india plz learn from australia Get out of Australia, 'radica

[smrithi]

Get out of Australia, 'radical' Muslims told



By Lawrence Bartlett in Sydney

Wednesday, 24 August , 2005, 13:11



Muslims who want to live under the Islamic Sharia law were told Wednesday to get out of Australia as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.



A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.



Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament.



"If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television.



"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that that is false."



"If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts,democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country which practises it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.



Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked move to the other country.



Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off".



"Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said.



Muslim schools will have to denounce terrorism as part of an effort to stamp out home-grown extremism under measures announced after Howard's meeting with 14 Islamic leaders Tuesday.



The prime minister called the meeting in the wake of last month's London bombings by British-born Muslims, amid fears that Australia could be the target of a similar attack by disaffected members of its small Muslim community.



"The purpose of the meeting was to identify ways of preventing the emergence of any terrorist behaviour in this country," Howard told commercial radio Wednesday.



"You won't change the minds of people who are hardened fanatics and hardened extremists. You have to identify them and take measures to ensure that they don't become a problem."



Asked if he was prepared to "get inside" mosques and schools to ensure there was no support for terrorism, Howard said: "Yes, to the extent necessary".



Britain, shaken by the rail and bus bombings which killed 56 people, is debating new powers which could include closing mosques where clerics are suspected of supporting extremists and deporting those who glorify suicide bombers.



Australia, which like Britain has troops in Iraq, is also contemplating tougher anti-terror legislation. which will be debated next month at a meeting between Howard and leaders of state governments.



Meanwhile, an Islamic youth organisation that was not invited to Howard's Tuesday meeting said it would call an alternative conference -- on September 11 -- for what it says is the 80 percent of Muslims who were not represented.



The Affinity Intercultural Foundation (AIF) told national radio it wants to try to change the date's association with Islamic violence, and to highlight how mainstream Muslims have become victims of prejudice and bias.



AIF director Mehmet Saral said Muslims were feeling more victimised than at any other time in their history of living in Australia. Some 300,000 Muslims make up just 1.5 percent of Australia's population of 20 million.

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Get out of Australia, 'radical' Muslims told

By Lawrence Bartlett in Sydney
Wednesday, 24 August , 2005, 13:11

Muslims who want to live under the Islamic Sharia law were told Wednesday to get out of Australia as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament.

"If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that that is false."

"If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts,democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country which practises it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked move to the other country.

Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off".

"Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said.

Muslim schools will have to denounce terrorism as part of an effort to stamp out home-grown extremism under measures announced after Howard's meeting with 14 Islamic leaders Tuesday.

The prime minister called the meeting in the wake of last month's London bombings by British-born Muslims, amid fears that Australia could be the target of a similar attack by disaffected members of its small Muslim community.

"The purpose of the meeting was to identify ways of preventing the emergence of any terrorist behaviour in this country," Howard told commercial radio Wednesday.

"You won't change the minds of people who are hardened fanatics and hardened extremists. You have to identify them and take measures to ensure that they don't become a problem."

Asked if he was prepared to "get inside" mosques and schools to ensure there was no support for terrorism, Howard said: "Yes, to the extent necessary".

Britain, shaken by the rail and bus bombings which killed 56 people, is debating new powers which could include closing mosques where clerics are suspected of supporting extremists and deporting those who glorify suicide bombers.

Australia, which like Britain has troops in Iraq, is also contemplating tougher anti-terror legislation. which will be debated next month at a meeting between Howard and leaders of state governments.

Meanwhile, an Islamic youth organisation that was not invited to Howard's Tuesday meeting said it would call an alternative conference -- on September 11 -- for what it says is the 80 percent of Muslims who were not represented.

The Affinity Intercultural Foundation (AIF) told national radio it wants to try to change the date's association with Islamic violence, and to highlight how mainstream Muslims have become victims of prejudice and bias.

AIF director Mehmet Saral said Muslims were feeling more victimised than at any other time in their history of living in Australia. Some 300,000 Muslims make up just 1.5 percent of Australia's population of 20 million.

I totally agree with you..... all the radicals should not only leave australia or india but the world, All radicals including Muslim.... Hindu...... Christian...... Sikh....... Parsi....... etc etc , WE WANT A PEACEFUL WORLD

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I nearly replied, but then realised. Either Mayavis OCD is contagious or Mayavi has transfused into a smrithi

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Get out of Australia, 'radical' Muslims told
"Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said.

Ah umm err are we talking about "Indeginous Values" or Values spread through years of Invasion. Let me quote Mr Zakaria.



So, deport the Muslims ........, and in return Christian Anglo-Saxons should be expelled from Australia, Canada, New Zealand, America, Caribbean, South Africa, Zimbabwe etc where they have not integrated, they have refused to learn the language despite living their for years, refused to accept the desirability of the indigenous peoples culture and practises, and have instead used violence and extremism, preached hate for their neighbour, totally destroyed "their way of life," and abused their hosts hospitality. We welcome your bold and courageous steps, and welcome your applying these rules consistently across all such extremist, violent and racist communities wherever they are. Also don't forget to close all the embassies and remove the military bases and the multinational companies from the Islamic world.

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As far as India is concerned we are way ahead in this war Mayavi ...ulp Smrithi. UK shot only one Menenzes, our police have shot quite a few "So called Extremists"

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UK shot only one Menenzes, our police have shot quite a few "So called Extremists"

u mean innocents like those Jaish e Mohammad activists recently? they shudnt have been shot...it wud have been better to chop of their arms and airdrop them back to pakistan.

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UK shot only one Menenzes, our police have shot quite a few "So called Extremists"

u mean innocents like those Jaish e Mohammad activists recently? they shudnt have been shot...it wud have been better to chop of their arms and airdrop them back to pakistan.

