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by VChangeU » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:18 pm

A separate state is no solution to its genuine problems. I’m from MahabubNagar District and would like to support United Andhra Pradesh.

Please stand for the United AP.

The longer the uncertainty about the future of the state, the greater the damage it would do to the state's economy.
Hyderabad, India's fifth-largest metropolitan centre and one of the most cosmopolitan cities that has witnessed unprecedented economic development in the past decade, has already suffered for no fault of its own citizens.
Let’s play our role by sending opinion & views to the Sri Krishna committee:

Email : vkduggal.ccsap@mha.gov.in

Your requests should reach by 10-April-2010, Send your opinions and views at the earliest.
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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state?

by VChangeU » Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:17 pm

We don’t need a separate state to achieve progress..

Let Telangana Supporters do half of what they are doing now for a separate state and we will achieve more progress in Telangana than we can ever imagine...

Telangana needs a development agenda, a stronger voice in decision making, a better share of state revenues, implementation of old, unkept promises.

A separate state is no solution to its genuine problems !!!!
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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state?

by z hyderabadi jai telengana » Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:16 pm

Rabi Narayan wrote:
andhrabaditudu wrote:ofcourse s, telangana is not a part of andhrapradesh..it was forcefully dissolved in andhra in certain conditions, andhra pradesh is for andhra people..potti sriramulu does hunger strike for andhra people not for telangana people, and hyderabad is a part of telangana..go to wikipedia site and u know everything about telangana and history...no point of discussing anymore..telangana already declared by govt of india..bye bye andhra people take care of your own places...for your kind info can someone tell me why andhra people are involving in strike for samykyandhra..can anybody tell one reason..what is the use for andhra people for samykyandhra...its all rubbish..





i don't agree with you.don't you have opprtunities getting from andhra pradesh.no matter in which opportunities there but this is for all indians.it seems that ur not indian people like you created separate states in india.dont you think after merging with andhra pradesh you people dont get benefited out of this.separate state dont create separate opportunity rather that it'll crate a path for the politicians to make politics by using us.some body will be the chief minister and have millions of rupees in their pocket.that's all.it's a fact wht the jharkhand CM did u know v.well.so my friend dont agree with this proposal.be united


FIRST OF ALL TO COMMENT THIS ISSUE YOU MUST BE A " NATIVE " OF A TELENGANA AND KNOW THE BASIC HISTORY.

What you people are stating here in this forum are just baseless assumptions.
you need to read and go throught the history of Telengana. what the andhra has given to Telengana in their rule? not a single cheif minister from Telengana were allowed to servive any time and the Communal Riots were the invention these people. why not there were any communal riots before 1956? were any riots reported earlier than this date in the 400 year old history of Telengana Hyderabad?
You people are just playing dirty politics and dirty game to keep hold on this region as it is a Golden Goose for you. for your information Telengana region earlier to the dissolution into Andhra was self sufficient in all walks of life. and now after the 46 years of history what we have got nothing but all destroyed industry, LAnd Grabbed by Andhra Realtors, Divide and Rule policy by inciting communal tensions within two hormoniously living communities since centuries, selling and bannishing all the industries owned by Telengana people and you are saying BENIFITS ? who got benifited ? Andhra not the Telengna, they diverted all the waters to their territory and all the resources generated were investd in their own lands not in Telengana, to know the better picture you first refer to statistics of the developmentand the exploitation.

Dear donot pretend to be blind to this issues just ignoring the facts and singing to the tunes of The Capitalists of Andhra. you blame the politicians and quote the example of Jharkhand, well do you see only the jharkand state what about the then bombay state divided into Gujrat and maharashtra? what about the chettisgardh? and Hariyana carved out of Punjab? donot be so ignorant to give silly reasons,
Telengana people has lost all the govt. jobs to Andhrites and in every department and every corner of life Telengana people have been sidelined. If you are staying in Hyderabad then you see the chaotic situation and the influx and exploitation of Hyderabad and Telengana people.
Telegana's history Tradition and Culture Language is gradually destroyed, imposedby and is being replaced by their(ANDHRA culture and habits.
Politicians ! ! ! where would you find any honest politician? point any a clean and honest politician in the whole billion population is there any? Yes indeed many a times the Telengana people were CHEATED by their own Politicians M.Chinna REddy is the best example who used the telengana sentiments and when he was awarded a few seats and the ministries he changed his mind and treached and BETRAYED the telengana people and what he got in return ? not a single full term of Cheif m inistership ! ! !
every time he was in power he was de-throned by the strong lobby of Andhrites and Communal Riots were created to make the situation worse.
Telengana people understand all the times the political parties are playing games even yes a few selfish Telegana politicians too play games and tryto cash on this Issue. but you are ignoring the COMMON MAN's sentiments and their suffering.
there is lot more to write on this issue and already most of the Telengana scholars and the kowledgible people are already putting the light on the facts and exposing the extent of exploitation carried out by Andhra industrialist and capitalists.who made just over night Samkhiya andhra slogan just to save their assets and the investment.
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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state? Say No to Telangana

by VChangeU » Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:35 pm

No one is dominating Telangana people or region, even I’m from Telangana region born and bought up in MahabubNagar, I did my KG to PG in MahabubNagar also I could check with my contacts in Mahabubnagar, Nalgonda, Warangal, Nizamabad…95 people of 100 are interested to have a Unity and voting for United Andhra Pradesh.
Even now I visit Mahabubnagar & Warangal every week to meet my family friends…I always take the feedback from them on Telangana issue…they never ever want to divide the state of AP in to pieces…

I traveled to Jadcherla, Shadnagar, Vanparthy, kosgi, narayanpet, nagarkurnul, kodangal, pargi, makthal, achampet and many more thandas to collect the feedback from the locals along with my team of 80 members.

