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Are Indian laws biased against men ?

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by for_ugly_feminists » Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:18 am

The Indian Situation Lags by the American situation by a couple of years.

Here is what Americans are saying.....



http://www.feminismkills.com/



Can you imagine the scene aboard the sinking Titanic, if patriarchy and male chivalry were traded for feminism, equality, and "women's liberation"? In such a case, the children would have all been loaded into the life boats first, and then the remaining life boats would have had to have been equally divided between the men and the women. Of course, the feminists would probably have argued that the captain of the ship was a man, and so the blame for the sinking ship was the fault of men. Therefore, an exception should be made, and a "women and children first" policy should be followed in this case, when it comes to who should be allowed into the life boats. Note that the "women and children first" policy puts women before children, instead of children before women. Does this sound familiar? This sort of sounds like our depraved public policy of abortion on demand, doesn't it? Hmmmmm? WOMEN FIRST! As for the men on the sinking Titanic, well, if the captain of the ship was anything like the feminist lapdog family court judges we have today, then the ruling would have been, "Sorry, men, but the sharks need to eat too, don't you know?"...............
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:26 am

facts_single_mothers wrote:In US,
Single Mothers

Children from single-mother households, compared to children of two-parent households where the father is present, are more likely to go to prison by 20 times, to commit suicide by 5 times, to have behavioral problems by 20 times, to become rapists by 14 times, to run away by 32 times, to abuse chemical substances by 10 times, to drop out of high school by 9 times, to be seriously abused by 33 times, to be fatally abused by 73 times, to be one tenth as likely to get A's in school, and to [per Lenore Weitzman] have a 72% lower standard of living.


Now, I would like to see how someone says, I do not care while sitting on this kind of a time bomb in India.


Behind every successful man, there is a woman.

This souds Great.

But, the chance of unsuccessful men getting interviewed is Nil. Nobody asks the unsuccessful men who is behind them.

This is called biases sampling in statistics. It is important that whenever statistics is quoted, we have to take samples from both sides. Otherwise, what we get will lead us to dangerous conclusions. If you have doubts, then I can post another statistical analysis in newspapers which says "Women are Born Liars." But I will not accept it until I get a similar analysis done for men which may in the end say "Men are born liars"..






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by RoadMap_implemented » Tue Dec 28, 2004 12:05 am

Some of the Action Points for Anti-Feminism are:

1) Awareness in Media (Newspaper Articles and in TV)



We are already in Newspapers in big way and now started in TV.



2) Internet Articles.



Just search in google and you can find our reach.



Search for words..... dowry laws.... and we are in second position.



other keywords include dowry techies nris helpline



Its just a matter on time, we will drown indian feminists in internet.



3) Conferences on Men's issues attended by advocates and judges.



4) "Helpline for Men" getting registered officially.



5) Opening and partnering with more organisations across the country to

expose feminist lies and their biased sampling statistical methods.



6) Exposing feminist lies using Systems Theory and Computer Simulation of complexity.



Indian Feminazies have committed a grave blunder by going against Techies.





Article on us in Newspaper recently:

http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanheral ... 004/s7.asp



Dharna by Sangyabalya

Members of Sangyabalya, a society for promotion of marital harmony, staged a dharna in front of the Mahatma Gandhi statue on M G Road in Bangalore on Sunday, in support of husbands and families victimised by anti-dowry laws.

In a pamphlet distributed by the protesters, the Society members have pointed out that the laws do not recognise the possibility of wives and daughters-in-law ill-treating the husband and aged in-laws or other vulnerable members of the husband’s family.



The society also runs a helpline for affected husbands and their families.

(080) 56969850.
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Newspapers in America write the Extortion by girl's families

by misuse_dowry_laws » Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:47 pm

Our Article is published on coverpage of indiawest, weekly indian newspaper in North America.



Article is by LISA TSERING, India-West Staff Reporter





http://www.indiawest.com/cgi-bin/news/v ... =Coverpage



also

http://www.indiawest.com/
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Article in Indiawest newspaper in north America

by misuse_dowry_laws » Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:59 pm

from article in http://www.indiawest.com



............

A small but vocal community of so-called "498A victims" has been

mobilizing over the Internet, trading furious stories and offering

help and advice for men who find themselves in that situation.

