DQ wrote:"UNBIASED" huh, Scroll back and look at the steps outlined.
DQ wrote:Its increasingly evident that neither will you research nor apply simple logic. "Da vinci code" "Kashmir Pundits" "Osama bin laden" why should all this be discussed when the simple matter of fact is
Well...You need help if you felt that I even remotely alluded to Kashmiri Pundits or Osama in this thread. Now, let's come to the matter of fact.
DQ wrote:- Aamir just reiterates what the Superem Court of India has said.
Why is the party there up in arms?
Why is the leadership silent?
Why have they opted to throw Mr Shatru and Ms hema in the fray?
Would help if you put these questions to the party think tank. This is not the forum to get specific and correct answers for these questions.
DQ wrote:- A filem cleared by the censor board is blanket banned in a state
Was there a state government order to ban the film?
DQ wrote:- People who travel to neighbouring states to watch the movie are branded Drohis "traitors"
I've said it earlier and am saying it again. This is wrong and should be condemned. I simply don't understand why you need to bring this up every time you address a post to me. Does it massage your ego that someone who is supposedly a "Modi-bhakt" is condemning something happening in Gujarat?
DQ wrote:Cant you see where this is heading to ? And this is the stand of a national party of prominence?
Where I see this heading to is a situation where the BJP will lose respect within its supporters. Making mountains out of molehills has never taken any party anywhere.
DQ wrote:What they actually did when Aamir raised the issue of rehabilitation, was indulge in violence, stop the screening of his films—Rang De Basanti and now Faana—burn his effigies as well as the hoardings and posters of his films. And then blame him for not listening to their views! Is this the BJP way of starting a dialogue? ?
Again....why are you asking me this question? Did I ever claim to be a member of the party think tank? or for that matter...even a member of the party?
DQ wrote:My dear friend yes others protest on various films and books but dont covertly use the state machienery to make an effect.
Yeah....they overtly threaten bloodshed. And I guess that's acceptable to you.
DQ wrote:- use of state machienery to kill innocents
- in two years time prominent presence in a state and use of this power to impose and revoke bans, let the courts and responsible boards do what they want we will do what we want.
Now who is bringing out of context issues into the discussion?
DQ wrote:- we will use the secret weapon "traitor" any one who does not concur with our POV is a traitor.
Don't you do the same damned thing too? Isn't everyone opposed to your P-O-V a Modi Bhakt in your parlance?
DQ wrote:On Da Vinci code there is a beleif angle involved and the call for ban on the movie by the adherents of that relegion is their legitimate right and if thier sensitivity has been taken into consideration there is no harm.
Let me answer your query in your own words.
DQ wrote:The larger picture is, yes its a movie but is it banned all over India - no.
Then whats so special that the youth wng of a the state party calls for a ban and its banned across the state.
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DQ wrote:BUT BUT BUT BUT the point here is a movie that can be released all over India cannot be viewed in a state because a certain fraction of the community has held the entire state to ransom.
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DQ wrote:If the story line was objectionable it should have been banned all over India. We have a censore board to control as well. We dont need a political party to settle personal scores and curtail freedom of expression.
Now tell me....doesn't all this apply to the ban on Da Vinci Code too?
DQ wrote:If you accept that the hooliganism in this "Fanaa" issue is uncalled for draw a full stop and unconditonally condemn it
I've condemned it twice already in this thread. What more do you want me to do? Go kiss Aamir's @$$?
DQ wrote:not ah wahan da vinci boycott huwa to humare fanaa ko boycott karne me kya etc etc. that my dear friend is not Unbaised but the pooh holed vision.
I mentioned the Da Vinci Code because you said this....
DQ wrote:yes protests do happen in other places and they maybe regional. If they are unconstituonal they must be condemned and if it is debateable it must be denbted and resolved. BUT BUT BUT BUT the point here is a movie that can be released all over India cannot be viewed in a state because a certain fraction of the community has held the entire state to ransom.
And Before I said this, I had already condemned the happenings in Gujarat. What gave you the idea that my condemnation was a result of a "pooh-holed vision"?
DQ wrote:Now to its not BJP but the Multiplex owners, ah what a joke read this. if you stand for something have courage to own it, else others have every right to speculate what you maybe doing covertly because you never come out clear on anything.
Both the BJP and the multiplex owners are very open about their stand on this issue. Who is doing what covertly? Mind you, I'm not supporting their stand here - all I'm saying is that they're quite open and vocal about their stand.
Your POV on this has been formed without you knowing both sides of the coin. And thats why you feel that the move by multiplex owners is being forced by government arm-twisting.
Let me give you a brief background of the Narmada situation. A majority of Gujarat goes through a drought year after year as the second largest river in the state, the Sabarmati, has dried out. The Narmada project is supposed to put an end to this misery. And passions on Narmada run quite high due to it being a lifesaver for millions of people in the state.
Now, an insight into the NBA (Narmada Bachao Andolan). If the organisation was concerned only with the rehabilitation part, it would have been different. Actually, that was the case till the mid-90's. But then, she started opposing any development on the project. And thats why she's seen in such a negative light in the state. And when Aamir issued a statement from an NBA forum, it was bound to raise some shackles.