Similarly my friends in Nalgonda, Warangal & Nizamabad have done similar exercise and collected the data….the outcome was more than 90% of Telanagana people are willing to support the United AP.
We are going to submit the same report to Central Govt in next week with complete survey report to justify the facts..

Telangana will not be formed even after 50 years from now, then we will find a new Political party in 2060 “TRXP – Telanagan Rashtra Xtended Party ” saying we are fighting from past 100 years so give us a separate state.

We have witnessed plenty of Parties formed for Telangana and none of these parties could succeed in their goal.

But few Telangana Party members are Successive in big time by demanding money from various business people across the Telangana regions in the name of party fund. A new way of grabbing/begging money.

TPS – Telangana Praja Samithi founded in 1969 by Madan Mohan & Marri Channa Reddy.
TSS – Telangana Sadhana Samithi, formed in 2001 by A. Narendra
TRS – Telangana Rashtra Samithi, formed in 2001 by K. Chandrashekar Rao (KCR)
TRP – Telangana Rashtra Party, formed on October 11 2002 by G. Innaiah (alias Gade Inna Reddy)
TCP – Telangana Communist Party, formed by S. Venkat Swamy
TJP – Telangana Janata Party, formed in March 2004 by Muralidhar Rao Deshpande
JTP – Jai Telangana Party, formed by P. Indra Reddy
TTPP – Talli Telangana Praja Party, formed in 2005 by Vijayashanti
NTPP – Nava Telangana Praja Party, formed in 2008 by T Devender Goud
PTS – Praja Telangana Samithi, formed in 2009 by Captain Karunakar Reddy & Paturi Karuna
On top of these we can find TRSF – Telangana Rashtra Sadhana Front, TJS – Telangana Jagarana Sena, TJC – Telangana Jana Chaitanya, Telangana Settlers Front and many more forces
Give me one reason why the telangana people not voted the telangana parties from past 50+ years…?????????

The end result of Srikrishna Committee will be United AP, since people from all the regions want United AP.

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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state?

by zhyderabad » Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:41 pm

You have been stressing upon just one fact and point, that is politics.
You have already mentioned that in 1969 M. chenna Reddy founded the Telengana party and you have not mentioned that, at that time the party had swept the polls and it was the same congress and the the same dirty politics he was lured to power and key positions and was persuaded to compromise with the sentiments of telengana and the telengana people.
I have already wrote just point out any one honest and sincere politician in the billion population ! !
so just telling that the parties had been cropping out like rainyfrogs and the response was very cold frrom the telengana people. the reason is very clear.\
On the first instance itself the Telengana people were betrayed and that to so abruptly and without their referendum Chenna Reddy joined hands with Congress then and subdued the movement. I have asked again what he gained out of it ?
he could never continue his regime for any full length of 5 year term and within months he was toppled by the same Andhra lobby.
And one thing should be taken into account that you observe any where in the world any part of the planet you will find both parties from the same soil " a loyal and faithful and a traitor and the treacher" in modern teminology you can say the CORRUPTION AND CORRUPTED.
now you judge who is traitor and who shall be loyal to the cause.
The major cause of telengana people not supporting the so called over night party is because of the nature and the past performance of the so called party founder politicians and now the Telengana people have quite understood the dirty politics being played by the OPPORTUNISTIC AND TREACHEROUS politicians that's why they donot give an ear to their claims.
Just analyse today JAC now which political party it is comprised of??
congress is out -TDP is out - MIM never cared - PRP purely Andhra Based - CPI has minimum impact. now a days you donot hear fromm them any word from these parties why?
it is because they again tried to reap the harvest based on Telengana slogan not being sincere to the cause and the most important fact and the fundamental aspect of this all is the DIFFERENT OPINIONS, DISORGANISATION AND DISAGREEMENT, AND LACK OF UNITY FOR ONE CAUSE. BY THE TELENGANA PEOPLE.
THE TELENGANA PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DIVIDED BY THE SAME UGLY POLITICS AND THE GREED FOR THE POWER AND THE POST BY THE SAME POLITICIANS.
Then how come the people of telengana will vote for them? since they were ditched at the first instance itself.
Now we see the JAC has now literally confined and limited to people's struggle with schollers and the students and common man.
So if you are talking about politics, then yes, it is the failure of the common consensuss over this issue by the people of the telengana being attached to different p arties and afraid of losing the power whether it is ruling or opposition telengana MLA and MPs. They all have been selfish rather self less in this cause to take a step and didnot want to go against their party whips for the cause of telengana and they were sticking and singing the dual tune of telengana and the loyality to the party.So in this case and situation definitely if 1000 parties are formed the telengana is never going to be formed.
You have just refered to a small section of 30 million people and talking to a small section and assuming that no body is infavour is just like day dreaming.
out of 30 million it could be some donot want and some would be serious about it we cannot determine this by going through small poll.
if the real sentiment is to seen then a referendum has to be conducted and then the picture woyuld be clear either + or -.
throughout the forum I found the the song of politics and cheap politics have been sung and no one had pointed their attention to wards the pathetic condition of this region, its diminsihing culture and heritage and history.
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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state? Say No to Telangana

by VChangeU » Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:00 pm

Telangana agitation is started by a political party and then parties....its not a peoples demand for separate state. If its by people of Telangana then we would have achieved Telangana State by now...no need to wait for ages....

