Watch out....else one day men have to fight for Rights !!

[dq]

In their suicide note they said they were taking the extreme step ``due to the false complaint of dowry demand.''

Following a petition from Mr. Vignesh, the High Court directed the police to alter the case into Section 306 IPC.

The anticipatory bail was preferred by Ms. Sangeetha, her father Balakrishnan, and brothers, Iyyappan and Selvaraj following the alteration of charges.

Suicide note as dying declaration


Mr. Justice Rajan, holding that the conduct of Ms. Sangeetha and others was ``proximate to the death of the parents of Mr. Vignesh,'' said, ``prima facie, the suicide note left behind by the parents of Mr. Vignesh, can be treated as a dying declaration.

It appears that they committed suicide only due to the allegation made against them by Ms. Sangeetha that they demanded dowry.

WHAT is the outcome of this case.



Has it been proven beyond doubt that Dowry was not taken ?

Did they commit suicide because the allegation was false or because it hurt their ego that a lady has pulled them to court / police. Ek mamuli si ladki !!!

[DQ]

This will nail you he he he he he he he



Another right being eroded, police checks before getting married. Broke a traffic signal, not fit for marriage. He he he eh



“Before selecting a match to your girls, first probe the groom’s criminal antecedents at the neighbourhood police station so as to prevent them from becoming victims,” Anantapur SP R Praveen Kumar urged people here.

[misuse_dowry_laws]

Hello DQ,



I completely agree with you that " The guy who takes dowry has not right to be called a human."



Here are SOME TRUE FACTS.



90% of the Dowry Cases Filed in India are False. ( I can give you the full details if you want).



The real victims of dowry do not go to police or justice system unless the woman is dead. Where as a whole bunch of manipulative women (married to principled guys without dowry) and their parents have hijacked a well intended law. They overload the already sluggish justice system. They use the law to settle personal vendettas at the expense of Tax Payers Money. The cases go on for 4 to 8 years.



I and other people who work against misuse of law (any law) do work against the practice of dowry. Just like you we also argue, the law has to be very stringent only if the guy is convicted. Till then, he and his family be treated as innocent. At the same time, we also want a deterant for women who file false cases wasting court time (and taxpayers money) which could have been used in genuine cases.



I am not alone preaching here. Our statistics show, following:



1) The more principled, equality oriented the guy is, the more is his chance of getting into a false dowry case. Because in India, humility and being principled is considered as a weakness.



2) The more selfish a guy and his parents are the lesser their chance of getting into any litigation. Because, they just start a rein of terror from the day one.....



Do not say that the cases, I quote are one in Million. There are an estimated 50,000 false dowry cases registered in India every year. The real dowry cases are not just allowed to be filed given the corrupt system that we have got. So, whats the point in having laws when there are not just implemented at grassroot level.



Prevention is Better than Cure. Prevent dowry at the time of marriage itself. Make Marriage registration compulsary and the list of gifts exchanged must be signed by both parties.



Victimisation of Innocent Humans will not eradicate Victimisation of Women.



With one extreme one can not correct other extreme.



People who denigrate women are no way different from people who dengrate men. They are the same people who just change their party. They are just interested in denigration of innocents and extremism. Today, they denigrate women and tomorrow they denigrate men and may be day after they will again denigrate women.



What is needed is middle path.



Dowry system will never go just with some armchair laws, unless the parents start educating girls, making them independent and directly refuse to give a single penny as dowry.


At present, a guy and his family (including unmarried sisters and 80 year old grandparents) behind bars with Warrents issued within few minutes of a woman filing a dowry demand case. This happens without any Investigation. Even in general Murder cases, people are getting arrested after police do some investigation.

[akhilis2cool]

good. then why dont u file a PIL in the supreme court. may b u'll become immortal in the history of India!



but beware u mite attract the ire of the opp. sex!

