Who is this Priyanka Pulla?

[sandeep]

Balakrishna is lucky that there are tons of caste based fans association in Andhra Pradesh. And mind you, it happens only in AP. Otherwise, there is no way a hero can sustain as long as 20 years, giving a hit every leap year! But still some good movie like Narasimha Naidu and SSR has come in recent times (definiton of "recent" changes for Balakrishna movies).



I have to agree with you regarding Balakrishna movies. Other than that I guess all other heroes and movies are reasonable. Well movies in AP are viewed as pure entertainment and they don't appreciate the movie as art! And ofcourse producers and directors have to cater to the needs of people to survive.

[CtrlAltDel]

Balakrishna is lucky that there are tons of caste based fans association in Andhra Pradesh. And mind you, it happens only in AP...

naah! it happens in tamil nadu too - the caste based fan clubs. recently tamil star Sharat Kumar talked about it and claimed that the reason why Rajnikanth and MGR are loved by all strata of tamilians was because they were not Tamilians - no caste or group could claim them as their own (MGR was a Mallu and Rajnikanth is a Maratha from Bangalore).

[Sandeep]

To some extent I agree with you. There is indeed caste based following in TN. But that forms a very minute percentage. Not much. It doesn't influence the whole career of a hero. In AP it is too much. If Balakrishna commands huge fan following and collections (movie openings are only next to Chiranjeevi) then it is 75% because of Caste following and nothing much (to some extent may be because he is the son opf Legendary NTR).



But one thing which is beyind my understanding is Nagarjuna, Venkatesh (almost 90% of telugu Industry) belong to the same caste as Balakrishna. But the kind of following Balakrishna has is different!



And I completely disagree with your view (rather Sharath Kumars) that Rajni and MGR are popular because they don't belong to any Caste! If an Actor is good, he is good. What about Shivaji Ganeshan, or today's Vijay, Vikram, Surya?



Vijay and Vikram are Tamil christinas where as Surya is Pukka Tamil Hindu (don't know his caste)!

[CtrlAltDel]

But one thing which is beyind my understanding is Nagarjuna, Venkatesh (almost 90% of telugu Industry) belong to the same caste as Balakrishna. But the kind of following Balakrishna has is different!

as u said thats the legacy of NTR...ANR never had the same frantic following...and Venkatesh did not inherit any fan club.

And I completely disagree with your view (rather Sharath Kumars) that Rajni and MGR are popular because they don't belong to any Caste!

of corz thats not the only reason why they were popular, but sharat kumar had a valid point nevertheless.

If an Actor is good, he is good. What about Shivaji Ganeshan,

sivaji proves my point. acting-wise he is far superior to MGR (MGR just cud not act...he was good only in fights and had political backing). similarly kamalhasan is superior to rajnikanth in acting. why didnt they reach the same megastar status? every top tamil hero (other than rajni and MGR) upto the mid-90s had strong caste support - vijaykanth, karthik, prabhu, satyaraj, napoleon, sharat kumar...every one of them. even now when vijaykanth and karthik have announced political ambitions, they are planning caste based parties. both belong to different influential castes. Kamalhasan is a brahmin, but brahmins are a minority and never organized so he doesnt command much influence apart from among the educated urban classes (he has wisely kept away from politics too).



the new heroes have more support among the urban and semi urban youth whose caste feelings are probably not at the same intensity as the previous generations.



btw, vikram is not a tamilian - he is an anglo-indian from coimbatore. his real name is Kenneth. maybe that explains the sudden surge in his popularity since last 4-5 years...

[sandeep]

acting-wise he is far superior to MGR (MGR just cud not act...he was good only in fights and had political backing).

Actually acting and super stardom don't go hand in hand. You can only choose one path. Either you play with the masses acting as one among them with extraordinary talent in every thing that falls under sun or cater to only one sect of people. Kamal Haasan is one such who caters to one particular section who are not filmi buffs but watch movies as a form of art. That is why you don't see huge collections for his movie unless it is very good.



Anyways, guess we are going way offtopic and giving Priyanka some room to breathe. Back to attacking Priyanaka. Priyanka, you hearing? Any comments about our criticizm? Anyw chances of changing your view.

[CtrlAltDel]

Anyways, guess we are going way offtopic and giving Priyanka some room to breathe. Back to attacking Priyanaka. Priyanka, you hearing? Any comments about our criticizm? Anyw chances of changing your view.

