I am proud of being Indian...are you?

by **Shaad-Aabaad** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 4:19 pm

I got this in an email and I know most of the information here is dated and may not hold true anymore. But it still makes me proud. These facts and figures are just the tip of the iceberg, the list could be endless. But, if we don’t see even a glimpse of that great India in the India that we see today, it clearly means that we are not working up to our potential; and that if we do, we could once again be an ever shining and inspiring country setting a bright path for rest of the world to follow. Let us all in our own small but significant way work towards the welfare of India, our India. Garv se kaho ham Bhartiya hain!

 FACTS TO MAKE EVERY INDIAN PROUD 
 Who is the co-founder of Sun Microsystems?
 Vinod Khosla

 Who is the creator of the Pentium chip (needs no introduction as 90% of the today’s computers run on it)?
 Vinod Dham

 Who is the third richest man in the world?
 According to the latest report on Fortune Magazine, it is AZIM PREMJI, who is the CEO of Wipro Industries. The Sultan of Brunei is at 6th position now.

 Who is the founder and creator of Hotmail (Hotmail is world’s No. 1 web based email program)?
 Sabeer Bhatia

 Who is the president of AT&T Bell Labs (AT&T Bell Labs is the creator of program languages such as C, C++, Unix to name a few)?
 Arun Netravali

 Who is the GM of Hewlett Packard?
 Rajiv Gupta

 Who is the new MTD (Microsoft Testing Director) of Windows 2000, responsible to iron out all initial problems?
 Sanjay Tejwrika

 Who are the Chief Executives of CitiBank, McKinsey & Stanchart?
 Victor Menezes, Rajat Gupta, and Rana Talwar.

 We Indians are the wealthiest among all ethnic groups in America, even faring better than the whites and the natives. There are 3.22 millions of Indians in USA (1.5% of population). YET, 38% of doctors in USA are Indians. 12% scientists in USA are Indians.
36% of NASA scientists are Indians. 34% of Microsoft employees are Indians. 28% of IBM employees are Indians. 17% of INTEL scientists are Indians.
13% of XEROX employees are Indians.

 You may know some of the following facts. These were recently published in a German magazine, which deals with HISTORICAL FACTS ABOUT INDIA.

 01. India never invaded any country in her last 1000 years of history. 

02. India invented the Number system. Aryabhatta invented ‘zero.’ 

03. The world’s first University was established in Takshila in 700BC. More than 10,500 students from all over the world studied more than 60 subjects. The University of Nalanda built in the 4th century BC was one of the greatest achievements of ancient India in the field of education. 

04. According to the Forbes magazine, Sanskrit is the most suitable language for computer software. 

05. Ayurveda is the earliest school of medicine known to humans. 

06. Although western media portray modern images of India as poverty stricken and underdeveloped through political corruption, India was once the richest empire on earth. 

07. The art of navigation was born in the river Sindh 5000 years ago. The very word “Navigation” is derived from the Sanskrit word NAVGATIH. 

08. The value of pi was first calculated by Budhayana, and he explained the concept of what is now known as the Pythagorean Theorem. British scholars have last year (1999) officially published that Budhayan’s works dates to the 6th Century, which is long before the European mathematicians. 

09. Algebra, trigonometry and calculus came from India. Quadratic equations were by Sridharacharya in the 11th Century; the largest numbers the Greeks and the Romans used were 106 whereas Indians used numbers as big as 1053. 

10. According to the Gemmological Institute of America, up until 1896, India was the only source of diamonds to the world. 

11. USA based IEEE has proved what has been a century-old suspicion amongst academics that the pioneer of wireless communication was Professor Jagdeesh Bose and not Marconi. 

12. The earliest reservoir and dam for irrigation was built in Saurashtra. 

13. Chess was invented in India. 

14. Sushruta is the father of surgery. 2600 years ago he and health scientists of his time conducted surgeries like caesareans, cataract, fractures and urinary stones. Usage of anaesthesia was well known in ancient India. 

15. When many cultures in the world were only nomadic forest dwellers over 5000 years ago, Indians established Harappan culture in Sindhu Valley (Indus Valley Civilisation). 

16. The place value system, the decimal system was developed in India in 100 BC. 

Quotes about India. \"We owe a lot to the Indians, who taught us how to count, without which no worthwhile scientific discovery could have been made.\"
 - Albert Einstein.

 \"India is the cradle of the human race, the birthplace of human speech, the mother of history, the grandmother of legend and the great grand mother of tradition.\"
 - Mark Twain.

 \"If there is one place on the face of earth where all dreams of living men have found a home from the very earliest days when man began the dream of existence, it is India.\"
 - French scholar Romain Rolland.