[misuse_dowry_laws]

Well,



The issue of Misuse of Dowry Laws is very well established. In fact, the most of the judges themselves do not like it when they have to work on 90% bogus cases when genuine cases are not given priority and many times do not even reach upto the court.



Things are at much advanced stage than Public-Interest-Litigation (PIL). The former V.S. Malimath (Chairman, Committee on Reforms of the Criminal Justice System, and former Chief Justice of the Karnataka and Kerala High Courts, a member of national human rights commision ) had submited the Criminal Law Reforms to the Goverment a couple of years back. This report tries to bring balance to some of the existing laws. Laws like adultery are totally biased against men. The report recommends the dowry law 498a to be made Bailable and Compoundable. The present Rajya Sabha is working on a couple of amendments and is making the dowry law Compoundable.





http://www.pucl.org/Topics/Law/2003/mal ... ations.htm



16. Offences Against Women

There are several shortcomings or aberrations in dealing with the offences against women which need to be addressed. The Committee feels that a man who marries a second wife during the subsistence of the first wife should not escape his liability to maintain his second wife under Section 125 of the Code on the grounds that the second marriage is neither lawful or valid.



As a man can be punished under Section 497 of the IPC for adultery, for having sexual intercourse with a wife of another man, it stands to reason that wife should likewise be punished if she has intercourse with another married man.



There is a general complain that Section 498A of the IPC regarding cruelty by the husband or his relatives is subjected to gross misuse and many times operates against the interest of the wife herself. This offence is non-bailable and non-compoundable. Hence husband and other members of the family are arrested and can be behind the bars which may result in husband losing his job. Even if the wife is willing to condone and forgive the lapse of the husband and live in matrimony, this provision comes in the way of spouses returning to the matrimonial home. This hardship can be avoided by making the offence bailable and compoundable.

[Truth]

1) Stop Feminazies (Militant Feminists) from Male Bashing.

2) Do not take dowry. List on stamp paper the gifts exchanged during marriage and both parties must sign it.

3) If the bride's father forces you in taking dowry, tell him to put it in the wife's name (only her name, your name must not be there).

4) Do not give in to monetary/material(car, house etc.) demands by wife. You decide how to manage your money. Demands by wife or her parents are known as SOWRY Harassment. There are no laws in this country which can protect a man and his family from SOWRY Harassment.

In India, the Suicide rate for Men increases 50% after marriage.

Contact the helpline of sangyabalya 080-56969850 if you face demands(monetary or otherwise),threats, harassment by wife or her relatives. or write to victimsof498a@rediffmail.com to seek help.

http://www.sangyabalya.org

I am just a very new junior member. Yet, I have counselled more than 20 battered men in last 2 months.

[misuse_dowry_laws]

Principled people, techies, NRIs have a greater chance of getting into false dowry cases.



If you have not taken dowry, that does not mean you will escape the dreaded POTA for Men (called 489a). Because 90% cases are false.



How to estimate your chance of getting into a false case:



The probability of getting "498a"ed is more if:



1) One or both parents of the wife have big EGOs and they have vindictive behaviour.



2) One or both parents of the wife have big attachment for welfare of daughter and interfere in your married life every now and then.



3) Wife's parents have high expectations which you can not meet.



4) You have a serious problem with wife's parents even if your wife and you are very nice to each other.



5) If one or more of your wife's relatives are in legal profession, police or in politics.





You must be aware of the fact that now-a-days many parents of girl expect the guy to get separated from his parents, set up a separate house and get separated from other relatives as well.



In AP, many parents expect a high salaried guy who can behave like a Ghar Jamai.

[misuse_dowry_laws]

http://telegraphindia.com/1030924/asp/c ... 394314.asp





- Acquitted of wife’s accidental death, man questions arrest clause



TAPAS GHOSH

“Sir, tell me, how do I get back my lost years, my dignity and my daughter, who has been taken away from me? I also seek your help in getting my daughter back” — a plaintive cry to the chief minister of Bengal from a father, a widower and a man labelled guilty until proven innocent,

.........................read on......