:lol: arre jaando yaar ussko! as i said before, is a film review to be taken so seriously that we have to attack the reviewer like this?



anyway i am sure Priyanka is now being kept well away from the DB....

[HH]

Poor Viewers ...


Who Sees ... The Poor Viewers ...
Who Writes ... The Disserving Reviewers ...
Who Fools ... The Directors
Who Rules ... The Duper Zeroes
Who Loses ... The Pauper Producers
Who Wins ... The Taxing Government
Who Pays ... The Poor Viewers ...

[SV]

One important thing to attain superstardom in TN is that the person should not belong to Tamil Nadu.



As you already might know, both Rajini and MGR were not from Tamil Nadu - the theory is that this helps them get away from caste affiliations in TN - and fans don't need to fight on caste basis.



Otherwise, the fans and the people in general can get fanatic about caste there just like those in any other state.



Cheers

[Sandeep]

Well, read Priyanka's review on Ghajini. Here is something she asked : -

So catch it as fast as you can, and yes, do let us know if you can figure out why it's called what it is.

Well, Ghajini invaded India repeatedly before succeeding in his endeavour . Surya also after innumerous attempts kills the bad guy.



Anyways, major strength of the movie is the way Director narrates love story. Simply amazing. It was interwoven in the plot very very well. And ofcourse Surya/Asin combination rocks big time. I watched the movie in Tamil and was very impressed. By the time it reached telugu audience, our guys must have re-shot Surya with Lungi and Nikkers . Just Kidding.



Muragadoss rocks, I am upbeat about his next venture "STALIN"

[ycr007]

Itz playing in the theatre closest to moi home and it was Jampacked today Blacks going for 150-200

someone was telling that surya suffers from 15-mins amnesia

tell me it ain't so

Ghajini was named after Mahmud of Ghazni, apparently because he relentlessly pursues the villains in spite of his failures and help from Nayantara. This was confirmed by the Ghajini website, which says, “Ghajini the name is a metaphor for assiduous try.” Enough said.
Lesson learnt: Go through a movie’s website before watching it. Or at least before writing about it!

[talky]

hey ppl...i heard ghajini is the remake of some english movie..is that true ...i heard itz some momentum

[ycr007]

hey ppl...i heard ghajini is the remake of some english movie..is that true ...i heard itz some momentum

Memento, not Momentum.

Memento Gist:A man, suffering from short-term memory loss, uses notes and tattoos to hunt down his wife's killer

[talky]

hey ppl...i heard ghajini is the remake of some english movie..is that true ...i heard itz some momentum

Memento, not Momentum.

Memento Gist:A man, suffering from short-term memory loss, uses notes and tattoos to hunt down his wife's killer

hey ycee thanx for the info..

[ycr007]

hey ycee thanx for the info..

netme talky.....Now get back to studies.

All da best for ur xams on Monday....

[spamtaneous]

hey ppl...i heard ghajini is the remake of some english movie..is that true ...i heard itz some momentum

whaat....

i had a feeling this would happen one day... though i thought it would be made in hindi...

[talky]

hey ycee thanx for the info..

netme talky.....Now get back to studies.
All da best for ur xams on Monday....

ok ycee...thanx

[CtrlAltDel]

from my frens who saw it yeaterday and from internet reviews, Gajini seems to be the next big hit after Aparichitudu....will have to see it at the earliest...and also try to get a good DVD of the tamil version too...





of corz there wud also be people who wud diss the movie just coz the basic story is copied from an acclaimed english movie...

[ycr007]

Jus' caught up the reviews of Kyon Ki ,Garam Masala & Shaadi No. 1 (The First two written by you-know-who & prolly the third one too....itz left uncredited)



Now I've come to understand from 'other' sources that all the three movies are Triple-Tripe!!! I can't help but think that the reviews were written by the Mad Hatter of 'Alice in Wonderland' fame. Pity to see such Garrulousness wasted and making out the movies even triper



I have lost count of how many times I've been hollering that the reviews carried out bear no sorta semblance to the way that reviews must be done.Maybe the author follows these books:





Whereas Shaadi's reviews had some generous (or not-so-generous) things to say about its director DD, both of Kyon Ki & Garam Masala's reviews curiosly lacked any mention of their director-Priyadarshan ( Who,incidentally,directed both of them)And the basic flaw of movie-reviewing by the fairer sex would remain as the utterly unwarranted praise dished out to macho hunks and the askance glare & a passing mention abt the female leads. The writer literally drools over Akhsay kumar as if his was the performance-of-the-year.And i had half-hoped that i'd not find a mention of John's locks in the review but alas....I was disappointed.



