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by DQ » Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:29 am

Apologise again, CADs post above this makes a lot sense Xeno read it.



And again forget all shirts and trousers dude. Do you agree to this statement or no. Simple" Yes or No"



"You agree that the evangilists are exploiting the situation, by being selective in charity.

THis is how the world views it. "Our food and Money is is with you if you are with us, else go to hell, your plight is your plight let who ever is interested help you ?"

Do you agree?
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by DQ » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:01 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:FYI, local muslims in that area unconditonally helped hindus and gave them shelter in mosques...THAT IS CALLED TRUE HUMANITY. they did not ask those people to convert to islam first...and in the process gained gratitude, respect and love of everyone.....incl the Hindu lunatic fringe.




Given the fact they are not supposed to allow Non Muslims in mosques.



On the contrary though CAD, I heard a number of Donors in the Middle east would not donate until they were not 100 per cent sure that money they donated was going to Muslims alone.



So this tendancy exists everywhere.



The base line is, all humans need to understand that Charity does not come with a Price / Race / Relegion / Creed Tag.

Its a spontaneous act thanking whatever God you pary to for keeping you safe from situations others are facing. From letting other human beings know that they are not alone in this world. And in times of such natural disasters definattely selective distribution is the handiwork of satan and the sickiest barin on the globe. If such people wear the masks of godliness we need to tear it down.



Selective charity should be condemened in whatever way, be it a discussion on 1000 mile away discussion board.
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by Xeno » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:10 am

CtrlAltDel wrote:f*ck the shirt colors...:roll:...i'll be direct now....



Alright, back to our main topic which is sort of getting to be a marathon,

CAD it didnt take me much time to get you to say what I wanted you to say,its good that you are being direct after all shirt colors were just an analogy, I would like to reiterate here again as I have done ealier that I am not pro or anti any religion I am not a religiuos person at all,having said that neither I am triying to justify Evangelical christians nor am I trying to put people like CAD in bad light.

[quote ="CtrlAltDel"]whats does it show about the evangelists who enter a disaster affected area and proclaim that they wud rescue ppl only if they convert to their sect....??????
those inhuman _ are not helping ppl who refuse to convert...didnt this fact occur to u...?
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Hold on one second! did they ever say that,this is just an exaggeration infact a fabricated lie,this just goes on to show your obsession with religion, you are so obsessed with religion that you have forgotten how to think and reason,work harder,creating this thread just makes you sound like an alarmist fraidy-cat!

[quote ="CtrlAltDel"]they are just unwanted pests...like rats that come out after a flood in order to feed on the remains.
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you are saying that they are unwanted just becuase they are not of the same religion as yours!even though they look like you(they are indians too) ...

[quote ="CtrlAltDel"]...and about me staying 1000s of miles away and being concerned about it...its perfectly justified
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I am guessing that without religion you see no other meaning to life?

You don't think that life is an enjoyable, adventurous learning experience on its own?

You don't believe that living simply for the purpose of LIVING is enough?

People aren't a good enough reason but religion is to wake up every morning and hope for the next day?

Living life is reason enough, and it's far more productive than turning it all over to the religious belief you practice.



Its not that people if even if they convert to christianity will make them turn into monsters or cannibals they will still be the same humans,so from a practical point of view there is no reason to be concerned about unless the ideology you stick to demands your immediate concern and makes you come up with this thread..
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by akhilis2cool » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:42 am

The last part of ur post makes no sense dude. its completely off topic.



What u r trying to say is that religion shd. not mean nething ppl. But u fail to understand that in reality religion is taken far more seriously than u can imagine. Thats why the evangelics come there.



Why shd. ppl. convert to christianity to get help? U r saying they shd. do it becoz U think religion is not a important thing. If religion is not an important thing in peoples lives then why dont u go and teach the evangelics abt. the importance or non importance of religion?



U r just trying to force ur thoughts/opinions/beliefs on others by telling them not to take religion seriously.
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by DQ » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:51 am

DQ wrote:Apologise again, CADs post above this makes a lot sense Xeno read it.

And again forget all shirts and trousers dude. Do you agree to this statement or no. Simple" Yes or No"

"You agree that the evangilists are exploiting the situation, by being selective in charity.

THis is how the world views it. "Our food and Money is is with you if you are with us, else go to hell, your plight is your plight let who ever is interested help you ?"

Do you agree?




CUT THE MARATHON TO A 100 METER SPRINT. DO YOU SAY YES OR NO TO THE ABOVE. SIMPLE DUDE. IT WOULD ANSWER MOST OF WHAT YOU STAND FOR?
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by CtrlAltDel » Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:39 am

xeno...i always maintained that an individual has the right to start, convert to or preach any religion.



i am just against how the evangelists go about it. they behave like salesmen who are selling a product to the public.



i am not exaggerating in my comments. i have seen it happen twice in normal times (no disasters) and the article i posted here shows how they behaved after the tsunami.



they are tarnishing the name and reputation of 1000s of dedicated christian groups (indian or foreign) who are selflessly working for the upliftment of the poor n backward people in india.



whatever arguement u r putting forth, applies equally to the evangelical groups as well.
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