South ASIA - West

[DQ]

What a Nerd, What a Nerd to come up with a proposition that its all one way and Honor Killing.



One of the biggest D..k head suggestions that I have ever read on the boards.



Let me rephrase his query.



Why again do I see so many Indian looking Males married to Western Girls and not many Indian girls (born and bred in the west) married to western guys.

I also see these Indian looking males dump their western looking girls, or even Indian looking Girls (born and bred In West) to fly back and marry a Desi once the citizenship is through?



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4172167.stm



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hamp ... 844779.stm

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Why again do I see so many Indian looking Males married to Western Girls and not many Indian girls (born and bred in the west) married to western guys.
I also see these Indian looking males dump their western looking girls, or even Indian looking Girls (born and bred In West) to fly back and marry a Desi once the citizenship is through?

typical indian double standards...everyone wants to be a mamma's boy back home...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/dorset/3844779.stm

well...that case has been closed and the murderer arrested.

Hannah Foster killer Kohli may be extradited to UK soon

New Delhi: Extradition proceedings have begun against Maninder Pal Singh Kohli, the prime accused in the rape and murder of British teenager Hannah Foster. A Delhi Court today sent him to judicial custody till September 17. Until then, the court will examine all the documents submitted by British police seeking Kohli's extradition to Britain where he will face a trial in the case. West Bengal police arrested Kohli on July 15. Chief Judicial Magistrate Paramvir Kaur Nirrjar has allowed CBI's plea to extend Kohli's judicial custody by two days and take him to the national capital to be produced before the extradition court. The CBI had earlier informed the court that the Centre has set up an extradition court with Additional Chief Metropolitan Magistrate Ravinder Dudeja as the Inquiry Magistrate after the Ministry of External Affairs received a plea from Britain for Kohli's extradition. -Sept 10, 2004

http://www.indiatraveltimes.com/crime/crime2004/sept04.html#3

[DQ]

Ask the D...K Head who posted about the One way rule if Maninder Pal Singh is an Arab.....he he.



Double standards or is there more to it, is it one of the side effects of liberation. Probe ....?

[CtrlAltDel]

Ask the D...K Head who posted about the One way rule if Maninder Pal Singh is an Arab.....he he.

are u confused or something? according to the so-called "One Way Rule" u are talking about, only muslim men have girlfriends/wives of other races/religions. muslim women are not expected to have same choice in their partners. how is the Mahinder Pal Singh incident related to this?

[DQ]

Your angst points to you asociating yourself with the d..k head. Ask him to calrify the one way rule. I will post the proofs I have about what I have penned.

[CtrlAltDel]

u have an one-track mind dont u? what u are saying and what lonewolf is saying are totally different things...

[lonewolf]

u have an one-track mind dont u? what u are saying and what lonewolf is saying are totally different things...

I stated a fact about Arab men and western women. There are hundreds, actually thousands of instances. Half of my Arab friends are married to western women, and that is not something that warrants DQ to use bad language while referring to me.



Why did DQ have to bring up some other totally irrelevant issue into the picture about Maninder Singh or whatever-is-his-name?



The problem with people like DQ is that if they can't find any valid argument to substantiate their statements, they stoop to personal attacks and bad language. Its no use trying a decent argument with people like DQ!



Facts are out there in the open. People like DQ behave like ostriches that shove their heads into the sand when they perceive something threatening.

[DQ]

Replace DQ with Lonewolf in what ever you have blurted. Look at your responses on each of the threads discussed.



The problem with people like Loney is they consider them selves pristine and the moment a stone is thrown they get shattered.



Instead of answering "typical Indian Double standard" why dont you come up with a logical argument?



Why do Indians Men marry western women and dump them for a Desi (Pati vrata) the moment they get their Residencies?

Not that I am supporting the Arabs, but they still stick to their relationships and try to integrate. I can show 100s of example of both scenarios.







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Self check before splurting

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Why do Indians Men marry western women and dump them for a Desi (Pati vrata) the moment they get their Residencies?

i told u...thats the typical indian male: wants to be a mamma's boy...i have seen so many in india itself: enjoy with girls etc in college and when it comes to marriage, bow their head silently in front of their parents. they have no balls.

