pre-marital sexx okkksssss plzzzzzz

[Kavita]

Heard of condoms?

Heard of condoms failing or getting teared? Ever gave a thought to going for children with all the parterns? one per partner, two if the partner is better, etc etc?



Desires can be weired, to any extent.

[lizard king]

:lol:

yup, the world's become a better place to live in...

chee, yak, thu *vomits all that was in the tummy in a semi digested state*

Please God (not you FHDB God), dont let the whole world go like this. How will I and people who think similar to me live if the whole world goes like this? Just the thought is giving me the roach-crawling-on-skin effect.


*So many questions in my head, what if the whole world determines to go like this? Will virgin people be chased if they do not agree? whos father will be who? similarly for mother? and how many mothers and father will one have? Oh this is one good thing, onw will have many people to ask for poket money. Oh no, I am thinking too much. Thank God, the world will not become like this in near future. And I am earnig too, no need for pocket money*

but kavitha, the world still goes on.

and as i and a few others have aleady mentioned, virginity is extremely over rated, just another insecure ways of the society. Once again to work in favour of male supremacy.

anyway, the average of premarital sex in the western world has come down to 12 or 13 among the girls.

Ita all about the way we handle ourselves and the situations.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Lucifier and Mayavi, why dont you read her post once again? Is it wrong to express once opinion or does expressing opinion mean preaching things? Atleast not to me.

Read them along with the million other posts she made about Indians being this and Indians being that...
Sample this: SS on SALSA thread - Indians know Salsa
yeah right! we are neanderthals (?) who just crawled outta our caves and started posting on a forum.

Heard of condoms failing or getting teared?

Actually, Nope

Ever gave a thought to going for children with all the parterns? one per partner, two if the partner is better, etc etc?

If you are old enough to have sex, then you are old enough to know the consequences.

If you are not careful, then you have to face the consequences.

Who are we to tell others not to have sex before marriage? Why does one need to have the 'marriage' licence to have sex?

And what is the difference between the kids of divorced/widowed moms and single moms, other than the 'bastard' tag.

Like masalaman said, virginity is over rated. Its a very personal issue and the society need concerned itself with such trivial issues.

[SimarikSmokin]

Oh i am SORRY YOU GUYS are embrassed of your culture. All I have to say is you all have IDENTITY CRISIS's



Just case you want to carry out your boyhood fantasies don't go around bad mouthing ME. I couldn't be more proud to an Indian with standards and virtues.

[lizard king]

Oh i am SORRY YOU GUYS are embrassed of your culture. All I have to say is you all have IDENTITY CRISIS's

Just case you want to carry out your boyhood fantasies don't go around bad mouthing ME. I couldn't be more proud to an Indian with standards and virtues.

hey Ss, no offence honey, but identity crisis is some thing u suffer from. we know what our culture is, and we can also reason the necessity for the introduction of it as mush as we know how to handle/deal with other culture not be enveloped by the culture curtain.

anyway, if there is anyone who is still lingering with the identity crisis here, it definitley has to be some one who has nt really lived in a culture and the society abiding by it, but still talks a lot about it, in a narrow minded way, or maybe the way, the parents wanted to the kids to be.



ya whatever..... frida afternoons and work dont really gel together

[archii]

whatz sex to with the culture people its individual choice......and who ever no's to pre-marital sex i want to ask them is marriage a liceneced sex to be more stronger a leagalised prostitution

[lizard king]

whatz sex to with the culture people its individual choice......and who ever no's to pre-marital sex i want to ask them is marriage a liceneced sex to be more stronger a leagalised prostitution

wats sex got to do with culture.....

then why is pre marital sex a non existant term in many countries?

[archii]

whatz sex to with the culture people its individual choice......and who ever no's to pre-marital sex i want to ask them is marriage a liceneced sex to be more stronger a leagalised prostitution

[Sharjeel]

and who ever no's to pre-marital sex i want to ask them is marriage a liceneced sex to be more stronger a leagalised prostitution

You are mssing the point. It is not about marraige. It is about love.



