People who stammer/stutter

[lonewolf]

Is there anyone in here who stammers and lives in the US, UK or Australia?

[spamtaneous]

Is there anyone in here who stammers and lives in the US, UK or Australia?

is it a strict AND.....



i may stammer...but donot live in US/UK/AUs

[spamtaneous]

Is there anyone in here who stammers and lives in the US, UK or Australia?

is it a strict AND.....



i may stammer...but donot live in US/UK/AUs

[lonewolf]

Well, actually yes.



I have attended the McGuire programme a few times and they have branches in the US, UK and Australia. Either there are not enough PWS in India or there is nobody to represent the programme there.



Are you covert?

[akhilis2cool]

Is there anyone in here who stammers and lives in the US, UK or Australia?

is it a strict AND.....

i may stammer...but donot live in US/UK/AUs

same here...

what are PWS?

[spamtaneous]

[quote="lonewolf"]Well, actually yes.



I have attended the McGuire programme a few times and they have branches in the US, UK and Australia. Either there are not enough PWS in India or there is nobody to represent the programme there.



Are you covert?[/quote]



eh...

[lonewolf]

Is there anyone in here who stammers and lives in the US, UK or Australia?

is it a strict AND.....

i may stammer...but donot live in US/UK/AUs

same here...
what are PWS?

PWS = person who stammers.



Do you go to therapy?

[lonewolf]

Are you covert?quote]

eh...

[CtrlAltDel]

i guess i am a part-time covert...

[lonewolf]

i guess i am a part-time covert...

Covert stutterers do not substitute every word in the sentence, they only substitute difficult words.

[CtrlAltDel]

i guess i am a part-time covert...

Covert stutterers do not substitute every word in the sentence, they only substitute difficult words.

that happens to me sometimes when i am speaking in a formal setting (like a speech etc). i usually stammer over some words and try to cover it up with different phrases or words.

[akhilis2cool]

PWS = person who stammers.

Do you go to therapy?

actually no. I've over come most of my stammering problem on my own. Still some of it remains tho...especially in a formal meeting. But I have found that the best way to overcome it is by confronting it head on.

[lonewolf]

i guess i am a part-time covert...

Covert stutterers do not substitute every word in the sentence, they only substitute difficult words.

that happens to me sometimes when i am speaking in a formal setting (like a speech etc). i usually stammer over some words and try to cover it up with different phrases or words.

Thats anxiety, not a stutter. Many fluent people get that feeling.

[lonewolf]

PWS = person who stammers.

Do you go to therapy?

actually no. I've over come most of my stammering problem on my own. Still some of it remains tho...especially in a formal meeting. But I have found that the best way to overcome it is by confronting it head on.

Thats interesting. By taking it head on, do you mean jump into speaking situations?

[akhilis2cool]

Thats interesting. By taking it head on, do you mean jump into speaking situations?

In a way. Most of my stuttering went away after I confronted situations I dreaded the most. Like presenting a seminar, speaking to a senior person at the work place etc.,



what abt. u?

[lonewolf]

Thats interesting. By taking it head on, do you mean jump into speaking situations?

In a way. Most of my stuttering went away after I confronted situations I dreaded the most. Like presenting a seminar, speaking to a senior person at the work place etc.,

what abt. u?

Mine started late and I was covert then. Now I'm pretty much ok. I don't have many feared situations since I've been to the McGuire programme. I may teach a few sessions in the next course in Washington DC this November to help new students.



I was wondering if there are enough PWS in Hyderabad so that I could probably start the first McGuire support group there. Of course, I'll need approval for that, but I know my folks here will be too eager to say yes and open a support group in India.



Stammering is a source of embarassment for many people, not only in India, but also developed countries, and it takes courage for someone to say that he stammers and would like to go for therapy. As far as I know, India has only 2 centres, one at Pune and the other in Bangalore. Their methods are a little medico-centric and they charge a lot, even for follow-up support, which makes up 3/4 of the fluency development.

[asli_badmash]

You know.. to be honest.



I dont know if people consider going to therapy a fav past time here... yes people stammer but they live with it. Kids stammer but getting into that engineering/medical college is more important than trying to get rid of your stammer.



Going to therapy about anything is not such a big fad with us Indians... but I welcome the thought that I can sit with people who stammer and try and understand their problem.

[lonewolf]

You know.. to be honest.

I dont know if people consider going to therapy a fav past time here... yes people stammer but they live with it. Kids stammer but getting into that engineering/medical college is more important than trying to get rid of your stammer.

Going to therapy about anything is not such a big fad with us Indians... but I welcome the thought that I can sit with people who stammer and try and understand their problem.

Actually, the McGuire programme is not a therapy or a "cure-guarantee" speech centre. It was started by former stammerers and is run by those who have attended former workshops. It is not medically certified or acclaimed by any medical body. It is also the most successful one around right now. Medically certified doctors have no clue about what goes on in a stammerer's mind and body (panic) when he encounters a feared situation. This is one of the most complex cases. Fortunately we have people like David McGuire who have not only overcome their stammer, but are also helping others in the process.