The situation in Telangana will be much worst if you we are divided from AP. Together we can progress better.

The longer the uncertainty about the future of the state, the greater the damage it would do to the state's economy.

Hyderabad, India's fifth-largest metropolitan centre and one of the most cosmopolitan cities that has witnessed unprecedented economic development in the past decade, has already suffered for no fault of its own citizens

Why United AP?

Demand of Small states will change the entire future of India in 21st Century.

Let's understand and know why creation of small states is not good for India?
- Regional Conflicts among states will increase
- Creation of small state will divide India
- Small states in India are not making progress
- Increase in corruption among Politicians and state officials
- Increase in Maoist activities

Why a Telangana state?
Today some Political parties and Junk Action committees in AP argue that small states develop well, resources will belong to the locals only, and local leaders will do all good for them, and the locals will get better employment.

Telangana agitation is reckoned to be handiwork of jobless politicians, they have no value within their party.
Telangana supporting leaders want to win the race of CM & Cabinet positions rather than developments in the state.

If they are so concerned about the Telangana people and the developments in the region, they should work out a development agenda and fight for the same rather than demanding for separate state.

Let Telangana leaders resign right now and get lost forever. These are the politicians who want to destabilize India. They have elected in 2009 and want to resign in 2010 for nothing. They are the least wanted people over here and most unfit politicians. Calling for bandhs, causing unnecessary inconvenience to the common man.

Leave India alone as it is without any more divisions. Let there be no more bifurcation of states, just be fair to all the people of our state.

But what is the reality?

Taking the advantage of this situation major political parties have raised the bogie of separate Telangana state.
The end result is more politicians will become millionaires and billionaires but the condition of the common people will deteriorate.

Look at the small states like Tripura, Nagaland, Meghalaya, Manipur formed long ago and also Jarkhand, Uttaranchal, Chattisgadh formed a few years back.
There is absolutely no development in these states nor is there any hope of development in the future. Then why do we need a separate state?

Even the students were misguided by the so called Junk Action Committees.
Lets save the future of our students and be a part of their success.

Hoping that the Supporters of small separate states will give up their anti-people policies by understanding the outcome in better way.

Please check the below website for more info.
http://www.vchangeu.com/united_ap.html
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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state?

by z Hyderabad » Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:38 pm

rkayz29 wrote:108 Facts about Telangana - need and justification

1) Catchment area of Krishna Basin -
Rayalaseema 18%
Andhra 13%
Telangana 69%

Allocation of Krishna water as per tribunal recommendation=
Rayalaseema 16%
Andhra 49%
Telangana 35%

Actual utilization
Rayalaseema 13%
Andhra 87%
Telangana less than 1%

2) Godavari river catchment area
Telangana 79% (1170 TMC)
Andhra 21% (310 TMC)

Utilization of Godavari waters
Andhra 23% (320 TMC i.e. 110% of allotted)
Telangana 9.6 % (143 TMC)
405 TMC is being diverted to Andhra via Polavaram project

3) Total loss of water share of Telangana merging with Andhra is 1125 TMC.With estimation of 1 TMC to serve 10,000 acres, total cultivation land Telangana lost is 11, 25,000 acres.

4) There are 10 districts in Telangana, 9 in Andhra, 4 in Rayalaseema. Out of these 7 districts in Telangana, 3 in Andhra and 1 in Rayalaseema are considered severely backward districts which means 70% of districts in Telangana are backward while in Andhra - 35% and in Rayalaseema - 25%

5) 65% of Industries in Telangana are owned by Andhra.One Telangana person (close relative of Sri Jaipal Reddy) tried to start industry in west Godavari, he was harassed and tormented so much that he gave it up half way through.

6) All Telangana region CM's combined tenure is hardly 6 years.

7) From past 50 years AP got nearly 40 major projects in which 37 went to Seemandhra region

8) Telangana side:
- SLBC (30 TMC) not taken up
- SLBC beyond Musi river (20 TMC) not taken up
- RDS extension (10 TMC) not taken up
- LIS to high level areas in Mahabubnagar not taken up
- Bheema LIS 20 TMC under construction for many years

Seemandhra side:
- Telugu Ganga project (29 TMC) completed
- SRBC (19 TMC) completed
KC canal extension completed (10 TMC)
- Upland areas Brahmamgari matham reservoir (10 TMC) completed
- SRBC beyond Gorakallu (20TMC) under construction
- Puchintala evaporation losses (5 TMC) under construction
- Veligonda not recommended project (40 TMC) almost completed
- Handrineeva sujala sarvanthi not recommended (38 TMC) almost completed
- Galerunagari sujala sravanthi not recommended (38 TMC) is under construction

9) Pothireddypadu regulator was originally created for drinking water to Chennai with 5 TMC. Gradually 5 projects were ‘piggy backed’ & augmented to canal. In the name of Chennai drinking water, Rayalaseema leaders wanted to take away the entire waters of Srisailam reservoir.

10) Veligonda project is being constructed on war footing basis. This will drain 60 TMC of water from Srisailam. This project is not allotted (water share by tribunal) and do not have clearance till now.

11) Handrineeva Srujana Sravanthi, not allotted not cleared project is going on war footing now. It will run through chittoor via Anantapur.

12) SLBC - Srisailam Left Bank Canal, despite of all recommendations, Clearances and permissions never started. This would have provided 30 TMC for 3 Lakh acres in Nalgonda district.