Now the sane person in me is yelling at me and asking of me that why do I make a mountain outta a molehill & outdo the reviewer in garrulousness and dishing out some more useless tripe again!!



But as the reviewer has nothing better to do on a Friday Nite (or a Saturday morning) than torment da keyboard ( and the readers too, unfortunately) I have nothing better to do on a balmy Sunday Afternoon!

[fullhyd.com]

Hi YCR007,



fullhyd.com is a local guide. We get most of our traffic from our classifieds section, then from search and editorial (content, including film reviews), then from community features (blogs, personals and discussions). This thread should not make it appear like the site is about film reviews.

Now I've come to understand from 'other' sources that all the three movies are Triple-Tripe!!! I can't help but think that the reviews were written by the Mad Hatter of 'Alice in Wonderland' fame. Pity to see such Garrulousness wasted and making out the movies even triper

We did not call all the films tripe. We do not know what other sources you refer to, but no source - newspaper or website - we know called Garam Masala tripe. All other sources we know called the other two tripe. We did exactly the same (and much earlier).

I have lost count of how many times I've been hollering that the reviews carried out bear no sorta semblance to the way that reviews must be done.Maybe the author follows these books:

Our reviews are written to help our users decide whether they should watch a film or not. Elsewhere in this thread, we have given our ratings' correlation with the films' box-office performance. That is, in our opinion, the only way to measure the effectiveness of a reviewer, not any templates for review-writing. All our film reviews come out by 5pm-6pm on the day the films are released (except when there is a surfeit of releases). All these three did.

Several thousand locals (and many NRIs) read fullhyd.com's Hindi film reviews every weekend, and tens of thousands read the Telugu film reviews on fullhyd.com, and they do it week after week. They must be finding them serving the purpose.

And the basic flaw of movie-reviewing by the fairer sex would remain as the utterly unwarranted praise dished out to macho hunks and the askance glare & a passing mention abt the female leads. The writer literally drools over Akhsay kumar as if his was the performance-of-the-year.And i had half-hoped that i'd not find a mention of John's locks in the review but alas....I was disappointed.

Every other review commended Akshay Kumar's performance. Here is a quote from the rediff.com review (by a male reviewer), which is even more superlative about Akshay Kumar:

http://in.rediff.com/movies/2005/nov/02garam.htm

Akshay Kumar rocks the film. In a commandingly restrained performance, the actor shows off topnotch comic timing to hilarious effect. Balancing subtle shifts of tone with wildly over-the-top slapstick, he manages to always get a laugh – even when the script falters. There's a self-deprecating aspect visible in Akshay's comedy that adds warmth to the film. And he counters his goofy grin with a terrific display of deadpan dialogue delivery. This is his film, and he's having a ball.

Also,

John Abraham is Sam, a smarmy stud...

You can refer other reviews too. It's patently unfair to say that our reviewer wrote Akshay Kumar was good since he is a "macho hunk" (there is actually no reference to Akshay Kumar being either macho or a hunk in the fullhyd.com review, unless you choose to read some sentences talking about his performance that way), or that we are the only ones to have raved about his performance. That itself is disinformation.



In any case, if someone looks good, a reviewer would say that. Just that we refer in a review to an actor's looks does not mean that it's overdone. Besides, in the context of this movie, it's important to talk about the lead actors' looks, since they enact the roles of flirts who use looks to land women, especially John Abraham.



fullhyd.com's ratings are all entertainment oriented - will the Hyderabadi enjoy the film. Several times, we rate Hollywood films that are high on FX, high, even if they've flopped in the US, since we think the Hyderabadi will like them.



We rated Garam Masala 3/5, and Kyon Ki and Shaadi No. 1, 1.5/5. We should just watch the following weeks to see if the perfomance at the box-office matches these.

[akhilis2cool]

Our reviews are written to help our users decide whether they should watch a film or not. Elsewhere in this thread, we have given our ratings' correlation with the films' box-office performance. That is, in our opinion, the only way to measure the effectiveness of a reviewer, not any templates for review-writing. All our film reviews come out by 5pm-6pm on the day the films are released (except when there is a surfeit of releases). All these three did.

box -office performance? most movies are full on the first day...frm wht I hear, garam masala isnt as big a hit as shaadi no. 1...

and ur reviews mostly talk abt the performaces, script, screen play and stuff...

