Celeberation/observation of various days

[Ucchu Mian]

Hello Friends, Now a days the world seems to observe / celeberate hell lot of days - namely Father\'s day , Family Day, Mothers day , etc..etc.. This is a trend that atleast to me has started very lately.. We use to hear and celeberate only Childrens day and Teachers day.. Any ideas on these new trends please..

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[Bhaimiya]

Yep you are correct. All these days just started since 4 or 5 years including Valentines day, you forgot one more day which is Labour day which celebrate on May 1st every year.

[hina]

Ucchu bhai, you are right, never heard of these celebrations when I was in school, but lately when I went to India I could\'nt believe how the valentines day ,Friendship day ,mother\'s day so on and so forth were being celebrated. India has become more westernised than we can ever imagine. Humay sikhaya gaya tha kay maa-baap ki izzath aqri saans tak ki jaati hai, sirf saal ka ek din nahi,Yeh sub qaraabi hamara media hai, jo movies aur serials kay zariye hamaray young generation ko brainwash kar raha hai. Jab yeh saari cheezain hum itni jaldi adapt kar saktay hain to yahaan ki acchi cheezain kyoon nahi kar saktay!

[hardc0der]

All these *-Days are fads and tricks by greeting card companies and other entertainment companies to get more revenue by making you buy cards or other gifts to show your love or appreciation to the person concerned. I don\'t need a Mother\'s Day to call up my Mom and tell her that I love her, because I love her everyday of the year. Similarly I don\'t need a Father\'s day to show my love to my Dad or a Val\'s day to spend time with my gal. The entertainment companies must be laughing their heads off at the expense and time of the poor public who fall to their marketing tricks.

[Kulcha Hyderabadi]

You may think it was all started by Hallmark in an effort to sell cards, but that\'s not the case at all. All these celeberation and observances have been in vogue for a long long time. Mother\'s Day, Father\'s Day, Valentine\'s Day, Halloween and Thanksgiving Day. Mother\'s Day and Father\'s Day were originally celebrated by Greeks but later came to the United State and have become National Holidays around 1910. Halloween\'s history too goes a long way back and its origin is in Great Britain. Likewise, Valentine\'s Day too has been celebrated for centuries. Thanksgiving Day, a big national holiday in US is celebrated marking the safe landing of Pilgrims (Roman Catholics) from Ireland, who at that time where persecuted by Protestants (English). Of course during our times these holidays were unheard of but with the heavy influx of foreign technology, foreign goods and material.....I guess we have imported their holidays too. I remember very well \"Easter\" was celebrated in our School with much fanfare and \"All Souls/Saints Day\" was a holiday too....At the same time, you will notice that some events/observances are slowly fading out. Like the Muharram Alams (Taziyas), or Phanka for Dargahs, Tera Tezee (13 of Safar???)...etc. etc... I guess, with changing times, festivities change too...except religious holidays and observances..

[Ucchu Mian]

Thanks for the operation of the topic Kulcha Sait.. Ofcourse there are festivities and celeberations in each and every country. Talking of India - certainly these days are not originally a part of our culture or tradition until recently. We were surprised the other day when a nephew of mine who is now 24 yrs bought a suit for his father (my elder brother) and on asking what is the occassion he said \"Today is Father\'s day\" .. although my brother liked the suit but we all (our family members) shared the concern about these western trends entering our doors and gripping our youngsters. As a response my nephew had a tough time hearing from all of us about his passion for fathers day..we hope he or any other member of our family wouldn\'t repeat such thing again..I only wish that we are able to root in our traditional, religous and cultural values in the younger generations before we find ourselves left behind too faaaaaaaaaaar....

[Kulcha Hyderabadi]

Hina didi, it really surprises me no end how naive we could get about these issues. I really dont understand why even we have to talk about them. When we see no problem in allowing foreign culture in the form of food, clothing, technology, media into our homes, why lament about the change in attitude and behavior of the younger generation. We see people emigerating to Western World with vigor and fervor, knowing that they are heading into a different culture that is so different from our own, we do this with full knowledge and intent and yet we start cribbing and complaining about it when we find our children ignoring our values and culture. How can we inculcate our culture and values in our children, when they spent most of their time in a different environment, read a different curriculum, grow in a more liberal society?? Of course, for us, who are deep rooted into a certain culture and values it looks really bad... but for them, this is what they are growing with or exposed to it...so nothings bad to them. I firmly believe that it is important to ensure that our children do not stray from religious duties and responsibilities, the moral values etc. etc. There is nothing wrong adopting a different culture. Nothing wrong in wearing jeans and T-shirt, nothing wrong in eating cheeseburger and pizzas... provided, they are done without infringing or transgressing our religious and moral values. People in Hyderabad still frown upon those who pray in Trousers! - anything wrong with that? Why do muslim women wear \"Kali Poth ka Laccha\"? is it a religious requirement? The dowry system among muslims of asia is an alien practice - the various rites in our weddings - where did they emanate from?....The bottom line is that there is nothing wrong adopting a different culture as long as religious and moral values are kept intact. The impact of cultural change (foreign) is felt by the first generation only and after that it becomes the culture of the future generations. I bet, our great grand children will not even talk about these issues.

[Ucchu Mian]

Kulcha Sait..I personally think that way.. if some people find it allright -- no body has an objection. I think it is everybody\'s duty to try as much possible to protect our own things - it is a bit hard job than adopting let go attitude. Following this route no wonder people will find allright using wet wipes or cleanex for water in toilets then perform prayers..because they are exposed to that kind of society and culture.