During his interview with India-West, Deepak's cell phone kept

ringing nearly every five minutes — calls came from men around the

country who also claim to have been falsely accused. Deepak plans to

launch a Web site so that more NRIs can support each other.

A small but dedicated nongovernmental organization in Bangalore,

Sangyabalya, is working to create a dowry-free society and works on

behalf of falsely accused individuals in India (see below for its

helpline phone number). Sangyabalya's helpline only operates two

hours a night, two nights a week, but still manages to receive up to

10 calls per night.

After all he's been through, Deepak offers this advice to men

desiring an "old-fashioned" Indian girl: "Don't go to India to get

married. There are a lot of great first-generation Indian girls here.

"I see these guys at the airport on their way to India, and I think —

they look like poultry going to be slaughtered," Deepak told India-

West with a melancholy laugh.
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article in indiawest on US State dept. on misuse of dowrylaw

by misuse_dowry_laws » Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:18 pm

Ref: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_t ... _1139.html



DOWRY/VISA DEMANDS: A number of U.S. citizen men who have come to India to marry Indian nationals have been arrested and charged with crimes related to dowry extraction. Many of the charges stem from the U.S. citizen's inability to provide an immigrant visa for his prospective spouse to travel immediately to the United States. The courts sometimes order the U.S. citizen to pay large sums of money to his spouse in exchange for the dismissal of charges. The courts normally confiscate the American's passport, and he must remain in India until the case has been settled. There are also cases of U.S. citizen women whose families force them against their will into marriages to Indian nationals.



Shame for Indian Government



as written in article in http://www.indiawest.com by LISA TSERING

(requires subscription)



The US State Department cannot say how many false complaints are filed

each year. However, "The fact that we issued a warning should be an

indication of how widespread the problem is," said John Peters, the

department's Citizen Services Specialist for India. Peters, who is

based in Washington, D.C., told India-West that the local American

Embassies could provide a list of Indian lawyers in New Delhi.

Angela Aggeler, a spokesperson for the State Department in
Washington, D.C.,
said that "American citizens are often extremely

desirable" to Indian families with marriageable daughters.

Still, as in any case where an American citizen is accused of

breaking local laws overseas, there is not much that the State

Department can do, she told India-West. "Our role in the State

Department is maintaining the safety and security of American

citizens overseas. That is even more important to us than issuing

visas." Although the department will do "what we can to ensure fair

treatment under local laws, you need to be aware of the laws in that

country, regardless of how true the accusations are. It's incumbent

upon [the U.S. citizen] to adhere to the local law."

Aggeler, who has lived in India, says she empathizes with citizens in

this predicament. "I know how complicated the law is in India," she

said.

Aggeler said the State Department decided to publish the travel
warning after receiving information from the three U.S. embassies in
India as well as from local law enforcement agencies and global
agencies such as Interpol.
Just as the U.S. State Department's ability to get involved is

limited, so too is that of the Indian Embassy here in the U.S.

Akhilesh Mishra, deputy consul general for the Consulate General of

India in San Francisco, told India-West: "The Consulate has no

specific role or comment on the issue, which has to be addressed

through usual legal means."
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by mark » Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:21 pm

misuse_dowry_laws wrote:
The entire thing is a Matrix.






that's pretty profound, man. you should make a film about it. you could call it "The Array"
While one who sings with his tongue on fire Gargles in the rat race choir Bent out of shape from society's pliers Cares not to come up any higher But rather get you down in the hole that he's in
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by misuse_dowry_laws » Mon Jan 03, 2005 1:23 am

Just now, I finished couselling a guy who is being threatened by his in-laws and also the CAW(Crime against women) Cell in police station. The guy works in an MNC and his parents do not stay with him. Now, they have to run around the CAW cell. What they get is continuous threats ? Somehow, we the counsellors have given him enough support so that he is not afraid of the hollow threats. Otherwise, imagine your psychological state when sitting in a police station with 3 or 4 policemen shouting and threating you. The guy really has got the nerves. But think of his parents. If they have some disease or heart problem etc, then where things can lead to.



There are many such institutions in India which are based on negativity (ex. corruption and bribery). Can such organisations ever do anything positive for the society ? The response of many Feminists to the misuse of dowry laws is "Tell us which other law is not misused ?".



How many people out of the 100 crores do really know what dowry laws are ? Not even 1%. Then whats the use of having laws to create a deterant when the violators do not even know the existence of the law.



