trillian users...

[fl]

the first time it took me almost 2 days
but now i can do it in abt 18 -20 hrs from stage 2 to kde

2 days is really short for a newbie! I use XFCE; it works best on my AMD64 notebook. I have Debian 64bit and thats the only one other than Gentoo 64bit that works great on Compaq Presario R3000 series.

i did that with a bit of help from a gentoo god

I was sick of mandrake and suse

so i went to this guy and he gave me basic fundaes abt installng it and he did my kernel too !!

so it was kinda easy

[lonewolf]

the first time it took me almost 2 days
but now i can do it in abt 18 -20 hrs from stage 2 to kde

2 days is really short for a newbie! I use XFCE; it works best on my AMD64 notebook. I have Debian 64bit and thats the only one other than Gentoo 64bit that works great on Compaq Presario R3000 series.

i did that with a bit of help from a gentoo god
I was sick of mandrake and suse
so i went to this guy and he gave me basic fundaes abt installng it and he did my kernel too !!
so it was kinda easy

Mandrake and Suse are for beginners or for those who don't have time to learn.



Well, installing/upgrading the kernel is actually very easy, once you do it yourself. When I did it the first time, I said to myself "What?? Thats it???"



I got so hoooked to Debian that I don't want to try anything else The UbuntuLinux guys in Switzerland mailed me 5 install CDs and 5 liveCDs as a compliment. I've given them all away to those interested in learning Debian and knowing what it looks like.

[lonewolf]

Me be hearing about these multiple network chat clients for the first time.

Multiple network chat clients have been around for half a decade now.

[fl]

the first time it took me almost 2 days
but now i can do it in abt 18 -20 hrs from stage 2 to kde

2 days is really short for a newbie! I use XFCE; it works best on my AMD64 notebook. I have Debian 64bit and thats the only one other than Gentoo 64bit that works great on Compaq Presario R3000 series.

i did that with a bit of help from a gentoo god
I was sick of mandrake and suse
so i went to this guy and he gave me basic fundaes abt installng it and he did my kernel too !!
so it was kinda easy

Mandrake and Suse are for beginners or for those who don't have time to learn.

Well, installing/upgrading the kernel is actually very easy, once you do it yourself. When I did it the first time, I said to myself "What?? Thats it???"

I got so hoooked to Debian that I don't want to try anything else The UbuntuLinux guys in Switzerland mailed me 5 install CDs and 5 liveCDs as a compliment. I've given them all away to those interested in learning Debian and knowing what it looks like.

now i can configure a kernel in less than 5 mins

but the firt time it was all greek and latin

[lonewolf]

now i can configure a kernel in less than 5 mins
but the firt time it was all greek and latin

Do you find that Gentoo is faster than Debian or other distros? How long does it take for you to boot up and whats the applications (say GIMP) loading speed like?

[fl]

now i can configure a kernel in less than 5 mins
but the firt time it was all greek and latin

Do you find that Gentoo is faster than Debian or other distros? How long does it take for you to boot up and whats the applications (say GIMP) loading speed like?

never really used a deb

so i cant compare with that

but gentoo is much faster than most other distros

i have a athlon 2600+ with a 256Mb ram

it takes abt 30 secs to load gentoo

that is ofcourse in init 3

kde takes abt 7-8 secs

open office takes about 4-5 secs

[enriquee]

btw watz gentoo guyz.... havent heard of it....

[lonewolf]

but gentoo is much faster than most other distros
i have a athlon 2600+ with a 256Mb ram
it takes abt 30 secs to load gentoo
that is ofcourse in init 3
kde takes abt 7-8 secs
open office takes about 4-5 secs

Bootup time upto the GDM screen is about a minute on mine. I have an AMD 64bit processor with 512MB RAM. Have you used hdparm to optimise load time?

[lonewolf]

btw watz gentoo guyz.... havent heard of it....

Gentoo Linux is a flavour of Linux. Its an alternative operating system to Windows (and others). You technically install the OS yourself by downloading the source, compiling it and optimising it. There are 3 ways (technically known as Stages) of installing Gentoo. Stage 1 is the hardest and you compile almost *EVERYTHING* from source. This takes a few days to install, even if you are an expert. Stage 3 is the easiest and you just download and install the executables. But this stage is rarely used by those who want to use Gentoo for what it really is meant for.



Gentoo is not for beginners or those who are not comfortable with manually tweaking/editing the OS system files.

[fl]

but gentoo is much faster than most other distros
i have a athlon 2600+ with a 256Mb ram
it takes abt 30 secs to load gentoo
that is ofcourse in init 3
kde takes abt 7-8 secs
open office takes about 4-5 secs

Bootup time upto the GDM screen is about a minute on mine. I have an AMD 64bit processor with 512MB RAM. Have you used hdparm to optimise load time?

yes a few months back

[enriquee]

btw watz gentoo guyz.... havent heard of it....

Gentoo Linux is a flavour of Linux. Its an alternative operating system to Windows (and others). You technically install the OS yourself by downloading the source, compiling it and optimising it. There are 3 ways (technically known as Stages) of installing Gentoo. Stage 1 is the hardest and you compile almost *EVERYTHING* from source. This takes a few days to install, even if you are an expert. Stage 3 is the easiest and you just download and install the executables. But this stage is rarely used by those who want to use Gentoo for what it really is meant for.