13) Manuguru thermal power station proposed by Central govt due to proximity of coal mines was lobbied to be shifted to Vijayawada, transporting coal from telangana (singareni). This led to shortage of power due to pump set usage by Telangana farmers.

14) Ramagundam super thermal power station (2500 MW) transferred to NTPC,crippling power ownership of state by which we get only 27% of power produced and rest is pooled in national grid.

15) Dummugudem Hydal power station never even started construction – this remained a promise on paper.

16) Icchampalli power (975 MW) project never started.

17) Power regulatory mechanisms – 220 KV, 132 KV, 32 KV substations and lines never realized in Telangana region.

18) If Mumbai is not a free-zone, Delhi is not a freezone, Kolkatta is not a free zone, Chennai is not a free zone, Pune is not a freezone … why should Hyderabad be a freezone ? Andhra enthusiasts hailing Hydrabad being a free zone, were demanding entire Telangana should be freezone.

19) Telangana covers 41.7% area, Seemandhra 58.3% area. Telangana has 40.5% population , Seemandhra 59.5%. Telangana revenue is 53% to the state exchequer.

20) 1953 Andhra Pradesh the area irrigated under TANKS in the Telangana 11 lakh acres. Now it is hardly 6.5 lakh acres.

21) Andhra 9 districts – funds spent on education – Rs 1308.56 Crores Rayalaseema 4 dist – funds spent on education – Rs 382.87 Crores Telangana 10 districts – funds spent on education – Rs 163.39 Crores

22) Literacy – Andhra (9 districts) 42%, Rayalaseema (4 districts) 38%,
Telangana (10 districts) 30%23) Andhra 9 districts – schools 26,800 Rayalaseema 4 dist – schools 13,000 Telangana 10 dist – 17,954

24) Hospitals Andhra (9 dist) 666, Rayalaseema (4 dist) 303, Telangana (10 dist) 270

25) Total Govt employees – Seemandhra (13 districts) 9 lakhs, Telangana (10 dist) 3 lakhs

26) IAS/IPS/IFS officers (civil services) – Andhra (9 dist) 225, Rayalaseema (4 dist) 50, Telangana (10 dist) 60

27) Industries (small/medium/large) – Andhra (9 dist) 6,100, Rayalaseema (4 dist) 773, Telangana (10 dist) 1250

28) Power Utilization Andhra (9 dist) 54% - Rayalaseema (4 dist) 23% - Telangana (10 dist) 23%

29) Nagarjuna sagar project – Andhra submerged land = 0, cultilavation land 20 lakh acres. Telangana submerged land = 100%, cultivation land 4.5 lakh acres

30) Polavaram project is submerging 250 small villages in Telangana, displacing 5 lakh tribal’s are going to provide lakhs of acres cultivation land to Andhra.

31) Grant-in-aid Private Degree colleges Andhra (9 dist) - 96, Rayalaseema (4 dist) - 32, Telangana (10 dist) - 30

32) There are more than 130 posts of heads of departments. Out of them only 7 or 8 are held by the officers belonging to the Telangana region.

33) Sales Tax collection (2001- 2002) – Andhra 21%, Rayalaseema 5%, Telangana 74%

34) Excise Collections (2001-2002) – Andhra 24%, Rayalaseema 10%, Telangana 66%

35) APPSC – Andhra Pradesh public service commission board members so
far, 8 from Andhra, 6 from Rayalaseema, 2 from Telangana.

36) Telanganites constitutes 23% in all industries in Telangana area, 0% in Andhra, Rayalaseema area

37) All housing board colonies in capital city – 93% people are from Seemandhra.

38) Govt Libraries – Andhra (9 districts) 630, Rayalaseema (4 dist) 243,Telangana (10 dist) 450.

39) In 70’s – Jublee hills lands were purchased at Rs 105 per acre. Total acres 1400. All Telanganites living in that area were thrown out, jublee hills housing society did not have a single Telanganite.

40) Panchayat Raj divisions – Andhra (9 dist) 883, Rayalaseema (4 dist) 342,Telangana (10 dist) 295.

41) Most backward district in AP is Mahabubnagar, was granted 4% white ration cards. Most developed dist in AP is West Godavari dist was given 7% white ration cards.

42) 100% power of Vizag thermal (simhadri) is being used for Andhra only, but 27% power of Ramagundam is being used for A.P.

43) 82% of farmers are depending on private loans in Telangana

44) If development was the justification for keeping an alien ruler in place, India should have never been free from British rule !

45) There was no single drop of water in Palanadu 350yrs ago, it was like a desert. Now, entire Telangana canal irrigation land is less than Guntur dist alone.

46) Rs 60 crores of surplus budget was the pride of Telangana in 1948. When Andhra state was formed – it had only 1 Crore in hand given by Madras govt, and Shri Raj Gopalachari said ‘Get lost from here’.

47) Dr.B.R.Ambedkar suggested Hyderabad second capitol of India. He said
Hyderabad is better than Delhi.

48) Government buys sugar cane from farmers (per quintal) in Andhra – Rs 1200, Telangana –Rs 890 Andhra lands are canal cultivated – Telangana depend on bore wells.

49) Andhrites converted Telangana -WAKF lands in to revenue lands in the era of real-estate boom, Lanco is main culprit in this, remember Muslim brothers shouted ‘go back’ at Lagadapati ?

50) 150 forts are about to ruin in the Telangana which were built by various dynasties. They are symbols of great cultural heritage.

51) Hyd Central University is filled with Andhraits – every Central University in India has 60% reserved for local region. Except HCU.