[General Grevious]

How come the mods answered so instantly? was it because someone made fun of their employee? If so....then thats a pathetic way of reassuring your employees and yourself.



Are reviews supposed to predict the success of a movie? If not then why bother about whether the rating you gave is justified?



Also when a reviewer justifies his position by linking to a popular website.....that doesnt say a lot about them.

[General Grevious]

and btw......i know the guy who wrote the review for Rediff. He'll probably gloat with pride that another website is looking at his review as a "benchmark"

[CtrlAltDel]

...frm wht I hear, garam masala isnt as big a hit as shaadi no. 1...

u heard wrong i think... today evening 4:30pm, Garam Masala was sold out at Anand cinema for the 6pm show. i then moved to sangeet for shaadi #1 and found the ticket counter still open with a few tickets left over 'corz better sense prevailed and i didnt see it...



names of akshay, john and priyadarshan definitely wud draw more crowds compared to the 3 non-actors in shaadi#1...

[ycr007]

We do not know what other sources you refer to, but no source - newspaper or website - we know called Garam Masala tripe. All other sources we know called the other two tripe. We did exactly the same (and much earlier).

err...My 'sources' were real people who watched the movie FDFS and not some website or a 'tabloid. And indeed, they were not paid to do so.....

Our reviews are written to help our users decide whether they should watch a film or not.

Thatz where you're horribly mistaken! As a sane & average moviegoer, I,for one, am unable to reach at a satisfactory decision on whether too see a movie or not by reading your reviews.I dunno about others who might (or indeed,might not) be able to judge a movie jus' by its review.

Personally, I'd like a review to be concentrated around these primary areas:

• Genre-whether its an action/comedy/sentimental/revenge/melodrama etc;which your reviews talk very less about


• Primary target audience-which would be an offshoot of the above; info as to who would be most likely to watch the movie AND like it!


• Cast- Who are the main players and their brief character sketches


• Crew-The brains behind the movie. a mention about the director and the type of films he generally dishes out...would make the reader understand much more.


• music-whether the movie's songs AND Background score is good/passable/avoidable! Sadly most of your revies totally ignore it. Or play safe with the oft-repeated cliches like "songs-are-breaks" & "heroines-are-there-only-for-songs" etc


• Pros & Cons: what are the highlights & lowpoints in the movie.For Ex a well-executed action scene, a melodramatic moment, a gut-wrenching senti scene etc.These should give a brief idea to the reader about the brilliance (or the lack of it) on the part of the person(s) behind it

Apart from these there are many more that I feel shold be given adequate attention to, in a movie review.
And none of your reviews (barring a few) actually do this. I am not saying that THIS is how YOUR review should be but it generally is the norm followed by critics (be it armchair ones or serious ones) all across.
And i'm not wrong when i say that the reviews only concentrate on the Look n Feel of the movie rather than the intricacies of the work behind it.

And since you've taken the pains of getting a Rediff link to 'justify' your work, let me reply in kind!
Indiafm Review of Garam Masala
I'd encourage your reviewers to read it

And for landssake cut out the nonsensical & garrulous words that the reviews are peppered with! Its ok if the reviewer is from a convent-school or happens to be a overtly-verbose kinda person, but seriously, it ain't an Essay competition out there!!!
And the image i used was to hit home the fact that sarcasm,when misplaced, is totally lost on the audience-A point that the reviewee drives home about most of the films,but forgets (or mebbe ignores) to implement in the writings!

Several thousand locals (and many NRIs) read fullhyd.com's Hindi film reviews every weekend, and tens of thousands read the Telugu film reviews on fullhyd.com, and they do it week after week. They must be finding them serving the purpose.

And i presume you'd be assuming this n the basis of your page views.

Trust me, i have left forwarding Funny emails to my friends.instead i forward them the links to your reviews (with a link to dictionary.com as well!)

And as far as serving the purpose is concerned, it could be gauged if there were a 'comments' section for your reviews;or even a "has-this-article-helped-you?" page that one comes across in M$ help pages!!!



But in almost all cases, the comments are on the movie itself,rather than on the review. And thatz where this thread comes in

[talky]

from my frens who saw it yeaterday and from internet reviews, Gajini seems to be the next big hit after Aparichitudu....will have to see it at the earliest...and also try to get a good DVD of the tamil version too...


of corz there wud also be people who wud diss the movie just coz the basic story is copied from an acclaimed english movie...

though i m a telugu ian...i m saying to be frank...telugu ppl r not creative juss remaking everything in tamil...but in some way telugu ppl r the best