[Kulcha Hyderabadi]

Ucchu bhai, I\'m afraid you didnt get my point. I have emphasized that it is necessary to uphold and stick to religious and moral values...cultural values are secondary and as long as people do not trangress their religious requirements. I dont want to get into the \"wet tissue\" issue, a religiously minded person would never neglect the basic requirements of offering Salat.

[Ucchu Mian]

Kulcha Sait.. please dont ignore the basics.. you say one should stick to religous and moral values ..but it is ok to change cultural values... well I think one is very much interrelated to the other.. I give you a simple example and I dont want to get futher with it...
Would anyone in our society (lets restrict to Hyderabad) accept a grown up man to hug someone\'s wife or a grown up daughter....or allow a grown up person to hang around in families with a half pant....there are many such simple things which fall under \"cultural band\" but significantly effects the moral and religious values..

[Kulcha Hyderabadi]

Thanks for the example: It consolidates my point that as long as any practice which does not infringe our basic religious and moral values, it is okay to adopt...Now, what you have cited is a big \'no no\' from religious point of view, hence it cannot be adopted...even if a million people of other faith and culture consider it right to do.

[Ucchu Mian]

Well done Kulcha Sait..please read all your messages and you will enjoy your varying statements...

[Kulcha Hyderabadi]

Ucchu Bhaiyya, I have always insisted the religious and moral values are of primary importance, culture is secondary. The common denominator among people of certain faith is their religious beliefs and tenets and not the culture. You will see people of the same faith but having an entirely different culture all over the world. What is common among them is the adherence to the principles and laws of their religion. For example, if a grown up American converts to Islam, he will not change his culture, but he will follow and observe the religious requirements of the acquired faith. Arabs, Chinese, Indonesians, Indians, Malaysians.....they are all different in their culture. We are talking about comparative cultures of the whole world, not just limited to Western World only. If culture was the primary criteria, then the whole Muslim Ummah should have one culture!

[Shahed]

It is true that these type of celebrations have been
in vogue for a long time, but the question is howcome these things are getting popular in
a country like India and why indians specially youths are getting attracted with such western traditions, why not our festivals or traditions are popular in Western Countries.
The only reason behind this is MEDIA and passion of wetern culture. It is also true that taking advantage of that craze few business tycoons enjoying it as a profit making business and minting money. The big question is why our youth is attracting towards western culture, is there any drawback in our culture Or other cultures are more interested n attracted.

[NameChanged]

ONE REQUEST....I have been posting in these boards frm a long time....and found many ppl just ....1] some ppl just stick to their point and nuthin can convince them....if they believe that sun rises in the west...they`ll never hesitate to create stating that...and will successfully support their point... 2]some ppl don have any point to post cuz they lack brains...they just keep backing ppl stated in (1)...their sole aim is just to b in conversation and never care to think abt...how wierd they sound sometimes.....
3]some ppl just want to post something....again they just want to b the conversation....they just keep repeating others points....
4]and the last but not the least ...\"the sensible guys\"....they have a point in many of their postings.... PS:- this may offend ppl...but i just posted ..what i feel....

[Same name]

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[Bakash]

I just find one thing here. What\'s the benefit we\'re getting by celebrating these days. It\'s only the companies(for example greeting card companies and the fabrics companies) who have given boost to this culture. They want their sales to be increased. But we just believe what we see on ads. That\'s the problem with it. The more people get adopted to these cultures the more benefit these companies will be gaining. I\'m ok if we really celebrate mother\'s day or fathers\'s day with respect on our parents. But the culture is to celebrate it for fashion. That bothers me a lot. Ofcourse this is my personal opinion only.

[Bakash]

I just find one thing here. What\'s the benefit we\'re getting by celebrating these days. It\'s only the companies(for example greeting card companies and the fabrics companies) who have given boost to this culture. They want their sales to be increased. But we just believe what we see on ads. That\'s the problem with it. The more people get adopted to these cultures the more benefit these companies will be gaining. I\'m ok if we really celebrate mother\'s day or fathers\'s day with respect on our parents. But the culture is to celebrate it for fashion. That bothers me a lot. Ofcourse this is my personal opinion only.

[Bhaimiya]

Thanks God my name is not on the above list or categories.

[GOD]

Ucchu miah..LID was crazy sometimes..thats the reason why i said \"sometimes LID\"...he definitely comes out with nice postings sometimes..aur aapne aur ek baar apne aap ko prove kar liya..\"For Kulcha Sait and other Friends\"....yeh board create karke.....Ki aap category [1] ke layak hai...

[kalia]

Hey Guys, You all seem to have a lot of time to discuss ... Good luck...

[guess]

hi all....whats the prob if some one celebrates MOTHERS DAY ...FATHERS DAY ...etc....celebartion of these doesnt mean that we love our mothers and fathers only this day...don sound weird and narrow-minded....its good that there is some such day....for many busy ppl who dont live with their parents can show their affection towards parents....by atleast visiting their homeland on these days....
and why do some ppl always blame the west for everything....i guess most of them who post on this board are NRI`s....and they don deserve the right to speak bad abt the west...if they were so much cared for the traditions..they would have never looked for a job outside the country....

[hardc0der]

Yeah Guess, you have a point when you say that people here criticize the west just for the heck of it. Anyway lets not deviate from the topic. I am not against the *-Days as such, but I am against the way the entertainment companies hoodwink the general public and play on their sentiments and make them buy expensive gifts; that boosts their sales on those *-Days. And this is not restricted to India alone, it is a world-wide marketing strategy.

[Guest]

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[GOD]

ITS FROM GOD.....