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by Xeno » Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:32 am

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by Mayavi Morpheus » Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:48 am

hhahaa.... thanks xeno, this was the site I was searching for since last three days but couldnt find it. When you first posted that ramayana = porno thing, I immediately knew where you were quoting from. This site has all the guidelines how to deal with hindus eh? Nice. I always knew you are not intelligent/capable/educated enough of commenting on 'religion', be it your religion or other religions and you need a hand book to deal with people. But then, everything you do is derived from a book, so no big surprise there.



Dealing with Hindu Heretics

Do not proceed if you are not accustomed to adult content. The following information is highly offensive. These verses are to be used ONLY when Hindus attack you with false, offensive and sex-oriented and unverified information about Islam, Muslims or the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him). Do not unnecessarily hurt anyone with this information. Use it ONLY when handling bigots. God has said in the Holy Quran that He does not love transgressors. We are not to be the instigators of violence. Use these as a weapon only when you are on the defensive and Hindus have crossed the line.




As for commenting on the original post, it is futile to comment on ones impressions. If the original text from based on which these opinions are formed are quoted, even if its out of context :wink: , then it makes sense to respond to those comments.



ps: Some of the things in there are true, some are altered and almsot all have wrong conclusions.
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by DQ » Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:52 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:If the original text from based on which these opinions are formed are quoted, even if its out of context :wink: ,




Ah so there is something known as Out of Context...he he he
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:54 am

DQ wrote:Ah so there is something known as Out of Context...he he he




DQ, you know, there is something called SARCASM, ever heard of it? http://www.m-w.com. Click on it and you will know its meaning. The gas is on you buddy.
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by Xeno » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:01 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
DQ wrote:Ah so there is something known as Out of Context...he he he


DQ, you know, there is something called SARCASM, ever heard of it? http://www.m-w.com. Click on it and you will know its meaning. The gas is on you buddy.




Yeha really out of context from what.. I mean you and CAD were banging your heads that there is no book to go by,no verse, and that Hinduism is "evolving"..now what is the context of those practices in Hindu society and its written by a Hindu ,now I dont want to post the contents of the book written by a Hindu...
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by DQ » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:05 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
DQ wrote:Ah so there is something known as Out of Context...he he he


DQ, you know, there is something called SARCASM, ever heard of it? http://www.m-w.com. Click on it and you will know its meaning. The gas is on you buddy.




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by CtrlAltDel » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:18 am

well atleast the brahmin boys dont divorce their wives by getting them raped by their dads as sanctioned u know where...:lol:
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by Xeno » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:21 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:well atleast the brahmin boys dont divorce their wives by getting them raped by their dads as sanctioned u know where...:lol:




Hmm...What if I prove that the Brahmin boys gods did that ..from the verses of your scriptures,I dont want to do that....
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:31 am

1. Read my response to DQ's post.



2. If you cannot substantiate the claims, and you dont want to read hindu scriptures which you are quoting, then is it prudent to comment on them?



3. Every hindu has his own opinion and understanding of religion and the scriptures. There is no hard and stead fast rule which is why you have so many gods and so many sects. Hinduism may not confirm to the notions of other religions and may be quite liberal. It doesnt proscribe a 'code of conduct' on the followers unlike other religions. So the said person, if indeed he is hindu (what does it take me to post here under a muslim name?), he is welcome to have his opinion. He will still be a hindu and no one will declare a fatwa on him and kill him just because his opinions are contrary to the major beliefs.



4. Most of the hindu beliefs may and scriptues may seem to be contradicting your 'moral beliefs' but not to me, just like your beliefs are contradicting mine.