I thought we were fighting Al Qaeda and Taliban and their likes since when did we start inculcating their practices. Or is that the same evil exists every where, it just wears a name ****Wears his cap and walks whistling in the wind*****

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I nearly replied, but then realised. Either Mayavis OCD is contagious or Mayavi has transfused into a smrithi

No, I thought Smrithi was xeno's 'hindu -loving' counterpart....



Now do you understand how it is when someone is extremist in their views?

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UK shot only one Menenzes, our police have shot quite a few "So called Extremists"

u mean innocents like those Jaish e Mohammad activists recently? they shudnt have been shot...it wud have been better to chop of their arms and airdrop them back to pakistan.

I thought we were fighting Al Qaeda and Taliban and their likes since when did we start inculcating their practices. Or is that the same evil exists every where, it just wears a name ****Wears his cap and walks whistling in the wind*****

so u agree its better to have them shot...???? and they were no innocent bystanders...

[lizardking]

Get out of Australia, 'radical' Muslims told
"Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said.

Ah umm err are we talking about "Indeginous Values" or Values spread through years of Invasion. Let me quote Mr Zakaria.

So, deport the Muslims ........, and in return Christian Anglo-Saxons should be expelled from Australia, Canada, New Zealand, America, Caribbean, South Africa, Zimbabwe etc where they have not integrated, they have refused to learn the language despite living their for years, refused to accept the desirability of the indigenous peoples culture and practises, and have instead used violence and extremism, preached hate for their neighbour, totally destroyed "their way of life," and abused their hosts hospitality. We welcome your bold and courageous steps, and welcome your applying these rules consistently across all such extremist, violent and racist communities wherever they are. Also don't forget to close all the embassies and remove the military bases and the multinational companies from the Islamic world.

i agree with u, on this point.

[smrithi]

Ah umm err are we talking about "Indeginous Values" or Values spread through years of Invasion.

indeginous values huh ??? wat about muslim invaders in india ?? they killed so many inocent hindus and converted many ..... including ur gret gret grandparens . wat abt u ??? sum generrations back u were hindu --- maybe reddy or naidu or choudhary . now u hav amnesia n dont remembr UR indeginous valuez . u r intrested in other muslim countries bt dont care for hindu pandits in kashmir or other hindu bashing occassions . where is ur ORIGINAL INDEGINIOUS VALUES gone dq anna ???

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Ah umm err are we talking about "Indeginous Values" or Values spread through years of Invasion.

indeginous values ....anna ???

Smriti, Maybe you have sand in your ass.. that has irritated you so much. Calm down.. get a life or something.. maybe get an enema. Its a nice time to consider one... what with you looking so constipated and bloated these days.

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I nearly replied, but then realised. Either Mayavis OCD is contagious or Mayavi has transfused into a smrithi

No, I thought Smrithi was xeno's 'hindu -loving' counterpart....

Now do you understand how it is when someone is extremist in their views?

Are you bein smitten by the OCD tooooo

[Xeno]

UK shot only one Menenzes, our police have shot quite a few "So called Extremists"

u mean innocents like those Jaish e Mohammad activists recently? they shudnt have been shot...it wud have been better to chop of their arms and airdrop them back to pakistan.

If they were indeed JeM activits I would have agreed with your sadistic instincts ,but all such cases are cheap tricks by either politicians to gain votes or anti muslims police officials to get promotions..

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UK shot only one Menenzes, our police have shot quite a few "So called Extremists"

u mean innocents like those Jaish e Mohammad activists recently? they shudnt have been shot...it wud have been better to chop of their arms and airdrop them back to pakistan.

I thought we were fighting Al Qaeda and Taliban and their likes since when did we start inculcating their practices. Or is that the same evil exists every where, it just wears a name ****Wears his cap and walks whistling in the wind*****

so u agree its better to have them shot...???? and they were no innocent bystanders...

Oh ok so this is how even the police justify these shootings is it?

[smrithi]

Ah umm err are we talking about "Indeginous Values" or Values spread through years of Invasion.

indeginous values ....anna ???

Smriti, Maybe you have sand in your ass.. that has irritated you so much. Calm down.. get a life or something.. maybe get an enema. Its a nice time to consider one... what with you looking so constipated and bloated these days.

u know ....... cad anna wil give me enema . BUT how 'bout u ?? u still want ur rock solid shit inside ur azzhole ? clean it out asli annaiah or else u wil die n we all wil mizz u

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UK shot only one Menenzes, our police have shot quite a few "So called Extremists"

u mean innocents like those Jaish e Mohammad activists recently? they shudnt have been shot...it wud have been better to chop of their arms and airdrop them back to pakistan.

If they were indeed JeM activits I would have agreed with your sadistic instincts ,but all such cases are cheap tricks by either politicians to gain votes or anti muslims police officials to get promotions..

how do u know they were not? i prefer to believe the police, esp since the shootings all happened in non-BJP states that wont dare do such things in purpose. cops wont take such action without gathering intelligence and facing a situation where they have to shoot.



and an appeal to Xeno...please ask your girlfriend/alter ago Smrithi to restrain herself...

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u know ....... cad anna wil give me enema . BUT how 'bout u ?? u still want ur rock solid shit inside ur azzhole ? clean it out asli annaiah or else u wil die n we all wil mizz u

smrithi, u seem to have an enema fetish...are u into BDSM n all that?

[smrithi]

u know ....... cad anna wil give me enema . BUT how 'bout u ?? u still want ur rock solid shit inside ur azzhole ? clean it out asli annaiah or else u wil die n we all wil mizz u

smrithi, u seem to have an enema fetish...are u into BDSM n all that?

im nt really bdsm but since they brot da topic of ass n sand n crabs i thot ill go wid their flow