[misuse_dowry_laws]

To get all the facts about How Militant Feminists (Feminazies) Distort Statistics and Misrepresent truth, read



"Who Stole Feminism" by Christiana Sommers.



Indian Feminazies are of course following the same path their counterparts followed in West. Unfortunately, India never had patriarchy. We always had matriarchry.



We called Mother earth.



We call Jai Mata Di, not jai pita Di.



We call our country the motherland not father land (like many useless western countries).



In West, due to biased laws related to marriage, men go for conditional Live-In relationships in whole life than getting married. Some 50% people just do not get married. It proves that the actions of Feminists in West have been completely misfired because "One social Evil can not be solved by creating another social evil." The sufferings of genuine humans is still there.



A female chauvinist is no way different from a male chauvinist.



The people who indulged in Female bashing and the people who indulge in Male Bashing are essentially have the same attitude problem in the kernel. They both have the same Gothra. Both are mentally corrupt, only their Parties are different.



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Stop Dowry, Also Stop Misuse of Dowry Laws because the real victims get delayed justice due to bogus cases.

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[misuse_dowry_laws]

Sunday, November 28, 2004 (New Delhi):





A gardener at the Rashtrapati Bhawan has been accused of trying to commit suicide along with five members of his family.



Nannu Ram and his family members swallowed pesticide on Saturday night in an attempt to kill themselves. The gardener's one-and-a-half year old grandson was also given the poison.



"We had no idea. This morning when no one was opening the door, we knocked and then realised they had all taken poison," said a worker at the Rashtrapati Bhawan.



Officials at Rashtrapati Bhawan say the family was under tremendous pressure after Nannu Ram's daughter-in-law killed herself last week.

Her family insisted it was a dowry killing and the police was investigating the case.



"She died on November 24. Inquest on dowry allegations made them do this," said S M Khan, PRO, Rashtrapati Bhawan.



But the police aren't clear why the entire family consumed poison.



Doctors say the family is out of danger and the police are waiting for Nannu Ram to get back on his feet so that the real story behind the attempted suicide becomes clearer.

[Myth_of_Male_Power]

Please read the bestseller


The Myth of Male Power by Warren Pharel.



Pharel listened and worked for women rights activities for many years and then it dawned to him where the things are going wrong with Feminism.

[DQ]

Reading of this reminds me of.



MYTH and his MYTHs about oppression.



A strong story of an individual, who had a disturbed marriage, couldn't be man enough to live with a woman and has all these illussions about oppression.

[Truth]

Men who have Love marriages do not take dowry.



Men who have no mothers and no sisters, do not take dowry.



So, one can guess where the cause is.



Women who got abused by their mother-in-laws, seek solace by abusing their daughter-in-laws. Dowry is one of the mediums and the man is beauitifully used in many occasions.



The Man is just the symptom, the women are the cause due to their unprincipled materialistic attitudes and emotional minds.



We know, women carry the genes for many diseases (eg. color blindness), but these happen only to men. Same way, women carry the DOWRY GENE in them and sustain dowry giving and taking. Feminists make the man pay for the problem. So men(fathers) pay the dowry and also get the burnt of law. The women involved mostly go scot free as they get natural sympathy from law.



As the pressure(law) is applied at wrong side, the root of problem remains the same. So in spite of all the laws, the dowry problem is not getting cured.



So female overpowerment will in fact increase the dowry and domestic violence problem.



It will not be cured even if men are hanged after conviction for dowry demand.

[Jaan]

Jesus! Yallah! Rama! *invoking all known and unknown gods and spirits*



What is your problem against women? Geez!



Jaan

[Der Schakal]

Jesus! Yallah! Rama! *invoking all known and unknown gods and spirits*

What is your problem against women? Geez!

Jaan

Yeah I wanted to ask the same thing.

