To help the people who are in need of us

[plasma]

i am new to these discussion boards,but surely did see how u people interact with each other,so i thought why not take up the initiate and speak what i have in mind.well guys,why dont we all put up a organisation kinda thing and help OLD and the POOR who really need us,rather than discussing things.there are people who are left in old age homes and soem people who have nobody to care about them,why dont we do something good to the society???.if u people do like the idea,just pour in.believe me,its going to be really great.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Plasma, IIRC Anil Kumar(?) is starting a Old Age home. If you are serious about what you posted, you can contact him. There is a board started by him, check it.
<br>While its a good idea to start an organization to help those in need, its not always advisable. There are plenty of Social sevice organisations and NGO\'s which are gathering money and doing the needfull. So it would be better if we just assocaite ourselves with some of the existing societies depending on what you want to do and work for them. For example, if you want to work for the poor orphan kids then CRY is a good organization, you can talk to them and and ask what you can do or you can just send money and they\'ll put it do good use.
<br>When you dont find any organization that fits your beliefs, ideals or not doing what you want to do (Dalit rights), then you can think of starting a new NGO.

[DQ]

Donno what can be done about this. The sickening caste system.



I would await an answer from those who purport that they follow an ever evolving relegion.



The Indian constitution has gone all out to protect the rights of the down trodden but like it or not the system exists.



There is no point in mudslinging other communities, faming them walled off, or the Vote bank.



Dig deep within what every individual beleives and try to rectify whats at fault.



There is no point in shrugging off by saying ....AH Uh we are evolving. Indirectly meaning we have no leader.



Ah its hypocrisy to the core. EVER evolving !!! And then the way we evolve is, by fighting for customs that we followed 5000 years back.

By walling ourselves off to Valentines day.

By doing nothing about the prevailing caste system.

By doing nothing about those fundamentalists who burn communities down. (Evolution Ah).



Dont continue to shift the blame. Here is a Article for you to ponder.

Article in THE AGE.



A low-caste Hindu man in India has been chained to the veranda of his house for more than two years after fellow villagers declared him insane, according to The Times of India newspaper.



Upendra Naik, 32, was declared mentally unsound in July 2003 after villagers said he stole a trident from a temple in their village, near the town of Kendrapara in the eastern state of Orissa.



They also said he was violent and often hit residents.



"I am an innocent person," Naik, a Dalit - as Hinduism's lowest "untouchable" caste is now known - was quoted as saying.



"But some unscrupulous villagers have chained my legs."



Naik's wife, after failing to get him freed, has moved back to her parents' house, and Naik's father now brings him meals in the veranda, which is regularly drenched by monsoon rains.



Authorities said they had tried to take Naik to a hospital for a check-up but were stopped by villagers.



"Nobody is ready to accompany Upendra to the hospital," social welfare officer Anjali Das was quoted as saying.



Villagers in India often dish out their own brand of justice, even if it goes against the country's secular and liberal constitution, and Dalits are often the victims.

(and the system and the ever evolvers turn a blind eye. Bah)



In May, a government school in impoverished Bihar state stopped serving lunch to its students because Dalit women were cooking the desserts before two Yadavs, a cow-herd caste, objected.

[betty]

Donno what can be done about this. The sickening caste system.
I would await an answer from those who purport that they follow an ever evolving relegion.

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DQ, did you post in a wrong thread by any chance?

I suppose Plasma was talking about old and poor people...

why dont we all put up a organisation kinda thing and help OLD and the POOR who really need us

Can you please stop jumping the gun and really see what the topic is before you start writing your hate-posts?

I suppose BW's response is best used for posts like these :

eh, kya?

[CtrlAltDel]

yaar! u cud've started a new thread instead of posting in an irrelavant one

Dig deep within what every individual beleives and try to rectify whats at fault.

that applies to all, dont u think?

...we are evolving. Indirectly meaning we have no leader.

eh? kya? u writing a new dictionary?

e·volve

v. e·volved, e·volv·ing, e·volves
v. tr.