So far as feminists are concerned what they want is a headcount of Bakras to show their achievements to the vested interests abroad. They just have to show how many are booked (innocent or otherwise).



Just few days back, I got a 1 full page article in Newspaper Statesman on Misuse of dowry laws by wilful women which advised the females some patience and respect for other's rights while asserting their own rights. Now, we are going to convert this kind of newspaper articles into big frames and start an exhibition.



A typical false can can go on for 4 years. The expense incurred by the govt. per case is at least Rs.200,000/- for the salaries of the judges, public prosecuters, clerks,police salaries, jail expenses, transportation, food, infrastructure costs like room rents. For 50,000 false cases it can go to Rs.1000 crores of tax payer's money.



In the end of the day, we all are shown statistics that the dowry deaths are increasing. Do not we have a right to ask whats the return out of the Rs.1000 crores of taxpayer's money when the situation just worsens because they just got the wrong people 90% of the times ?



BTW, an informal survey that I carried out shows that most men are indifferent to dowry where as most women consider it as a social ritual which has to followed like the way women follow superstitions. Many even argued emotionally, "see it is all balanced !! People take dowry for sons on one hand and give it to their daughters in the otherhand." I told them about the laws and their response was "who cares.......nobody goes to the police." I was taken aback by the brazen contempt of the ladies to the law of the land. May be, emotional brains to not have any logical structure and that may be the reason that the law does not get into their heads. Then, I remembered what Tulasi Das has said some 7 centuries back "The woman's mind is like a river. If not contained it will go astray." I realised how profoundly true it is. Of course, Feminists will accuse the above as Patriarchy.



The truth is that any house run by a female (where husband is henpecked) never runs well.
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by misuse_dowry_laws » Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:36 pm

Any issue can be given a twist of dowry ......



The chance of a Muslim man getting into false dowry case is about 10 times higher than people of other religion. In case of Muslims, a man can marry again without getting formal divorce. So, when a relationship is strained, the women feel a lot more threatened. So they fire the Dowry Law Bullet to keep the guy and his family on run.





http://web.mid-day.com/news/city/2004/d ... 100298.htm



According to the Bandra police, Dilshad and Anisa were married in January 2002, but had kept the marriage under wraps.



The family said that it was Anisa who used to torture Dilshad and had demanded Rs 50 lakh in alimony, the amount mentioned as meher in the nikahnama, say the police. In June, Dilshad had registered a case against Anisa for torturing him with suicide threats.





http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/new ... s&id=52234



Court restrains police from arresting singer in dowry case:



[India News]: Mumbai, Dec 28 : A local court today restrained police from arresting singer Shabbir Kumar till January five against whom a case for dowry has been registered by his daughter-in-law.



The court, in the interim order, also asked the police to file their say on the anticipatory bail plea filed by the singer.



The son and brother of Kumar were arrested on December 26 by the Bandra police following a complaint lodged by his daughter-in-law Aneesha.



Aneesha lodged a complaint against the singer, his wife Mahita, son Dilshad and cousin Mois Ahmed Sheikh alleging she was being harrased over demand for Rs 25 lakh as dowry. PTI
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by misuse_dowry_laws » Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:52 pm

A guy facing a dowry case whose wife got the police seize his entire houseful of articles in the name of dowry brought by her:



Finally I got the interim custody of the white goods seized form my

house , not even a single item went to her and all the items that she

claims she gave in dowry are to be taken by me ( interim custody)

ordered by the court after furnishing a bond and surety. The past

month was a horrible one.Thanks a ton to D'souza,nridivorce, Ash,

Bharti and others who helped me through this. The Judge did an

excellent job, I will collect the items from the cops and my life has

changed form this day onwards. This will help me in defending the

divorce and maintenance case that she has filed ( due in the last week

of Jan).



Just imagine my life if it has gone against..... anyway the party has

started for me for a life time and mayhem for her. Am taking an off

tomorrow to relax with a couple of my friends.



I thank God and my fellow victims and one and all who helped me

through this, this victory belongs to one and all in the group. May

God help you all.



Thanks again and will now fight till finish.



