperity can be achieved only if they stay united.

by **Learner** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 3:08 pm

Well said Anand. These selfish politicians will not stop at anything just to grab power. We all have seen this game time and again. Beware.

by **bornhyderabadi** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:18 pm

Hey guys, I am not for or against Telangana as a new state. It does not matter to me, as long as we make progress. But one thing is clear. Telangana is the most backward area in Andhra Pradesh, and its so because successive governments had leaders from Andhra in powerful positions and ensured that all benefits went to Andhra. I was born in Hyderabad and lived all my life here. So I can easily see the difference and the callious attitude towards Telangana. Just visit any village in Andhra and one in telangana and you will see the difference.
 
Not all the land in Andhra became fertile in a day. They have become so on account of snatching the rights of the people of Telangana and Ralayseema. All the big rivers flow equally through Telangana and Ralayseema but you see that most benefits are enjoyed by people of Andhra and people of Telangana are withering.
 
It\'s high time now. If people think it\'s better to be united then fine, develop all the regions equally or you cannot escape the divide that everyone wants to avoid.

by **Anand** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 9:21 pm

Before blaming someone or some region let\'s do some home work here.
 
 
Tanguturi Prakasam Panthulu (01.10.1953 - 15.11.1954)
 
President\'s Rule (15.11.1954 - 28.03.1955)
 
Sri Bezawada Gopala Reddy (28.03.1955 - 31.01.1956)
 
HYDERABAD STATE
 
Dr.Burgula Ramakrishna Rao (06.03.1952 - 31.10.1956)
 
ANDHRA PRADESH STATE
 
 
Sri Neelam Sanjeeva Reddy (01.11.1956 - 10.01.1960)
 
Sri Damodaram Sanjivayya (11.01.1960 - 11.03.1962)
 
Sri Neelam Sanjeeva Reddy (12.03.1962 - 28.02.1964)
 
Sri Kasu Brahmananda Reddy (29.02.1964 - 29.09.1971)
 
Sri P V Narasimha Rao (30.09.1971 - 18.01.1973)
 
President\'s Rule (18.01.1973 - 10.12.1973)
 
Sri Jalagam Vengala Rao (11.12.1973 - 05.03.1078)
 
Dr. Marri Chenna Reddy (06.03.1978 - 10.10.1980)
 
Sri Tanguturi Anjaiah (11.10.1980 - 24.02.1982)
 
Sri Bhavanam Venkatram Reddy (24.02.1982 - 20.09.1982)
 
Sri Kotla Vijaybhaskar Reddy (20.09.1982 - 08.01.1983)
 
Sri Nandamuri Taraka Rama Rao (NTR) (09.01.1983 - 16.08.1984)
 
Sri Nadendla Bhaskara Rao (16.09.1984 - 15.10.1984)
 
Sri Nandamuri Taraka Rama Rao (NTR) (16.10.1984 - 22.11.1984)
 
Care-taker Government (22.11.1984 - 08.03.1985)
 
Sri Nandamuri Taraka Rama Rao (NTR) (09.03.1985 - 02.12.1989)
 
Dr. Marri Chenna Reddy (03.12.1989 - 17.12.1990)
 
Sri Nedurumalli Janardhan Reddy (17.12.1990 - 08.10.1992)
 
Sri Kotla Vijayabhaskar Reddy (09.10.1992 - 12.12.1994)
 
Sri Nandamuri Taraka Rama Rao (NTR) (12.12.1994 - 31.08.1995)
 
Sri Naara Chandra Babu Naidu (01.09.1995 - 11.10.1999)
 
Sri Naara Chandra Babu Naidu (11.10.1999 - Till Date )
 
 
So which CM helped Andhara flourish? Other then NT Rama Rao most of them are from either Rayalseema or Telangana. In simple terms if Guajarat or Maharashtra are a more porgressive state does it mean they progressed by backstabbing other states of India?
 
 
If we look at most of the major and successful industries in or around Hyderabad they are established by non-Telanganites (ex: Satyam Comps, Nagarjuna Industries, GVK, Reddy Labs). If they (Andhra leaders) really want to exploit Telangana and benefit Andhrathe so called Andhra leaders would have convinced or made sure that none of these got established in Hyderabad! Don\'t BUY or fall in Telanagana leader’s propaganda CRAP.
 