Not that I am supporting the Arabs, but they still stick to their relationships and try to integrate. I can show 100s of example of both scenarios.

boss, his point is: why are arab/muslim women not allowed to marry non-muslims like the men do...

[DQ]

boss the all so "naive CAD, " it is the same question I asked, Why are Indian women not allowed to marry Western Guys ?



Her parents had abandoned her in Punjab five months earlier.



Keen for her to marry a man of their choice, her mother and father, who live in the north of England, had taken away Miss Kaur's travel documents, including her passport and ticket back to England.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4172167.stm



Shows you dint bother to go through the links I posted. Just want to carry on your rave right ////

[lonewolf]

it is the same question I asked, Why are Indian women not allowed to marry Western Guys ?

.....

Keen for her to marry a man of their choice, her mother and father, who live in the north of England, had taken away Miss Kaur's travel documents, including her passport and ticket back to England.

Stop tugging at Miss Kaur's skirts and concentrate on the current topic for once.



You're the worst "debater" I've ever come across, if what you spurt out can even be called a debate!!!



In any case, there are many Indian women married to western guys, for instance the late Kalpana Chawla who was from a very conservative family in Punjab, and she was married to an American. Some of the female Indian professors in my university are married to westerners. The immigrant Indian girls date westerners as well as Indians.



And stop cussing on the boards at least during Ramadan.

[DQ]

I see a lot of Arab (Jew, Muslim, Christian) women go around with Arab / Non Arab guys.



Get married and lead lives as you would expect any one else.



So?

[CtrlAltDel]

boss the all so "naive CAD, " it is the same question I asked, Why are Indian women not allowed to marry Western Guys ?

who said they arent? in my own family 2 of my relatives are married to white men...and believe it or not, my parents married off my own younger brother to a central asian muslim girl (few frm FHDB had come for the wedding reception), with her parent's permission.
broadminded families dont mind such things

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4172167.stm

Shows you dint bother to go through the links I posted. Just want to carry on your rave right ////

no one wud open yr link if they carry the same text u already posted...

dont post the article just give the link, then ppl wud read it. or like i do, just give some exerpts from the article and give the link to full article. gets better results that way!



how come u didnt use the word 'baja' now?

[lonewolf]

I see a lot of Arab (Jew, Muslim, Christian) women go around with Arab / Non Arab guys.

.... probably in your dreams...



The only Muslim woman I know, who is married to a Christian man, is living under death threats for the last 8 years, in Hyderabad. Her brother incidentally is married to a Christian woman and their marriage went without any problems.



Factual error - Jews are NOT Arabs. Arabs and Jews are semitic, but don't mistake Jews for Arabs! Judaism was first followed by Islam. Arabic is technically derived from Hebrew. Everything, even the name Al-Lah (The God) in Arabic is derived from Elohim in Hebrew. Arab Jews is a very wrong term. You'll get killed by either of them for making that stupid statement!

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Keen for her to marry a man of their choice, her mother and father, who live in the north of England, had taken away Miss Kaur's travel documents, including her passport and ticket back to England.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4172167.stm

you think her throat should have been slit instead like some of the muslim 'brethren' in england did last year? Please to read BBC onlee

Or here:

In the past four months, six Muslim women living in Berlin have been brutally murdered by family members. Their crime? Trying to break free and live Western lifestyles. Within their communities, the killers are revered as heroes for preserving their family dignity. How can such a horrific and shockingly archaic practice be flourishing in the heart of Europe? The deaths have sparked momentary outrage, but will they change the grim reality for Muslim women?

^^ This Idiot didnt read quran I guess. How dare he say that the woman of the perfect religion are being oppressed. Bloody westerners. They should read DQ's "women rights in islam thread" to understand how enlightened muslims are and how well they treat their women. Minor things like killing for dating non-muslims, stoning to death for talking to other men, or cutting of hands if they slip out of burqa should all be ignored. They are necessary to protect 'womens honor' in a kafir society.

