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by The Jackal » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:27 pm

Many of the current movies released by Inidan Cinema(I hate calling it bollywood :x ) are ripped of completely from Hollywood movie.There is almost 1 film per month where the story is ripped from a hollywood film.These *beeps* dont cant even keep the originality from the hollywood version.They always insert a song and an emotional scene.Atleast these guys can give some credit to the original guys.



The most blatant remake was Kaante.It was *beep* copied from one of my favorite movies.And that mother****er Sanjay Gupta ruined the story completely.The movie was good but he completely ruined the masterpeice.Till date,Sanjay Gupta has only directed movies where the story was lifted from an hollywood movie:Jung,Kaante,Plan,Musafir,etc.He even copies the dialouge.And this ******* takes the credit for the story.When people asked him whether he copied from hollywood,he says that he was inspired from these movies and didnt copy the story.BULLSHIT. :x :x :x



Anyway check out this site: http://www.bollycat.com .It lists all the movie which are unofficial remakes. :D
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by Sharjeel » Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:59 pm

They're not copied. Thy're inshipred :? ...
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by rock_26iin » Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:03 pm

It's really dis-heartning to see that Indian directors have lost all their creativity and end up copying english movies or making the usual utterly ridiculous melodramatic "dil-deewana ho gaya..." movies. Thats why Black was a movie I really apprecitated, plagiarization notwithstanding.
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by 3 T'z » Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:14 pm

Sharjeel wrote:They're not copied. Thy're inshipred :? ...




K.. lakin once,twice,thrice.....but WHY.. Alwayz?!! :x
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by ~akidna~ » Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:30 pm

Lagaan is one of my only Fav Hindi movie...i hope that is not plagiarized... :?



and ab saare ideas hollywood wale pehle bana lete hain to isme bechaare indian directors ka kya dosh :twisted:
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by The Jackal » Sat Feb 26, 2005 10:29 pm

~akidna~ wrote:Lagaan is one of my only Fav Hindi movie...i hope that is not plagiarized... :?

and ab saare ideas hollywood wale pehle bana lete hain to isme bechaare indian directors ka kya dosh :twisted:
I think Lagaan was an original story. :D
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by Lucifer » Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:16 pm

Hey! Why doesn't anyone talk on Hollywood plagiarising Hindi cinema? Surprised?



That Quentin Tarantino flick that gained so much acclaim, I mean Kill Bill, is a complete rip off of Khoon Bhari Maang.



Parent Trap is a rip off of a Shashi Kapoor movie (cannot recall the name) that came sometime in the early 80s.



There are many more. Will post more as I recall them. But, the fact of the matter is that we are not the only ones lifting concepts and claiming them to be ours.
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by The Jackal » Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:38 pm

WHF!!!!!!!!!!!Comparing KB to some hindi flick? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Anyway yes KB story is lifted from some Asian Movies but they are not Indian.QT was inspired from those old 1950's Chinese/Japanese Films.And QT was planning to make this movie since a long time,he had this idea in 1995 after PF released.But he didnt have a good ending so he waited this long.Anyway this is the story of Khoon Bhari Maang:



Nandini (Sonu Walia) and Sanjay Verma (Kabir Bedi) are lovers, and they conspire to take over the vaste estate of Mr. Saxena (Saeed Jaffrey) and his only widowed daughter, Aarti (Rekha), and her two children, with the help of Sanjay's maternal uncle Heeralal (Kader Khan), a longtime employee of Saxena. After Saxena passes away suddenly, Sanjay woes Aarti and marries her. On a boating trip both Nandini and Sanjay do away with Aarti, making it look like an accident, and subsequently take over the entire Saxena estate. But Aarti survives, disfigured beyond recognition by a crocodile attack, With the help of plastic surgery transforms herself to a successful model, Jyoti. She then plans to carry out her vengeance against Sanjay, but finds that he has been physically abusing her children, pets, and servants. She must now decide to reveal her identity, or continue with her plan and be a spectator to the abuse on her loved ones.



I dont see any similarities.Except for the revenge theme,which is there in many many movies. :roll:
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by rock_26iin » Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:55 am

I thought KB was based on a book called 'The Bride" Don't remeber the name

of the author
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by The Jackal » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:05 am

rock_26iin wrote:I thought KB was based on a book called 'The Bride" Don't remeber the name
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No i think thats a different movie.The Bride was made up by Uma Thurman. :D
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by rock_26iin » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:21 am

The Jackal wrote:
rock_26iin wrote:I thought KB was based on a book called 'The Bride" Don't remeber the name
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No i think thats a different movie.The Bride was made up by Uma Thurman. :D




Maybe...but I pretty vividly recall somewhere reading that KB was based on The Bride and whats more, I think I read it during the credits of the movie. :? :? :?
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:24 am

Jhuk gaya Aasman (Rajendra Kumar, Aasha Parekh, 1965), Yamudii Mogudu (Chiranjeevi, Radha, Vijaya Shanti) copied as 'Back from Heaven' something (Chris rock). I am not sure if the original Hindi movie itself was copied from Hollywood movie.

But thats not a big deal. One in 1000 movies may be copied w/o giving credit to original movie makers. But evey other India movie is either a love story or a Hollywood remake. Telugu cinema is much more worse. They even lift dialogues, comedy and music tracks or just make an 'original' seema cinema :roll:
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by Lucifer » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:09 pm

A point here. How many Hollywood movies actually make it to Indian shores? About 50 a year may be from the hundreds that they make. How many Hollywood movies do you watch in a year? Probably a similar number.



