Andaman&Nicobar Island after tsunami

[savita lal]

Hello discussion group,

I am savita lal an old inhabintant of Andaman&Nicobar Island.Iwould like to ask u a very important question for the satisfaction of the islanders,who are already under :shocked: till todayfrom the very first day of the tsunami.

1.Is it true that Andaman & Nicobar Island is sinking day by day?

2.Whats the latest steps are taken by the home ministery of India for the protection of the Islander?

eagerly waiting for reply.



thanks

savitalal

[Xeno]

Savita,



The truth is that the people of Andaman(Natives) were not given proper relief by the gobvernment even after so many days,first they have thse rules that no foreign agencies can go there to do the relief efforts,then we have had so many reports in the media that the indian relief offcials(army, ngos,police,state machinery etc) were totally biased in providing the relief ,they were just ignoring the native people of Andaman and were only helping tjose people who were not the natives ,based on their caste creed etc.



As to your question about andmana sinking yes there has been massive devastation no one will know the exact figures becuase no one i sall.owed to go there to help people ,all the non natiives are out of Andaman and Nicobar and the natives are left there sinking ,I hope they are still alive.This is the truth.

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Xeno, If you pull that head of yours out of your ass and read up a bit, then you will see what relief efforts are underway in Andaman and car Nicobar islands.



As for identifying the damage done to the islands, there are satellite images taken by Isro satellites which showed a 4m (or is it KM) shift in the islands away from the main land. Apart from that the Indian Navy survey ships mapped the area extensively immediately after the tsunami. Your ordinary NGO's and religious organisations are not equipped or interested in evaluating the damage done to the Islands. So STFU

[Xeno]

Xeno, If you pull that head of yours out of your ass and read up a bit

Strangely some people have not evolved yet ,their evolution is yet to reach the sophisticated level of civilized people....

[HH]

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Strangely some people...,their evolution is yet to reach the sophisticated level of civilized people....

Chai Thanda Ho Jayega ... LITE Lenaa ... A&N Ko Sarkar Kya Uuparwaley Bhi Kuchh Nahin Kar Payega ... Banda Aceh Se A&N Ke Biich Zamin Ko Plastic Plate Ke Jaisa Mod / "Twist" Ho Gaya

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Xeno, If you pull that head of yours out of your ass and read up a bit

Strangely some people have not evolved yet ,their evolution is yet to reach the sophisticated level of civilized people....

Right!

[CtrlAltDel]

The truth is that the people of Andaman(Natives) were not given proper relief by the gobvernment even after so many days,first they have thse rules that no foreign agencies can go there to do the relief efforts,then we have had so many reports in the media that the indian relief offcials(army, ngos,police,state machinery etc) were totally biased in providing the relief ,they were just ignoring the native people of Andaman and were only helping tjose people who were not the natives ,based on their caste creed etc.

As to your question about andmana sinking yes there has been massive devastation no one will know the exact figures becuase no one i sall.owed to go there to help people ,all the non natiives are out of Andaman and Nicobar and the natives are left there sinking ,I hope they are still alive.This is the truth.

if u read something apart from evangelical news letter and web sites, u wud have come across the following facts:



1) many of the tribals got away to safety in highlands coz they have a better sense of approaching disasters (testimonies by a few rescued tribals on media)



2) many marooned tribals were rescued and are in the relief camps (many newspapers carried photographs n tv channels incl bbc showed visuals)



3) many tribes refuse to be rescued and prefer to be left alone (seen the famous pic of a tribal aiming his bow at a rescue chopper of the indian navy?)



4) indian govt. and anthropologists are searching for many tribals who are still missing.



5) even all indian citizens are barred from contact with the tribals, whats so special abt the foreign groups? the indian govt has the best knowledge abt the tribals and andaman topography.



6) the tribals are kept apart for various reasons:(a) their culture/way of life should not be influenced by outsiders (b) the natives do not have the immunity that wud make them resist diseases/ailments brought in by outsiders (c) some of the tribals do not want any contact with outsiders and are hostile.



7) the groups that are complaining loudest abt the indian govt's attitude are the evangelicals who lost an opportunity to increase their flock.



its not true that foreigners are barred frm the islands. there were always a few accredited foreign scientists and anthropologists working in the islands with permission from the govt of india



9) its the sovereign right of the indian govt to accept or refuse any help.