Rgds,
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by misuse_dowry_laws » Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:05 am

http://www.indianwomenonline.com/womenh ... uelbot.asp



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Sec498A had basically been introduced to prevent the victimisation of women. However increasingly this section is being misused by several women to harass innocent husbands and their relatives. There exist loopholes in the existing law, which are extensively being exploited. It is important to plug these loopholes in order to ensure that the ends of justice are served



About the author

Deepali Chandhoke is a practising Advocate and she is a Partner at Luthra & Luthra law firm..

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by misuse_dowry_laws » Tue Jan 11, 2005 2:06 am

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SPREAD TO SAVE MANY YOUNG INDIAN MEN

by INDIAN_MARRIAGE_DANGER » Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:38 am

We need to LASER SPREAD this DANGER INFORMATION to all MALE INDIANS as fast as possible. :shock:



Indian men are at danger. MARRIAGE LAWS IN INDIA ARE VERY DANGEROUS. IT CAN MAKE MAN TO DEPRESS AND POSSIBLY LOOSE ALL

HIS HARD EARNED MONEY. :(



INDIAN MEN PLEASE.......P L E A S E ..........BECAREFUL ABOUT MARRYING INDIAN WOMAN, PARTICULARLY FROM AN EDUCATED FAMILY

WHO VERY WELL KNOW ABOUT THIS DANGEROUS DRACONIAN LAW 498A SECTION WHICH IS COMMONLY CALLED ANTI-DOWRY LAW.





THIS LAW IS AS SUCH KEEPS THE INDIAN MAN INSIDE JAIL WITHOUT ANY INVESTIGATION. I REPEAT AS PER THIS LAW, NO INVESTIGATION TO JAIL THE PERSON/HIS ENTIRE FAMILY (including grand parents and un-married sisters), JUST BASING A ONE LINE PAPER COMPLAINT FROM HIS WIFE.. :cry:



THIS LAW IS NON-BAILABLE. IF INSINCERE POLICE OFFICERS ARE INVOLVED, THEY MAY PLAY REAL BAD GAME WHICH CAN CAUSE HEAVY HARASSMENT/DISTRESS ON THE WHOLE FAMILY.



PLS. DO NOT RISK INSIDE AN INDIAN MARRIAGE MARRYING INDIAN GIRL. I REQUEST AS YOUNG MEN ARE THE FUTURE OF INDIA

AS THEY GET DISTRESSED BY FALLING INTO THE TRAP...HIGH CHANCES THAT INDIA FURTHER MOVE TOWARDS POOOOOOOOOOR/DISTRESS NATION IN ALL TERMS.



PLS. SPREAD THIS DANGEROUS NEWS TO AS MANY EDUCATED MEN AS POSSIBLE...



ALSO, MEN ORGANIZATION (purush hakk from nasik) mentioned that they would file Public interest litigation to repeal this 498A menace

from Indian society on the basis on Article # 14 of Indian constitution act.



What happen to those IIMS, IITs, Civil services MEN....pls. SHARE YOUR EFFORTS IN SPREADING THIS AMONG AS MANY MEN AS POSSIBLE.



EVEN RESCUING ONE MEN BY READING THIS IS AS HELPFUL AS SAVING AN INDIAN HAPPY FAMILY FROM A UN-NATURAL DISASTER.
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by misuse_dowry_laws » Wed Jan 12, 2005 10:24 pm

No alimony if wife hid crucial facts



http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... 980836.cms



The bench held that even though the law permitted the wife a right to alimony, her conduct prevented the court from granting her the alimony. The judges observed that the woman was "trying to take advantage of her wrong or fraud and was trying to harass the husband by claiming alimony".
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by for_movie_geeks » Thu Jan 13, 2005 11:15 pm

http://www.chitraloka.com/sections/scoo ... arjun.html





The saga of gentleman Arjun runs from perfume to police station. Actress Swarnamalya (of TV serials in Tamil, ‘Engal Anna’ and Kannada film ‘Geeya Geeya’ heroine) sipped the innocence and luxury of Arjun and finally locked him in police station on a false dowry case. Thanks to Swarnamalya’s parents – parents of this kind live on this earth there is no need of a hell. ........

........



After marriage on June 30 2002 everything was good for 13 months. The luxury and comfort I maintained in California – where I worked as Senior Financial Analyst on a monthly salary of $9500 at Fresh Express Fresh Foods bit the lazybones – parents of Swarnamalya.