Ancient Egyptians were gay (a loose generalisation), while people in Israel (before it even became known as Israel) had very loose morals and rules...



You reserve special things for the one you love: the special smile, the special hug, etc. The only thing a human has any credible amount of right is his own body. Allowing someone to touch you is the most special right/favour which a person can give to his beloved.

[lizard king]

and who ever no's to pre-marital sex i want to ask them is marriage a liceneced sex to be more stronger a leagalised prostitution

You are mssing the point. It is not about marraige. It is about love.

Ancient Egyptians were gay (a loose generalisation), while people in Israel (before it even became known as Israel) had very loose morals and rules...

You reserve special things for the one you love: the special smile, the special hug, etc. The only thing a human has any credible amount of right is his own body. Allowing someone to touch you is the most special right/favour which a person can give to his beloved.

and what would ur opinions about a man marrying 4 women at the same time be Sherry? would that be a civilised act?

[lizard king]

and who ever no's to pre-marital sex i want to ask them is marriage a liceneced sex to be more stronger a leagalised prostitution

You are mssing the point. It is not about marraige. It is about love.

Ancient Egyptians were gay (a loose generalisation), while people in Israel (before it even became known as Israel) had very loose morals and rules...

You reserve special things for the one you love: the special smile, the special hug, etc. The only thing a human has any credible amount of right is his own body. Allowing someone to touch you is the most special right/favour which a person can give to his beloved.

and what would ur opinions about a man marrying 4 women at the same time be Sherry? would that be a civilised act?

[Sharjeel]

and who ever no's to pre-marital sex i want to ask them is marriage a liceneced sex to be more stronger a leagalised prostitution

You are mssing the point. It is not about marraige. It is about love.

Ancient Egyptians were gay (a loose generalisation), while people in Israel (before it even became known as Israel) had very loose morals and rules...

You reserve special things for the one you love: the special smile, the special hug, etc. The only thing a human has any credible amount of right is his own body. Allowing someone to touch you is the most special right/favour which a person can give to his beloved.

and what would ur opinions about a man marrying 4 women at the same time be Sherry? would that be a civilised act?

No, if it was just about sex.



Marraige is not always about sex. Women outnumber men, and many of them find it hard to get by, thus falling prey to vandals, pimps, etc. In that scenario, if a guy were to marry a 'good' girl, supported her, what would be wrong in that?

[lizard king]

and who ever no's to pre-marital sex i want to ask them is marriage a liceneced sex to be more stronger a leagalised prostitution

You are mssing the point. It is not about marraige. It is about love.

Ancient Egyptians were gay (a loose generalisation), while people in Israel (before it even became known as Israel) had very loose morals and rules...

You reserve special things for the one you love: the special smile, the special hug, etc. The only thing a human has any credible amount of right is his own body. Allowing someone to touch you is the most special right/favour which a person can give to his beloved.

and what would ur opinions about a man marrying 4 women at the same time be Sherry? would that be a civilised act?

No, if it was just about sex.

Marraige is not always about sex. Women outnumber men, and many of them find it hard to get by, thus falling prey to vandals, pimps, etc. In that scenario, if a guy were to marry a 'good' girl, supported her, what would be wrong in that?

if that were to be the case, then why is there a 1:1 rati0o between women and men in this world and not 1:4 in favour of men? then why do they say... made for each other, and not made for her, and three other too?

[Mayavi Morpheus]

You reserve special things for the one you love: the special smile, the special hug, etc. The only thing a human has any credible amount of right is his own body. Allowing someone to touch you is the most special right/favour which a person can give to his beloved.

We are discussing about virginity or lack of it and not extra-marital affiars. arent we? What you posted applies for extra marital affairs and not pre-marital sexual relationships because, unlike in married relationships, the 'special person' may change from time to time when in love.

