A R Rehman\'s Boys

by **Anil** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 10:18 pm

Thought it wise to chill out. Off-late, this place is becoming scorchy what with so many controversy-ridden topics. Well, liked all the songs except the \"Please Sir\" (wow! what was that?). Anyway, the million dollar question is how original is Rehman this time? Sunny, the eminent Eminem fan, did any song ring a bell (\"Sare gama....\"). Another one (\"Egiripadithe...\") sounded exactly like one of Sukhbir\'s old Punjabi songs. Anyway, on the whole quite peppy numbers - can\'t ask for more.

by **sunny** » Sun Jul 20, 2003 10:02 am

well Anil thanx for opening this board. i liked the BOY\'s songs although they sound copied. i don\'t think even one song is authentic. atleast one line is copied. bottom line is Rahman, like his counterparts, copy all the time. so it won\'t make any difference. others copy the entire song whereas Rahman does it in parts. the only genuine thing about Rahman is when he makes some classical songs. (again most of which r carnatic classicals).. but what i like about Rahman is the choice of singers, they r apt\' for a perticular song. like Vasundra Das, Harini, Nithya sree, Karthik, etc..... the lyrics in Boys r pathetic man.. i like the sng called DATING (i feel it would have been better if it were sung entierly in Telugu)... but again rap part sounded copied (there\'s the same rap in BABA score).. bottom line - it\'s different from the regular stuff. so guess it\'s worth listening to. what do u say Anil? btw what does SAREGAME sound like??? and even though copying is there, can\'t retrieve from listening to AR man!!

by **peeping tom** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:38 pm

One hot news - A R Rehman, being a muslim, declined to give tunes to a song based on the Hindi LORD AYYAPPA. I was shocked. Somebody told me that the tune on Ayyappa on that movie (BOYS) belongs to some other (must be) Hindu music director. Oh God, save me from religious fanatics.

by **vivek** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:52 pm

Shit, I wanted to start a board on this movie. Just missed, I guess. Anyway, plz don\'t talk rubbish about \'Padmasri\' A R Rahman! He is a genius. Boys is an attempt to make a bubble gum type teen music. A kinda music which has the sound of the boy bands. And ARR has managed to do it, just like he always does. BOYS is not an inspiration but the music justifies the very purpose of the movie. Notes like \'cha cha\' are derived from the old English Salsa \'Macho Mumbo\', but these are just audio loops available freely on the Net to be used by anyone - you, me or Rahman. You MUST listen to the original Tamil music, not the Telugu one. If you are a true ARR fan, buy the Tamil version - the sound and lyrics are superb. Especially, the Tirukkural sung as a rap by Vansundhara in \'dating\' pushes the purpose a wee bit more. Plus BOYS Tamil version audio CD is the first CD in Indian audio CD history to be \'Dolby 5.0 home theater ready\'. Telugu Boys is miles behind.

by **sunny** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 8:56 am

Hey Peeping Tom… There\’s one thing u should be aware of, Rahman was a Hindu before he was a Muslim. Remember Dilip Kumar was his former name. He is awfully conscious about Classical Music. And by classical (Carnatic/Hinduatani) don\’t u think it is exclusively related to Hinduism?? May be he didn\’t do the AYYAPPA song cos\’ he didn\’t want to deal with any controversies in the future. Remember how he was lambasted for his song Musthafa? Music is not associated with any religion dude. BTW, which song were you talking about? I don\’t see no AYYAPPA song!!
 
 
PS : You can look back on Rahman\’s work and notice that he has done a whole bunch of classicals. Ex : Alipongera\’, Sakhi, Laali Laali\’, Indira, Kannulatho\’, Jeans… every song man. Has got a classical touch.

by **vivek** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 1:43 pm

arr has done so many song the ragas of which are textboox versions, thats the best about him. The way he uses these for composing OSTs. The ayyappa stuff is new to me, but i am sure he has a valid reason.

by **peeping tom** » Wed Jul 23, 2003 6:46 pm

I know AR REHMAN belongs to Ramnad district of Tamilnadu. He was initially a hindu . later converted to Islam. But the news which I am giving is still floating around in Madras film circles with deep dismay.
 MY APOLOGIES TO ALL REAL ARR FANS.