To develop or achieve gradually: evolve a style of one's own.
To work (something) out; devise: “the schemes he evolved to line his purse” (S.J. Perelman).
Biology. To develop (a characteristic) by evolutionary processes.
To give off; emit.

v. intr.
To undergo gradual change; develop: an amateur acting group that evolved into a theatrical company.
Biology. To develop or arise through evolutionary processes.

Ah its hypocrisy to the core. EVER evolving !!!
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the thing abt evolving is to accept that faults exist and fighting to reform society. since age old beleifs are being modified, it will take time to change all mindset and cannot happen over night. at least in urban areas, the system has more or less disappeared. only thru "secular education" would everyone "evolve" into individuals with modern thought and ideas.



at least the evolvers do not believe that they have no faults and cannot change ancient ideas that might have suited that particular period...if our ancient ancestors thot that way, we wud still be crawling on all fours gathering roots and hunting...

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Villagers in India often dish out their own brand of justice, even if it goes against the country's secular and liberal constitution, and Dalits are often the victims.
(and the system and the ever evolvers turn a blind eye. Bah)

I thought I will not enter into an arguement with an idiot like you, for its an insult to my intellect, but since you continue to crap everywhere with your idiotic rantings without any understanding whatsoever of what your are fighting for, I thought I would reply. I am not very articulate, so I would be blunt.



Yes, Indian villagers do dish out their own brand of justice and they all use religious card to justify their actions, but it doesnt say anything about religion. If the religion itself was not evolving, then all the injusticies perpetrated in the name of religion would be justified for it had been the practice since ages.



Take your brethren to the west of border (your loving pakis), the crimes they comit in the name of religion are countless. A man comits adultery and his wife is gang raped by entire village!! Is that religion?? Everyone of you would be shouting from the roof tops that the sharia doesnt permit it, but the fact is that they are (mis)using it to pass such judgement, just like the hindus. Be brave to accept it and fight against it.



Why go to pakistan, you have glorius examples in India itself. A woman is raped by her in-law and the religious experts ask her to divorce her husband! A girl is stopped from playing tennis in skirts and well educated men blow up theselves up and kill others. All these are adherents of your religion, who is to blame? All these people are justifying their actions using religion, and there are people who think such actions are justified. Whose fault is it? Is it just the individual or is it some shortcoming of the religion?



If you dont have short comings in your religion, then you would have the whole world following your religion, which is not the case - It is not the perfect solution, which means it has room to evolve. But to evolve you need to accept that there are short comings.



Nothing man made is perfect in this world - Evolution is the only path to perfection. What is good for one era, may not be good for another era. If you continue to follow a set of strict stinking laws from stone age which you think are perfect, then your life would be that of a stone age man, at odds with everything modern around you.



But if you think that the only purpose god created you is to worship him (as a post-it in my next cubicle says) and all you want to do in your life is to live like the prophet and worship god, then you are nothing but a slave and your existence is not justified.

[DQ]

Villagers in India often dish out their own brand of justice, even if it goes against the country's secular and liberal constitution, and Dalits are often the victims.
(and the system and the ever evolvers turn a blind eye. Bah)

I thought I will not enter into an arguement with an idiot like you, for its an insult to my intellect, but since you continue to crap everywhere with your idiotic rantings without any understanding whatsoever of what your are fighting for, I thought I would reply. I am not very articulate, so I would be blunt.

Yes, Indian villagers do dish out their own brand of justice and they all use religious card to justify their actions, but it doesnt say anything about religion. If the religion itself was not evolving, then all the injusticies perpetrated in the name of religion would be justified for it had been the practice since ages.

Take your brethren to the west of border (your loving pakis), the crimes they comit in the name of religion are countless. A man comits adultery and his wife is gang raped by entire village!! Is that religion?? Everyone of you would be shouting from the roof tops that the sharia doesnt permit it, but the fact is that they are (mis)using it to pass such judgement, just like the hindus. Be brave to accept it and fight against it.

Why go to pakistan, you have glorius examples in India itself. A woman is raped by her in-law and the religious experts ask her to divorce her husband! A girl is stopped from playing tennis in skirts and well educated men blow up theselves up and kill others. All these are adherents of your religion, who is to blame? All these people are justifying their actions using religion, and there are people who think such actions are justified. Whose fault is it? Is it just the individual or is it some shortcoming of the religion?