 
Because of our incapability or lack of competitiveness we are just blaming Andhraites. This is similar to Germans blaming Jews.

by **jammer** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 9:31 pm

Can you tell me why these people (our great Andhraites) can\'t prove their worth in their own towns and villages? Why do they have to come all the way to Hyderabad and increase the traffic problems as well as the pollution here?

by **Anand** » Tue Sep 02, 2003 10:24 pm

Because we (Telaganites) survived starvation (as a result of snatching our rights on water), now their sole aim is to kill us by spreading pollution so that they can use Hyderabad for further pollution testing. But you don\'t have to worry. Go to north of India. There you\'ll come across white mountains called Himalayas. Settle down there. There is no pollution, plenty of water... Before posting these illogical questions please think twice! By the way, it seems you are very concerned about POLLUTION. How do you commute?

by **Mayavi Morpheus** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 4:43 am

People from Andhra come to Hyderabad because it\'s the capital of Andhra Pradesh, and not just of Telangana area. If the capital were Kurnool, like in pre AP times, then people would have gone to Kurnool and not to Hyderabad. Get it into your head before making such comments.
 
What happens if tomorrow Delhites start thinkin on these lines and kickout Telugu people from Delhi, and what will happen if the same notion is carried by Mumbaites, and the people of Chennai? In today\'s times when we should be looking for integrating different regions of India while maintaining the economic and political boundaries, some politicians are trying to divide it based on accent and religion to satisfy their thirst for power.

by **Anand** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 5:24 am

Well said Mayavi Morphius, and nice analysis on why they came or are coming to Hyderabad. It\'s very sad that people don\'t think beyond traffic problems or pollution. I can go on how Andhraites made Hyderabad a better place to live in. That\'s the reason I said in my first posting that no one person or a region can claim Hyderabad as a part of it because people from different regions have contributed to it\'s development. It\'s very sad that someone here is considering development as pollution or over population.

by **bornhyderabadi** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 12:35 pm

People of Andhra are comming to Hyderabad for their own prosperity and in the process contributing a fraction of it to its development. It would have still developed had they not come!
 
Andhra people think they are superior. Are they born with a pair of horns to think so?

by **Anand** » Wed Sep 03, 2003 8:14 pm

FYI: Business does not run on CHARITY. If you think Bill Gates started Microsoft (MS) keeping aside his prosperity or benefits then you are in FOOLS\' WORLD. Also current head of MS India is from Vizag. He played a key role in bringing MS to Hyderabad. Soon he will wrap MS and move to Vizakh. Yeah, if they wouldn’t have invested and helped in Hyderabad progress, we would have still been known ONLY for IRANI chai and BRIYANI. Please re-read Mayavi Morpheous\' earlier posting.

by **Mayavi Morpheus** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 1:57 am

One thing I should like to make clear is that HYDERABAD IS DEVELOPED NOT BECAUSE OF ANDHRAITES, NOT BECAUSE ITS IN TELANGANA, BUT BECAUSE ITS THE CAPITAL OF AP. (Sorry for using caps, but I had to drive the point home).
 
Tell me one thing, how many Andhraites or people from Raayalaseema live in Telangana areas other than Hyderabad? How many live in Nalgonda, Adilabad, Warangal? Ever thought of asking yourself this question?
 
I am not saying that Hdyerabad is developed by Andhraites. It\'s unfair to say so. At the same time it\'s unfair to criticize Andhraites for living in Hyderabad. The in fighting leads to nothing but a division of AP (This in fighting is the sole reason for 200 years of slavery under the Raj) and creation of two states and two CM\'s, two Assemblies, two cabinets and nothing more. Today we\'ll ask for seperate a Telangana. Tomorrow we will ask for seperate country. When is it going to stop?
 
Instead of dividing a state we should think of developing the Telangana area. Think of how to bring water to the dry farms. It\'s not Andhra\'s fault that they have two rivers flowing. Neither is it Telanganas fault for not having any major rivers flowing through it, and hence the lack of agri produce. Think of ways around it. We can develop underground water resources to improve productivity, establish new industries, etc. Elect leaders who take care of development instead of embezzling money.
 
