Is it wrong being a Non-Vegetarian?

[bornhyderabadi]

I always think about this topic, I don\'t get this stupid arguement that being Non-vegetarian you are killing a living being. If that is the case even vegetable and trees have life, its been proved that even plants have feelings. Then how is it justifiable in eating vegetarian diet when you are killing a living being? I would like to know your comments?

[Z C]

I like the Chinese style, when u eat animals, eat everything on earth.......i dont understand the logic in not eating the Cow/Pig when u are happily killing other creatures (goat,fish, hen etc)

[bornhyderabadi]

ZC, I fully agree with you.

[raghu]

How about eco-friendly for an answer? You do realize that animals do not just show up as meat, right. They have to be fed, raised. Instead of cycling grains through animals for meat, the vegetarian way is to eat the grains ourselves. Could make the food problem a lot easier to solve. Check out http://www.goveg.com and a whole slew of vegetarian and vegan sites. I agree with the \"no beef/pork\" argument being stupid part.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

It was Jagadish chandra bose that dicovered that plants have life. Until then (early 19 th century) it was thought that plants are non;living things.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Its not chinese, but koreans who eat everything that moves.
<br>Anyway, I have an explanation for not eating cows (dunno abt pigs) its Milk/ghee/dahi/slew of sweets etc. So instead of killing a cow and losing all these benefits associated with a live cow its better to substitute its meat with Lamb/hen/fish etc, which are not of use for human existence.
<br>And we yindoos associated religion to cow (lol) so that no one who doesnt understand the above logic kills the cow.

[Z C]

It news to me that Koreans eat everything, i thought people of Guangdong province in Southern China eat everything, half of the Chinese i know are from Guangdong !!

[Andhraite]

Arey yaar , even chinese eat everything , almost all my classmates r from china ...

[bornhyderabadi]

I know animals just don\'t show up as meat out of nowhere, like any other living beings they need food and nutrition and they get it by eating what is their natural diet. If they eat up any grains, they are not doing so at our(humans) expense.Moreover who asked them to feed grains, as far as I know only chickens are fed grains and that to jowar which is not consumed in much quantity by humans. And it again is our choice what we feed them if left alone chickens would not eat grains but eat worms and other stuff, when it comes to goat/pig/cow... they eat plants/grass.. and other natural vegetation which is easily available. In many counries including India these live stocks are feed with grass or plants which are left after harvesting grains out of them, so its more effective recycling method and ecofriendly too.
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[Z C]

The question shud be \"is killing animals-wrong ?\". YES/No. u see...in Ramayana, Lord Rama shoots an arrow at a Deer killing it/him, which brought him trouble. So killing animals brings bad luck. I love non-veg. Chicken Fry-Zindabad!! Fish Head-Zindabad !! Lamb Brain-Zindabad !! Beef-Steak Zindabad !! It seems that i have a lot of bad luck associated with me

[b.]

yaar ZC.. ghodha agar ghaans se yaari karega to phir khaega kya??

[Z C]

Well said B, the supreme court recently gave a verdict that, the pharmaceutical companies neednt specify the origin of the drug (animal or plant) for life saving drugs. All those stringent Veggies may not want to go to doctor when they are dying coz the drug may actually be from a COW/PIG. I will be very surprised if u say \"chaltha hai\"

[neeraja]

Hi BornHyderabad.
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<br>Animals have 5 senses, which plants and fruits do not have.. though they live,,even after you pluck a brinjal or tomato or any vegatable it lives until its cooked, so there is no harm in killing them and eathing them up.. while animals it different,, you snatch away their lives and more over you eat the dead body of the animal... which could possibly give some allergy if not cooked well.
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<br>Even human being flesh would be good to eat..so can we go knocking of people...........???

[Z C]

My friends can make little bit of the bones and muscles of rats/mice/rabbits in their labs....... In the future they may even make the general animals flesh in lab, but the problem is they cost a lot, if costs come down, u can prepare a goat meat in lab, which actually doesnt belong to a live animal, would Veggies eat this coz therez absolutely no life involved ?

[Andhraite]

This is the reply to saying its written in this book , that book , that it is wrong eating meat ---There is nothing like don\'t eat meat in Ramayana or Gita or Quran or Bible ...ok !!!
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<br>This is the reply tosay why only chicken , mutton, fish , but not other meat ... I still believe our ancestors r most intelligent peple in wotld , its amazing to kow that likes of Aryabatta & all found the infinity formaulae 1000 back ... Latesh research by australian scientists showed that doing sunbath in the morning is good for the body ... but , we did it in the name of Sun-God ... like that ... what i meant to say , the reason of the action done by our ancestors may be wrong , but the actions done by our ancestors r good for health .... if u think abt this more , i feel that our ancestors made this supersitions to make their children to follow their actions instead of arguing with them .... so , our ancestors ate only chicken , fish & mutton ... so , i feel that this r the good nutrients for our body , than compared to other animals , Japanese scientists said that chicken has the least fat content among all the meat ... so this says that chicken is more nutritious than other meat ...
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<br>This reply is to killing a life to have a meal --- (THIS IS A DIALOGUE IN TAMIL FILM) Hello, neeraja , u r a girl(obviously, can say from the name) U r feeling bad abt killing a animal to have a meal,(so for the time being say , taking one life is one sin)so when i have a chicken biryani, i have committed one sin... But , when u r wearing Patu sarees, Banaras silk saree , khuridars ,u r killing 10000\'s of lives of slik worms for one single piece of cloth, that means u r doing 10000 sins by wearing a saree or a khuridar ... Is that not a BIG DEAL !!! Is that justified then ... Definitely not... come\'n whats ur say for this ... pls come up with good arguement ... <b>(vegis) </b>Ok!!!