I got my wife Swarnamalya ‘SKODA’ car of Rs.12 lakhs she told me ‘PODA” (go). Thanks to her parents. The quarrel of parents always used to bring an impact on our married life in America.
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Feminizi influence of Media and Society on abuse of boys

by Media » Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:24 pm

Biased Media



http://www.torontofreepress.com/2004/media111204.htm



Earlier this week, a 29-year-old Connecticut woman, Tammy Imre was charged with one count each of sexual assault and risk of injury to a minor.

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Some in the mainline media saw no need to report the story of the sexual abuse of such a young boy in the same way that they would have reported alleged sexual assaults by a 29-year-old man on an 8-year-old girl. The most egregious was the New York Post. The Post’s headline read, "CRADLE ROBBER — GAL WHO SEDUCED BOY, 8". There is no doubt that the newspaper would not have described an alleged male who assaulted a young girl as a "cradle robber"; nor would they have used an equivalent of the word "gal" to describe him. And there is an equally unlikely chance that the act of getting the child to have sex with him would be referred to as "seduction". The New York Post obviously thinks that a sexual assault committed by an attractive blonde woman in her 20s upon a very young boy is cute.
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by womensfreedom » Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:26 am

http://www.womensfreedom.org/artic862.htm



The other component of domestic violence against men that few people seem to be aware of is the method with which women usually gain the upper hand in violent encounters. As much of the research points out, women are often able to neutralize men's greater strength, or at times even dominate them, by using a weapon. But after digesting the accounts of numerous male victims, I have concluded that it is not physical weapons that give women the upper hand. What puts women in a position to cause serious injury is the weapon that all good generals throughout history have knows to be the most effective - the element of surprise. In countless cases where men were seriously injured, the abuser used surprise as her chief weapon. One such victim appeared on an Oprah Winfrey telecast devoted to domestic violence against men. He reported that, in one instance, he was not aware his wife was behind him as he started down the stairs of their home. She gave him a good shove causing him to tumble down the steps; he ended up with a concussion.
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by BBC_news » Sat Jan 15, 2005 1:36 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/insideldn/i ... stic.shtml



Recent research indicates that men are as just as likely to be on the receiving end of domestic abuse as women.



George says: "One young man, who'd been married two weeks, had hot fat poured on his lap for changing the channel."



Despite his size and martial arts expertise, George was also a victim of domestic abuse.



George says: "She came upstairs carrying this large square of half inch ply wood. She brought the edge of it down on my head."



George was physically and verbally abused. Unfortunately, he is not alone.
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by RebirthOf_DowryVictim » Sat Jan 15, 2005 9:39 pm

Etah dowry death ‘victim’ comes alive



http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story ... t_id=61245



ETAH (UP), DECEMBER 20: It’s a story right out of the potboiler Andhaa Kanoon. A married woman disappears with her paramour and plots a conspiracy with her father to get her husband imprisoned in a case of dowry death. Five years later, Sushila resurfaces and her husband, Brajesh Kumar, is now threatening to kill her.



The UP police had put Kumar, a factory owner in Noida, and his mother behind bars for 14 months and submitted a chargesheet in court within 22 days of the FIR being filed without even tracing the body. The twist in the tale was that the case rested on the testimony of two witnesses — close relatives of the ‘dead’ woman. Kumar paid Rs 1 lakh to the woman’s father to get the witnesses to turn hostile and the court acquitted him and his mother in the ‘murder’ for lack of evidence.



Police say that Sushila claims to have run off with a truck driver and bore him two children. A case of providing wrong information has been registered and Gendalal has been arrested.



‘‘We have now got to arrange for the security of the woman. Her husband might bump her off,’’ said Senior Superintendent of Police (Etah) Anand Swaroop. It been a major embarrassment for the police, he concedes. ‘‘There was a fundamental error on the part of the police in the investigation. We should have been more careful with the witnesses as well before arresting innocent persons.’’



Kumar and Sushila were married for only three years when the 20-year-old woman disappeared from Kanchangari village in Etah while he was away. On November 23, Sushila’s father Gendalal told the Etah police that his daughter has been murdered and her body disposed of in the river.



The same day, an FIR was lodged under Sections 498A (dowry harassment), 304A (dowry death) and 201 (destruction of evidence). The FIR claimed Sushila was being harassed for a gold necklace and a cow as dowry.