 \"India conquered and dominated China culturally for 20 centuries without ever having to send a single soldier across her border.
 - Hu Shih. (Former Chinese ambassador to USA)

by **vivek of themavericks** » Tue Jan 28, 2003 6:42 pm

Yes, it\'s good to know all this. The United States would probably have President Reddy in a decade\'s time, who\'d probably mumble, \"I now officialy take the honour of being the world\'s first President of the United States of Andhraites... er, er... hey where\'s the script?\" Cause, today we have propogated so much that, it\'s now called University of India at arbana-champaign! But all you good-for-nothing desis out there who just went cause you had money or some chacha sponsored or just tagged along, please stay there, don\'t come back.

by **anita** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:05 am

however many facts and figures you give, i am not that proud to be an indian. That too after taking birth as a female. Everyday, rather every hour, u have some news from some corner of this country where a girl has been victim in some aspect. recent one is, the arunachal pradesh minister\'s son with his friends rapes a 13yr old - i. e. may be a 7th or 8th class old girl. gangrape on such a young girl! can such things happen anywhere other than in india? I think its a curse to be born in india. A curse! And even more worst wud be for those women born as dalits. I just hate this country.

by **The fullhyd.com moderator** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 11:42 am

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by **Shaad-Aabaad** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:24 pm

...I got the message... chief!!

by **peeping tom** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 3:16 pm

Mr shaad INDIA HAS NOT CONTROLLED HER POPULATION SO I am not satisfied. I will be satisfied on the day Indian population comes to 30 crores.I then be proud also.

by **Devi** » Wed Jan 29, 2003 7:49 pm

WOW to our ancestors and .. But, Ofcourse, I am proud of being an Indian.. more so, after I came across some of the unknown facts that you have posted about our country..Thanx and Keep it up !

by **BAN_ME** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 11:27 am

You are kidding, peeping tom, the population of India will never touch 30 crores, may be it will touch 300 crores for sure...with so many illiterates/fanatics, and excessively religios obsessed people around who think that giving birth to a child is all nothing but GOD\'s will...
and dont ever take your chances of trying even to talk with these ppl about birth control, those ppl will kick you black n blue........and the irony is that all the above mentioned ppl are not in India....so the epitome is India will always be a poverty stricken country, thanks to her partial democracy and pseudo secularism...

by **Saira** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 1:09 pm

I would be a real proud Indian if we Indians stop back stabbing, stop lying for smallest things, our leaders stop lying, stop spitting on the ground, have some civic sense, stop killing DALITS, stop raping dalit women, stop riots, stop killing minorities, stop aborting female fetuses, stop bride burning for not enough dowry, if our leaders stop grabbing millions of rupees as comissions, if our elections are fair, if we learn the value of life......etc; That day will make everybody of us a proud Indian.

by **BAN_ME** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 1:32 pm

i appreciate your endless list saira, but the simple answer to all the above is money, women immolation-dowry, lies-money etc..etc....the simple remedy is when the girls start learning , show the interest in education, bend there backs and do some rela hard work to gain some real knowledge....unfortunately the woman in india, most of them are not competent enough, to take up science education etc ,....and most of them { even with lil education} only dream to get a good husband, never think as to what they can do for themselves.....who can stop a woman , if she revolts against marrying at young age....can\'t the Indian woman dont work and come outta there sick attitude India uvcourse will not change

by **Gulmohar** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 2:01 pm

hello, what makes you say that \'women in India are not competent enough to take up science\'. Before you make such sweeping statements, better think with an awake mind.
Problems are there in every country. These problems are of cultural, religious, social and ethical. If some of us doesn\'t like India because of these things, it\'s OK, still India moves ahead. Instead of crying and cribbing on politicians, illiteracy and other problems, why can\'t we go back and try fixing the problems? I am sure more or less none of us are ready. Since we are living in a real world be prepared to face them, solve them and fix them. Else, maybe, for some of us, it\'s time to take a flight to Utopia

by **Gulmohar** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 2:09 pm

Hey BAN_ME,I am just wondering, are you by any chance reincarnation of some LID? I see a finger print match in your verbatim. :-)

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by **Shaad-Aabaad** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 2:22 pm

Hey Gulmohur...thumbs up to you! i agree with your posts---both of them!!!
 P.S. Do read a post of mine in the next thread (Taj Mahal)...I have expressed the same sentiments...find solution rather than harp on the basis of the problems...cheers mate..

by **BAN_ME** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 3:04 pm

Gulmohar, please have a look at the available statistics on the science college enrollments, they speak for themselves... And why are you getting so excited as if i have abused you, i was talking about Indian women in general...