[bornhyderabadi]

Neeraja, you don\'t count on #of senses one has, you just tell me don\'t you agree plants have life yes or no? If no then there is no discussion, if \"yes\" then your explaination that just because animals have more senses then plants, so its ok to kill plants is not digestable to me.
<br>Just because animals can make loud noise when killed and plants die a silent death beacuse they can\'t express does not give anybody right to justify their acts.
<br>Your reasoning on eating \"deadbodies\" of animals is same as above you see an dead animals body and you can\'t see a dead plants body right? its pure double standards.
<br>I agree with you on one count that meat if not cooked properly can cause infection and maybe allergy, but does it not hold the same with plants, try eating potato raw and I know of many plants(edible) that often cause allergies.

[bornhyderabadi]

one more point Neeraja, about eating humans, I read it somewhere that the tastiest meat among all is human meat, so its not a bad idea eating one ) Just kidding.
<br>No animal or plant eats one from its own race/breed/family... even under adverse conditions and with their limited intellect they can make a decision against it. But I am not sure with more intellect and highly developed thought process, I can say same about humans cause its the very intellect that can prompt them to do things unimaginable, so in a similar situation as said above i,e in adverse conditions with derth of food humans can resort to kill and eat humans(friends,relatives...). I saw a movie where a group of people are stranded on a deserted island after a plane crash, after few days when they don\'t get anything to eat they start eating each other, moreover I have read there used to be tribes which used to eat humans and that was not too long ago.

[raghu]

You are probably right. I am not very familiar with meat raising techniques in India. but you should definitely try to know about the meat consumption in the west (espcially america) and the amount of food that is raised to feed the cattle. You can find detailed stats on sites like goveg.com (or do a google search for vegetrianism). The amount of meat consumed in India is a small % of the total food consumed. But once it reaches the proportions in west, bye bye environment. It is not sustainable.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Well, there are some animals which eat their own cubs when they go hungry,cant imitate them can we \'eh?
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[Mayavi Morpheus.]

Anywayz there are a sect of sadhus living somewhere in Himalayas who often turn up in Haridwar during Kumbh, these people eat human flesh!!! Yes u heard it right Human flesh, not cooked human meat but half burnt corpses that flow down in the ganga [mukthi]. That is the last stage of vyragyam for those folks, they actually start out eating $hit and end with eating human flesh!

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Ok, this is what I got from google search
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<br>\"Even more horrid habits are attributed to Aghoris: they eat the putrid flesh of corpses; they eat excrement and drink urine, even of a dog; and they meditate while sitting on a corpse. It is questionable whether all this is regularly done, but it seems quite certain that at least occasionally, and then in a ritual context, as a kind of \'eucharist\', these cannibalistic and other \'inhuman\' acts are still taking place. \"
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<br>http://www.indiadivine.org/sadhus-nagas-babas1.htm
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<br>These men are staunch hindus and they have the best knowledge of Hindusim than us mortals.

[Ramesh]

In my view, non-vegetarianism is not good if you have feelings for fellow living beings. Agreed that plants have life. But they don\'t have a central nervous system. This means they don\'t feel pain. I am not making up any of these statements. All these have scientific back up. More over, in my view, nature gave us the trees for food. Like if you don\'t pull a fruit, it will fall on its own after it's ripe, and it is for you to eat. A goat or a hen won\'t offer their flesh to you, the way trees offer fruits and vegetables. Any person who feels the pain that an animal suffers when it is being killed will opt to be a vegetarian.

[bornhyderabadi]

Hi Ramesh, I have heard this central nervous system theory before, just because they (plants) can\'t feel pain as animals do, it's no excuse kill them. If you feel animals can feel pain I will drug these animals so they don\'t feel pain, then do you agree it\'s ok to kill them? It\'s pure double standards, one side you agree plants have life but again say its ok to kill them just because they can\'t feel pain. I am not for or against anything. I am non-vegetarian as much as I am vegetarian. I feel bad that animals need to die to satisfy our taste buds, but don\'t plants under go the same treatment. Life is a life. Who gave us the right to justify ourselves based on some central nervous system theory, pain and other S***? These double standards of these pseudo-vegetarians pisses me off.

[Andhraite]

Give me FIVE dude , <br> <br> Whether they feel the pain or not... a life is a life ... One more thing , thats there is no reply to my post from any veggie-supporting folk ...

[Ramesh]

Bornhyderabadi,
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Please read my mail once again. I didn\'t say it\'s okay to \"kill\" them. I just said the fruit falls by itself. Moreover, it will be a great achievement if you (we) can at least bring a legislation which makes it compulsory to give the animals the required anesthesia so that they can at least die peacefully. No double standards. But again, I am completely against killing animals in any way. And, in fact, don\'t just throw away the \"central nervous system\" theory. It has lot of meaning in it. Try to understand it.