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by Bimbette » Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:54 pm

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Freindliness in society is something that needs to be copied from the west (don't turn this into a politicla topic and bring about bush and his plethora on the globe). A normal westerner is always a pleasure to be with compared to an Indian or someone from the subcontinent :-P




I agree with the above stmt too. I work in the customer service industry and there's a marked difference in the way a foreigner goes about his/her ways here when compared to his/her Indian counterpart.



For one, Westerners are far more polite. A 'thank-you'/'sorry' comes so naturally to them. Its a small thing but I've noticed this many a time. We have a lot of learning to do from them in more than 1 department.
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by Igiveadamn » Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:54 pm

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The Jackal wrote:that probably is an american syndrome., they are all snobs.Yeah probably.Never had this problem when I was in London. :D
That's interesting, I heard that the English are stuck up pigs?


Nah, not all. I think the English culture has been fused with the Indians and therefore they are more tolerant of Indians in general. Jackal?

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by CtrlAltDel » Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:20 pm

i think its just the "stiff upper lip" think in brits thats mistaken for snobbery...

but i have met a particular brit lady who cold shouldered my offer to take her out for dinner...:oops:....dunno why...racist or she just sisnt want to go out with me...:?
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by Igiveadamn » Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:53 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:i think its just the "stiff upper lip" think in brits thats mistaken for snobbery...
but i have met a particular brit lady who cold shouldered my offer to take her out for dinner...:oops:....dunno why...racist or she just sisnt want to go out with me...:?
Awww tough luck pal:). Coming to the stiff upper lip, most anglo-saxons have a stiff upper lip. So it has nothing to do with their facial features, it's just the way they behave and talk.
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by Alexis » Tue Nov 16, 2004 1:26 am

My previous employer was British, and he had that 'stiff upper lip'.
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by Reality,,its here.Accept it. » Tue Nov 16, 2004 2:17 am

And I think we Indians have 'stiff grey cells' in our brains that do not allow us to practise what we preach.
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by malakpetmasala » Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:48 am

Yeah... Pommes are really funny.
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by Habitual Perfectionist » Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:13 am

I'm surprised I came in so late into this topic. Here are my two cents.



I disagree with the generalisation in the discussion till now. Agreed, the caste system may still be in practice somewhereabouts, but then, isn't everyone closed that way? I doubt if an average caucasian would really be open to have a relationship with a afro and vice-versa. Exceptions would always be there. This syndrome is negated quite nicely by a cosmopolitan culture. If you look around, you'll find hordes of people who are marrying out of their castes, and in some cases, religions too. And going by the looks of it, the ratio of exceptions to the rule (it doesn't really matter what the rule is and what the exception is...according to your perception) doesn't really change from region to region. There is a big class of fundamentalist Indians who are racists but then its not fair to generalise.



On the issue of NRI's being bores and boors, it does boil down to a general perception among Indian diaspora that white is superior....maybe a fallout of our colonialisation. But that too is changing. You will not find too many snobs among the current generation.



Indians are probably among the more culturally progressive of the world's population. This discussion board is probably the best example of the openness of the average Indian. Till date, and I've been here for quite some time now, I haven't seen a single case of racial intolerance. We all belong to different backgrounds, different cultures and yet, not a single racial comment has been seen on these boards yet. Would you really call us racists?



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by Mayavi Morpheus » Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:14 am

Me bankrupt... cant throw away two cents. sorry :|
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by malakpetmasala » Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:17 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:Me bankrupt... cant throw away two cents. sorry :|




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by vera » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:43 am

:?



Okay guys,



I have something I'm dying to say. I am in a unique position in society. My blood consists of black, Native American and Caucasian (I'm a mut). My mannerisms and my "white"-sounding speech, nice, caramel-brown skin complexion and staight, soft, silky hair often leads many whites, blacks and Indians (both "India" indians and Native American "indians") to think I'm an indian of some sort. Most of my acquaintences in private life as well as at work and school do tend to be mostly caucasian, if not totally.



I admit that it is my true nature that I have the speech and mannerism and "taste" in music, etc. that are not typical of most blacks. I also admit that I have treated like crap from jealous blacks and have been accepted by whites more often that blacks because of my mannerisms and interest. I also have to admit that I, too, have a streak of prejudice against some members "of my own race", as they say.



I'm not perfect, I'm not a doctor or engineer, and I'm not of India. Actually, I have more "immediate" caucasian blood that you "India" guys. But what's so pathetic is that some of you want oh so badly to be white. It's really disgusting, the obvious way you suck up to whites and try your damnest to assure everyone that you guys have no connection to black people. It's so funny because you know how racists you are and that you stereotype blacks. God forbid you be seen associating with a black (or brown) person. It's so fun for me to watch you type of guys trying your best to not be noticed by me as you try like hell to figure out what the I am (race-wise).



Some of you don't even want to date your own race. You will associate more with "my kind" (you know, doesn't really look like and ape but looks like Halle Barry and talks like a white girl and is not on welfare) than you would with Ms. Ghetto Girl, however. In college, I had a "friend" name Padma, she was of India. She only dated white guys (as do I admitedly). She never spoke to me or looked at me until one day. She seemed to notice I had all white friends and pretty hair. Since I seemed so "white" we ended up chatting. Guess what about? We both had no intentions of every marrying a black guy OR an INDIAN guy. She hated Indian guys because they weren't as cute as white guys. She said my hair made all the difference in the world. I said Yeah, I know. But later, I puked my guts out that I was right in my belief that Indians think their shit doesn't stink.



