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by 3 T'z » Sat May 21, 2005 10:03 pm

Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:xactly...theres no point in keep da outta form players in the team n just waiting for them to make a good comebk even if it means handin over the matches n series 2 the opponent team
Ohoooo...

Remind me of this when your results arrive. You parents will be interested in your philosophy :P. :twisted:


oyeee!! results ka issey koi connection nahin hai!! :evil: :x
Was just thinking that they might throw you out of the house after your latest debacle. :P


i'd make up some other convinsin philosophy...n they wouldnt.. :wink:
Ye nahi bolingay ke is baar pass hoke dikhaungi :P :P :P.




Nahin...yeh bolnay ki zurat nahi hogi...coz i wud've already passed..! :twisted:
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by Sharjeel » Sat May 21, 2005 10:05 pm

3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:xactly...theres no point in keep da outta form players in the team n just waiting for them to make a good comebk even if it means handin over the matches n series 2 the opponent team
Ohoooo...

Remind me of this when your results arrive. You parents will be interested in your philosophy :P. :twisted:


oyeee!! results ka issey koi connection nahin hai!! :evil: :x
Was just thinking that they might throw you out of the house after your latest debacle. :P


i'd make up some other convinsin philosophy...n they wouldnt.. :wink:
Ye nahi bolingay ke is baar pass hoke dikhaungi :P :P :P.


Nahin...yeh bolnay ki zurat nahi hogi...coz i wud've already passed..! :twisted:
Good! Lekin please apne gharwalon pe rhem karna. Pass ho gaye bolingay ekdum se toh bahut shock hunga unko. Try to tell them the news across in a very nice manner. :neutral:
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by 3 T'z » Sat May 21, 2005 10:09 pm

Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:xactly...theres no point in keep da outta form players in the team n just waiting for them to make a good comebk even if it means handin over the matches n series 2 the opponent team
Ohoooo...

Remind me of this when your results arrive. You parents will be interested in your philosophy :P. :twisted:


oyeee!! results ka issey koi connection nahin hai!! :evil: :x
Was just thinking that they might throw you out of the house after your latest debacle. :P


i'd make up some other convinsin philosophy...n they wouldnt.. :wink:
Ye nahi bolingay ke is baar pass hoke dikhaungi :P :P :P.


Nahin...yeh bolnay ki zurat nahi hogi...coz i wud've already passed..! :twisted:
Good! Lekin please apne gharwalon pe rhem karna. Pass ho gaye bolingay ekdum se toh bahut shock hunga unko. Try to tell them the news across in a very nice manner. :neutral:




sure i'll cry buckets..n tell em i passed... :roll:
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by Sharjeel » Sat May 21, 2005 10:11 pm

3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:xactly...theres no point in keep da outta form players in the team n just waiting for them to make a good comebk even if it means handin over the matches n series 2 the opponent team
Ohoooo...

Remind me of this when your results arrive. You parents will be interested in your philosophy :P. :twisted:


oyeee!! results ka issey koi connection nahin hai!! :evil: :x
Was just thinking that they might throw you out of the house after your latest debacle. :P


i'd make up some other convinsin philosophy...n they wouldnt.. :wink:
Ye nahi bolingay ke is baar pass hoke dikhaungi :P :P :P.


Nahin...yeh bolnay ki zurat nahi hogi...coz i wud've already passed..! :twisted:
Good! Lekin please apne gharwalon pe rhem karna. Pass ho gaye bolingay ekdum se toh bahut shock hunga unko. Try to tell them the news across in a very nice manner. :neutral:


sure i'll cry buckets..n tell em i passed... :roll:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Thats a start. Better not tell them the news yourself...
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by 3 T'z » Sat May 21, 2005 10:17 pm

Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:
Sharjeel wrote:
3 T'z wrote:xactly...theres no point in keep da outta form players in the team n just waiting for them to make a good comebk even if it means handin over the matches n series 2 the opponent team
Ohoooo...

