Star Wars : Episode III

by **Lucifer** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:12 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:oh yeah...how did i forget that???? is nt that much better than star Wars?

Not really. To be very honest, LOTR bored me in places. Especially the first movie.

by **The Jackal** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:13 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:
The Jackal wrote:
Lucifer wrote:
CtrlAltDel wrote:i hope this doesnt constitute a blasphemy, but i find the Pink Panther and the 007 series far more entertaining!

I would not count 007 as a series for each movie independently stands on its own, unlike Star Wars. To an extent, Matrix II and III are like that. You need to see I to get II, and see II to get III. That is what constitutes a movie series.
Lord of the Rings......
oh yeah...how did i forget that???? is nt that much better than star Wars?

There is even Terminator,Harry Potter,Indiana Jones.

by **Jaszalcatraz** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:15 am

LOTR and Harry Potter dont really count as they were books before they were released.

Terminator 1 is silly and

Indiana Jones has a flaw called Temple of Doom.

Hence Star Wars is greatest Ever.

I'm with you on this one Lucifer.

by **Lucifer** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:20 am

Jaszalcatraz wrote:I'm with you on this one Lucifer.

Yay! And to make a point, Terminator is not really a series. It is a sequel, made only after the first movies did well. The idea was not to make a series, as in the case of Star Wars.

by **The Jackal** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:41 am

Jaszalcatraz wrote:LOTR and Harry Potter dont really count as they were books before they were released.
Terminator 1 is silly and
Indiana Jones has a flaw called Temple of Doom.

Hence Star Wars is greatest Ever.

I'm with you on this one Lucifer.

TOD was good,maybe weaker than the other 2 movie but never the less good.

by **The Jackal** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:52 am

So did anyone see the trailer?

by **mark** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:53 am

you simply can't compare films like the matrix with star wars at this point in time. compare them in 30 years time perhaps, in terms of lasting appeal. The star wars series is simple and universal (it could be set in any time really, i think the story for A new hope is taken from a Kurasawa period piece). The matrix is convoluted and pretentious (when taken as a series) and relies on to many plot gimicks and philosophical props.

i think star wars doesn't translate to the small screen well, imagine being there in 77 and seeing a 20 foot tall tie fighter screeching straight at the screen with neon green lasers firing. amazing. or a 5 mile long star destroyer with about 1000 laser banks all firing at a squadron of x-wings. magic stuff.

by **CtrlAltDel** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:55 am

Jaszalcatraz wrote:Star Wars is greatest Ever.

I'm with you on this one Lucifer.

but take away the computers and special effects and what is there? its just a story of a father and son where the father happens to be the villain. many indian films had similar tales without any spl. effects

by **The Jackal** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:02 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:
Jaszalcatraz wrote:Star Wars is greatest Ever.

I'm with you on this one Lucifer.
but take away the computers and special effects and what is there? its just a story of a father and son where the father happens to be the villain. many indian films had similar tales without any spl. effects

Yeah thats true but we are able to see all these wonderfull movies these days because of Star Wars.

by **mark** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:03 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:
Jaszalcatraz wrote:Star Wars is greatest Ever.

I'm with you on this one Lucifer.
but take away the computers and special effects and what is there? its just a story of a father and son where the father happens to be the villain. many indian films had similar tales without any spl. effects

Seeing Darth Vader as the villain is FAR too simplistic. he has a remarkably deep character considering he wears a mask for the vast majority of his time on screen.

by **Jaszalcatraz** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:04 pm

Take away computers from Matrix and you have blank reel left.

The whole concept of Star Wars isnt a good son and his evil father. Its the concept of the Force and the power of the Force.

The Force is what brings balance to the world. When Evil overpowers good the effect can be felt in the Force. When love is primary, you can feel that in the Force. The evil people do not want money, power, success......they want to be able to control the force. Bring in so much evil that they are the people who decide how the Force should act.

In conclusion.......you got your Star Wars Fundaes very very wrong.

Then there's the Jedi. Who doesnt want to be a Jedi.

by **mark** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:06 pm

Jaszalcatraz wrote:Who doesnt want to be a Jedi.

according to the answer i gave on the last census sheet for religion, i am a Jedi

by **Jasz** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:24 pm

BTW Jackal......where do I download the trailor from.

by **The Jackal** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:28 pm

Jasz wrote:BTW Jackal......where do I download the trailor from.

I got it on a Bit Torrent website.Its 43MB.I can send it to you in Yahoo if you want it.....

by **Jaszalcatraz** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:31 pm

That will be nice

Thank you very much

by **CtrlAltDel** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:19 pm

The Jackal wrote:Yeah thats true but we are able to see all these wonderfull movies these days because of Star Wars.

the ORIGINAL Star Wars series....which were almost the pioneers of the genre and amazed ppl all over the world, showing how a sci-fi tale is to be told. it deservedly became a cult classic. we shud remember that when the series was released, it was something new for the ppl. i am sure that if star wars (origina series) were to have released in the late 80s onwards, they would not have been reached this cult classic.