52) Pranahita project, there is no staff, no sufficient funding, don’t even have proper office, but Andhra ruler says project will be completed 4yrs

53) There are never any difficulties in construction of irrigation projects in Andhra. But why irregularities, corruption, delays in Telangana projects?

54) Mahabubnagar 35lakhs population, migration 14 lakhs, 350km of Krishna stretch, there is no drinking water or irrigation water.

55) How many JNTU colleges should be there in 10 dist of Telangana, if 2 are in 4 districts of Rayalaseema ?

56) AP dairy buys milk from farmers from Andhra Rs 24.30, Telangana Rs 22.30

57) 450 tribal villages, millions of tons of limestone, rich minerals, lot of natural biodiversity…are going to submerge if Polavaram project is built

58) Telangana is bigger than 24 states. Total official countries in the world are 194. Telangana will be bigger than 160 countries.

59) Seemandhra revenue 38.5% - Expenditure 49%, Telangana revenue 61.5% Expenditure 51%

60) Jallianwala bagh, General Dyer, 1919 yr - 379 shot dead. Telangana, Kasu Brahmananda Reddy, 1969 - 370 students shot dead.

61) WHO declared Nalgonda dist affected with fluorisis so much that it is moving towards No Man Zone.

62) While merging with Andhra leaders agreed to continue Mulki rules in Telangana. As per this 100% employees in Telangana should be from Telangana only.

63) Nizam formulated mulki rules in 1919, a person to get job in they must be Telangana from 15yrs,but now Andhra rulers reduced the period to 4yrs.

64) Seemandhrites got 28000 jobs in Telangana by getting bogus mulki certificates between 1956-1968. Between 1975 to 1985 again 58000 by violating presidential order.

65) In 1969 students/employees agitated against 28000 jobs by Andhra. Andhra rulers killed 370 students.

66) In 1972, Andhra rulers managed to cancel supreme court judgment by parliament, then 6 point formula was introduced for jobs. As per this formula Telangana split into zone 5, zone 6.

67) As per presidential order Telangana people should get reservation 80% dist posts,70% zonal posts, 60% Gazetted posts. Remaining 20%,30%,40% shall be open to other regions – what’s happening now ?

68) In 1985, 610 GO for transfer of 58000 employs from Telangana, but this GO is never implemented. That too 610 GO is restricted to 102 departments only, out of 250 govt departments.

69) In 2001, Chandra Babu Naidu (CM) appointed Girglani Commission which submitted report in 2004, that 2 lakh Seemandhra employs are working in Telangana.

70) Only 23% Singareni coal is used in Telangana. Remaining 77% is being drained out to other places.

71) Per Capita Funds allocation to Student in universities.
SV University - Rs. 37500, Andhra University - Rs 35500 SK University - Rs 25000, Nagarjuna University - Rs 22700
OU - Rs 17400, K.U - Rs 14000

72) Cultivation land (Lakh Acres) Before 1956, Andhra 30.65, Telangana 18.20 In 2004, Andhra 69.27, Telangana 18.00

73) Andhrites love for Hyd is like Pakistan’s love for Kashmir. They are ready to go to any extent to capture it.

74) Kothagudem thermal power station sabotaged on purpose to obtain repair contracts to Andhra contractors in 1978, this is confirmed in single man commission (Sundar Ramaiah commission – 1979)

75) All APSEB scams occurred so far at high level in board are targeted towards Telangana power supply and distribution, never to Andhra or Rayalaseema region. Higher officials found guilty by Vimal Lal commission, the recommendation were never implemented.

76) Technically it is possible to develop water grid to benefit Telangana, Rayalaseema and Andhra regions – it would match in comparison with Mississippi river water system (USA), Three Gorges river system (China),Nile river (Aswan dam) Africa and Rhine river system Europe. Similar models were conceived by intellectuals but are trashed by Andhra rulers and pseudo intellectuals because they will benefit Telangana.

77) 1969 - after Jai Telangana movement 'All Party Accord' was formulated, scrapped within 6 months. Than 8-point formula, 5-point formula were announced. then supreme court upheld Mulki rules. Andhra elites could not digest it, launched Jai Andhra movement. Central govt yielded as usual to elites tactics, then 6-point formula. Even this is being violated royally many times, robbing Telangana its rightfulness.

78) Nagarjuna Sagar initially meant to benefit Andhra and Telangana. Later on it is modified in such a way that 75% of the benefit is accruing to Andhra reducing the share of Telangana region to just 25%. Andhra settlers own 50% of these 25% utilization lands.

79) Singur project was originally designed to meet primarily the irrigation needs of Medak and Nizamabad districts. But it is now solely used for meeting the requirements of capital city.

80) Jurala Project which is the first project on river Krishna meant for Telangana,
is the smallest of all the projects built on this river. The Bachawat Tribunal allocated just 17.5 TMC ft. water for this project, and the state government reduced its storage capacity to 60% ft. But the actual utilization so far has not been more than 10%

81) Rajolibanda Diversion Scheme, was to irrigate 87500 acres in Mahabubnagar. The Bachawat Tribunal also allocated 15.90 TMC ft. of water for this project. This water has to pass through a canal in Raichur district of Karnataka State. After the formation of Andhra Pradesh landlords of Rayalaseema blasted the gates with bombs and diverted water to their land. Since then Govt never even tried to reconstruct the gates.

82) Devadula Project, provides water for 5 lakh acres, was promised to be finished in 5 yrs in 2001, yet to begin work. The funniest fact is, Sriram sagar is yet to be completed for last 40 yrs which provides water for just 4 lakh acres. Telangana people are supposed to believe the promise.