Two men, Ram Niwas and Mahavir came forward to say that they saw the body being dumped into in the river. The police arrested Brajesh and his 65-year-old mother Brahma Devi and on December 15, a chargesheet was also submitted in court. The bail applications of both mother and son were dismissed in district and sessions court; finally Brahma Devi got bail from the High Court after spending four months in jail.
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by india_info » Sun Jan 16, 2005 11:20 pm

http://news.indiainfo.com/publicopinion/dowry.html



and



http://news.indiainfo.com/2003/08/13/13dowry.html



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Harassment/Blackmail by girls in dowry cases

Wednesday, August 13 2003 17:21 Hrs (IST)





It is high time for the Supreme Court to save India by looking into the growing menace of girls and her parents misusing the dowry laws to report to police and/or make false accusations/BLACKMAIL the boys & his family and thus harass husbands and his old parents mentally and by demanding huge sums of money.



Such girls have no respects for the elders and can even fool the law/police/courts by shedding false tears and making false reports, because the law will accept whatever they say blindfolded.



How can the law proceed under section 498a etc even before proper enquiry? This is really disgusting because evidence is the basis of proceeding in any reported crime.



Without looking deeply is exposing the society to a serious virus, which will paralyse the whole society and will be a cause of making India a land of culprits.



This will make men stay away from marriages. How will the India grow without the new generations. These loopholes in the law can even make people adopt girls and use them to marry boys and then break off the marriage within 1 day to 6 months and then forcing / harassing / extort huge sums of money from husbands who sincerely looked for a trust worthy wife.



Such people are worse then the women who operate from bro***** as they will then work from within the Indian family system. I sincerely hope that the lawmakers will look into this very seriously. There are many such cases as reported on http://indiafamily.net or http://indiafamily.net/talk/messages/12 ... 1060610216 and many other web sites.



Surprisingly the most powerful internet search engine http://www.google.com comes out with only Indian sites which talk about such ghastly acts done by girls to their husbands.



Shame on the law enforcers !!!



It is time for a revolution now!!! Indian girls are not what they were. Guys like me had great regards for girls & women but I am sorry to say that with due respect and regards to really good girls/women, I am losing the respect and regards which I once used to have. The day is not far when more and more men will be bent upon to form a similar opinion.
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Letter to a Bureacrat

by Letter_to_minister_498A_menace » Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:58 am

Dear Sir,

Straight facts on the sec. 498A. misusage.



a)Throughout the world domestic issues are solved by civil laws, only India is having this criminal law in it.



b)Poor or rural woman or their husbands don't even know about this law(70%) indian population and can't use this law to control their husband or stopping husband performing cruel acts on their wifes.



c)Indian Educated woman are changed a lot unlike decades back...very harming in nature and selfish inside marriages and blackmailing husbands to the extent of having following REALITY suicide rates in India (Indiastat.com)



Suicide rates in India:

National Suicide rate is: 11 people per 100,000



For males in the age group of 30 to 44, the Suicide rate is a whopping 508 per 100,000 persons; for women it is 220. The Suicide rates among men in the age group of 45 to 59 is a shocking 1,812 per 100,000 persons and among women, nearly 550. So much more people are dying due to SOWRY harassment than the DOWRY harassment.

However, among divorced males the suicide rate is 164 per 100,000 persons, but even in this class, among females the rate is only 63 per 100,000. While the suicide rate for separated men is about 167, for females it is only 41 per 100,000 persons.



d) Above statistics are surprising but is reality. REASON FOR DOWRY WORD spread everywhere and became notorious in Indian system is due to spread by more than 60 Women Organizations in India for the decades and Culturally India is very inclined/supportive to women and is the advantage taken by these organizations.



e) Compare western males to Indian Males, see their Physical Health look up difference..heavy bellies..tired harworking....burdened...stressed...balded..Western men look STRONG heavily fit, because of the criteria and laws men follow.



f) Animals got Rights, Women got Rights .Men protect India by fighting war..but he doesn't have Rights/laws to protect himself inside marriage.



g) Introduce Civil laws inside the marriages and share property equally between hubby/wife providing fastest divorces if they are incompatible rather suffering men with this 498A menace.



h)USA state Dept. already warning Foreigners at : http://travel.state.gov/travel/india.html

at "DOWRY/VISA DEMANDS" section not to travel for marriage to India clearly to avoid 498A.