Regards.

by **Anand** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 4:13 am

Mayavi Morpheus, I really appreciate your comments. Keep up your positive approach! There are lots of things everyone, including myself, can learn from your postings. I am sorry to say this, but I get pissed off when people post ridiculous questions/comments.

by **bornhydrerabadi** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:12 pm

Your guy from Vizag might be MS Head, India (even that is doubtful) but he won\'t be heading MS. Bill Gates and MS are no fools just to listen to an individual and set up a office somewhere. They do their R&D and depending on the potential decide. I am not involving Andhrites into this discussion. I have very good friends from there and appereciate their efforts. This post is about Telanagna and my point is very clear. Telanagana is very backward compared to Andhra and there definetly has to be a reason. I don\'t agree with MM that there are no rivers flowing through Telangana. Both Krishna and Godavari flow through Telanagna. My friend who hails from Bengal and lives here feels it\'s the best city to live in, for no one imposes their values on you, unlike other places like Chennai where you are forced to follow their ways. I have inumerable examples to prove this. The fact that so many Adhraites and people from other regions have setteled here and become successful proves my point. Hydrerabad has more than 400 years of tradition and history which not many cities can boast of. It lived with its head high even under the British Rule.

by MM » Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:28 pm

\"Head high in the air during British Rule\" - well quoted, my friend!!!
 
 
Do you know why britishers divided India (India & Pakistan & Bangladesh) into many pieces before leaving India? They didn\'t want to see India as a power house in this region. They exploited all our wealth & natural resources. And from where did Mohammad Ali Jinnah come into the picture in the climax?
 
 
And do you know , that Hyderabad was the last state to join the Indian Union after independence? Nizam even insisted on joining Pak. And, then the Indian Govt. said that they will conquer Hyderabad if he is not willing to join the Indian terrority. Then he left for Australia and gave Hyderabad to India. That says the Hyderabadi ruler was not acutally for India. So definitely Britishers will have no probs with him.

by **Anand** » Thu Sep 04, 2003 10:35 pm

The point I was, or I am, trying to explain is that it\'s not ONLY Hyderbadis but people from different parts of AP also who have contributed to Hyderabad\'s development, and MM clearly pointed out they did this because it\'s a capital city. I absolutely agree with him. I do not think that they polluted the city, or that we could have done better without their involvement or that they diverted river waters. This is the CRAP I have been hearing from TRS leaders, who are FOOLING the people with this kind of unrealistic propaganda.
 
 
When someone is NOT happy or does not agree with a political party\'s views he QUITS and starts a new political party. He hunts for unhappy politicians(Dave Goud) and tries to sell his evil idea(s), but the sad part is that people who have some reasoning power also fall for their false propaganda. So, in short, do we NEED a separate state? NO!
 
 
PS: Head of MS India is from Vizag and his name is Srini Koppula. He was with MS for a while in Seattle. Please search in google for his recent interviews and reports which appeared in some of the leading news papers. There are many incidents I have witnesses in the IT industry where people can influence the companies into setting up shops in a certain city or working with or assigning work to some companies.

by **Andhraite** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:30 pm

Two main rivers may be flowing through Telangana but the fact is, that the rivers flow downstream into the Bay of Bengal. So, even if you constuct a dam, it\'s of no use. You can\'t make the water go up-stream. The same river in coastal districts forms into a delta before joining the sea. As you know, a delta is a good region for cultivation.

by **Mayavi Morpehus** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:56 pm

BH, AFAIK Godavari flow through Adilabad and Basar but the district is Naxal infested. I don\'t know about the Krishna (never been outside Hyderabad). Why the waters are not being utilised is what beats me.
 
 
Anyway, the Andhra region is fertile due to the River Deltas. Both the Krishna and Godavari deltas are fertile lands, and there are huge oil reserves in K-G basin. So are Rayalseema and Ratanal Seema. Telangana is the less fortunate region. Infertile lands, no major canal systems and rampant feudalism all contribute to the lack of growth [feudalism led to naxalism].
 
 
However, it doesn\'t call for the seperation of the state as a seperate Telangana will have no revenue sources owing to lack of resources, agri produce (which at the moment IMO are being offset by Andhra and more importantly Rayalaseema), ports or any other infrastructure and most importantly taxes from already poor people.
 
 
I think that instead of carving a seperate state, the politicians should concentrate on development projects. With the seperate Telangana movement gaining momentum, the politicians fear losing votes. So, they may announce some development projects.
 
 
The way to go is for joint development. Instead of parting ways and carving seperate states, we should progress as one state. It\'s foolish to think that there is no poverty in Andhra or Rayalseemsa. People are poor in those areas too, but they are blessed with some fertile lands (this is the bone of contention for Telanganites).
 