83) Two major projects proposed on river Godavari are Ichampally and Polavaram. Ichampally is meant for Telangana and Polavaram for Andhra.The irrigation potential of Polavaram Project would be 6 to 7 times more than the irrigation potential of Ichampally. Ichampally is going to be primarily a power project not a irrigation project !

84) Andhra lands are irrigated by canal irrigation i.e. with tax payer’s money. Andhra farmer pays Rs 200 - 300 per annum as water charges. Telangana lands are irrigated by bore wells, entire cost is on the farmer . Digging, power, bore well, motor, pipes. He struggles with fluctuations in power supplies with irregularities and pathetic power distribution pattern in Telangana.

85) Technological University was actually started in Warangal but was shifted to Hyderabad, Open University was originally Nalgonda district but was later shifted Hyd. The same state level universities University of Health Sciences, Mahila University and the University of Dravidian Languages were allowed to stay in Seemandhra - not moved to Capital city.

86) Twelve milk chilling plants established by the erstwhile Telangana Regional Committee in different parts of Telangana have been abruptly closed down showing lack of funds as a reason.

87) Ramagundam is in heart of coal belt … Fertilizer plant is closed showing areas on as poor quality of coal. NTPC is running with same coal, VTPS is running with same coal. Subsequently, Fertilizer plants are started in Nellore and Andhra.

88) Based on the proportionality at least 40% of jobs, i.e. 6 lakhs, should have gone to Telangana. But the total number of jobs now occupied by them is less than 3 lakhs.

89) 1972, PV Narasimha Rao made an attempt to implement the verdict of Supreme Court validating the Mulki Rules. The verdict was in favor of Telangana. Seemandhra gave outrageous reaction, he lost his Chief Ministership. 91) Daily wage workers working in industries – from Andhra (9 districts) 3.16 lakhs, from Rayalaseema (4 districts)– 0.7 lakhs, Telangana (10 district) 0.81 lakhs.

92) Andhra controlled media never highlighted migration of 15 lakh people out of 24lakh population from Mahabubnagar due to draught conditions. T. Anjaiah CM of AP from Telangana region was presented as a buffoon in dailies and cartoons.

93) At the time of merger Andhra leaders persuaded Telangana leaders by offering many safeguards against exploitation. They also passed a Unanimous Resolution’ in November 1955 in Andhra Assembly in support of safeguards and subsequently they put these safeguards in an Agreement on 20th February. 1956 which is known as “Gentlemen’s Agreement”. All are trashed soon after the agreement is signed.

94) Proportional representation says Telangana should get 42% jobs in the Secretariat, but only 9% are working now. How can a people representative, MLA, MLC can get a work done if 91% do not help ?

95) Metro Rail project is being designed dilapidating 5000 shops, 2500 houses,147 schools, 120 hospitals, 60 Temples/Masjid/Churches. Historical monuments will disappear. All shops and complexes throughout Metro rail route are with Seemandhra thugs.

96) 1947 India got Independence. 1948 Indian Army did police action to dethrone Nizam. Hyd state existed from 1949 to 1956. Telangana merged with Andhra against its wishes in1956. Telangana has nothing to do with Potti Sriramulu.

97) Telangana Sayudha Poratam, (Telangana armed struggle) was against Nizam facist rule, 4000 people died - inspired all subsequent land movements in West Bengal, Kerala and Tripura and paved way for formation of Communist governments in those States. This is never acknowledged by Seemandhra rulers so far.

98) Despite 69% Krishna, 79% Godavari flows through Telangana, irrigation cost is Rs.1500/acre. 13% of Krishna, 21% Godavari flows through Andhra irrigation cost is Rs.150/acre.

99) Per capita income of Madhya Pradesh: Rs 18,051. Chattisgarh formed in 2000. Per capita income of Chhattisgarh in 2008-09 - Rs. 29,621. Recently formed smaller states are catching up with Haryana is 71%, Himachal is 81% and Uttarakhand is 75% - now Jharkhand 58%, Chhattisgarh 63%. Also, Infant mortality UP 67%, Uttarakhand 44%.

100) year 2008 Targeted growth rate & achieved: bigger states: MP 7% - 4.3%; UP 7.6% - 4.6%; Bihar 6.2% 4.7% smaller states: Chhattisgarh 6.1% - 9.2%; Jharkhand 6.9% - 11.1% Uttaranchal 6.8% - 8.8%

101) Since 1956 to date, the additional irrigation potential created in Telangana is only 5%

102) There are 10,000+ Industrial units in Telangana, 1200 are owned by Telanganites, 6500 are owned by Seemandhra, rest are by outsiders.

103) Proportionally Telangana should be given about 43% in budget allocation, Since 1953, it never exceeded 30%. Yet Telangana contributes 42% of revenue to the state exchequer.

104) Nizamsagar was built in 1931 to serve Nizamabad and Medak about 2.7 lakh acres of land. It was neglected for maintenance and improvements, now satellite images prove that all its 83 tributaries, 243 distributaries have been silted up and eroded. World bank sanctioned 30 crores for the project, which was never spent. The project now going to be almost useless.

105) In Andhra region every year two crops are cultivated because of water availability, in Telangana a single crop will be cultivated with great difficulty.

106) Technical institutions wise, 26 are in Telangana, 54 are in Andhra. 20 polytechnics in Telangana, 70 in Andhra. 2 Medical colleges in Telangana, 6 in Andhra.