What I am trying to say is that only the best of Hollywood ever leaves America. Most of their movies are trash too. Not just that, even they are remakes of other movies and they do not give credits either. For example: How many creature features are made each year? It is a mind-bogglingly huge number. Don't tell me that you can actually have any original concepts in a creature feature. Then almost every Hollywood movie has the heroes battling their demons (father's death, somebody whose life they could not save, etc.), which they ultimately exorcise themselves of by doing what they fear. Where is the originality there?



Yes, they do make some good movies. And these are the only ones that we get to see. The case is different for Indian cinema. We see/hear about almost every piece of crap. But, we also make some good movies. Who has not liked movies like Maqbool, Black, or even Swades (I am only naming from the most recent of the lot)?



So, it is really not fair to pass judgement on Hindi cinema simply because the statistics are stacked against it. Yes, if you are in the habit of watching about 300 Hollywood movies each year and a similar Indian ones, then I guess you could label them crap or a masterful ones.



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by lonewolf » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:18 pm

Lucifer wrote:Parent Trap is a rip off of a Shashi Kapoor movie (cannot recall the name) that came sometime in the early 80s.




I never knew there was an Indian version of Parent Trap.



BTW, I saw both the versions of Parent Trap; the original version was made in 1961.



Here is the link :arrow: http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1800104804



The other version of Parent Trap that you might have seen was made in 1998 ; so its not really a copy of Shashi Kapoor's movie, but a copy of the 1961 English version.
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by ~akidna~ » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:44 pm

Lucifer wrote:Parent Trap is a rip off of a Shashi Kapoor movie (cannot recall the name) that came sometime in the early 80s.

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Are you talkin about the one with young neetu singh doing a double role.i think it was called "do kaliyan".
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by Lucifer » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:49 pm

~akidna~ wrote:
Lucifer wrote:Parent Trap is a rip off of a Shashi Kapoor movie (cannot recall the name) that came sometime in the early 80s.

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Are you talkin about the one with young neetu singh doing a double role.i think it was called "do kaliyan".




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by SimarikSmokin » Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:27 pm

Everything in bollywood is copied from american shows, movies, Like this new show called Kabhi Haan Kabhi Naa on Zee tv is a copy of Sex and the City, Chi and Me- ET



I think India cinema should be original like how the old shows were.
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:42 pm

lonewolf wrote:
Lucifer wrote:Parent Trap is a rip off of a Shashi Kapoor movie (cannot recall the name) that came sometime in the early 80s.


I never knew there was an Indian version of Parent Trap.

BTW, I saw both the versions of Parent Trap; the original version was made in 1961.

Here is the link :arrow: http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1800104804

The other version of Parent Trap that you might have seen was made in 1998 ; so its not really a copy of Shashi Kapoor's movie, but a copy of the 1961 English version.




It was also made in Telugu and Tamil in the 60's. In the telugu version, kutti padmini played the kid's role... so it must've been made around 65 or so.

Just checked IMDB, the movie is Letha Manasulu, 1966.
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by SimarikSMokin » Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:48 pm

You know i like the older indian movies, with nargis and madhubala and dilip kumar those movies were truly original and real
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by CtrlAltDel » Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:58 am

Lucifer wrote:...only the best of Hollywood ever leaves America. Most of their movies are trash too. Not just that, even they are remakes of other movies.................Yes, they do make some good movies. And these are the only ones that we get to see.
Lucifer's right. most of the numerous B-Grade n C-Grade movies never reach India n most other countries. thats why ppl like us Indians think whatever hollywood does is the height of creativity and artistry. in india most of those B or C ...or Z films are picked up for cable telecast by Star Movies, HBO, AXN and ZEE-MGM. in the 90s selected B/C-movies (usually action flicks starring ppl like Robert Patrick for example) were screened regularly at the erstwhile Surya cinema at Abids.



...btw the original Parent Trap made in 1961 was the original...and it spawned remakes in many Indian languages. even Sound of Music has its indian versions in almost all languages that has a film industry.



but the latest reverse copying has occured in the case of Munnabhai MBBS. the english remake rights have been purchased by 20th Century Fox. :D click here for details.
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by akhilis2cool » Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:39 am

SimarikSmokin wrote:Everything in bollywood is copied from american shows, movies, Like this new show called Kabhi Haan Kabhi Naa on Zee tv is a copy of Sex and the City, Chi and Me- ET

I think India cinema should be original like how the old shows were.
Hey look! she actually used commas in her sentence. :D





BTW i think most of the serials on Starone are Cuts Paste jobs from the west. :roll: :x
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by lizard king » Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:57 am

akhilis2cool wrote:
SimarikSmokin wrote:Everything in bollywood is copied from american shows, movies, Like this new show called Kabhi Haan Kabhi Naa on Zee tv is a copy of Sex and the City, Chi and Me- ET

I think India cinema should be original like how the old shows were.
Hey look! she actually used commas in her sentence. :D


BTW i think most of the serials on Starone are Cuts Paste jobs from the west. :roll: :x


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by ycr007 » Sun Aug 07, 2005 1:19 pm

Well,Yesterday I Heard the Album "More Hits,No Words" Which was a compilation of Themes & Music Pieces & I was :shock: :shock: when i Realised that Most of them have been 'Lifted' and 'Used' in Hindi Movies :x



There was the original of the Bit That comes at the beginning of "Tu Mile...."from Criminal.Shame on MM Keeravani :x

Then there was Fable by Robert Miles which was 'used' in "Okka Saari....." in Nuvvu Naaku Nachevu :x

And Age of Loneliness by Enigma Which was also 'Used' Many a time :x
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