confessions of a talentless, useless waster

[CtrlAltDel]

WTH do thse Blue-Chip Co's always hark about having This Much percentage in Graduation.
Must be frm a Top-Tier Engg College and all that Crap???

thats coz most of the ppl who make those policies are indians who attach value to sheets of art paper that certify how you have wasted the prime of your youth...



its all crap really....and most of the time, just a way to filter thru all the resumes they are flooded with everyday.



at the end of the day, if u r good in what u do, u succeed, if not u dont. yr qualification wont help u in anyway.



btw, what i am saying is largely true about only IT. most other fields do require necessary knowledge that comes with the qualification.

[mark]

ok, i'll go through the progression.



1st stage: introduction to work - exciting and novel, you've just joined a big company, lots of opportunities, you get to feel important and wear a tie, how cool!

2nd stage: early dissillusionment. Your training was a joke, you feel like the entire thing was the company just going through the motions, they don't care about your skills, they just want to get you billable as soon as possible

3rd stage: productive work - you're learning and working! everyones happy. this lasts for 4-5 months (or longer, depending on the tech). you will be challanged, etc.

4th stage: productivity declining - you have been doing the same thing now for 1 year, day in, day out. you are getting bored. your first target will be the company, you will get pissed at your wage, your office environment, your co-workers.

5th stage: stagnation - now coworkers in similar situations will band together and subversively try to saboutage the companies productivity while spreading the stagnation and dissillusionment.





after this 1 of two things happens.

1. You quit, join another company and go back to stage 1 (albeit not quite as naive)

2. you procede to stage 6.



6th stage: you are now so insecure you stop blaming the company, start blaming yourself, and just keep your head down for fear of being fired.



7th stage: you realise that none of it really matters anyway, you quit your job and work your way around the world picking fruit and teaching english as a foreign language. you meet a beautiful Argentinian lion tamer, fall hopelessly in love and get married in a cage with lions and hoops of fire. you have lots of kids and settle down to real life.



actually the work-related existential angst (haha, i'm such a pretentious knob-jockey) could spread to other areas of life too, you start thinking "what the f%ck am i doing this for?" while changing a babies nappy. at this point you're on your own, man, i have yet to thread that path.

[labelle]

Mark i am also joining the club i am into sales and man it really sucks the bugging TL is always behind me to get the numbers. seeing the numbers sometimes my head starts spinning. i wish i could fly to some place where no one would bother to bug me with numbers. god the life in multinational company really sucks.

[akhilis2cool]

Now any Fresher wud get Scared after reading all this.Is IT really That bad?

bad? who said its bad? where else u get paid a good amount to sit in the toilet and sleep for 30 minits?

meri co. hai na get paid for browsing the net. having coffee.

all i have to do is open the office at 9

[mark]

Mark i am also joining the club i am into sales and man it really sucks the bugging TL is always behind me to get the numbers. seeing the numbers sometimes my head starts spinning. i wish i could fly to some place where no one would bother to bug me with numbers. god the life in multinational company really sucks.

7! 35! 6!



haha sorry that was cruel. sounds rough, pretty lady.

[Jaszalcatraz]

Atleast you have hobbies Mark.

I know so many people in the IT industry who have no hobbies in life or aims and agendas in life.

They stay at work till 8pm because they've got nothing better to do.

I'm sure your collegues are that way too. Their primary concern at this point in their life is getting a wife

[mark]

Their primary concern at this point in their life is getting a wife

they should go to Argentina, those bikini clad lion tamers, oh man!



you're right, i think people use goals in their real lives to try to make it through the working week.



i only have 1 goal at the moment, make it to the weekend without strangling a coworker with a telephone chord.

[Jaszalcatraz]

Scared of living a useless pointless life that doesnt contribute in any real way to society.......I recently mailed the people at Make-A -Wish Foundation.

Hope the assigments and charity will make me feel good about my existance. I havent got a reply yet.

[CtrlAltDel]

I know so many people in the IT industry who have no hobbies in life or aims and agendas in life.
They stay at work till 8pm because they've got nothing better to do.

i'd say Jasz's description covers abt 80% of the IT workforce...!



many ppl i know voluntarily work weekends coz they simply cannot go out and have a good time...



and another category of ppl work late so that they qualify for a free dinner, paid for by the company. after that they go home cursing the miserable quality of the food they just gorged on.

[Jaszalcatraz]

Is that a general problem in the Indian IT force or is that a reflection of the world??



I think its probab restricted to India because we've been told lotsa silly stuff.