 
Applyin the theory of reverse psychology, what will happen if Andhra and Rayalseema start a new movement for seperate states blaming Telangana for hampering their progress? Not a good situation for People of AP and also India as a whole, as other states (south Indian) may ask for a seperate country as BIMARU states (Bihar, Maharashtra, Rajasthan and UP) are laggards, socially and economically, and hampering their progress! Fair enough, if we take Telangana an example. The next logical step would be a seperate state of Andhra, Tamil Nadu and Karnataka. Each lead by modern tech savvy CM\'s who treat other states as laggards and progress hamperers. INFIGHTING ONLY LEADS TO ECONOMIC GLOOM. KASHMIR AND SEVEN SISERS ARE GOOD EXAMPLE. PUNJAB, ON THE OTHER HAND, FREE OF TERRORRISM, IS THE BEST STATE IN INDIA WITH THE HIGHEST PER CAPITA INCOME. ASK YOURSELF, WHY IS IT SO?

by **bornhyderabadi** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 11:47 am

No man is bigger than the region/place. It has got its own significance. Anhdra has its significance and so have Telangana and Hydrabad. What\'s important is that they are all in AP and that adds to its glory. Being born and brought up in Hydrabad, I feel that this region is not restricting the development of Telangana compared to that of Andhra. There could be many factors,and in my pervious article I mentioned clearly that representatives from this region had neglected it for years. Being such a large city,Hydrerabad needs a permanent water solution and water from the Nagarjunasagar dam is the solution. But why do you think it\'s been pending for almost 17 years? B\'cos farmers in this region are against it. When this region is a rain shadow region it needs irrigation projects for its development. If such projects are opposed for reasons that it will stop inflow in the lower areas then there is no solution to this problem. You just want these guys to suffer.
 
 
As I said earlier I don\'t care if a new state is formed or not, but all the regions must be developed equally. My personal opinion on this is that AP must remain united and develop on all fronts.
 
And I do not think that people\'s migration is the cause of pollution and traffic. I have been to many places all over the world and have lived in bigger cities. They were also formed from migration of people from different regions/sects/countries, but not only are they pollution free, they have sensible traffic. They are very advanced at the same time. Hyderabad needs to take a leaf out of their charter and learn to grow as a sensible cosmo.

by **Mayavi Morpheus** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:20 pm

Relieved to see your response. Everyone should realize that Telangana\'s problems are not gonna be solved by blaming Andhra or Andhraites living in Hyderabad.
 
 
Hyderabad water problems can be solved by bringing Krishna water into Hydrabad. The Govt. has aquired land on city outskirts (Auto Nagar) to build a huge reservoir. Construction work has already begun, but there are other difficulties in diverting water. Technological and political challenges, and the lack of Govt. will to solve the water scarcity of the City.
 
 
But Krishna waters only solve the city\'s problem. What about the rest of Telangana? Alternatives have to be sought like harnesing rain water, improving underground water level and drilling bore wells. Also Telangana should concentrate more on industries than agriculture. That\'s one way of solving the problem.
 
PS: I dont want to see two Andhra and Telangana states which in future fight for water like TN and Karnataka did last year. They suck.

by **Anand** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 9:32 pm

Dear fullhyderabad.com,
 
 
I don\'t see Rambabu Potluri\'s post.

by **Ramesh.** » Mon Sep 08, 2003 11:06 pm

Absolutely unnecessary and even foolish.

by **Rambabu Potluri** » Tue Sep 09, 2003 10:45 pm

Hello Mr.Anand,
 
 
I find it quiet amusing. My views were posted for two days and then taken off. I wonder why. I mailed to fullhyd.com but there has been no response!
 
 
Rambabu.

by **JPM** » Thu Sep 11, 2003 4:21 pm

Some are scared that they are gonna lose Hyderabad to Telangana if a separate state is formed. Don\'t you worry about that! First of all, the term \"Andhraites\" doesn\'t refer only to people living in coastal Andhra Pradesh. You may want to refer to them as \"Coastal Andhraites\". You seem to be understanding the problem of why Telangana is underdeveloped. That\'s right - lack of fertile lands. If they hadn\'t, they would have been as developed as coastal AP and Hyderabad would have been the business capital of India. It\'s good to hear that your MS Head is going to move his company (Microsoft, of course!) to Vizag. I gotta go, I do not have time to post a lot of messages.

by **Mayavi Morpheus** » Fri Sep 12, 2003 12:18 am

OK, so if I argue for a united Andhra Pradesh, I become an Andhraite. Great!

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