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Extra ordinary
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Worth watching
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Good
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Rang De Basanti......

by Peter Camenzind » Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:08 am

Rang De Basanti..

Aaaaah....

After a long time here came a really damn good movie that has patriotism well explained to the contemporary indian youth.



Since my college days i was wondering... At sometimes when I think abt indian politics and corruption, my take was like .. whoever try to turn the System to end corruption etc, either there will be THE END to him soon or the he himself will get corrupted, untill unless some force like that has shown in the film RAMANA, (TAGORE in telugu) will arise...infact that wud be hardly possible.



But After watching the movie I sensed something that i haven't sensed before.. as the movie interplays between the youth of the past( the young revolutionaries of 1930's, like Bhagat singh, Durga bhai, Chandrasekhar Azad, Ramprasad Bismil and Ashfaque Uttah) and the youth of today by making them see their own images in another mirror with a fabulous screenplay.



In this film these two worlds collide when a bunch of youngsters are asked to play above mentioned characters in a film made by a British film maker Sue( Alice Patten ) ( Infact the director has also shown why this british film maker has that much interest in shooting our young historic revolutionaries with a good reason behind it).



There's DJ, alias Daljeet( Aamir Khan) a loud over-the-top extrovert who also hides the insecurities about facing the real world outside the university. ....Karan Singhania( Siddharth ) has been born to rich parents, can't communicate with his industrialist father and thinks there's life migrating abroad......Aslam(Kunal Kapoor) comes from an orthodox family which opposes his Hindu friends and laidback lifestyle, even as he feels suffocated by their mentality.....Sukhi(Sharman Joshi) has only one wish in life, that he shouldn't die a virgin.....and the last .... Flt Lt Ajay Rathod ( Madhavan) is the only one who truly believes in the spirit of India and is engaged to the only girl in the group, Sonia( Soha Ali Khan).



There's the engaging banter, the playfulness, the jokes. THere's the initial refusal to play the roles, teh lack of identification with freedom fighters, the open questioning as to why anyone shud give his life for the nation. Then slowly, as the role-playing takes over, past and present come together in harmony and completely alter lives of the young. They become one in spirit with their characters. The change in mindset, values and perspectives is slow but sure and steady.



The second half moves to the cause which fires the group's new found idealism and zeal. and quite realistically, its not a larger social or political issue that motivates them but something right in theier own backyard. It's when their own personal world gets disturbed that they take to the streets.



In this movie the viewer will come to know that the Patriotism is not meaningless, nor blind acceptence of everything 'Indian'.



AR Rehman's sizzling music rocks throughout the movie.

Its a personal triump for Aamir also. In fact Aamir, who has always been rumored to steal the best lines and scenes from right under teh noses fo his co-stars is totally at ease being one of the gruop. He has given the role that best suites for the person at the age of 30.(In film the character is a pass out from teh delhi university before 5 years and still staying in campus and that justifies his age diference with his friends in the group.)His method acting was at his best when he cries inconsolably for a lost friend. THere is a food stuck in his mouth, there's grief, the inability to be articulate, yet also need to unburden himself. He manages to convey it all effortlessly.



As i have alreay seen the movie 2 times and for teh third time i went to HUMA ADLABs here in mumbai.... all 3 shows got reserved and house full...i came here to put the review of the movie...



My rating is 4 out of 5 ... and is "EXCELLENT" so wht abt u ppl.... :)
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by gyanster » Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:02 pm

Saw the movie today. Absolutely wonderful. The comedy, the story, the acting are simply superb. I have not seen anything quite like this beffore.

It was house full in Melbourne as well, with many people having to go back home.

I would give it 4.5/5 .
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by smack » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:22 am

gyanster wrote:Saw the movie today. Absolutely wonderful. The comedy, the story, the acting are simply superb. I have not seen anything quite like this beffore.
It was house full in Melbourne as well, with many people having to go back home.
I would give it 4.5/5 .