Anyway, the turkish female had it coming... how dare she not wear head scarf and date kafirs

The vivacious 23-year-old beauty, who was raised in Berlin, divorced the Turkish cousin she was forced to marry at age 16. She also discarded her Islamic head scarf, enrolled in a technical school where she was training to become an electrician and began dating German men. For her family, such behavior represented the ultimate shame -- the embrace of "corrupt" Western ways.

From German paper.

or this

Muslim father of girl, 16, who had relationship outside her religion, subjected her to months of beatings before stabbing her repeatedly

From guardian.co.uk

[Mayavi Morpheus]

In any case, there are many Indian women married to western guys, for instance the late Kalpana Chawla who was from a very conservative family in Punjab, and she was married to an American. Some of the female Indian professors in my university are married to westerners. The immigrant Indian girls date westerners as well as Indians.

Just a FYI, our PM Manmohan singh's daughter is married to an american.

[DQ]

Why do we go all the Way to Berlin or London. Lets look at what happens here in our own backyard.



In July 1999 it was reported that a dalit woman was gang-raped and burnt alive in front of villagers in Bhavanipur village in Kanpur district of Uttar Pradesh. 17-year-old Usha Yadav [a caste Hindu] had eloped with the woman's son, a dalit boy, in June. The girl's father detained the boy's mother and brother-in-law in his house where the mother is reported to have been gang raped and tortured. She was then burnt alive

[CtrlAltDel]

Just a FYI, our PM Manmohan singh's daughter is married to an american.

hope that guy doesnt try to become our PM one day in the future...

[CtrlAltDel]

Why do we go all the Way to Berlin or London.

why? are they not devout muslims?

[lonewolf]

In July 1999

Do you have any recent incidents? You like to dig up once-in-a-few-years type of incidents. For every bi-Olympic incident you dig up, anyone who reads news can show you similar everyday incidents in certain other parts of the world.

[DQ]

Possibly Uch Jaati....

[CtrlAltDel]

what abt uch jaati sunnis killing neech jaati shia men and raping their women? such things happen with regular monotony in countries like pakistan...

[SeH]

Why do we go all the Way to Berlin or London. Lets look at what happens here in our own backyard.

In July 1999 it was reported that a dalit woman was gang-raped and burnt alive in front of villagers in Bhavanipur village in Kanpur district of Uttar Pradesh. 17-year-old Usha Yadav [a caste Hindu] had eloped with the woman's son, a dalit boy, in June. The girl's father detained the boy's mother and brother-in-law in his house where the mother is reported to have been gang raped and tortured. She was then burnt alive

Off topic let me ask you one simple question. Where r ur roots from? Have you ever been to rural India? If you were evr to rural India you would not dare debate on caste system that prevails in India. I am blessed, cuz thou my father was from a village, education saved him and of course me n my siblings to care a lil bout thiese things.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

what abt uch jaati sunnis killing neech jaati shia men and raping their women? such things happen with regular monotony in countries like pakistan...

its not uch jaati or neech jaati. Just the pure variety and kafir variety. If you are a Kafir, you are expendable. Tough luck pal.



Trivia: Do you know that pakistani ahmadiyas (a sect of muslims) cannot call their mosques a mosque because it offends sunni muslims! Its blasphemy!

[DQ]

In July 1999

Do you have any recent incidents? You like to dig up once-in-a-few-years type of incidents. For every bi-Olympic incident you dig up, anyone who reads news can show you similar everyday incidents in certain other parts of the world.

I said come out of your pristine state Mate.



Dalit woman gangraped in temple complex; four arrested

Newindpress, India - 2 Oct 2005





Dalit women paraded naked in Orissa

Deccan Herald, India - 23 Sep 2005

A group of Dalit women belonging to the barber community have allegedly been paraded naked by upper-caste people in a coastal village on Monday last. ...



5 Dalit women gangraped in Jehanabad village

Times of India, India - 25 Sep 2005

JEHANABAD: Property worth over Rs 3 lakh was looted and five women, including a 15-year old girl, all belonging to Dalit families, were gangraped by armed ...