Hyderabad or 'Hype'rabad?

[Harry]

Hyderabad has grown tremendously over the past few years - or has it? Is the growth there for everyone to see or is it just hype?

[Kulcha Hyderabadi]

Is it not visible?

[Z C]

Compared with others, not much. Every politician speaks of money being spent in crores and the development that has been done. But most of the time, the amount spent/development achieved is peanuts compared to what is actually necessary. Absolute units don\'t give a good picture. And Naidu is very adept in using them.

[shaikh]

If you drive, or go on scooter from Karawan to Asif Nagar to Mallepalli to Managal Haat, Nampalli, Maozam Jahi Market, Osman Gunj, Charminaar, Begum Bazar, Yakutpura, Chanchal Guda or most of the old city, you will notice that these areas are poorly maintained or neglected. They have no quality schools or clinics or system. Things have been left to deteriorate or die.

[Soumya Sarkar]

Shaik bhai is absolutely right in his point. The thing of note is that Naidu and his cronies have showcased the newer parts of Hyderabad to the world as a model city at the cost of the Old City, which is in urgent need for all-round development.

[modern hyderabadi]

But Soumyaji, the old city too has its own elected member. I mean, it\'s MLA, Corporator, etc., etc. These people are to be blamed because they don\'t come out and do their bit. Rather, they come out to seek support just to stay in power and leave the poor, uneducated people there to rot ...which is the case in all old parts of any city not our Hyderabad alone!

[Ramesh.]

Absolutely right, Modern Hyderabadi. I don\'t know why the entire world is appreciating Naidu, even to the extent of giving him certificates for the kind of development he has brought to the state, and city especially, and when other states are feeling jealous that they don\'t have the kind of CM we have, some people are not able to see the development at all? At least try to appreciate the good work. Where was Hyderabad 6 or 7 years ago? No one was aware whether a city by that name existed.
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The old city people have to blame their local leaders as well as those creating hurdles in development, not the CM whose only aim is to develop the city.
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It\'s not Hyperabad. It\'s Hyderabad. And also Cyberabad in the making.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

But what about the 54,000 crores of external debt of the state? It was around 10,000 crores or even less before Naidu came inot power! Can you believe it? The state was recently warned that it should introduce reforms else it will be bankrupt. That\'s a huge amount of money and I dont see considerable development. All the money is spent on Hyderabad and other areas are neglected, even in Hyderabad the development is hyped.

[modern hyderabadi]

Hello Ramesh. Good to find your views as progressive as our city itself. I ask all ppl like Saumya, morpheus, etc. who don,t look at the reality of development and rise in the standard of living of the average Hyderabadi to go out & find the situation in other so called metro cities of the debt free states. There is no use blabbering about the city with a false imagination. As for the debt, most of the city residents are confident in our CM\'s ability and as such he is the most PROGRESSIVE CM this country ever had. Unlike the socialist suckers who are still ruling (fooling) many other states!

[shaikh]

Hi Soumya, thanks for your understanding. I think we need to invite PC or David Copperfield to erase or remodel these areas, right before our eyes!!!

[spammer]

This is for Mayavi Morpheus.
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I consider myself well versed in economics, my major. To understand this I need you to look at it from the macro economic level.
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Correct me if I am wrong about this - This state had little or no business oriented infrastructure a decade ago. By this I mean reliable roads, ports, security, management and at the cost of sounding cheesy... vision.
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Out of the money being spent, I conservatively estimate that we can see about 30% on the surface, the latter of the investment going to infrastructure that cannot be seen when we lead our self contained lives. However there are reliable sources that show what is being done.
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Most successful businesses (even extremely high turnover businesses) have massive loans, that are used to expand the efficency and profit of the company.
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Business loans must not be seen in the same light as personal loans, because the art of business is making more money from the given amount of money. Personal loans, are not used for income generation, making them redundant and a burden.
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A small example - The recent road network improvement in the state (expanding two lane highways to four-lane) and removal of speed breakers and at the same time improving safety, would save the state 20 crores per annum, in fuel, insurance, lives and transported goods prices. Savings such as these will not show up, but will make a huge difference in efficiency and will drive inflation down.
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In short, more investment - more development - higher efficency - higher revenue - ability to pay off the loans, while keeping the fringe benefits.
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P.S. If you plan to reply or contest data in this message, please state reliable sources that I can refer to.
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Thanks for reading this.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

I am no economist nor do I have any knowledge of mircro-macro economics. All I do is read newpapers that report growth and I look at economic growth indicators and GDP of individual states and I don\'t see AP leading in any of the growth indicators.
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When I am talking about growth, I am not talking about Hyderabad alone, but the whole of Andhra Pradesh. Even if we consider the development of Hyderabad, the development is not proportional to the money spent, factoring in corruption.
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AP more or less has no manufacturing base, it has lost badly to TN and Karnataka in attracting FDI and FII\'s. There is no investment in the state, inspite of the tax sops that Naidu is offering to these companies. Chennai has attracted most of the auto manufacturers and component manufacturers. Bangalore attracts all the IT companies inspite of the Hitec hype of Naidu. There are some companies that are investing in Hyderabad but compared to Bangalore, given the Hyderabad Hitec hype, it\'s peanuts.
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AP is very slow in utilising the CRF - Central Road Funds, allocated to the state to lay roads to small villages. The example you gave about four-laning roads is a Central Govt. Project called the Golden Quad. and has nothing to do with Babu.
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But I give credit to Naidu where it is deserved. That is power reforms, the Power Distribution Co. of AP, APTRANSCO is now working efficiently but more has to be done. There are several other policy reforms and minor things in governance and such things, but they dont contribute to development.
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PS: Given the state of AP politics, Naidu is better than any other Congressi ass. Hope he gets re-elected and atleast in his third term lets hope we get to see some real reforms.