Wow, is it that good??



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by vivek » Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:38 pm

I can now vouch for the fact that i have seen the best film made by Bollywood (or the Indian Film Industry). No its not Rang De Basanti, but Swades. The more i watch such make believe hyper active patriotism, the more i like Swades.



Rang De.. is garbage.



There is no sense in it. Whatsoever. The movie (as claimed and rated by media) does not make you think. The post movie hangover is so bad that you would rather have a drink to digest the fact of being cheated.



No song is picturised completely, there is no need to finish a song anyways, but the treatment is screwed up. Bhagat Singh, C azaad were people with principles and a mission - to fight for the freedom of the nation. As against, our beer freaks who decide to kill a minister based on A report from A TV channel. How lame is that?Besides, comparing their intent of revenge Vis-a-vis motive of freedom fighters is lousy. Today's india has the wherewithal to deal with such corrupt politicians in a just manner and there are certainly better means to deal with it, not a ridiculous fashion in which these duds reacted. No all politicians are corrupt. In fact, had so many politicians were corrupt, India would have collapsed.



It would have been safer to have a climax similar to Yuva ( which now seems like an awesome film). The movie really begins on the second half of the second half and starts spitting on your face with some kind of logic that only the stonned and/or the drunk can interpret.

Its a joke played on the Indian militia. No indian force reacts in such a aggressive fashion as depicted.Even if i choose not to delve into too much logic, the movie fails to stand even on a superficial layer.



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by akhilis2cool » Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:17 pm

vivek wrote:Rang De.. is garbage.

There is no sense in it. Whatsoever. The movie (as claimed and rated by media) does not make you think. The post movie hangover is so bad that you would rather have a drink to digest the fact of being cheated.

Bhagat Singh, C azaad were people with principles and a mission - to fight for the freedom of the nation. As against, our beer freaks who decide to kill a minister based on A report from A TV channel. How lame is that?

I beg to differ. AFAIK the movie shows how a combination of various factors leads to the 5 young men behaving/reacting the way they do. The movie does'nt support their way of doing things though. The tv report u are talking abt. is actually a talk show where the minister is shown speaking on TV, how else do u expect ppl. to know abt a minister and his ilk if not thru the media?

vivek wrote:Besides, comparing their intent of revenge Vis-a-vis motive of freedom fighters is lousy. Today's india has the wherewithal to deal with such corrupt politicians in a just manner and there are certainly better means to deal with it, not a ridiculous fashion in which these duds reacted. No all politicians are corrupt.
really? though the system is in place, there hardly seem to b any corrupt politicians in jails, why do u think that is happening? anyway thats a diferent issue.

vivek wrote: The movie really begins on the second half of the second half and starts spitting on your face with some kind of logic that only the stonned and/or the drunk can interpret.
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vivek wrote:Its a joke played on the Indian militia. No indian force reacts in such a aggressive fashion as depicted.Even if i choose not to delve into too much logic, the movie fails to stand even on a superficial layer.
arent they supposed to follow the orders they are given? isn't it possible tht they were manipulated by the politiko's themselves?
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by akhilis2cool » Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:20 pm

vivek wrote:Rang De.. is garbage.

There is no sense in it. Whatsoever. The movie (as claimed and rated by media) does not make you think. The post movie hangover is so bad that you would rather have a drink to digest the fact of being cheated.

Bhagat Singh, C azaad were people with principles and a mission - to fight for the freedom of the nation. As against, our beer freaks who decide to kill a minister based on A report from A TV channel. How lame is that?