5. If the concept of worshipping female form in hindu scriptures and the veneration of female beauty is revolting to you, then so is your concept of women having to wear abhayas so that their sons, brothers dont have orgasms is equally revolting to me. We are at two extremes. You can only appreciate/follow/understand such concepts if you were born and raised with the religion or follow it. To each his/her own.
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by CtrlAltDel » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:32 am

Xeno wrote:Hmm...What if I prove that the Brahmin boys gods did that ..from the verses of your scriptures,I dont want to do that....
u mean Gods raped the brahmin's wives? tell me...tell me...:D



i dunno abt rape but i know a few tales of Gods having sex with married human ladies (frisntance Lord Indra had many such affairs). they are shown as having their weaknesses and are also shown to have been punished for it.



lots of devotional songs (i have heard a few in tamil) scold gods for various acts.



on topic: why only By Dr Gupta Srivatsa, many hindus too do it. the communists routinely do it. some of my cousins do it. i did the same after the babri incident and gujrat riots. i have fought abused a few priests when they showed a hint of casteism in front of me.



this freedom to critisize and differ is allowed and such people are not excommunicated or killed. instead of blindly following what is taught it is always better to question and "evolve".



staying still without any possibility of change is called "stagnating" in the english dictionary.
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:37 am

DQ wrote:Waste of Conative Energy. Brood...


Therein lies the proble. You are not understanding others posts because you are not referring to english dictionaries (quran compatible Islamic english dictionary may be? ).
sarcasm means

# A form of wit that is marked by the use of sarcastic language and is intended to make its victim the butt of contempt or ridicule.


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- Do Girja ghar ka girana.




YOu know, the worst black day of all black days was not mahatma's murder or babri demolition, but its the murder of a nation in the name of religion the consequences of which we are still suffering. I respect my muslim friends too much to remind you what it is.
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by lonewolf » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:38 am

Why is Xeno not banned yet? As far as I know, many others in fullhyd were temporarily/permanently banned for less nasty hate filled posts.
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by ycr007 » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:40 am

What is Xeno trying to Prove here by Posting this 12 Year Old Article? :? :?
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by Xeno » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:47 am

ycr007 wrote:What is Xeno trying to Prove here by Posting this 12 Year Old Article? :? :?




Oh yeah I forgot Hinduism is evolving ,12 years is a too much of a time to be in "context" with the present form ...Yawwwwn so whats the score now...
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by lonewolf » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:48 am

ycr007 wrote:What is Xeno trying to Prove here by Posting this 12 Year Old Article? :? :?




He's trying for an internship with Al-Qaeda.
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by DQ » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:53 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:Hinduism may not confirm to the notions of other religions and may be quite liberal.




I hate to dwell in this arguement cause I have limited knowledge of the relegion. But let I dont get the meaning here. What does liberal mean?



- I have seen my own friends getting drunk and peeing on images of Gods, who the next day they bow their heads and are ready to lay their lifes for.



- Not only lay their lives ready to take others life like (Graham Staines)



- I have heard friends wait for occassions like Navratri / Holi so that they can indulge/flirt with others wifes / sisters / mothers.



- To my horror I heard the "weekly poojary" who used to visit our office talk about (wether concoted or true) having an "sexual relationship" with the Business owners wife. I dare not report it he was so reverred that business on friday could not proceed until he has performed Pooja and blessed the SAFE. I stopped wishing him after noticing the utter callousness with which he narrated his stories.



I am not trying to slander, there are more real life examples. I just wanted to find out is this what is meant as acceptable and liberal
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by CtrlAltDel » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:53 am

lonewolf wrote:
ycr007 wrote:What is Xeno trying to Prove here by Posting this 12 Year Old Article? :? :?
He's trying for an internship with Al-Qaeda.
cummon...even Al Qaeda wont take dumb kids....:lol:
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:54 am

Xeno wrote:.Yawwwwn so whats the score now...




oh goodie, you are keeping score? This is unfair man, why didnt you tell me. All the while you were coming up with your 'un-biased articles' and scoring points and I was beeing stupid to just use quran to base my opinions. Dyaaamn... I will also refer to my "Hindu Handbook to deal with Islamists" and come up with some articles abt Islam and muslims. But looks like I am gonna win this one. I am yet to begin and you have already given your best shot (which, btw, are quotes from Aisha :wink: ). :mrgreen:
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by Xeno » Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:58 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
Xeno wrote:.Yawwwwn so whats the score now...