No, if it was just about sex.

Marraige is not always about sex. Women outnumber men, and many of them find it hard to get by, thus falling prey to vandals, pimps, etc. In that scenario, if a guy were to marry a 'good' girl, supported her, what would be wrong in that?

So the marriage is just to 'support her' and there is no love/sex involved? In that case I'd say that its better for her to fall in a pimp hand rather than just a 'supporting husband'.

made for each other, and not made for her, and three other too?

Lol

[Sharjeel]

if that were to be the case, then why is there a 1:1 rati0o between women and men in this world and not 1:4 in favour of men? then why do they say... made for each other, and not made for her, and three other too?

Dunno...



If you would take the trouble to find out the facts, then yu wouild see the other side...

[mark]

this point has been made elsewhere but here we go again.

culture is not a static thing, your morality (fighting hard not to enclose that in "") is a product of your upbringing and the cultural snapshot of the time. 1000 years ago in India there were many practices that today would be illegal and immoral to the moral majority. India's first contact with western culture came at a time when India was FAR more liberal culturally than most of the west. Here we have an interesting combination between cultural liberalism and the hangover from the raj.

Here we have wave after wave of cultural invasions, the mix of indiginious tribes, Dravidian settlers, Aryans, moghals, english, the hippie invasion of the 60s and 70s, and more recently the NRI invasion, people returning from abroad with a different set of cultural blinkers on. I could see indian society going either way, to be honest, continuing on the road to openness and liberalism, or becoming extremely culturally conservative.

[Kavita]

this point has been made elsewhere but here we go again.
culture is not a static thing, your morality (fighting hard not to enclose that in "") is a product of your upbringing and the cultural snapshot of the time. 1000 years ago in India there were many practices that today would be illegal and immoral to the moral majority. India's first contact with western culture came at a time when India was FAR more liberal culturally than most of the west. Here we have an interesting combination between cultural liberalism and the hangover from the raj.
Here we have wave after wave of cultural invasions, the mix of indiginious tribes, Dravidian settlers, Aryans, moghals, english, the hippie invasion of the 60s and 70s, and more recently the NRI invasion, people returning from abroad with a different set of cultural blinkers on. I could see indian society going either way, to be honest, continuing on the road to openness and liberalism, or becoming extremely culturally conservative.

Thanks marko, you have added head to my post.



And this plus many other reasons like, mean nature of few, dumbness, etc lead to supression of propagation of actual cause behind all the nasty and weired looking customs and traditions we follow. Any one over these boards, please be caucious before you talk loose about Indian culture. You are offending me by saying such baseless things. Start using ur common sense to make out the purpose. Try to probe what the vedas are about. You will be surprised to know vedas are not about God.



On topic: Importance of virginity is not overrated but malined by few ***holes (b******* to be more precise) by their dumb myth on the-first-time thing, or me-the-gr8-inaugrating-first and later to you-inferiors kind of attitude.



S-x has a physyological, psychological (emotional feelings) attached to it both for women and men, in varying intensities. Any innocence in its purest form givey lot of happiness and joy just like the one spread by an infant. (If any one disagrees on this, you can ask CAD how much he loves his kid and why, he can tell you in you frequency). Innocence in s-xual life too is like it and it grows more beautifu and mature just like a growing kid and finally into full maturity as in an adult. We in our daily mad rush forget and ignore the little but heaven-resembling happiness and look for something more stronger, long lasting, variety which all can be attained from one single creative partener. Other insecurites, mean-ness also spolis the relationship. And we venture out into the market called world with out marketting startergies called impressive-ness, cool-ness, etc. We see this important physicial relationship as just a game to be enjoyed, adventure to be explored, forgetting the importance of a steady relationship and the required sincierity to keep the relationship going steady.



One question to all those who do not believe in a long, steady relationship - an operation code named Marriage:



What if you fall exteremely sick when you do not have any partner (like the gap when switching from one girl/boy friend to another) and you are all alone living at a remote place far off from your family, and the kind of place you live is a less densly occupied?