I beg to differ. AFAIK the movie shows how a combination of various factors leads to the 5 young men behaving/reacting the way they do. The movie does'nt support their way of doing things though. The tv report u are talking abt. is actually a talk show where the minister is shown speaking on TV, how else do u expect ppl. to know abt a minister and his ilk if not thru the media?

vivek wrote:Besides, comparing their intent of revenge Vis-a-vis motive of freedom fighters is lousy. Today's india has the wherewithal to deal with such corrupt politicians in a just manner and there are certainly better means to deal with it, not a ridiculous fashion in which these duds reacted. No all politicians are corrupt.
really? though the system is in place, there hardly seem to b any corrupt politicians in jails, why do u think that is happening? anyway thats a diferent issue.

vivek wrote: The movie really begins on the second half of the second half and starts spitting on your face with some kind of logic that only the stonned and/or the drunk can interpret.
:roll:

vivek wrote:Its a joke played on the Indian militia. No indian force reacts in such a aggressive fashion as depicted.Even if i choose not to delve into too much logic, the movie fails to stand even on a superficial layer.
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by Peter Camenzind » Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:47 pm

vivek wrote: Bhagat Singh, C azaad were people with principles and a mission - to fight for the freedom of the nation. As against, our beer freaks who decide to kill a minister based on A report from A TV channel. How lame is that?


FYI... the beer freaks won't kill minister based on A report from a TV channel.... but as a sincere friends of Ajay Rathode( Madhavan ) they will protest against Minister's statement( aajkal pilots plane ko hosh me udaathe ...dialogues like that ) in the channel and speaking so will seriously
affect their friends who knows very well abt Rathode and his patriotism.

vivek wrote:Besides, comparing their intent of revenge Vis-a-vis motive of freedom fighters is lousy. Today's india has the wherewithal to deal with such corrupt politicians in a just manner and there are certainly better means to deal with it, not a ridiculous fashion in which these duds reacted. No all politicians are corrupt. In fact, had so many politicians were corrupt, India would have collapsed.


Definately there will be a comparision with the freedom fighters of that age where their behaviour is based on idealism and ppl of this age where if one say " I can die for my country", public will laugh at him even though if he really mean it. so wht do u expect from such kind of ppl( beer freaks u may call). Thats why in this film the point is not about dying for the county but the point is ..."finding out the right cause to die for the county..."

vivek wrote:It would have been safer to have a climax similar to Yuva ( which now seems like an awesome film).

here the climax cannot be kept like Yuva as that film is made with the characters that are idealistic.whre as here teh charaters are more similar to that u may find in many universities...

vivek wrote:The movie really begins on the second half of the second half and starts spitting on your face with some kind of logic that only the stonned and/or the drunk can interpret.


The actual change and the content begins in the second half what i feel. and the logic they find is more meaningful if u evaluate their characterss and the influence that they have got from the documentary made...

vivek wrote:Its a joke played on the Indian militia. No indian force reacts in such a aggressive fashion as depicted.Even if i choose not to delve into too much logic, the movie fails to stand even on a superficial layer.




Indian force won't react in the way that have shown in the movie but

practically they may react in the same way by different means may be secretly.
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by vivek » Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:49 pm

There are politicians in jail. Surely there are no 'popular' politicians in jail, but party workers and MLAs have certainly faced trials and landed-up in jail.Justice system is certainly not dead and its not as bad as we think. Or else, there would have been chaos.



The movie in question is unreasonable and does not provide a clear transision from being dudes to someone who is willing to die for a cause that too in parallel to C Azaad and Bhagat Singh!and for a cause that can be fought other ways. One life lost due to say corrupt politicians, and 5 lost for stupidity.



Either it sends a wrong message to the youth (considering we are open to messages from movies) or the movie sends out nothing.



Rang De Basanti will remain a badly executed movie on a novel theme that could have had a good intellectual conclusion, rather than a bloodbath.



The media coverage in the movie was not only of a talk show but also of new reports and footage.It was very irresponsible of the movie to showcase youth in such a hyper state, motivated enough to commit a murder based on news reports.I know i have gone too much too far with the movie, but it failed in basic departments.