Remind me of this when your results arrive. You parents will be interested in your philosophy :P. :twisted:


oyeee!! results ka issey koi connection nahin hai!! :evil: :x
Was just thinking that they might throw you out of the house after your latest debacle. :P


i'd make up some other convinsin philosophy...n they wouldnt.. :wink:
Ye nahi bolingay ke is baar pass hoke dikhaungi :P :P :P.


Nahin...yeh bolnay ki zurat nahi hogi...coz i wud've already passed..! :twisted:
Good! Lekin please apne gharwalon pe rhem karna. Pass ho gaye bolingay ekdum se toh bahut shock hunga unko. Try to tell them the news across in a very nice manner. :neutral:


sure i'll cry buckets..n tell em i passed... :roll:
:lol: :lol: :lol: Thats a start. Better not tell them the news yourself...




Better off...i'll tell em after i finish ma 4 yr engg degree...still better i'll show em da degree one fine day.. :twisted:



Sherry look wht u turned this thread into.. :x
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by Sharjeel » Sat May 21, 2005 10:20 pm

3 T'z wrote:Better off...i'll tell em after i finish ma 4 yr engg degree...still better i'll show em da degree one fine day.. :twisted:
He he he. One fine day... You kids will come up to ur mom and say: Look granny! mummy has passed!!! Bad joke...

3 T'z wrote:Sherry look wht u turned this thread into.. :x
Same to you :P. Okay, I'll stop now and wait for someone to get it back on track.
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by akhilis2cool » Sun May 22, 2005 10:02 am

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Sri wrote:
of course he is required
as a Permanent member
well, yes
i disagree....there shud be no concept of Job Security in the Indian cricket team....this is no effing govt. job.

underperformers have to be chucked out...whether its sachin or laxman or balaji.

if Chappel is able to bring this kinda australian mentality in BCCI and the team (forget the immature public for now), he deserves a Bharat Ratna.


xactly...theres no point in keep da outta form players in the team n just waiting for them to make a good comebk even if it means handin over the matches n series 2 the opponent team,itz surely more sensible to give the new players a chance to perform n prove emselvz...n tht way we can have good new players 2 fall bk on durin hard times..
hain? :?

who are we talking about here, sachin in particular...or neplayer in general?

AFAIK sachin is nething BUT an underperformer. Theres nothing wrong in cracking the whip on the players who make it to the teams only because of the Quota System. But in the last few years such cases have been very few. Greg Chapples job has been made easy by John Wright. The BCCI...the selection commettee and the concerned ppl. are very diff. from what they were when Wright was appointed. Its fair to say that they more concerned with the Teams performance than meeting the regional quotas.

The team needs the senior players as they can guide the younger ones thru...having said that the underperformers will have to stay out.
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by CtrlAltDel » Sun May 22, 2005 12:03 pm

akhilis2cool wrote:hain? :?
who are we talking about here, sachin in particular...or neplayer in general?
AFAIK sachin is nething BUT an underperformer. Theres nothing wrong in cracking the whip on the players who make it to the teams only because of the Quota System. But in the last few years such cases have been very few. Greg Chapples job has been made easy by John Wright. The BCCI...the selection commettee and the concerned ppl. are very diff. from what they were when Wright was appointed. Its fair to say that they more concerned with the Teams performance than meeting the regional quotas.
The team needs the senior players as they can guide the younger ones thru...having said that the underperformers will have to stay out.
an underperformer is one who doesnt play consistantly well over a period of time say in a series or two....be it a senior or junior.

the same yardstick has to be applied to the entire team, and no consideration given to any "superstars" or prima donnas. aussies are at the top bcoz they do exactly that.
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by akhilis2cool » Sun May 22, 2005 12:56 pm

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akhilis2cool wrote:hain? :?
who are we talking about here, sachin in particular...or neplayer in general?
AFAIK sachin is nething BUT an underperformer. Theres nothing wrong in cracking the whip on the players who make it to the teams only because of the Quota System. But in the last few years such cases have been very few. Greg Chapples job has been made easy by John Wright. The BCCI...the selection commettee and the concerned ppl. are very diff. from what they were when Wright was appointed. Its fair to say that they more concerned with the Teams performance than meeting the regional quotas.
The team needs the senior players as they can guide the younger ones thru...having said that the underperformers will have to stay out.
an underperformer is one who doesnt play consistantly well over a period of time say in a series or two....be it a senior or junior.
the same yardstick has to be applied to the entire team, and no consideration given to any "superstars" or prima donnas. aussies are at the top bcoz they do exactly that.
I agree with that.