"DOWRY/VISA DEMANDS: A number of U.S. citizen men who have come to India to marry Indian nationals have been arrested and charged with crimes related to dowry extraction. Many of the charges stem from the U.S. citizen's inability to provide an immigrant visa for his prospective spouse to travel immediately to the United States. The courts sometimes order the U.S. citizen to pay large sums of money to his spouse in exchange for the dismissal of charges. The courts normally confiscate the American's passport, and he must remain in India until the case has been settled. There are also cases of U.S. citizen women whose families force them against their will into marriages to Indian nationals."



k) I hear lot of hatredness towards India by NRIs who are facing this 498A menace (some even lost their parents due to mental harassments by police/judiciary dealings), I doubt whether they turn back to help India anytime in future.





ACCORDING TO Section 498A is NON-BAILABLE, NON-COMPOUNDABLE, NON-COGNIZABLE(No investigation to arrest) AND MEMBERS OF THE HUSBANDS FAMILY (including grand parents/unmarried sisters as well)

PLACED INSIDE JAIL.



Bieng Part of a men's group I hear 2 police vans stop infront of Husband's home and all are usually taken into custody and atleast min. 4-6 are placed behind bars and is happening practically throught India...about 16000Cases Delhi, 8000 Bangalore, 14000 Bombay etc.,



Pls. protect middle class India before Indian men losing complete hopes in our System.



Thanks in advance.

Srivastava.

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by CtrlAltDel » Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:30 am

so what hapnd to this letter?
wtf? i no longer care if my posts hurt yr feelings :roll:
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Tue Jan 18, 2005 8:47 am

For males in the age group of 30 to 44, the Suicide rate is a whopping 508 per 100,000 persons; for women it is 220. The Suicide rates among men in the age group of 45 to 59 is a shocking 1,812 per 100,000 persons and among women, nearly 550. So much more people are dying due to SOWRY harassment than the DOWRY harassment.
However, among divorced males the suicide rate is 164 per 100,000 persons, but even in this class, among females the rate is only 63 per 100,000. While the suicide rate for separated men is about 167, for females it is only 41 per 100,000 persons.




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by DQ » Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:29 am

Mayavi Morpheus wrote:
For males in the age group of 30 to 44, the Suicide rate is a whopping 508 per 100,000 persons; for women it is 220. The Suicide rates among men in the age group of 45 to 59 is a shocking 1,812 per 100,000 persons and among women, nearly 550. So much more people are dying due to SOWRY harassment than the DOWRY harassment.
However, among divorced males the suicide rate is 164 per 100,000 persons, but even in this class, among females the rate is only 63 per 100,000. While the suicide rate for separated men is about 167, for females it is only 41 per 100,000 persons.


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by misuse_dowry_laws » Fri Jan 21, 2005 4:54 pm

Feminism is a Western Disease and So does Dowry System





Watch Movie "My Big Fat Greek Wedding", the father (of Portokalos family) gives the groom (Ian Miller) documents of a house and the groom exclaims "Oh my God, they wrote us a house". Is it dowry or Streedhan ? May be you will call it streedhan. In that case, the father should have done it offline (off the wedding dinner) or he would have handed it over to his daughter and not son-in-law.



Read what anciant history of Greece tells about India during 300-100B.C. Some of these are documented by Meghasthenes.



http://www.shsu.edu/~his_ncp/Indica.html



17. The Indians are spare in body and tall and much lighter than other men. Most of the Indians ride camels, horses, and asses, and those who are well off, elephants. For among the Indians royal personages ride on elephants. Next to this in honour is the four-horsed chariot, third camels. It is no honour to ride on horseback. Their women who are very chaste and would not go astray for any other reward, on the receipt of an elephant have intercourse with the donor. The Indians do not think it disgraceful for them to prostitute themselves for an elephant, and to the women it even seems an honour that their beauty should appear equal in value to an elephant. They marry, neither giving or receiving any dowry, but the fathers bring forward the girls who are of marriageable age and station them in a public place for the man who wins the prize for wrestling, boxing or running, or who has been adjudged winner in any manly contest, to make his choice. The Indians are bread-eaters and agriculturalists, except those who live in the mountains. These live upon the flesh of wild animals.
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