Someone said, the movie is Swades meets Dil Chahta hai. Rang De.. did meet Dil Chahta hai but stayed quite far from the refinement that Swades had.
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by CtrlAltDel » Mon Jan 30, 2006 5:16 pm

i havent seen RDB yet, but i cannot call Swades a gr8 movie...well intentioned and thot out, yes, but it was a preachy documentary-like drudgery.
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by FT » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:52 pm

Completely agree with Vivek. RDB is such a loser of a movie.



Allright, let's analyze the movie:

- The director is completely out of his breadth here. What does he take us - Indian audience to be? No complete songs, no meaning ful fights. That one fight between DJ and Laxman P was such a puss-puss. Then when DJ gets into the ring with that big wrestler... what a shame. Our regular heroes like Sunny Deols or our Telugu Chirus and JR. Ntrs would have made mincemeat of the joker.

- Bloody hell, no foren locales. This director has no clue of the regular bollywood filming process.

- The the flashbacks are all interspersed, only a joker would do that.

- Dances, where are the damn dances?

- Skin, wasted firang girl. There is no skin in this movie. Why is there no skin? our nanna-munna kids accompanying their parents to the movies will have withdrawal sydromes and not pay attention to the movie. As a consequence will cry through the movie... not a done thing.

- Patriotism. This movie has no concept of what patriotism is. Those jokers can't even hold their hands to fire for a second. Sunny Deol should have played the part of DJ.

- Damn, violence is the only tool to changing the policies of the nation. Why do those guys go back and forth and dwell on the guilt aspect? Why the damn interplay?

- The beer guzzling bozos can be pushed to the point that they have a strong motivation? Is this director from Mars? We are Indians. Thick skinned and can't be motivated at all.



Ah now, the good things about this movie.

- I like the solution to changing this country. Join police, IAS, politics. Rather simple. Appeals to my mind completely. Yeah, we don't need people's empowerment in this democracy. Lawyers, docs, engineers, it professionals, chaiwalas, plumbers, housewifes, etc can never make dent in the policies of this country. Become either of the three and that is the way to change the country.



Yeah, Vivek. This movies sucks completely. Zero out of Zero.
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by rock_26iin » Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:35 pm

Excellent post FT, hope Vivek understands what you are trying to say.



Vivek, as has already been pointed out, the reason that these people behave so brashly is that the cause of turmoil is in their very backyard.

Madhavan's death acts as a jerk to them, brings them to terms with what really happens in the country. Booze, beer and partying is just a smoke-screen they had put up but this jerk shatters that curtain and shows them the reality



And it is a ground reality, in case u missed it just b4 the credits, the stats say that MIGs have been in operation since way back and they have caused the death of 78 pilots in 206 crashes in the past 15 years. Is this the repayment given to the people who want to risk their lives for their country? Thats the entire point of the story which causes them to revolt. And even in the end, it is shown that the entire country's youth wants change and therefore the slogan, "A Generation Awakens"



And you say that the parallel story between Bhagat Singh, Chandra Shekhar Azaad etc was a lousy display. But it was their realization of their roots, they realized that their life may well have a purpose and then they dedicated themselves to that purpose. I agree, there are a few loopholes in the movie, but the social message outweighs all of them.



And there is a certain amount of parallelism between today's government and the britishers, although the britisher's practiced open tyranny, these people do it secretly and face it, there is no such thing as the uncorrupt politician, those are the people who were thrown out of the beauraucracy long ago, only the amount collected varies. Period.



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by vivek » Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:02 pm

Folks i agree with your comments and brickbats. My sole focus was on the treatment of the story. I am not really questioning the logic. All i thought was that the so called awakening happened rather late and the reaction to the 'awakening' was stupid.Killing is just a bad idea and is a big no no, esply when it comes from educated college students!More like " Thank god..i woke up..now i am going to kill the next thing that walks"



The movie did not even depict any such scenario where the characters are exploring other options and rulling out the same one by one. It was more like " Oh my god..what to do?" and the girl says " Kill em'...." ( Just like the freedom fighters did). Comparing freedom fighters to the what these young dorks did was totally lame. Two different circumstances, two different intellects.