But u cant always judge a players worth to the team against his immediate performance. Every player goes thru bad patches, but that doesnt mean he shd. b dropped just like that. Imagine the kind of pressure a youngster wld. face if he comes into the team knowing that he wld. b dropped if did not play well in 4-5 matches.

My point is the trial period shd. b slightly longer than 1-2 series.

Australians have been brave enuf to drop the senior players...but most of the times it was when they were nearing retierement.
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by 3 T'z » Sun May 22, 2005 2:22 pm

akhilis2cool wrote:
3 T'z wrote:xactly...theres no point in keep da outta form players in the team n just waiting for them to make a good comebk even if it means handin over the matches n series 2 the opponent team,itz surely more sensible to give the new players a chance to perform n prove emselvz...n tht way we can have good new players 2 fall bk on durin hard times..
hain? :?
who are we talking about here, sachin in particular...or neplayer in general?
AFAIK sachin is nething BUT an underperformer. Theres nothing wrong in cracking the whip on the players who make it to the teams only because of the Quota System. But in the last few years such cases have been very few. Greg Chapples job has been made easy by John Wright. The BCCI...the selection commettee and the concerned ppl. are very diff. from what they were when Wright was appointed. Its fair to say that they more concerned with the Teams performance than meeting the regional quotas.
The team needs the senior players as they can guide the younger ones thru...having said that the underperformers will have to stay out.




:shock: didya c me mention any names thr... ,wz jst speakin in gen. :P
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by akhilis2cool » Sun May 22, 2005 2:56 pm

3 T'z wrote:
akhilis2cool wrote:
3 T'z wrote:xactly...theres no point in keep da outta form players in the team n just waiting for them to make a good comebk even if it means handin over the matches n series 2 the opponent team,itz surely more sensible to give the new players a chance to perform n prove emselvz...n tht way we can have good new players 2 fall bk on durin hard times..
hain? :?
who are we talking about here, sachin in particular...or neplayer in general?
AFAIK sachin is nething BUT an underperformer. Theres nothing wrong in cracking the whip on the players who make it to the teams only because of the Quota System. But in the last few years such cases have been very few. Greg Chapples job has been made easy by John Wright. The BCCI...the selection commettee and the concerned ppl. are very diff. from what they were when Wright was appointed. Its fair to say that they more concerned with the Teams performance than meeting the regional quotas.
The team needs the senior players as they can guide the younger ones thru...having said that the underperformers will have to stay out.


:shock: didya c me mention any names thr... ,wz jst speakin in gen. :P
well...it all started with sri asking 'is tendulkar needed...' I sadi yes...but CAD bhai said no...u quoted him hence...u too agreed with him... :roll:
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by 3 T'z » Sun May 22, 2005 3:03 pm

jst agreed 2 his underperformers bit , b it sachin...sehvag...zaheer..ganguly..irfan .. neone!
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Lesson No. Zero ...

by HH » Sun May 22, 2005 4:01 pm

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C C C … Crorepati Cricket COACH!
C C C C … Crorepati Cricket Coach CHAPPEL!
CHAPPEL? ... Chappal / Chepal ... Woh Sahab Crorepati ... Aur Baaqui ... Chappalwaaley ... Ledaa Chepal Pulsuwaaraa?! :wink: :P
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what is a bad patch

by crypt » Sun May 22, 2005 4:16 pm

whenever the question of underperformers comes immediately the words "bad patch come into the frame....heck, how much patch is a patch is the question...can the patch be 1 series or year or 2 years...Australians hav got a very good definition of this patch i guess...so they even pullup players like matt hayden...when we are talking abt dropping or including any cricketer, i think there shud be other criteria too...for starters just make a question as to how many internatopnal teams the cricketer in discussion would get into based on his current form (not on past records)....may be now there might be another question how much current is current:) :lol:
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