Jaszalcatraz wrote:Take away computers from Matrix and you have blank reel left.

i agree...Matrix's no classic either...tho its a gr8 entertainer.

Jaszalcatraz wrote:The whole concept of Star Wars isnt a good son and his evil father. Its the concept of the Force and the power of the Force.
The Force is what brings balance to the world. When Evil overpowers good the effect can be felt in the Force. When love is primary, you can feel that in the Force. The evil people do not want money, power, success......they want to be able to control the force. Bring in so much evil that they are the people who decide how the Force should act.
In conclusion.......you got your Star Wars Fundaes very very wrong.

cummon man....no one watches a sci-fi film to understand the philosophy of Life....and what Force? u r talking as if its a real concept. its just a imaginary movie funda, for _'s sake :roll:

even the entire Matrix trilogy is packed with philosophical insights into the meaning of life, karma et al. why isnt that trilogy considered an equal of (or superior to) star wars?

i am not saying Star Wars is a shitty trilogy...as sci-fi movies, they are very well made. but to call em a pathbreaker and the best ever...blah...blah...is just too much...

ET is also a brilliant sci-fi movie. its story is more closer to what ppl can identify with. why isnt that considered superior to star wars?

Jaszalcatraz wrote:Who doesnt want to be a Jedi

they r just memorable movie characters. who doesnt want to be an invisible Mr.India? who doesnt want to be a Gabbar Singh? who doesnt want to be a Bhuvan....?

by **ycr007** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:21 pm

Was the Last Star Wars movie released in Hyd?

The Experience of seeing Star WarsIII @Prasadz or any other multiplex will

be a good one I guess...

by **The Jackal** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:30 pm

ycr007 wrote:Was the Last Star Wars movie released in Hyd?

The Experience of seeing Star WarsIII @Prasadz or any other multiplex will
be a good one I guess...

Yeah I remember seeing Attack of the Clones in Skyline.And the new Star Wars movies are being released in IMAX.So that would be cool.

by **Lucifer** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:34 pm

CAD, you are entitled to your opinion even if I do not really see how you can hold one of this type. But, I need to sat a few things.

You speak of the Force and all being fictitous. No one disputes that. But the point is that the movie makes you believe it as long as you are watching it. To a Star Wars convert, the Force is as real as Indian heat. That is what makes brilliant sci-fi. It takes people on a ride with it. Perhaps you never went with the flow. That is alright. Not everyone has to/can. But, there are many people who have, and to them the movie is about all those things that you call hogwash.

Do you know that people actually queue up outside theatres showing Star Wars months before its release? Not just that, they are also dressed as their favourite character. Now, which movie has done that? Even Megastar's movies have people lining up only a day before their release.

Puhlease! Mr. India? I think I will take a vote on that. Who wants to be Mr. India? Given a choice, would you be a Jedi or a Mr. India?

The point is that no movie has probably touched as many souls as Star Wars has. The cult following is immense and it is strong even to this day. Is that not whay determines how far-reaching a movie is? What is a good movie if not one that has a favourable opinion towards it? And Star Wars has a lot of that.

Yes, Lucas was at the right place at the right time when he released the first movie. Would you not consider him a genius for that? For making something so far-fetched that people had not even imagined it? There have been many clones after that but none has come even close to what Star Wars has done.

Star Wars, in more ways than one, is a path-breaker. Could you tell me any movie that has actually been followed this closely and with so much passion?

by **lizard king** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 1:38 pm

I agree with luci here, the thing is i would nt dare to watch matrix, or to that matter anyother of the other cult movies again, after a few times, but star wars is definitely an exception...can do it any number of times, although i am not a cult follower

by **CtrlAltDel** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:38 pm

Lucifer wrote:...To a Star Wars convert, the Force is as real as Indian heat. That is what makes brilliant sci-fi. It takes people on a ride with it. Perhaps you never went with the flow. That is alright. Not everyone has to/can. But, there are many people who have, and to them the movie is about all those things that you call hogwash...

what can i say to that? i liked the movies but did not see it this way...and i dont think i ever would...

to me it was just another sci-fi movie...!

Lucifer wrote:Do you know that people actually queue up outside theatres showing Star Wars months before its release? Not just that, they are also dressed as their favourite character. Now, which movie has done that?

doesnt it also show that there are lots of unemployed ppl with nothing better to do? they are no way different from the fan-clubs we see in south india and look down upon. even Rajnikanth releases are welcomed by fans dressed in their hero's costumes in that film.

Lucifer wrote:Even Megastar's movies have people lining up only a day before their release.