by **Gulmohar** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 4:19 pm

Enrolements doesn\'t reflect that Indian women are not good for science at all. Are you providing them with enough scope and elbow room? Whenever a girl wants to go for higher education, either her father or brothers or some other man stops her from doing so, don\'t you know that? Do you know why girl child is looked down? You maybe an urbane and elite, but get to the brasstacks, go to the villages and see the situation. Talking about enrolements, go to the US universities, they are also facing the same problem. If you want go read Science, last october issue, all the statistics are there for you to see and understand. Even the US education policymakers are more worried about girls not taking up science. What do you know about statistics?
If you are in India, then go to IISc, Bangalore, there in Biology departments girls outnumber boys, what does that mean. Go to CCMB hyderabad and take a look.

by N » Thu Jan 30, 2003 4:49 pm

abuses based on color, sex etc have been there since time immorial.....every where in the world....things are changing and i hope the same will continue...and one fine day we will be free of all this.....those who say that they are unhappy about being Indian...i call them escapists who wants to live in an ideal world.....which really doesnt exist....at any point..there\'s no reason to regret about these things..this is reality and we should face it rather than curse it.....wake up and think abt what you can do to the country and how u can help to make this world a better place to live in rather than pointing fingers.

by **Shaad-Aabaad** » Thu Jan 30, 2003 5:01 pm

AGREE....100%!!

by **vivek of themavericks** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 12:05 am

The problem is, when others get bored they read a book, watch Tv or go on a drive and we Indians get married. Now, the real issue is not that, the issue is we multiply big time, faster than cockroaches infact. Thats actually a fact.I am also including the bulk of the population living in the rural areas, so you don\'t have to take personaly. Population has been the single factor that has dropped the developement rate by 4 times than that made by other countries with lesser population and same rate of industrial expansion.

by **anita** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 3:45 am

AND PLEASE ANYBODY TELL ME WHAT ALL THESE GREAT INDIANS LIKE VINOD KHOSLA ETC DO FOR INDIA?i THINK THEY ARE HAVING A GREAT CAREER LIVES, FINE , GOOD. THE QUESTION IS WHAT DID THEY DO FOR OUR COUNTRY????????

by N » Fri Jan 31, 2003 7:36 am

before u question others...what did u do to ur country.......?

by **vivek of themavericks** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 12:11 pm

Don\'t you know how much these guys have donated to Indian institutions?.Look, Indians in higher positions have at one point felt to pay back India, the issue with bulk of Non reliable indians there, who have just gone for the heck of it.

by **vivek of themavericks** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 12:18 pm

These things are very much below the normal range, we are atleast are not as bad as russia with a divorce rate of 49%, which means one in every two couple breakup or more so, there are people who remarry more than 4 times in life atleast.Plus, germany, France, US, Uk all have the average age of a girl loosing her virginity as 16yrs.Now, if thats not a big deal, then lets all go ahead hunm around, but don\'t complain of \" Indians loosing the sense of culture, ethics and garbage like that.There are so many aspects India is great at, only difference is we let our personal life show in work and productivity, while the west does not. Plus as phlip cottler said \" India has too many holidays!\"

by **BackHomeandThinking** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 4:06 pm

Good email. Even I liked it. Especially when u r out there trying to become one on that email!

by D » Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:31 pm

what did u do and what r u doing?.. for India, I mean, anita.

by **Durga** » Fri Jan 31, 2003 6:50 pm

whoa ! again, anita ! Did u kno, that even a new born baby girl could have been raped in some so called advanced countries !? Its not aspecific to india, dear. Do not make that as a reason for u to hate ur motherland. Look out (compare, if u pl.) for the facts as to why u shud love ur motherland and look out for the reasons what u cud do to make a difference in making it better. Do not waste time on sulking, use it beneficially to tackle it and remove the prob.

There are boards posted everywhere in switzerland: \'Switzerland is the most beautiful country in the world, BUT only after your motherland!\'.. and then again I loovve one of those oldies where Mannadey expresses it so aptly: \'...eyy mere pyare watan, eyy merre bhichide chaman, tujhko dil khurbaan, tu hi meri aarzo, tu hi meri abhuru, tu hi meri jaan... choomulun uski zubaan jis pei aaya teraa naam..\'
India will be THE ONLY country, which will keep its arms open to us, dears.. lets treat it so, with the same amt. of love for it. A few politicians and a few more currupts do not make up INIDA, WE MAKE IT INTO OUR COUNTRY BY THE WAY WE FEEL AND LIVE BY IT.

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