107) British build Railways, Administrative Services, Post and Telegraph, installed democratic institutions, judiciary, rule of law, and built the cities of Kolkata, Mumbai and Chennai, and New Delhi. British did not claim any of these when they had to leave India. Seemandhra are making big hue and cry clamoring for Hyderabad claiming they have built the city. In 400 yrs of Hyderabad history, how many years did they contribute the 'development' ?

108) Hyderabad - demographic expansion can never be considered as a development. It’s natural growth. It is like a girl who is 10 yrs now will attain 15yrs of age after 5 yrs – can we call it development ? Also, its not just Hyd which is developed … all big/medium cities in India are in development path.

Well this is the best anwer for all the critics against Telengana.
You are speaking about the Policiticians corrupted practices, but Tell about the rule played by the Andhra politicians.
Who has become millionaire after migrating to the city and grabbing and dealing lands of city and now MP? It is quite Obvious.
Yes ofcourse it is evident that the politicians of the Telengana had been lured and misguided by the dominating politicians.
The Quoted Statistics are self explanatory than just presenting the superficial facts and singing the tune of Telengana Politician's Deeds.
Speak about the Andhra Lobby and Speak about their Domination in all walks of life where Telenganites have been minimised to A Grade IV employees and workers.
Analyse the domination of Other region employees in law and order forces, Analyse the domination of Andhrites in top order in the Law and Order department.
Just analyse how the OU students were treated like criminals for protest and provoked and and terrorized. Was this done in Andhra region after 9 December 2009? Was the goverment was so Strict on those Demonstrators?where a lot of Public property was Ransacked and burnt.
just see the attrocities commited on Telengana Students during the Demonstrations and still m any of them being rounded up for taking part in the agitation.
if you want to blame then blame on all parties not at the single side of the situation region.

You have forgotten the Pacts Gentleman Pact 1956 and the Fazal Ali commission.
Telenganites never ever agreed to the Unification of the state and Noting this FAzal Ali commission had predicted the later SET BACKS of unification and we are observing this after 46 years.
Even Pandit Nerhu had too Qouted that "The marriage is being conducted between an innocent Bride and the CUNNING Groom" HE too had the reservations about the unification.
And what KCR had done the FAST then now body had told the same about the Putti Sri Ramulu? ! ! ! !
and for the death of just one man immediatly the Unification was carried out and on ther other side Hundreds of Telenganite sacrificed their lives since then and there was no reaction to it by center. --- THis what a Clear domination of the Andhra Lobby was that time and this time to the lobby was successfull.
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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state?

by Truefacts » Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:31 pm

The Facts quoted above, can still andhrites deny these Statistics??
HAI KOI JAWAB ? :?:

JAI TELENGANA ! !! !
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United Andhra Pradesh by Telangana People

by VChangeU » Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:49 am

The info posted here will not bring us a separate state and it will not even work as a justification.

Even after formation of Telangana state we will be blaming the same politicians for developments.

I’m from Mahabubnagar district (Telangana Region) but I don’t want witness any more bifurcation of states in India, we are happy to be a part of United Andhra Pradesh.
There is no need of separate state as “Telangana”, few political party leaders are demanding separate state for their individual gain.

As a common man we never ever wished to separate from AP. Yes Telangana region needs a development agenda, a stronger voice in decision making, a better share of state revenues, implementation of old unkept promises but not at the cost of separation.

A separate Telangana can slow down, perhaps even halt the entire development process. We will witness more worst situation in Telangana region if divided from AP.

Every one know's why the people of Telangana region are not progressing as much as Andhra & Rayalaseema people, most of the people in Telangana region want to live within the box.
They just depend on Govt. jobs and never explore their thinking beyond boundaries.

Even the business people from Telangana region restrict their business to local market, they never expand to any other regions and even to Hyderabad city unlike the Andhra people.

Most of the youth are dependent on their parents job (Voluntary Retirements), they never try to look for better opportunities.

Check out in entire AP more than 90% of Educational Institutes are started by Andhra people...no body stopped us in starting a school/college/institute in Telangana by our own telangana people...

Also the Shopping Malls and Business centers are run by Andhra people...they are experienced and they have the right road map for the success unlike Telangana people.

Most of the Telangana people have limited thinking and they blame others for nothing.

Kindly stop crying on others progress and help in building up right leaders in Telangana for better future to our future generations...
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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state?

by z hyderabad » Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:14 pm

Britisher were Businessmen too ! ! They Came -- They Settled --- They Occupied -- They Ruled ! !!
Result = 200 Years of Slavery ! ! !
History getting repeated ! ! !
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Say No to Telangana !!!!!!

by VChangeU » Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:46 am

Yes Britisher's ruled for long time in India and they have done plenty of developments across the country apart from the slavery what you are talking about.

Anyways we are confident that the result of Sri Krishna Committee will be united AP.

Soon we are going to have a United AP campaign in Telangana Districts....Beware!!!!!!

The movement will be organised by Telangana People....
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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state?

by ElectricGoat » Fri Apr 09, 2010 10:24 am

Whatever all of you telangana supporters say. Can you give 100% assurance that the situation will change if Telangana is formed? It will mostly be a Naxal Rule. I cant say Naxals are bad. But you never know. If Telangana people think they're sure that everything will change after forming the state, may be they can form the state.
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United Andhra Pradesh by Telangana People

by VChangeU » Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:31 am

No Telangana Supporters can give even 10% assurance that the situation will change if Telangana is formed?
The situations in Telangana region will be worst if the state is formed !!!!!