[jammer]

We need to stop-block-detour Naidu, for him get out of the dictator psyche (and I am best attitude). He thinks he is too smart. Let him be in opposition for a term at least.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

What\'s the alternative? Who is a capable leader? The Congress leaders have their hands full with their infighting. BJP is not strong and they don\'t have any good leader. Even if they have a good leader nobody wants AP to go the Gujarat way.

[Anand]

Check out: Volkswagen may locate plant in Vizag SEZ
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http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2003/09/03/stories/2003090302210100.htm

[Mayavi Morpheus]

VW is looking at Vizag, Kochi and Chennai.
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Anyway we need more SEZ\'s. Vizag is on its way to becoming the next Singapore (may be in 20 years). The city is already beautified by developing the Beach road and part of the Golden quad, 80 KM stretch being finished.
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We need hyderabad to be more organized, with good infrastructure and good roads. Hopefully, the Outer Ring Road project will be sanctioned (108 KM road going around Hyderabad connecting Shamshabad, Miyapur, Auto Nagar, etc.) and NSEW (North South, East, West) corridor completed in two years. With the Intl airport coming up, Shamshabad will be a developed area (too bad we\'ll lose all the grape yards) but the city needs to expand radially. We need more housing projects on the lines of Singapore Housing and Sahara Housing.

[Rambabu Potluri]

Dear Mr.Spammer,
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This is in reply to your response to \'Hyperabad\'. As you have said that you are a student of Economics I decided to respond. Most of the views expressed by others are correct either with the knowledge of Economics or without it.
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1. You feel that our CM is doing well, he is progressive. Then why is the development so lopsided?
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2. How many industries have come up that generate employment to the common man. You are talking about only IT.
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3. You talk about infrastructure development. Can you state specifically what are the developments? Only certain arterial roads have been developed in Hyderabad. Does Hyderabad start with Begumpet road and end with Madhapur?
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4. Have you seen and experienced other civic amenities? I do not have the space to go into the details. Ask the residents of AP (Except IT employees and employers)
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5. Do you know that we would be having power cut\'s of about 12 hrs at the minimum without the support of BJP at the center? I shudder to think what would happen if the Congress is in power at the Center? The villages any how do not have power for more than half a day.
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6. What is the situation regarding the most important element of life... WATER? The less said the better. Has our great CM made any efforts to ease the acute water shortage throughout the state.
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7. He made a grand drama by inviting the eminent social worker Mr. Anna Hazare when there was a downpour in 2000, half of Hyderabad was flooded... Did he take any measures to tap the rain water? Kindly do not give me examples of water harvesting pits. It is well known that they are useful only under certain circumstances. He has been lucky that whenever the situation got tough the monsoon rescued him!!!
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8. Our great CM has been systematically denuding the greenery in the name of development. Construction of flyovers with faulty design that they are not useful as they should have been.
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9. He constructed stadiums by cutting trees that were over 80-100 years old in Narayanguda for the National Games.
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10. Winning medals by importing players from other states just for the games... you call this encouraging the right talent?
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11. What stadiums did we have to produce great names in sports like Pataudi, Abid Ali, Jaisimha and Azharuddin in cricket, Karnam Malleshwari in weighlifting, Humpy and Krishna in chess to name a few Pataudi and Azharuddin were contenders for the greatest Indian cricketer of the 20th century. Pataudi is undoubtedly the gratest captain of India and Azharuddin one of the finest batsmen the world has produced. I can go on and on.
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12. Have you gone to the villages and seen the pitiable condition of the villagers.
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13. Do you know that our hospitals do not have proper equipment to treat the patients.
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14. Do you that he has cleverly handed over the Tirupati Hospital to the TTD to manage so that the State Govt. need not bear the expenditure. There was a time when Doctors were not paid salaries for months together.
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15. Just go to the medical colleges and find out whether the medicos are being paid stipends on time.
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16. I can go on and on but the medium is not sufficient to cover all aspects.
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17. You say that you are a student of Economics. Did you take notice of what one of the greatest economists of India Dr.Rangarajan had said just a few weeks back? Well he has warned the Govt. of severe consequences if they do not do something on war footing to put it briefly and this man is no other than who was Governor of our state for 5 long years. He should know better than you and I!!! I am sure Dr. Rangarajan is more knowledgable than you and I.
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18. There is no harm in borrowing money as long it is put to constructive use and the returns are guranteed so that the money can be repaid in due course. We are borrowing money to repay debts. 8 years is too long a time to show results.
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19. Last but not the least. I am trying to rope in some of the great economists for a debate on the state of AP economy. If I reveal the names, your eyes will start rolling. They require a lot of funds. I am trying to generate it and you will know once I am ready.
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It is very difficult to express myself in full perspective and cover all the points. May be some other time.
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(Excuse me for any spelling mistakes.)

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