Gentoo is not for beginners or those who are not comfortable with manually tweaking/editing the OS system files.

so its for technoguyz like u....

[lonewolf]

Bootup time upto the GDM screen is about a minute on mine. I have an AMD 64bit processor with 512MB RAM. Have you used hdparm to optimise load time?

yes a few months back

Darn, do you remember the exact option you used with hdparm?

[lonewolf]

so its for technoguyz like u....

Depends on how interested and eager you are in learning new things, and how you pass your free time



I started installing Gentoo long ago on a trashed computer at my Chicago office, then got impatient.. I mean who wants to wait 20 hours for KDE to compile? You might as well apt-get it in a few minutes if you're using Debian. (fl may have a different opinion on this though)

[fl]

Bootup time upto the GDM screen is about a minute on mine. I have an AMD 64bit processor with 512MB RAM. Have you used hdparm to optimise load time?

yes a few months back

Darn, do you remember the exact option you used with hdparm?

nope

will have to look up

will do so after i get back

[lonewolf]

Bootup time upto the GDM screen is about a minute on mine. I have an AMD 64bit processor with 512MB RAM. Have you used hdparm to optimise load time?

yes a few months back

Darn, do you remember the exact option you used with hdparm?

nope
will have to look up
will do so after i get back

Thanks

[fl]

so its for technoguyz like u....

Depends on how interested and eager you are in learning new things, and how you pass your free time

I started installing Gentoo long ago on a trashed computer at my Chicago office, then got impatient.. I mean who wants to wait 20 hours for KDE to compile? You might as well apt-get it in a few minutes if you're using Debian. (fl may have a different opinion on this though)

i do have a different opinion about this

firstly i think most people are scared of installing Gentoo because they are afraid that after spending 20 hrs on it, it might show some error and stop

most people misconstrue the concept behind the distro

it is not really a "geeks only" distro

infact i believe that is the easist distro to manage once installed

all u need to know is how to emerge



most ppl think that installation takes 2 days and their system is useless when this is going on

I installed my gentoo by chrooting from my fedora installation

so when my KDE was being compiled i was watching movies and listening to music and playing UT

so the time factor should not be a deterrent against installing gentoo



but many people ask why gentoo

fedora has all the same things

and takes much less time to install



but i think the total time to get everything working on a gentoo system is actually less that that on a fedora system

all you have to do is spend two days installing and configuring stuff

and once u have all your cron jobs set u dont have to worry about updating ever again

and everything you install actually works

i hear that in the latest version of fedora there is no mp3 support

and that you have to install some packages to get that working

i never saw xine working on it

and to get all these working and to remove all the useless stuff it takes a lot of time

on gentoo u only have what u emerge

nothin more nothin less

this reduces the bootup time

i dont wanna get into why compile when u have rpms argument

it will take too long to explain that

[lonewolf]

i do have a different opinion about this
firstly i think most people are scared of installing Gentoo because they are afraid that after spending 20 hrs on it, it might show some error and stop
most people misconstrue the concept behind the distro
it is not really a "geeks only" distro
infact i believe that is the easist distro to manage once installed
all u need to know is how to emerge

That was a nice one fl. Darn, the chrooting during install never struck me. I just formatted the old hard disk and tried a Stage 1 install the first time .



You have any idea how long a Stage 3 install would take? I can probably try it on this notebook sometime.

[Sharjeel]

Such a nice discussion about Linux, and it is in the wrong thread. I was ignoring it until now bcuz me thought you were still on the trillian topic.



Please guys, you should make a new thread or something. Keep the discussion loyal to the topic . We people also should get the benefits of such a knowledgeable discussion .

[lonewolf]

Sorry Sharjeel, and thanks for pointing it out. I just realised that I had hijacked this trillian thread.



For those interested in throwing in their experiences and fights with Linux distros, particularly Gentoo and Debian, the new thread is at:

http://www.fullhyderabad.com/discussion ... p?p=149119

Such a nice discussion about Linux, and it is in the wrong thread. I was ignoring it until now bcuz me thought you were still on the trillian topic.

Please guys, you should make a new thread or something. Keep the discussion loyal to the topic . We people also should get the benefits of such a knowledgeable discussion .

[Sharjeel]

! Thank you soo much! I for one will learn much from you peoples' discussion

[lonewolf]

:D! Thank you soo much! I for one will learn much from you peoples' discussion

No probs And, did you install GAIM yet?

[ycr007]

:D! Thank you soo much! I for one will learn much from you peoples' discussion

No probs And, did you install GAIM yet?

Me Seconds Sharjeel's Views......



And If You Ppl Could Throw some Light on Mandrake.Ubuntu & Red Hat as well,it would be Great.

[lonewolf]

:D! Thank you soo much! I for one will learn much from you peoples' discussion

No probs And, did you install GAIM yet?

Me Seconds Sharjeel's Views......

And If You Ppl Could Throw some Light on Mandrake.Ubuntu & Red Hat as well,it would be Great.

Sure. Check the other thread