As far as those sarcastic comments about the absence of foreign locales..well Swades did'nt have any? No beer,no candy floss. The movie made sense.



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by gyanster » Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:36 pm

Vivek, while I appreciate your views about how you look at the movie when everyone else is raving about it.



But, think about it, there are absolutely no mistakes in the movie, no loose ends, no questions remain, no hamming (SRK anyone?) and no dragging of the movie. There was comedy even at the end, when the movie was it at its most intense.



And about the guys not thinking too much about what they are about to do, what do you expect from youth? They are brash and do not obviously think about consequences, Bhagat Singh was 23 when he died. Do you think he would have done it when he was over 25?



Yes, it is and odd (revolutionary?) solution for an endemic problem like corruption, but no one could have done it better.
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by Kenny » Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:40 am

Watched it a couple of days ago, and I thought it was a cut above most other Hindi movies (which isn't really saying that much). Not great, but fairly good.



I enjoyed it anyway.
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by Kenny » Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:43 am

Apologize for the double post, but how come nobody's voted 'crap' yet? Couldn't stay away from the 'good' button could you? :D
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by CtrlAltDel » Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:50 am

Kenny wrote:...how come nobody's voted 'crap' yet?...
maybe thats coz its NOT crap...
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by fl » Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:49 pm

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by Bimbette » Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:23 pm

vivek wrote:The movie did not even depict any such scenario where the characters are exploring other options and rulling out the same one by one. It was more like " Oh my god..what to do?" and the girl says " Kill em'...." ( Just like the freedom fighters did). Comparing freedom fighters to the what these young dorks did was totally lame. Two different circumstances, two different intellects.





If I remember right, one of the guys in the movie did call his friends crazy (when they decided to kill the minister). In real-life, yes the storyline about wanting to kill a person because of an unfortunate incident, seems extreme but the point the Director is trying to make is that we shouldn't crib and suffer the system when we can all get off our back-sides and do something about it.



I saw the movie and I can't figure out why people don't like it. Of course, Vivek, you are entitled to your opinion but for all those who want a change ....go watch Rang De Basanti.....it is worth it.
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by akhilis2cool » Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:49 pm

vivek wrote:Folks i agree with your comments and brickbats. My sole focus was on the treatment of the story. I am not really questioning the logic. All i thought was that the so called awakening happened rather late and the reaction to the 'awakening' was stupid.Killing is just a bad idea and is a big no no, esply when it comes from educated college students!More like " Thank god..i woke up..now i am going to kill the next thing that walks"


the movie never promoted killing like tht. It just showed how the boys react to the situation...:roll:
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by justme » Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:22 am

exactly - they arent trying to promote the killing. its just a depiction of their feelings. the beauty it is that it is art meant to be understood whichever way you want. there are no messages!
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by vivek » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:02 pm

Rang De Basanti is a fluke
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by vivek » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:05 pm

By the way, if you guys need Rahman's background score for this film PM me, will upload it somewhere. I dont think much of the film, but i liked Rahman's treatment. Some serious scene and a funky rock score..something unique.



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well pacakged emotional rollacoster..nothin more

by black » Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:15 am

hey guys..

i agree with vivek n ohters

the movie is a well made commercial one..with only one intent

an EMOTIONAL OVERDOSE to the typical indian audience...

rite from the history to the present day MIGS they got all their facts wrong

any ways one thing is commendable ....

the movie managed to touch the poeple....

i can only laugh at the ease with which the boozers turn into militia..

and again to the revolutionaries who address the nation...

cool good for the movies only
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by Mayavi Morpheus » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:11 am

The movie is absolute crap fi you are looking for a message.

Its total timepass if you go with a blank mind and come out with a blank mind.
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