[HH]

... if u read something apart from evangelical news letter and web sites, u wud have come across the following facts:

1) many of the tribals got away to safety in highlands coz they have a better sense of approaching disasters (testimonies by a few rescued tribals on media)
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9) its the sovereign right of the indian govt to accept or refuse any help.

Well Said, FH God, "CtrlAltDel"!

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[CtrlAltDel]

... if u read something apart from evangelical news letter and web sites, u wud have come across the following facts:

1) many of the tribals got away to safety in highlands coz they have a better sense of approaching disasters (testimonies by a few rescued tribals on media)
...
9) its the sovereign right of the indian govt to accept or refuse any help.

Well Said, FH God, "CtrlAltDel"!
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thanQ saar! its just that i cant stand ppl talking sh*t like that abt indians

[3 T'z]

... if u read something apart from evangelical news letter and web sites, u wud have come across the following facts:

1) many of the tribals got away to safety in highlands coz they have a better sense of approaching disasters (testimonies by a few rescued tribals on media)
...
9) its the sovereign right of the indian govt to accept or refuse any help.

Well Said, FH God, "CtrlAltDel"!
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thanQ saar! its just that i cant stand ppl talking sh*t like that abt indians

Yup we figured tht out..

[Xeno]

1) many of the tribals got away to safety in highlands coz they have a better sense of approaching disasters (testimonies by a few rescued tribals on media)


7) the groups that are complaining loudest abt the indian govt's attitude are the evangelicals who lost an opportunity to increase their flock.

I really appreciate your effort in putting up all these random references together.CtrlAltDel(can you come up with an easy to type name I have hard time typing it) what kind of senses do humans have to predict the impending disasters,just becuase they are tribals does it mean they have more senses than otherwise people living in cities would have ,I thougt you were more intelligent than that,ok I dont wanna make any personal comments about anyone,but why do you have to see everything from the religious point of view,this is a huge calamity of incomprehensible proportions ,just becuase you dont like the evangeliclas you wont let them help people ,are you not concerned about the loss of human life the suffering the agony.



If quoting cliches makes you feel justifying the suffereing of people of A&N then so be it ,I feel sorry for you.

[ilayaraja_fan]

cannot stop laughing at ur line of argument.. u do not have confidence on the govt that is providing u a safe haven and the freedom to do everything including this kind of crap, but u r willing to believe the intentions of the evangelicals and other foreign missionaries whose only aim is to forcibly spread the so called "message of God"..



words fail me.. pathetic.. absolutely disgusting

[Xeno]

cannot stop laughing at ur line of argument..

They say laughing is good for health,keep laughing..

[Xeno]

cannot stop laughing at ur line of argument.. u do not have confidence on the govt that is providing u a safe haven and the freedom to do everything including this kind of crap, but u r willing to believe the intentions of the evangelicals and other foreign missionaries whose only aim is to forcibly spread the so called "message of God"..

words fail me.. pathetic.. absolutely disgusting

You sound like a retired school principal are you...IlayaRaja

[ilayaraja_fan]

cannot stop laughing at ur line of argument..

They say laughing is good for health,keep laughing..

yep.. had a good laugh on ur account.. thank you for that



hope this is the last of such comedies though

[ilayaraja_fan]

You sound like a retired school principal are you...IlayaRaja

nahh.. but I dont find anything wrong with being a retired school principal.. I can definitely see how u can find a problem with that though

[Xeno]

You sound like a retired school principal are you...IlayaRaja

nahh.. but I dont find anything wrong with being a retired school principal.. I can definitely see how u can find a problem with that though

Its good to know that you have sense of humor too, not one of those maniacs..

[ilayaraja_fan]

why do I not feel flattered

[Xeno]

why do I not feel flattered

Theres no hurry ,dont rush, take your time..

[Mayavi Morpheus]

I really appreciate your effort in putting up all these random references together.CtrlAltDel(can you come up with an easy to type name I have hard time typing it) what kind of senses do humans have to predict the impending disasters,just becuase they are tribals does it mean they have more senses than otherwise people living in cities would have ,I thougt you were more intelligent than that,

There is a big difference between tribals and city dwellers. Tribals live in jungles, their life and death is dependent on nature/jungles and they understand it better than anyone. They can predict the changes in nature. They have better instincts. They gained this knowledge by years of observation and it is passed to future generations by word of mouth. So, it is no wonder that predicted the tsunami and moved to higher ground. How else can you explain the fact that 9000 people were killed in TN, which is 1500 miles away from the epicenter, while most of the tribes in the remote islands of Car Nicobar, which is 170 miles off the epicenter, survived with zero casualities.
Watch Dersu uzala by Akira Kurasowa and you will understand how tribals are different from ordinary city folks.

ok I dont wanna make any personal comments about anyone,but why do you have to see everything from the religious point of view,this is a huge calamity of incomprehensible proportions ,just becuase you dont like the evangeliclas you wont let them help people ,are you not concerned about the loss of human life the suffering the agony.