Till we were 10 we were told that we are here to goto school and not play.

Till we were 22 we were told that we are on this earth to become computer proffesionals.

When we get a job we are told that we are on this earth to get married and settled in life.

When we get married we'll be told that we're here to procreate.

then it all begins again.



Why did my dad have no life, outside of his job and raising us, only to have me grow up to do the same thing?

And he often tells me that he did all that because he wants me to have a great future. But if this future involves replicating his life's timeline.....I'd rather not have it.

This isnt only about my dad but about all the ones I know.

[Jaszalcatraz]

Indian Society is a bitch!!!



But i wudnt want to move anywhere else

[mark]

Is that a general problem in the Indian IT force or is that a reflection of the world??

I think its probab restricted to India because we've been told lotsa silly stuff.
Till we were 10 we were told that we are here to goto school and not play.
Till we were 22 we were told that we are on this earth to become computer proffesionals.
When we get a job we are told that we are on this earth to get married and settled in life.
When we get married we'll be told that we're here to procreate.
then it all begins again.

Why did my dad have no life, outside of his job and raising us, only to have me grow up to do the same thing?
And he often tells me that he did all that because he wants me to have a great future. But if this future involves replicating his life's timeline.....I'd rather not have it.
This isnt only about my dad but about all the ones I know.

it's a reflection of the world. in India there's a more specific focus, i.e. early marrage and Engineering job.

i don't want to kill the thread again, but remember in Fight Club "well dad, i got a job, now what?" "get married" "well dad, i got married, now what?"

etc.



Nobody knows what constitutes a full and satisfying life, until they lie on their deathbed and smile to themselves because they've just had one.

But i know for sure what does NOT constitute a full and happy life, is going through the motions of job, marrage, etc. without asking "why the f%ck am i doing this? is it because it's expected, or because i genuinely want it?"

My Mum is a guidance Councilor (she'll find me facinating next time we meet no doubt, she'll probably do a white paper on admotivational syndrome and how it relates to the graduate workplace) and she would say that in order to be fulfilled in life, you need to be fulfilled in your choosen career.

[CtrlAltDel]

Is that a general problem in the Indian IT force or is that a reflection of the world??

I think its probab restricted to India because we've been told lotsa silly stuff.
Till we were 10 we were told that we are here to goto school and not play.
Till we were 22 we were told that we are on this earth to become computer proffesionals.
When we get a job we are told that we are on this earth to get married and settled in life.
When we get married we'll be told that we're here to procreate.
then it all begins again.

Why did my dad have no life, outside of his job and raising us, only to have me grow up to do the same thing?
And he often tells me that he did all that because he wants me to have a great future. But if this future involves replicating his life's timeline.....I'd rather not have it.
This isnt only about my dad but about all the ones I know.

that was profound, Jasz...!!! now i know how i have to bring up my kid!

[Jaszalcatraz]

Scared of living a useless pointless life that doesnt contribute in any real way to society.......I recently mailed the people at Make-A -Wish Foundation.
Hope the assigments and charity will make me feel good about my existance. I havent got a reply yet.

that was profound, Jasz...!!! now i know how i have to bring up my kid!

There's my contrib to society. I just made CAD Jr's future wish come true.

[The Jackal]

This entire page reminds me of my mind.I used to think of those exact things everyday and used to use them as an excuse not to do anything.Now I keep myself busy so that I wont think of that subject.....but I know that its true and it cannot be changed.

[ycr007]

My Thoughts Exactly......



While Growing up,we were fed by the drams and aspirations of the parents

whereas our own aspirations & ambitions were somehow relegated to the

backburner.And many of my friends I met at college,when Asked Why did

u chosse Engg,Reply that My Dad said to or my Great Uncle's Wife's

Brother's Wife's Son Said so.No one really is driving his or her ambitions

or fuelling those innermost desires.



Those kinda ppl will become misfits into the work they do in Jus' coz They

don't like doing it.But many continue to slog away Jus' for the sake of doing

it or more so coz they've to bring up their children & feed them the same

sordid crap that they so loathed while they were children.

[mark]

i love the direction this thread is taking, very interesting. more on that when i get home. We definately seem to have hit a nerve though, when i first posted i was expecting a wave of posters saying "i love my job, it fulfills me as a person, etc." however the responses seem to be much more complex than that, everyone seems to have related to the theme in some way, some to a frightening extent.