Yes, the situation is very hypothitical but very likely to happen too though very infrequently



Only two solutions: your neighbour should shower his pity on you and become a God for you for the moment (though at some corner he/she might be grumbling - u ediot, cant u be careful and have some one to look after you, you and ur sickness took my x amount of valuable time intended for some y high important task) OR you leave you well being and back to normal life thing to chance.



Ask any one, who has returned from the doorsteps of death, the value of life and of a loving family. With loving people called family around you, you can find happiness even in death.



Probe back into history, all clean, neat good relationships were only degraded or supressed due to insecurity. Do you people know why Meera was killed and why she was killed? The answer, for bitching around with a statue of very-cool-smart personality called Krishna. (I do not know how falling in love with a non alive personality become bitching, but that was the reason she was punished to death.) And any good natured human consider Akbar The Great, did not oppose multiple realtionships (story of anarkali is an exception as the would-be Emperor was behaving like a kid let loose on streets) I am not able to recollect any specific incident but good realtionships were given due respect by smart people.



Oh got the incident, though contemporary people killed Meera she is now considered a great women, a symbol of pure love which never materialised.



I am done now. Thats it. *Bad way of concluding, huh*

*yahoo, dil ki bhadas nikal di, hamayya*

*kisi ko offend to nahi kiya, let me wait for people to complain*

[CtrlAltDel]

this point has been made elsewhere but here we go again.
culture is not a static thing, your morality (fighting hard not to enclose that in "") is a product of your upbringing and the cultural snapshot of the time. 1000 years ago in India there were many practices that today would be illegal and immoral to the moral majority. India's first contact with western culture came at a time when India was FAR more liberal culturally than most of the west. Here we have an interesting combination between cultural liberalism and the hangover from the raj.
Here we have wave after wave of cultural invasions, the mix of indiginious tribes, Dravidian settlers, Aryans, moghals, english, the hippie invasion of the 60s and 70s, and more recently the NRI invasion, people returning from abroad with a different set of cultural blinkers on. I could see indian society going either way, to be honest, continuing on the road to openness and liberalism, or becoming extremely culturally conservative.

Thanks marko, you have added head to my post.

And this plus many other reasons like, mean nature of few, dumbness, etc lead to supression of propagation of actual cause behind all the nasty and weired looking customs and traditions we follow. Any one over these boards, please be caucious before you talk loose about Indian culture. You are offending me by saying such baseless things. Start using ur common sense to make out the purpose. Try to probe what the vedas are about. You will be surprised to know vedas are not about God.

:?

mark hasnt said anything baseless Kavita...neither did he talk abt religion or vedas or gods...



it is a fact that the present mentality of treating sex as a taboo is a result of foreign influences in Indian Culture. If u want to go back to vedas, u have to accept the fact that in the vedic times and in centuries following it, no one treated sex like an embarassment. it was apart of it...



if u read kamasutra or see carvings in any ancient temples, u will get my point. Ancient were not shy of talking about sex. they accepted all so called deviants like gays and lesbians.



so all this talk abt sex outside marriage being against Indian Culture is bullshit. its actually a foreign culture we are following.



thats the point mark was making

thats the point mark was trying to make

[mark]

so all this talk abt sex outside marriage being against Indian Culture is bullshit. its actually a foreign culture we are following.

thats the point mark was making
thats the point mark was trying to make

spot on CAD. sorry if i offended you Kavita, that wasn't my intention at all. I have huge respect for the ancient heritage of the Indian subcontinent, and I wouldn't be here if i didn't love your country.

[archii]

well i dont have a point

just want to say nothing wrong in premarital sexxxxxxxx

[Kavita]

Lucifier and Mayavi, why dont you read her post once again? Is it wrong to express once opinion or does expressing opinion mean preaching things? Atleast not to me.