If quoting cliches makes you feel justifying the suffereing of people of A&N then so be it ,I feel sorry for you.

Why are you so eager that foreign agencies help India? Dont we have the money and man power to help ourselves? What can they do that we cant do ourselves? Is lack of money a problem in the first place?

There are several foreign agencies and Indian NGO's helping people in Tamil Nadu, do you know how disorganised they are? Didnt you read the reports about how these aid organisations are just dumping food and clothes in the villages and not actually distributing them to the needy? They dont co-ordinate with the government, and everyone has their own agenda.

Btw, religious conversion is not the reason why Foreign Organisations were not allowed. I read somewhere that nicobari's, the largest tribal population in A&N, are 90% christian. So I dont think the evangelists will find any more converts among tribals. Its the stratergic nature of the Islands that prevented GOI to allow foreign aid organisations.

[Xeno]

which is 1500 miles away from the epicenter, while most of the tribes in the remote islands of Car Nicobar, which is 170 miles off the epicenter, survived with <b>zero casualities</b>

Where do you get your fcts from man,there have more casualities in Andaman and Nicobar than any other place in Indian ,whole cities have been wiped off,please make sure have the facts right before you make such irresponsible statements ,again my suggestion to you dont bring in religiuos politics into the discussions...

[Mayavi Morpheus]

sigh



Well, post your sources then. Actual confirmed deaths and not guesstimated figures.







one for RF

[CtrlAltDel]

I really appreciate your effort in putting up all these random references together.

well i counter random arguements with 'randomer' points...

CtrlAltDel(can you come up with an easy to type name I have hard time typing it)

u can call me CAD like others here

what kind of senses do humans have to predict the impending disasters,just becuase they are tribals does it mean they have more senses than otherwise people living in cities would have

mayavi has already answered that.

I thougt you were more intelligent than that,

maybe

why do you have to see everything from the religious point of view,this is a huge calamity of incomprehensible proportions ,just becuase you dont like the evangeliclas you wont let them help people ,are you not concerned about the loss of human life the suffering the agony.

govt of india is handling the situation very well and have refused external help not only in Andamans, but also on the main land. the govt also has enuf resources to help Sri Lanka, Maldives and Indonesia. Indian navy was responsible for the survival of Maldivians in few of their islands. Indian Navy was the first to reach eastern sri lankan coast and set up rescue ops and hospital facilities. Indian navy is helping out with medical facilities in Indonesia too. we dont need much external help, thank you.

If quoting cliches makes you feel justifying the suffereing of people of A&N then so be it ,I feel sorry for you.

good...some one feels sorry for me....can u influence my manager in any way? that b*****d is over-burdening poor me

Where do you get your fcts from man,there have more casualities in Andaman and Nicobar than any other place in Indian ,whole cities have been wiped off,

what cities have been wiped of in andaman. only big town there is Port Blair, the capital where many settlers died...a large proportion of ppl who died there are settlers from the main land. mnay tribals died but a larger number escaped by their own skills or have ended up in relief camps.

no one please make sure have the facts right before you make such irresponsible statements

why dont u do the same too, before making random accusations abt the indian govt...?

again my suggestion to you dont bring in religiuos politics into the discussions

who started talking about the "racial bias" of indian govt...?

[HH]

I really appreciate your effort in putting up all these random references together.

well i counter random arguements with 'randomer' points ...

again my suggestion to you dont bring in religiuos politics into the discussions

who started talking about the "racial bias" of indian govt...?

First 'A&N' ... Then 'PC' ... Again 'A&N' ... "CtrlAltDel" ... 'Finessed' ... "Xenon" ... Make / Take It LITE Please!

[akhilis2cool]

I really appreciate your effort in putting up all these random references together.

well i counter random arguements with 'randomer' points ...

again my suggestion to you dont bring in religiuos politics into the discussions

who started talking about the "racial bias" of indian govt...?

First 'A&N' ... Then 'PC' ... Again 'A&N' ... "CtrlAltDel" ... 'Finessed' ... "Xenon" ... Make / Take It LITE Please!

I second that.

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