But some of this points are true.We had a teacher when I was in 12th(2 yrs ago) and she was telling us that she will go to a police station and charge a sexual harrasment case on all of us.... She was like:"My uncle is on the best lawyer in the city,I can go to any police station and file a case on you guys". She didnt know that at that time my uncle was the DGP.

[DQ]

Jesus! Yallah! Rama! *invoking all known and unknown gods and spirits*

What is your problem against women? Geez!

Jaan

Yeah I wanted to ask the same thing.
But some of this points are true.We had a teacher when I was in 12th(2 yrs ago) and she was telling us that she will go to a police station and charge a sexual harrasment case on all of us.... She was like:"My uncle is on the best lawyer in the city,I can go to any police station and file a case on you guys". She didnt know that at that time my uncle was the DGP.

Maybe she was right there dude !!!



God knows what lewd views and comments you guys had... year 12 bhari jawaani. And with a DGP uncle you may have been the ......ring leader.

[Der Schakal]

Jesus! Yallah! Rama! *invoking all known and unknown gods and spirits*

What is your problem against women? Geez!

Jaan

Yeah I wanted to ask the same thing.
But some of this points are true.We had a teacher when I was in 12th(2 yrs ago) and she was telling us that she will go to a police station and charge a sexual harrasment case on all of us.... She was like:"My uncle is on the best lawyer in the city,I can go to any police station and file a case on you guys". She didnt know that at that time my uncle was the DGP.

Maybe she was right there dude !!!

God knows what lewd views and comments you guys had... year 12 bhari jawaani. And with a DGP uncle you may have been the ......ring leader.

No we did nothing.There was nothing to do,she was the most ugliest person(Fat,weird afro(seriously),horrible looking) I have ever met.And I never use my uncles name.Never teased a girl,never fantasized a teacher ,never got into fights.We just used to stand in our college corridor and talk.Suddenly she called us inside and started making weird accusations.



And finally there was no "ringleader"

[DQ]

Jesus! Yallah! Rama! *invoking all known and unknown gods and spirits*

What is your problem against women? Geez!

Jaan

Yeah I wanted to ask the same thing.
But some of this points are true.We had a teacher when I was in 12th(2 yrs ago) and she was telling us that she will go to a police station and charge a sexual harrasment case on all of us.... She was like:"My uncle is on the best lawyer in the city,I can go to any police station and file a case on you guys". She didnt know that at that time my uncle was the DGP.

Maybe she was right there dude !!!

God knows what lewd views and comments you guys had... year 12 bhari jawaani. And with a DGP uncle you may have been the ......ring leader.

No we did nothing.There was nothing to do,she was the most ugliest person(Fat,weird afro(seriously),horrible looking) I have ever met.And I never use my uncles name.Never teased a girl,never fantasized a teacher ,never got into fights.We just used to stand in our college corridor and talk.Suddenly she called us inside and started making weird accusations.

And finally there was no "ringleader"

Hmm you are cleared!!!



Maybe there was some shady character who passed a lewd glance or something!!!



She may have reacted that way.



Or maybe it was like our biology teacher in year 7.



End of year 7 you had the "Human Reproduction System Class"



Following stories of over 4 batches I cam to know of her modus operandi.



She used to walk into class.



Turn to the board write "Human Reproduction System Class"

Turn back, the first gut she caught giggling or even smiling would be pulled up smacked left right and made to sand during the full class.



Great way. Not even a skirmish would be heard in that class.



So.....The point is Modus operandi. Maybe that was her way to keep that occasional nerd in check.

[CtrlAltDel]

There was nothing to do,she was the most ugliest person(Fat,weird afro(seriously),horrible looking) I have ever met.And I never use my uncles name.Never teased a girl,never fantasized a teacher ,never got into fights.We just used to stand in our college corridor and talk.Suddenly she called us inside and started making weird accusations.

mayebe she was living out her secret fantasy of being sexually harrassed by a bunch of her students...