oh goodie, you are keeping score? This is unfair man, why didnt you tell me. All the while you were coming up with your 'un-biased articles' and scoring points and I was beeing stupid to just use quran to base my opinions. Dyaaamn... I will also refer to my "Hindu Handbook to deal with Islamists" and come up with some articles abt Islam and muslims. But looks like I am gonna win this one. I am yet to begin and you have already given your best shot (which, btw, are quotes from Aisha :wink: ). :mrgreen:




Will wait for your rant to comeup and take it up tomorrow....until then may the fries be with you(real curly ones)........Yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn
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by CtrlAltDel » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:04 am

DQ wrote:- I have seen my own friends getting drunk and peeing on images of Gods, who the next day they bow their heads and are ready to lay their lifes for.
..and i have seen people spray beer on pictures of God too. if they do that its their problem.
DQ wrote:- Not only lay their lives ready to take others life like (Graham Staines)
oh yeah...somewhat like Jaish-e-Mohammad taking the life of Daniel Pearl...!
DQ wrote:- I have heard friends wait for occassions like Navratri / Holi so that they can indulge/flirt with others wifes / sisters / mothers.
and we flirt in weddings too...there has to be some occassions where harmless flirting is allowed...whats wrong in it...? :D
DQ wrote:- To my horror I heard the "weekly poojary" who used to visit our office talk about (wether concoted or true) having an "sexual relationship" with the Business owners wife. I dare not report it he was so reverred that business on friday could not proceed until he has performed Pooja and blessed the SAFE. I stopped wishing him after noticing the utter callousness with which he narrated his stories.
yup it cud have happened. thats their problem.
DQ wrote:I am not trying to slander, there are more real life examples. I just wanted to find out is this what is meant as acceptable and liberal
being liberal and acceptable means to keep the windows open for new ideas to flow in and old ones to blow out (as Gandhi quoted) as time changes. if a hindu has to follow strictly what was written thousands of years ago, hindu women cudnt even go out and work. their place is suppossed to be at home. hindu widows could not remarry as they are allowed to do now. and many more.
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by crypt » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:04 am

Someone's suffering from a serious lack (or absence) of gray matter. These posts/threads reflect this.



I thought after yesterdays events, u wud get ur head out of ur arse...Still cannot eh...funny



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by lonewolf » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:06 am

Xeno wrote:Yawwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn




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by Wisecrack » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:48 am

Aaha.So here lies the problem.Funny how our lives revolve around a few sacred texts.Why does it always have to be "Hindus vs Muslims" in this country? If thats not ok..we have "Brahmins vs Dalits", "Tamil girls vs Telugu girls". Tch tch..Religional,regional and caste fanatics are the last thing our country needs.Cut the finger pointing and bull crap. Its gonna get us nowhere. Peace :mrgreen:
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by DQ » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:29 pm

Wisecrack wrote:Aaha.So here lies the problem.Funny how our lives revolve around a few sacred texts.Why does it always have to be "Hindus vs Muslims" in this country? If thats not ok..we have "Brahmins vs Dalits", "Tamil girls vs Telugu girls". Tch tch..Religional,regional and caste fanatics are the last thing our country needs.Cut the finger pointing and bull crap. Its gonna get us nowhere. Peace :mrgreen:




So true, what can be done the "Open and Evolving" believe in "Varnas" and to maintian a way of life will go about spreading hate and Lies.



Proudly claiming "They are Liars :-P"
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by CtrlAltDel » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:45 pm

DQ wrote:the "Open and Evolving" believe in "Varnas" and to maintian a way of life will go about spreading hate and Lies.

Proudly claiming "They are Liars :-P"
...and the "Shut and Stagnant" dont recognize "Others" and to maintian a way of life will go about bombing and butchering innocents.



Proudly claiming "They are Staunch Followers :-P"
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