Read them along with the million other posts she made about Indians being this and Indians being that...
Sample this: SS on SALSA thread - Indians know Salsa
yeah right! we are neanderthals (?) who just crawled outta our caves and started posting on a forum.

Then you should have said it in that thread and not here.

[Kavita]

so all this talk abt sex outside marriage being against Indian Culture is bullshit. its actually a foreign culture we are following.

thats the point mark was making
thats the point mark was trying to make

spot on CAD. sorry if i offended you Kavita, that wasn't my intention at all. I have huge respect for the ancient heritage of the Indian subcontinent, and I wouldn't be here if i didn't love your country.

Hey, i wasnt talking about marko. Actually marko's post helped me in making my post and I totally agree with what marko has said.



Infact I feel offended when people, especially Indians talk ill about our culture, religious tolerance. Such a thing kept happening in this forum and I dont even remember who made such comments.



We have very vast culture . Ours is the oldest and stable Civilization which identified and accepted the basic insticts, be it hunger food for or something else.



I havent gone thru kamasutra or visited the caves but I know thier purpose, the intention with which they were create with great caution, courage and intelligence.



Talking more about our culture *I know I am deviating from the topic but I feel like saying it out*

Kamasura - A book made after through 'research' (i dont know, nor want to think of how they did it, i only wish the making of it didnt hurt any one, or deprive any one of their privacy) to facilitate good s*xual life for an individual mainly targeting novice (dumbs, i think) players. It is analogus

to any book published by ppl like Dr.Samaram. And This Is s*x education.



Caves (forgot the name of the famous caves) - The society then in that place was devastated due to calamity (may be epidamic or war or somethig) and people lost happiness from their lives and looked gloomy. The s*x game being highest thiller and safer to life, the then King though would the best way to encourage to start living fun filled lives and order the making of this caves. Very similar to we coming up with theme parks. Thats how smart our kings were, they used to consider every aspect of live, not just this or that. Sincearity, loyality and purity were given very high importance.



Reason why Rama is considered God: (this is mine completely mine, not borrowed from any one)

Love life being so tempting this king refrained from have realtionship with multiple people at time when such a thing was considered a kings normal way of living or a basic right. But I did not like his personality. *oh let me stop here, otherwise I will go on*

[Kavita]

Heard of condoms failing or getting teared?

Actually, Nope

Ever gave a thought to going for children with all the parterns? one per partner, two if the partner is better, etc etc?

Learn Mayavi, learn.. to be caucious when buying.

If you are old enough to have sex, then you are old enough to know the consequences.
If you are not careful, then you have to face the consequences.
Who are we to tell others not to have sex before marriage? Why does one need to have the 'marriage' licence to have sex?
And what is the difference between the kids of divorced/widowed moms and single moms, other than the 'bastard' tag.
Like masalaman said, virginity is over rated. Its a very personal issue and the society need concerned itself with such trivial issues.

But I think society should be caucious, and should protect every ones interest. Some may not be ready for physical relationships out side marriage. But there are so many incidents happening around, minor raped and murded, etc etc. Society considers it a low. And this is misinterpreted AND there are quite many brutes around who drag (innocent, unwise) people into s*x rackets, etc. So society made a Generalised statement - s*x deprived of morals is bad.



All this time I was talking about society and culture but my personal opinion on s*x outside marriage, either before or after, is: its done by over enthuziastic less moraled people. Dont ask me why I think it is moral-less so, I did not figure it out yet, but I think It Is so.



*goes into thinking, I am talking so boldly but will my inbox be infected by messages from people like Raj, God give me the courage and wit to shoo them off.



Message for any Rajs around: I am a decent girl, I swear. Just that I am a bit bold. Please keep away from me for s*xual needs. *

[daisy]

kavita

[agonys_requiem]

i am of the sincere and most heartfelt opinion tht archii needs to die.. like.. really bad.... all in favour say aye.. all opposed.. bend over