[Who_is_Rama]

About Gods....



"Jesus! Yallah! Rama! "


Ask any Feminazi or for that matter any Feminist about Rama and you will get the answer "He is a Male Chauvinist" who deserted his pregnant wife. That too he did not pay any alimony or maintenance for the wife or for the kids. Please read the book "Sita's Curse."



Remember the movie "Fire" with Nandita Das and Shabana Azmi and guess what were their names...... Radha and Sita.



I do not question the outcome of the movie. The right to Liberty is the fundamental right in this country and that includes all genders.



All Feminists now a days refer to SITA.



If Rama time travels to India today, he would be behind bars just the way Sankaracharya is inside.



Contrast Rama with his father Dasaratha.



Dasaratha financed, fed and protected not one, but 3 wives.



The woman ie. Kaikeyi whom he loved most stabbed him in the back and which resulted in his death. But Feminists give example of SITA and never mention Kaikeyi. Because, a Man(father Dasarath) is disposable. I work to correct statistics which Feminazies present.



More women suffer from False dowry cases, than Men. Who will marry a girl who has spent 2 days in jail when her brother's wife puts a false complaint. Walk to any friendly lawyer and just how much percent of cases are false.



3 times more men commit suicide than women. The life expectency of men is lower that women in spite of the so called brain washed facts that Women are constantly tortured by men since ages.

[DQ]

About Gods....

All Feminists now a days refer to SITA.

If Rama time travels to India today, he would be behind bars just the way Sankaracharya is inside.

BLASPHEMY !!!!



Ise Modi YA Advani ko refer karo!!!!



Ek to Rama jo jail karega doosra Rama ko Shankaraharya se Kampare!!!!



BLASPHEMY !!!!

[Misuse_dowry_laws_498a]

Follow this big article in Newspaper Statesman about misuse of laws by willful women and the advice given to the women by women themselves.



http://thestatesman.net/page.arcview.ph ... &usrsess=1



.......

While filing a case under Section 498A, a woman must also consider the following:



* Whether the promises made earlier have really been broken;



* If it is some in-law adjustment that she might construe as mental torture;



* Whether she respects her in-laws as much as she expects her husband to respect her parents;



* Whether her’s isn’t a matter of sheer jealousy, selfishness, inconsideration and impatience;



* Whether “torture” springs from a momentary explosion of emotions or amounts to pre-meditated action;



* Whether her eagerness to find happiness or establish her rights in her in-laws’ home isn’t costing others their rights; and



* If her problems aren’t the result of differences of opinions and petty quarrels instead of actual criminal intent.

[wife_kills_Man_for_dowry]

Follow the link:



http://thestatesman.net/page.arcview.ph ... &usrsess=1



Role reversal: Wife kills man for dowry!



KENDRAPARA, Dec. 13. — In a break from practice, a man from Taneipada village under Kendrapara district’s Rajkanika police station limits alleged that his son was killed by his spouse and in-laws on dowry-related grounds.

.......

The petition maintained that Duryodhan Behera married to Ms Sumitra Nayak in May 2001 had left the native village a year after the marriage and resided at his in-laws’ house in Matia village under Jagulaipada gram panchayat.

Behera was physically tortured by his spouse and in-laws as he did not agree to seek monetary assistance from his father. The victim also refused to sell off his share of property. Later the accused persons, including the spouse and her father Behera on 26 October, the petition alleged. — SNS

[CtrlAltDel]

Duryodhan Behera

his dad named him THAT????

[Men's Rights]

Women Have rights.



Children have rights.



Even Animals have rights.




For the only Disposable entities called Men, even talking about their day to day difficulties is a SIN. Forget about the rights.



Only 20% of the people in India feed remaining 80%.



This 20% is mostly men.

Remaining 80% is primarily made of women, children, elderly parents and the unemployed.