by **Jagdish** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:15 am

hey vivek...u r right man....he is a great musician....and we should be proud of that...hey boyz is an excellent work done by him....touching the classical,western,pop,soft,..everything...its a mixture...and this is the new style created by him in india...that\'s great yaa...see now everyone(music directors) will follow him....and see the singers he selected for boyz lucky ali ..vasundra das....and all...they r doing just gr8....its because a r rehman is getting them right...except lucky ali all other singers in boyz are introduced by him...that simply great...and dont forget he is padmashree....look at oke okkadu he just created his style....many followed him....see the lyrics of that ....they r simply great and meaningfull...now the boyz ..look at the lyrics they are simply nice ....but style is new to us....tuning them is also very different to us....i just say a r rehman is gr8...

by **vivek** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 12:02 pm

True, very true and look today my year old prediction is gonna come true, Padmashree ARrahman is gonna win the national award for Mani ratnam\'s Kannathil Muthamital\'s music score. Boys must have been a cake walk for him. A true arr fan, will store only his original work not the dubbed work. I know quite few northies who buy his tamil CDs and blast in the car, it makes me feel good. Buy Boys tamil guys, thats way too good. And ya also try to download, \' Masoom\' a single later addedin Vande mataram. Search in Kazaa.

by **Anil** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:11 am

Vivek, no offense but, it would be wise and healthy if we don\'t rake up Tamil vs Telugu issue here. Let\'s just discuss music and not muddy it with parochial issues. After all music has no language, isn\'t it? However, the songs can be enjoyed more only when you understand the lyrics too. So, a Telugu-speaking person can appreciate Telugu lyrics more than those in Tamil and vice versa, in spite of whatever \"techincal\" superiority in the recording of the original versus the dubbed ones.

by **sunny** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 10:37 am

Anil... there is a wide difference between Tamil & Telugu music. whether u like it or not my friend this is a perpetual fact. see all the Tamil music directors know classical music. whereas only a few of the Telugu ones do, like MMKreem. i think that a person has to know classical before he can become a music director. this guy, RPPatnayak, is a real dumbo. all he plays is absolute crap. and his partner Usha, Yuk.... du know that she has started to learn classical NOW.... it\'s absurd man... look at all the tamil singers - Nithya Sree, Srinivaas, Vasundra Das, Harini, Karthik, etc.... all youngsteers... name any from the telugu field.... Usha... and what on earth is Udit Narayan doing singing in telugu. his telugu accent sucks apparently. and that tiersome Ragavendra Rao(director) he spoils the essence of Keervanis tunes with his obscene videos.... get over it man there r somethings u just can\'t get over......

by **Anil** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:00 am

Frankly speaking Sunny, I really don\'t care whether the singers are classically trained or not or whether they can speak the language or not. As long as it is melodious and rhythmic, I am game to any kind of music, hindi, english, telugu, tamil, old, new, classical, pop, rock, etc., etc. But one thing, to render a song mellifluously, one doesn\'t have to be trained in classical music. You might be aware that SP Balasubramaniam had no training in clssical music whatsover! Chitra doesn\'t speak telugu, but I think she is the best singer in telugu film industry after Suseela/Janaki. There are lots of youngsters in telugu music world too. I don\'t know their names but the songs from Okkadu, Manasantha nuvve, Nuvvu Nenu, etc., were pretty good. And the girl Nitya Santhoshini\'s native tongue is telugu. She stays in Gandhinagar. Her father Dr. Rangachari is a close acquaintance of us. There are talented youngsters everywhere but in the film and music industry, one ought to either have a godfather or should be extraordinarily lucky.