As I got older, I matured (a little), although far from perfect. I look at your types as deparate and pathetic and full of self-hate. You're going to run out of options for a mate if you think you're white. I'm done.
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by CtrlAltDel » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:21 am

vera, were u bangalored recently?
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Re: prejudice

by Betty » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:44 am

vera wrote::?

Okay guys,

I have something I'm dying to say.
............
I look at your types as deparate and pathetic and full of self-hate. You're going to run out of options for a mate if you think you're white. I'm done.




Oooh that was too much venom, no wonder you were 'dying' to say all these :shock: ...just wondering...were you turned down by an Indian guy or something? :?
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by lizard king » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:47 am

she is writing from her experiences, perhaps. Lets not look at the generalisation in her comments here.
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by Betty » Tue Jul 05, 2005 11:55 am

lizard king wrote:she is writing from her experiences, perhaps. Lets not look at the generalisation in her comments here.




As you say LK....
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by Sri » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:02 pm

Hindu Religion is the principal source for the racism (Rule of Varna).



Even here in Northern Punjab,mostly Brown/Black colored people are pulling cycle rickshaws.



Thanks to 5000-year-old Hindu Religion.



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by Betty » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:19 pm

Sri wrote: Hindu Religion is the principal source for the racism (Rule of Varna).

Even here in Northern Punjab,mostly Brown/Black colored people are pulling cycle rickshaws..


And here in Hyderabad, fair people are driving auto-rickshaws..... :lol:

Still can't figure out what you meant to say Sri...Varnas are actually castes and not skin-colours....

Sri wrote: Thanks to 5000-year-old Hindu Religion.


I thought Punjab has a mix of hindus and Sikhs.... :?

Sri wrote: I am sorry to all Hindus. Truth cant be denied.




Neither can it be distorted.... :twisted:
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by talking » Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:31 pm

is that true :?
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by SeH » Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:14 pm

I think u generalized the topic to an extent....Just because an Indian female had much inclination towards the white guys doesn’t make racism an integral component for us Indians. I worked for an African American dominated Minority Organization for 2 long years and I still have good terms till date. They treat me as a brother. The saddest part was that there were no gurls of my age working, for me to date then.
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by Wisecrack » Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:54 pm

I dont think Indians are racists when it comes to dealing with "phoren" people. Nope.Blacks,Caucasian.Hispanics,Whites etc really dont matter to an "average" Indian..as long as they are phoren. The discrimination exists amongst ourselves.Jus look at the number of fairness creams available in the market..U'll know what I am talking abt!:mrgreen:



P.S: Most of the educated Indians dont really agree with the "phoren" explanation though!Jus stereotyping the fascination of most of the Indians with anything non-local!! :mrgreen:
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by SeH » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:49 pm

Wisecrack wrote:I dont think Indians are racists when it comes to dealing with "phoren" people. Nope.Blacks,Caucasian.Hispanics,Whites etc really dont matter to an "average" Indian..as long as they are phoren. The discrimination exists amongst ourselves.Jus look at the number of fairness creams available in the market..U'll know what I am talking abt!:mrgreen:

P.S: Most of the educated Indians dont really agree with the "phoren" explanation though!Jus stereotyping the fascination of most of the Indians with anything non-local!! :mrgreen:






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by koolJack » Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:01 am

I would say that COLOR and CASTE are the main cause for Racism



in west, its COLOR :x :x



in india, its CASTE :evil:



wat say ppl? :?:
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by kk » Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:13 am

koolJack wrote:I would say that COLOR and CASTE are the main cause for Racism

in west, its COLOR :x :x

in india, its CASTE :evil:

wat say ppl? :?:




I would say that majority of Indians are racists, fortunately, that number is going down. There are hindu/ muslims differences, north/south indian distiction, inter state (telugu/ tamil), intrastate (andhra/ telangana; chennaites/ non-chennaites) and last but not the least the caste bar. Oh boy, it makes sick, it makes me puke. Truth must be told and the truth is bitter. Whoever thinks we are not racists, you are thinking too naive.



I also think that India would be one of the top racist countries in the world. Racism is prevalent with other countries like Germany, England, some European, African countries,etc yet the severity with which it is practiced here is not insignificant. U.S is also a vast country yet the intra-national issues do not bother its country as much as it bothers India. I would be surprised to learn, if the caste system is followed in any other country as sincerely as it happens here. Fortunately, the caste bar isn't as severe as it was a decade ago and hopefully should die down soon.



Racism exists as long as concept of superior/inferior sects of people exists. The superiority of a class comes with power, when overexploited triggers a revolution and subsequently the difference disappears. It happened with untouchables, it happened with white/blacks. What should give an impression that either brownies/blacks are superior over the other? Even in this era where everyone has equal exposure and equal chance of proving oneself, it would highly foolish to think that one sect is superior over the other.
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Re: prejudice

by vakibs » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:28 pm

hey

I think mixed bloods look cute. Actually, in cuteness they outdo any single race. For example, consider japanese + european, spanish + arabic, white + black. We Indians have realized this long ago (something like 2000 years ago rite ?)



So seek partners from outside your gene pool. Mellow down on this hoisting of that black dignity flag. Dont get tissed off, vera. :) Come, date me.





vera wrote::?

Okay guys,
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As I got older, I matured (a little), although far from perfect. I look at your types as deparate and pathetic and full of self-hate. You're going to run out of options for a mate if you think you're white. I'm done.
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