If you dont have short comings in your religion, then you would have the whole world following your religion, which is not the case - It is not the perfect solution, which means it has room to evolve. But to evolve you need to accept that there are short comings.

Nothing man made is perfect in this world - Evolution is the only path to perfection. What is good for one era, may not be good for another era. If you continue to follow a set of strict stinking laws from stone age which you think are perfect, then your life would be that of a stone age man, at odds with everything modern around you.

But if you think that the only purpose god created you is to worship him (as a post-it in my next cubicle says) and all you want to do in your life is to live like the prophet and worship god, then you are nothing but a slave and your existence is not justified.

Huh you and your usual "rant". I thought you were getting it treated, its getting worse by the day.





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Tie a white thread and ring a bell, keep ringing about evolution and the moment some one from a different caste drinks water of your well. Close the well even if the whole viillage has to die dry.

[DQ]

Can you please stop jumping the gun and really see what the topic is before you start writing your hate-posts?

Hate Posts

[DQ]

yaar! u cud've started a new thread instead of posting in an irrelavant one

No the reply to the first post shows the mental balance of some of the people on these boards. And that sort of disorder shows even then.

Dig deep within what every individual beleives and try to rectify whats at fault.

that applies to all, dont u think?

Did I specify any one here, Just think first please..



For the rest of you bang bang bung.



Read, think , reflect and come back.



1 Answer - Betty calling it a hate past ...haw haw haw haw. ( A fact in all major newspapers is a hate post.



2. CAD - No mention of post some ridicilous logic. read and comprehend.



3. MM - Same old rant. Get OCD treated.

[betty]

1 Answer - Betty calling it a hate past ...haw haw haw haw. ( A fact in all major newspapers is a hate post.

Correction, I called it an off-topic hate-post. It might be in all the 'major' newspapers, but it has no right to be in a thread about helping the 'poor' and 'old' people. Really DQ, how desperate, irritating and repetitive can you get that you keep making posts denouncing hinduism in each and every thread you see?

[DQ]

1 Answer - Betty calling it a hate post ...haw haw haw haw. ( A fact in all major newspapers is a hate post.

Correction, I called it an off-topic hate-post. It might be in all the 'major' newspapers, but it has no right to be in a thread about helping the 'poor' and 'old' people. Really DQ, how desperate, irritating and repetitive can you get that you keep making posts denouncing hinduism in each and every thread you see?

Off Topic, Look at the second reply on this thread.



Dalit Rights, where did they pop in ?



I cant help if you find my post as something denouncing hinduism. Where In the world does my this post or any other post reflect that. Bring it up generally or categorically.



Woow the nerve to say denouncing a religion. Haw

[betty]

Correction, I called it an off-topic hate-post.

Off Topic, Look at the second reply on this thread.

Dalit Rights, where did they pop in ?

The second reply says that there are already NGOs helping people in need, but even then if the person who started this thread wants to start an organization for some other reason, like Dalit rights, then he can do so.

I cant help if you find my post as something denouncing hinduism. Where In the world does my this post or any other post reflect that. Bring it up generally or categorically.

Woow the nerve to say denouncing a religion. Haw

Aha...the nerve eh?

Well, if you are not denouncing a religion, then why do you search and post links to such news? Or maybe I got it wrong - you are actually trying to say that islam is the best and in the process, pulling down other religions? Or maybe you are trying online conversions to your religion....who knows, with the advancement in technology, everything is possible...anyways whatever be your motive, your moves are the same - a systematic posting of some news/views/links in all threads (on any topic) about superiority of Islam/inferiority of other religions.

[DQ]

Requesting a Self Check.......Look at my responses. And look at other members of the boards and their rants. Maybe check some of your own.



Conversion. Who gave you that weird idea ?

[Proud to be a Hindu HP]

Off Topic, Look at the second reply on this thread.

Dalit Rights, where did they pop in ?

Betty has already answered this.

if you find my post as something denouncing hinduism. Where In the world does my this post or any other post reflect that. Bring it up generally or categorically.

Woow the nerve to say denouncing a religion. Haw

And pray tell us what you meant when you said this...

I would await an answer from those who purport that they follow an ever evolving relegion...........