by **sunny** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 9:19 am

Talk about Music!!! - Freddie Mercury, Jimmy Page, Joe Satriani, Eddie Van Halen, Jimi Hendrix, Robert Plant, Mark Knopfler, Jeff Beck, Yngwie Malmsteen, Eric Clapton, Bryan May, Gary Moore, Ted Nugent, Joe Perry, Richie Sambora, Kurt Cobain,Slash, Jim Morrison, Axl Rose, John Lennon, David Bowie, Mike Jagger, Bono, Ozy Osbourne, Bob Dylan, Sting, Bono, Don Henley, Steven Tyler, David Coverdale, Bruice Springsteen, Joe Cocker, Tom Petty, Bryan Adams, Roger Waters, Billy Idol, Billy Joel, Jon Bon Jovi, Meatloaf, Chris Robinson, Steve Wai…. Should we be talking about Rahman man????!! Or some Indian filmy music director who don’t even know their music gener?? Hell nooo!!! --- --PS : pls don’t come up with Mr.Rahman doing International projects like Bombay Dreams...;cos Bombay Dreams SUCKS!!!!

by **vivek** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 10:21 am

Most think, talking about present and dead western musicians is making a fashion statement, if you are one of those and then stay away from desi musicians. We would like you to come up with a genre wise catagory of all the musicians you have listen here. ARR falls in Film music or OST.

by b. » Fri Aug 01, 2003 8:46 pm

Hey Vivek!
 

 
Always a pleasure to be in your boards.
 

 
I am an admirer of ARR. The guy has got powerful music and something that gets your attention immediately. I like it.

by **vivek** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:10 am

All the tunes which you mentioned are classics by ARR, except \'alaipongera\' which is \'alaipayuthey\' a Carnatic composition and not by ARR.

by **vivek** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:14 am

Thanks \'b\', BTW how many of you are aware of the \'unknown\' ARR\'s works?. If you guys remember the Hindu Young World commercial, \'...yound world in the Hindu every saturday..\' was the first ARR jingle, then came the superb yet simple signature tune for \'Spirit of unity concerts for national intergration on DD1. Then the Mozart adaptation of Titan music, then Leo coffee, Garden Vareli and now Airtel.

by **vivek** » Sat Aug 02, 2003 12:22 am

I heard the Telugu Boys. it\'s pathetic like words stuffed in music. I am not biased, but the dubbing is poor. There have been good telugu versions, for ex. Premikudu, Prema Desham (sounded better in telugu), Sakhi and few more. Adnam Sami is missing!, he sang that boom boom number along with Sadhana Sargam in Tamil.

by **sunny** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 8:24 am

Boys... It turned out to be some street filth. American Pie 1,2,3 are more decent than Boys. At least we know for sure their contents. The songs don\'t have anything to do with the videos. They really sucked.
 
No wonder Rahman didn\'t do the Ayyappa song. The background score? There was none. I expected some raps in the background man, but in vain.
 
A statutory warning for those of you who are yet to watch Boys - \'Don\'t go with your parents or family\'. I think films like \'Allari, Bachlors, \' are far better. One line - \'Street filth on a huge budget\' that\'s BOYS.

by **peeping tom** » Sun Aug 31, 2003 1:11 pm

Hey sunny, his real old Hindu name must be Lakshmikanth.

by **Mayavi Morpheus** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 4:34 am

Who cares? He gave \"Maa Tujhe Salaam\"! I am happy with that. I don\'t care if he gives tunes for Ayyappa or not, I dont care if he composes for Ursu or not. He is one true patriot.
 
Anyway, did any of you read Boys review on fullhyd?

by **vivek** » Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:32 am

ARR\'s music is often underutilised by directors. Very few come close to picturise it to the level of the music ARR gives. Duet by Balachander came close and so did Kanathil Muthamital (won national award this year) and Bombay. Shankar fails to interpret ARR on the silver screen. There have been many directors like him who have wasted good music. Boys was a huge let down, even En Swasa Katre and Sapnay was but atleast they were weak with narration. Boys was rubbish. If Maa Tuje Salam clicked with you, catch the single \'masoom\' sung by him.

by **sunny** » Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:38 pm

Hey buddy! Can you give me the keyword to search for \'Masoom\' in Kaaza.

by **vivek** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 12:25 pm

Try Masoom Vandemataram, because this single was later added in the US version of Vandemataram. Else, check mohankumars.com. Those guys put up these rare singles for a while.

by **sunny** » Sat Sep 06, 2003 10:53 pm

Hey, thanks man!!!

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