...and in the days b4 cable TV, there were shows from 5:30 am preceded by a pooja... :roll:

in my younger foolish days i have been to one such 5:30am "premier" of Chiru's 'Trinetrudu' at Odeon

Lucifer wrote:Puhlease! Mr. India? I think I will take a vote on that. Who wants to be Mr. India? Given a choice, would you be a Jedi or a Mr. India?

:lol: i know...but when Mr.India was released, almost every other kid wanted to be one and many enterprising ppl started selling Mr.India bracelets

(i had one too

)

Lucifer wrote:The point is that no movie has probably touched as many souls as Star Wars has. The cult following is immense and it is strong even to this day. Is that not whay determines how far-reaching a movie is? What is a good movie if not one that has a favourable opinion towards it? And Star Wars has a lot of that.

right! i never said it was a bad series!

Lucifer wrote:Yes, Lucas was at the right place at the right time when he released the first movie. Would you not consider him a genius for that? For making something so far-fetched that people had not even imagined it?

yes!

Lucifer wrote:There have been many clones after that but none has come even close to what Star Wars has done.

yes..but then all sci-fi movies started to look alike and the novelty is now lost!

Lucifer wrote:Star Wars, in more ways than one, is a path-breaker.

i agree, but in the sense that it redefined the genre...

Lucifer wrote:Could you tell me any movie that has actually been followed this closely and with so much passion?

well...now Harry Potter is...

by **Lucifer** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:09 pm

CtrlAltDel wrote:what can i say to that? i liked the movies but did not see it this way...and i dont think i ever would... to me it was just another sci-fi movie...!

OK. But, to a lot others it is not. Hey, why are we arguing on this? I think we are on the same wavelength here!

CtrlAltDel wrote:doesnt it also show that there are lots of unemployed ppl with nothing better to do? they are no way different from the fan-clubs we see in south india and look down upon. even Rajnikanth releases are welcomed by fans dressed in their hero's costumes in that film.

That really is not the bone of contention. People are unemployed or not is not the issue for discussion. Yes, I respect Rajnikant for the kind of frenzy he is able to generate. And, no I do not look down upon his fan club. But, does anyone generate the kind of frenzy Star Wars does, whatever the reason be?

CtrlAltDel wrote:...and in the days b4 cable TV, there were shows from 5:30 am preceded by a pooja... in my younger foolish days i have been to one such 5:30am "premier" of Chiru's 'Trinetrudu' at Odeon

Your point is?

CtrlAltDel wrote::lol: i know...but when Mr.India was released, almost every other kid wanted to be one and many enterprising ppl started selling Mr.India bracelets (i had one too )

Never denied the hysteria of Mr. India. Only said that it did not compare to Star Wars.

CtrlAltDel wrote:right! i never said it was a bad series!

Yes, but you did not speak of it in glowing terms, either.

CtrlAltDel wrote:yes..but then all sci-fi movies started to look alike and the novelty is now lost!

To you may be. Not to a cult fan!!!

CtrlAltDel wrote:well...now Harry Potter is...

No. Not even close.

by **CtrlAltDel** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:23 pm

Lucifer wrote:
CtrlAltDel wrote:...and in the days b4 cable TV, there were shows from 5:30 am preceded by a pooja... in my younger foolish days i have been to one such 5:30am "premier" of Chiru's 'Trinetrudu' at Odeon
Your point is?

well...that such craze is there everywhere...where ever people follow movies!

Lucifer wrote:
CtrlAltDel wrote::lol: i know...but when Mr.India was released, almost every other kid wanted to be one and many enterprising ppl started selling Mr.India bracelets (i had one too )
Never denied the hysteria of Mr. India. Only said that it did not compare to Star Wars.

i was not comparing...it was an example to show that any "different" movie has the potential to be a craze or a generation or two!

Lucifer wrote:
CtrlAltDel wrote:right! i never said it was a bad series!
Yes, but you did not speak of it in glowing terms, either.

well...i called it "good" not "outstanding" if thats what u meant... :roll:

Lucifer wrote:
CtrlAltDel wrote:well...now Harry Potter is...
No. Not even close.

:lol: ask the kids, they'll tell u!

by **mark** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:33 pm

CAD, all the series you're comparing it to were based on books that already had a huge cult following (exception is the Matrix, but it hasn't got anywhere near the fan base of Star Wars and never will)

Star Wars created a Universe almost as complex than Tolkiens Middle Earth and brought it to life in the space of the first 30 minutes of the very first film. Tolkien wrote enough for 10 films before the middle earth universe became so complex, i would say Harry Potter is too close to this universe to consider it as having created it's own. The star wars universe, after just 6 hours of film, spawned hundreds of books, at least 30 computer games!!

and god knows how many different series of toys/etc over a period of 30 years, not just the few years around the release of the movies. that is totally unique.

by **CtrlAltDel** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:48 pm

damn!

i am up against an army of Star Wars-ists!

Star Wars : Episode III

feckin pop ups!!

Who is online