Reservation issue is bothering me, does it bother you?

[CtrlAltDel]

parinda, even if u change ur name n post, yr stink still pervades!

[paris_dakar]

idealism...mixed with 'tude! yeah if its really tit for tat then I would assume that politicians from the backward classes were really spearheading the movement...but thats not the case. no one is spearheading this issue. My reading of the issue is that some people are really stubborn about holding on to their position of privilege.



reservations have helped a lot a of our fellow citizens to come out of the shadows of society. the question is how many? does the government know? Does the government care about the efficacy of its schemes? actually do we care about the efficacy of the schemes already in place that should have empowered more people?



i just hope its not another ill conceived policy with an eye at the votebank. yes there will be some people left by the wayside because of their caste but a situation far worse than that has been perpetrated on a majority of our country's population for millenia. Who is thinking about that?



by having reservations signed into law, are we looking at a permanent situation or is it timebound? how are people going to hold the politicians accountable? do we want to build another legacy of social malaise?



We as a country are not in a position to insist on meritocracy because that will leave a majority of the population behind. People who tout their merit were not born superior, they were born into favorable circumstances in my opinion.



How many of us have not seen seemingly idiot classmates be successful in life?



After all this ranting, I feel we should help the government formulate a policy that will start people early in their life...the schooling...more funds for schools. a standard of average literacy that is lifted from the present level will automatically increase awareness among people of their rights and give more power to the people in influencing policies. that last part was idealism....but i believe it is true.



50% reserved seats means we have a situation of glass half full or half empty. I think instead cribbing about quality of education dipping due to reservations we should put our efforts into influencing policy that would benefit the people in real measurable terms and not just in terms of vote banks.

[redneck]

idealism...mixed with 'tude! yeah if its really tit for tat then I would assume that politicians from the backward classes were really spearheading the movement...but thats not the case. no one is spearheading this issue. My reading of the issue is that some people are really stubborn about holding on to their position of privilege.

reservations have helped a lot a of our fellow citizens to come out of the shadows of society. the question is how many? does the government know? Does the government care about the efficacy of its schemes? actually do we care about the efficacy of the schemes already in place that should have empowered more people?

i just hope its not another ill conceived policy with an eye at the votebank. yes there will be some people left by the wayside because of their caste but a situation far worse than that has been perpetrated on a majority of our country's population for millenia. Who is thinking about that?

by having reservations signed into law, are we looking at a permanent situation or is it timebound? how are people going to hold the politicians accountable? do we want to build another legacy of social malaise?

We as a country are not in a position to insist on meritocracy because that will leave a majority of the population behind. People who tout their merit were not born superior, they were born into favorable circumstances in my opinion.

How many of us have not seen seemingly idiot classmates be successful in life?

After all this ranting, I feel we should help the government formulate a policy that will start people early in their life...the schooling...more funds for schools. a standard of average literacy that is lifted from the present level will automatically increase awareness among people of their rights and give more power to the people in influencing policies. that last part was idealism....but i believe it is true.

50% reserved seats means we have a situation of glass half full or half empty. I think instead cribbing about quality of education dipping due to reservations we should put our efforts into influencing policy that would benefit the people in real measurable terms and not just in terms of vote banks.

Do you know the Hindutva strategy of reacting when someone makes a point ...



YAWWWWNNN whatevah MAN

[paris_dakar]

and the point was?

[kavya]

Do you know the Hindutva strategy of reacting when someone makes a point ...

it is definitely NOT burning down trains with hindus and killing innocent people

it is definitely not hollering rss or hindutva everytime something happens

it is DEFINITELY NOT looking inside one's own poophole to deduce inferences ( DQ does it al the time)

[paris_dakar]

Kavya has racked up a decent score in just a week...way to go!

[betty]

No MM but I dont see anythign worng in Brahmins lilke you beciming one.If inferior caste Hindus can be sweepers why not superior caste hindus according to Hindutva be sweepers,whats caste got to do with being sweepers or not.

but if u r in india shudnt u accept the caste system

Why should we accept the caste system in modern India? The division of labour according to caste is old practice and needs to go out of style by now...

[paris_dakar]

I won't accept caste system, I only acknowledge its exsistence. The social structure needs o go through a period of progressive change and I believe we are going through it.

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redneck , U just proved that U R so retarded that U cannot get admission or job without lower caste reservation ( or mozlum capitation fee in mozlum colleges )

accept the fact that U dont have it in U to make it AT ALL in a neutral world

U use ur religion and caste as a crutch to "reach to the ground level" that other regular forward caste peeple are in

What say abt bitches capitalising on there gender , making money,

getting seats even in parliament, now what crutches are being used

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Ever noticed there is one seat reserved for handicapped , 50 % seats for women in a RTC Bus .

wherever needed u suddenly remember ur gender then u remember the need for equality . Hypocrisy at its best

ANd talk abt equality.

U carry ur crutches (0)^(0) wherever u go , even the _ bathrooms.

[Sharjeel]

This board gets cheaper by the minute.

[mango]

reservations kind of tend to screw up the chances of the really qualified individuals who fall into the "upper caste" system. you know what? the system was screwed up. everyone realizes that and the best way to move forward from this is for both sides to be educated well. there are definitely funds that are coming into the country (take a look at the booming economy) and use them to educate all levels of society. then, you wouldn't have the issue of reservations. however, at the current time, it is not possibel for everyone to compete with one another due to inferior educations. despite this fact, i would still push for the abolishment of reservations.. as it is only enabling the less able to do something that the more able are qualified and willing to do.

[paris_dakar]

Lets say we only have scholarships...for the economically backward, would that by itself guarantee upliftment of people who don't belong to the traditional forward castes? We have had reservations for quite a few years, is the country worse off for it? where is the data?



I have seen people argue here that people of forward castes would be disadvantaged...who are these qualified people? Do we find them in such overwhelming numbers that we should not create an oppurtunity for those people who need the help more than they do? How do we make these judgements? how about getting some information?



although it would be nice if we could just do this based on economic status, wouldn't we then ignore the social dynamics of our society? wouldn't some of these highly qualified people, incredible as it may seem that they need crutches, be left out then?



This policy that the governement is intent on following, they sure haven't done a good job of communcating with India. How long is this going to last? How are the metrics being gathered? is there a national objective to stop casteism from taking the centerstage of national and regional plotical debate?



Another question to all the people cribbing about low quality people becoming engineers due to the reservations, is is going to be low quality because of their caste? are we automatically assuming people to be dumb because they have the stigma of being called low caste?