I keep thinking of the Bob Dylan quote about a successful man, something along the lines of "A successful man is someone who gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night* and in between does what he wants to do"

*(haha i'm out right there)



anyone in this situation has just 2 choices

1. Get out

2. Stay in



If you choose to get out, and you run from the meaninglessness of life, chances are it'll catch up with you at some stage. If i dropped out of the ratrace and travelled around the world as i would dearly love to do, chances are i'd be lying awake in some cheap hotel somewhere in Bankok wondering "what the F%ck am i doing with my life?"

If you stay in and focus on other things, that question would be there every day, you'd just choose to ignore it.



In retrospect, it's no wonder our parents put us on the paths we are on, tried to at least give us some direction and momentum as they finally released us like skimmed stones out into the meaningless void of adulthood.

[Betty]

My Thoughts Exactly......

While Growing up,we were fed by the drams and aspirations of the parents
whereas our own aspirations & ambitions were somehow relegated to the
backburner.And many of my friends I met at college,when Asked Why did
u chosse Engg,Reply that My Dad said to or my Great Uncle's Wife's
Brother's Wife's Son Said so.No one really is driving his or her ambitions
or fuelling those innermost desires..

I am not a very big fan of parental authority and I hate social norms. Even then I'd say that when people choose engineering because their parents told them to, some of them at least knew that they had to earn a living - not to bring up or feed kids, but to support themselves so that they don't become a burden on their parents, and at one time, doing engineering froma reputed college was one of the quickest way to geta job thru' campus recruitment.

What I am trying to say is - our parents drive us to be somehting which we may not want to become simply because in India, the financial conditions are not good enough for most parents to sit back and let their kids experiment with their life. So, most of them use the simpelst process, they look at the report card and decide the future stream that their kids should take.

Agreed that some parents might even push their kids to do something beyond the kids' means because they hope that somehow their kids will achieve something.



But all in all, it's no use blaming our parents when we want to bang our head on the keyboard.

Let's face it, most of us don't know what job they would love to stay in even if they are given a choice, because there will be some stage in your life when you are financially well-off and bored enough to make posts like 'I want to shoot myself becuase my job is _', and even then it is difficult for you to move away.

If we choose what we love doing, we end up being a workaholic, if we don't, we choose to live for our family, rather than our job. And i am sure, even if your chilhood desire was to become a writer, you would hate it if you had to do it 9-5, under a boss, or even as an independent person, if you have to do it to earn your living.

[The Jackal]

Aptly put betty.

[ycr007]

My Point is,I have seen parents Goad their children into the ENgineering Stream

Sometimes Only coz the Colleague's Son is an Engineer who's doing well.

They don't ask the child what does he /she wants to become.And Lemme

tell u an example where a Sister of My Friend,After Completing B.Tech,and

slogging at iFlex for sometime,is now preparing for MBBS.Only coz her

interests lay in MEdicine since the beginning and only due to her parents

goading,she joined Engg.But Now she's pursuing what she likes because

now she can face upto her parents.

Now the loss is entirely hers.After 5 years in Engg,Now another 10 years

will be gone in MBBS.Not to think of the Laughs & giggles She'll get Jus'

to have pursued her dream.



IMO,This mentality of parents that they should decide the career of their

children as a parallel to someone else's carre should go away.

Jus' coz Dad's Colleague's Son is Well-off at Infy,why Should I veer

away from my Dreams n aspirations!!!!



Also many Youngsters,even before completing their 4 year degree are

so vexed up with life and its intermittent struggles that they totally

lose confidence in themselves.And End up as Wastrels.

[daisy]

i reach work by 7.30. check mails and reply until 8

visit all the indian newspaper websites and fullhyd from 8-10.

10-11.30 i really work, honest.

11.30- 12.00 lunch

12.00 - 2.00 go out shopping (mostly window shopping ) or chitchat with coworkers or surf the web or phone friends/cousins

2.00 - 4.00 real work.

4-4.30 say bye byes to all the team and go home.



and also 2 coffee breaks a day whenever i feel like.



i love my work

[The Jackal]

i love my work

Good for you.

[CtrlAltDel]

10-11.30 i really work, honest.
.....
2.00 - 4.00 real work.
.....
and also 2 coffee breaks a day......

i love my work

:shock: seriously....u need to get a life...











j/k

[daisy]

:shock: seriously....u need to get a life...j/k

why? do you think 3 and half hours of real work is too much? some times i think so too

[rock_26iin]

:shock: seriously....u need to get a life...j/k

why? do you think 3 and half hours of real work is too much? some times i think so too

Define "real work".