Which religion were you pointing towards?





And DQ...there was this thread where I had a debate with someone known as proud_dalit (any relative of yours?) and I'd invited him over for a proper debate on the religious edicts and their interpretations on the caste system. I feel I should extend the scope to a more holistic "Relevance of religion in today's world" and invite you over for a debate. You were prompt in condemning CAD when he made a remark or two as per his limited knowledge of Islam. Let me ask you this - where does your knowledge vis-a-vis Hinduism stand and what's your authority when you talk ill of the caste system? Do you really know what you're talking about?

[mark]

i am new to these discussion boards,but surely did see how u people interact with each other,so i thought why not take up the initiate and speak what i have in mind.well guys,why dont we all put up a organisation kinda thing and help OLD and the POOR who really need us,rather than discussing things.there are people who are left in old age homes and soem people who have nobody to care about them,why dont we do something good to the society???.if u people do like the idea,just pour in.believe me,its going to be really great.

are you proposing that we use old people as a source of fuel? cos if you are thn i like your style..

[CtrlAltDel]

are you proposing that we use old people as a source of fuel? cos if you are thn i like your style..

not a bad idea...we'd be assured of an unending supply of Natural Gas...

[akhilis2cool]

are you proposing that we use old people as a source of fuel? cos if you are thn i like your style..

not a bad idea...we'd be assured of an unending supply of Natural Gas...

Smelly natural gas...

[HH]

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[mark]

are you proposing that we use old people as a source of fuel? cos if you are thn i like your style..

not a bad idea...we'd be assured of an unending supply of Natural Gas...

ah, you're talking about farming them for natural gas? i was suggesting incineration for instant energy. your way might be more sustainable but my way's more fun. and we could use the ash for fertiliser too.

[rock_26iin]

are you proposing that we use old people as a source of fuel? cos if you are thn i like your style..

not a bad idea...we'd be assured of an unending supply of Natural Gas...

ah, you're talking about farming them for natural gas? i was suggesting incineration for instant energy. your way might be more sustainable but my way's more fun. and we could use the ash for fertiliser too.

i agree but we should bleed them slowly first........the blood banks are running short on blood here

[labelle]

guys what are you all upto! the guy who posted the topic at first said something good and we need to appreciate it! and what r we doing mudslinging! why get the caste and religion into something that has nothing to do with the topic even remotely. guys grow up!

[smrithi]

guys what are you all upto! the guy who posted the topic at first said something good and we need to appreciate it! and what r we doing mudslinging! why get the caste and religion into something that has nothing to do with the topic even remotely. guys grow up!

they r guyz n guyz dont grow up ;)

[mark]

guys what are you all upto! the guy who posted the topic at first said something good and we need to appreciate it! and what r we doing mudslinging! why get the caste and religion into something that has nothing to do with the topic even remotely. guys grow up!

i was proposing a serious solution to the problem of the elderly - kill them and use their bodies for energy and fertiliser. seriously the guy's "idea" was to help OLD and POOR, but no real indication of what the hell he was going to do.

[HH]

They Ask For "Help" ...
Dogs Reply, "Whelp, Whelp, WHELP!"

[DQ]

And DQ...there was this thread where I had a debate with someone known as proud_dalit (any relative of yours?) and I'd invited him over for a proper debate on the religious edicts and their interpretations on the caste system. I feel I should extend the scope to a more holistic "Relevance of religion in today's world" and invite you over for a debate. You were prompt in condemning CAD when he made a remark or two as per his limited knowledge of Islam. Let me ask you this - where does your knowledge vis-a-vis Hinduism stand and what's your authority when you talk ill of the caste system? Do you really know what you're talking about?

Not to very concerned in what you feel about discussions with P_D.



about relevance of relegion, its your choice if you would want to probe that my friend.



Pray can all those who bray, tell me where in the world have I spoken about Hinduism. One article and all you go Gung Ho. Hinduism, trishul etc etc.



With a cool mind read the article, and comment on it rather then presuming and comming up in defence of something thats not being discussed at all. And if you beleive that casteism is an integral part of Hinduism come up with that and we will talk about it. (sometime somewhere someone on these very boards denounced casteism as being part of hindusim altogether.)