Some people who have been on the course have paid thousands of dollars on speech therapists with very less improvement. After taking a few courses with McGuire, many of them are winners of Toastmasters competitions and other public speaking events. This however needs a lot of practice and the percentage of failure is mainly those who are too lazy or stubborn to change their old speaking habits after the course.

[asli_badmash]

Lone wolf are you trying to increase awareness about the program or trying to sell it.



I can understand your passion.. but how many PWS people in India would attend such sessions. I dont know!!

[lonewolf]

Lone wolf are you trying to increase awareness about the program or trying to sell it.

I can understand your passion.. but how many PWS people in India would attend such sessions. I dont know!!

I'm not trying to sell it! I've recommended one of my close PWS friends in California not to attend the programme because he is inherently not ready for the vigours of the programme, even though he wants to give it a shot.



The reason I wanted to find out if there are Indian PWS interested is because of the general attitude Indians have to someone who stutters. One Indian guy who was on the programme wanted to commit suicide before he came to us. His speech was very bad. He couldn't say his own name and couldn't confide or share his problem with anybody. He had to make project presentations and appear for interviews.



I have very open-minded parents with whom I can confide anything, but not many other Indian PWSs have parents who would even consider doing anything about it. Their concept about therapy is it is either for mentally disturbed people or that the stammer would go away automatically.



Well, technically I'm a global person and never differentiated between Indian or non-Indian PWS. All I wanted to know was if there was any Indian/Hyderabadi who would be interested in starting a support group there because of the extra emotional burden stammerers in India would have to face when compared to a stammerer in the US or elsewhere.

[asli_badmash]

OK.. let me spell it out to you.



Why do people in India need to go to these sessions? Try answering this for Indian people and Indian attitude in mind and more so Hyderabadi attitude in mind. Since maybe you want this group in HYD.

[lonewolf]

OK.. let me spell it out to you.

Why do people in India need to go to these sessions? Try answering this for Indian people and Indian attitude in mind and more so Hyderabadi attitude in mind. Since maybe you want this group in HYD.

Any stammerer who wants to rid or cope with his stammer is free to come to the course. I'm not forcing anyone to come here. And what do you mean by Indian/Hyderabadi attitude? If you are referring to the "take it light" attitude, then don't even think about attending it. Its for people who are serious about doing something with their stammer. Obviously you are not someone who stammers, so you won't understand what it is to be one.

[asli_badmash]

Dont be so hostile brother...



I was asking you the same questions people ask when you want to start something. Starting a group and making it run successfully means you ask these questions and answer them. Lets be practical about it.. if you want to start a group you have to have people in it. It just wont be you.. right! Cause that would be funny!



Anyway if you want to start a group in HYD, then you have to not only understand the people in HYD you also have to understand their priorities. And if you want something to run successfully in HYD.. then you have to cater to those needs.



I am sure you have done your research.. I just thought I would help you out. But do think about it... Its good to be passionate about something. But starting something and making it run is a whole different ball game.



And lastly I understand how tough it is for people who stammer. I have seen people in my distant family who stammer.



Best of luck with your goals.

[ycr007]

Err....I Don't Stammr But Sometimes (As I Found out in my Prsentation Today ) Was That whenever I Forgt a Phrase or a Word,Instead of Saying Aaaahh....Ummmmm......Etc, I Say "What Do you Call that???" Out Loud

And When I Do get the correct Word after some Brainwork,I do exclaim Ah!



Thatz Why,To Brsuh up My Public Spaking Skills I am Thinking about attnding the Hyderabad Chapter of the Toastmasters International.

Since I Haven't attended it yet,I Can't Give you My Views on it,But Shall do so Soon I Hope............

[lonewolf]

Dont be so hostile brother...

I was asking you the same questions people ask when you want to start something. Starting a group and making it run successfully means you ask these questions and answer them. Lets be practical about it.. if you want to start a group you have to have people in it. It just wont be you.. right! Cause that would be funny!

I wasn't hostile. I was only replying to your post from a PWS point of view. If there are PWS who are too embarassed to come out in the open about their speech, its time for them to open up. I know people who have been too scared to venture outside their comfort zones out of fear that others might ridicule them. The proposed support group for any stutterer who decides its time for him to stop sitting in his shell and do something about it.

Yes, I know about starting groups. A friend and I are starting two support groups beginning this November in Washington D.C. - a D.C. chapter of NSA (National Stuttering Association) and a D.C. McGuire support group. David and I are the only two right now, and we have quite a few who are interested in joining.

Anyway if you want to start a group in HYD, then you have to not only understand the people in HYD you also have to understand their priorities. And if you want something to run successfully in HYD.. then you have to cater to those needs.

I am sure you have done your research.. I just thought I would help you out. But do think about it... Its good to be passionate about something. But starting something and making it run is a whole different ball game.

At one time, my topmost priority was to do something about my speech. I didn't care which country I would have to travel to, how long it would take, etc. I had plans of even going to the UK. It may not be the same with everybody. Some are content while others live in the hope that one day they may wake up and speak fluently.



Well, I haven't done much research, but I know it will be difficult to get hold of PWS in Hyderabad. Anyway I'm not going to be there in a few years so it will be a while.