The result of Sri Krishna Committee will be United AP.
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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state?

by Ishta » Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:20 pm

I don't think separate Telanga state is required, this are all silly politics of politicians of Andhra Pradesh and I blame Congress government for this mess. After the sad incident of YSR death there where many problems created by nature and politicians and for which congress government haven't responded well and done nothing cleverly, I blame them for this.

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We want United Andhra Pradesh

by VChangeU » Fri Apr 09, 2010 4:38 pm

Telangana agitation is reckoned to be handiwork of jobless politicians, they have no value within their party.
Telangana supporting leaders want to win the race of CM & Cabinet positions rather than developments in the state.

If they are so concerned about the Telangana people and the developments in the region, they should work out a development agenda and fight for the same rather than demanding for separate state.

even congress has played a blunder game in 2004 taking the support of Telangana Party for their survival, else the Telangana Part might have taken their last breath by now.....

more info @ http://vchangeu.com/united_ap.html
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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state?

by khan » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:17 am

i am a muslim women and i whole heartedly want the andhra to get seperated so as to survive freely.i am much tense about my childrens and about our state.i don't want my children to be under andhra rule as british rule.andhra has became a new launched religion in a.p .
so plz take quick decision and safe our lives from andhra people.
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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state?yes as soon.

by taffu » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:25 am

jai telangana.jai jai telanga small children are begging for their future.plz have some mersy on them.
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United Adndhra Pradesh for Ever

by VChangeU » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:07 pm

I know why the people of Telangana region are not progressing as much as Andhra & Rayalaseema people, most of the people in Telangana region want to live within the box.

They just depend on Govt. jobs and never explore their thinking beyond boundaries.
Even the business people from Telangana region restrict their business to local market, they never expand to any other regions and even to Hyderabad city unlike the Andhra people.

Most of the youth are dependent on their parents job (Voluntary Retirements), they never try to look for better opportunities.

Please stop crying on others progress....try to live independently we are living in Independent India.

A separate Telangana can slow down, perhaps even halt the entire development process.
We will witness worst situation in Telangana region if divided from AP.

We believe that we are better off being a part of Andhra Pradesh itself. We want to stay united to fight the divisive forces to stay abreast the changing world and stand firm to protect the posterity of Telanganites.

Say No to Telangana !!!!!

Unity Wins the race.......
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Telangana people deserve Telengana as seperate state

by Telangana people deserve Telengana as se » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:07 pm

I can be an example of a true citizen of Andhra pradesh , My father is from Telengana and my mother is from Andhra region.

In my child hood, i used to visit both the places, there is a lot of culture differences, different styles of living. I used to wonder why there were such huge differences, even in the food style there is a difference. But when i grow up i understood the regional differences.

Telengana people were badly neglected, there were no proper infrastructure in place for the development of this region. So many people say why the state should be seperated ? in my view it is very simple, two brothers live separately they can enjoy their lives with their own desired wishes. They can purchase what ever they want, they can lead their life individually. So in the state division also this is very much imminent.

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VChangeU wrote:A separate state is no solution to its genuine problems. I’m from MahabubNagar District and would like to support United Andhra Pradesh.

Please stand for the United AP.

The longer the uncertainty about the future of the state, the greater the damage it would do to the state's economy.
Hyderabad, India's fifth-largest metropolitan centre and one of the most cosmopolitan cities that has witnessed unprecedented economic development in the past decade, has already suffered for no fault of its own citizens.
Let’s play our role by sending opinion & views to the Sri Krishna committee:

Email : vkduggal.ccsap@mha.gov.in

Your requests should reach by 10-April-2010, Send your opinions and views at the earliest.
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Telangana people deserve United AP

by VChangeU » Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:26 pm

Don't behave like a child anymore.....grow up...even there will 1000 differences within Telangana region if you look out. In-fact there will be many differences within a single family....Its not the problem of any individual person/family....its the issue of the nation.

Even I'm from Telangana Region...I have visited almost every part of Andhra Pradesh....Telangana people are acting bit more than what is required now for the region to develop ..

A separate state is no solution to its genuine problems.

Together we can progress better.....Unity wins the race...

The end result of Sri krishna Committee will be United AP, since people from all the regions want United AP.

Telangana people deserve Telengana as se wrote:I can be an example of a true citizen of Andhra pradesh , My father is from Telengana and my mother is from Andhra region.

In my child hood, i used to visit both the places, there is a lot of culture differences, different styles of living. I used to wonder why there were such huge differences, even in the food style there is a difference. But when i grow up i understood the regional differences.

Telengana people were badly neglected, there were no proper infrastructure in place for the development of this region. So many people say why the state should be seperated ? in my view it is very simple, two brothers live separately they can enjoy their lives with their own desired wishes. They can purchase what ever they want, they can lead their life individually. So in the state division also this is very much imminent.

Cheers., LS











VChangeU wrote:A separate state is no solution to its genuine problems. I’m from MahabubNagar District and would like to support United Andhra Pradesh.

Please stand for the United AP.

The longer the uncertainty about the future of the state, the greater the damage it would do to the state's economy.
Hyderabad, India's fifth-largest metropolitan centre and one of the most cosmopolitan cities that has witnessed unprecedented economic development in the past decade, has already suffered for no fault of its own citizens.
Let’s play our role by sending opinion & views to the Sri Krishna committee:

Email : vkduggal.ccsap@mha.gov.in

Your requests should reach by 10-April-2010, Send your opinions and views at the earliest.
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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state?

by Bahbood A.Khan » Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:52 pm

NO! because I foresee Telangana region will become more backward and will witness the law of diminishing opportunities. There will be more sucide incidents than that of misguided people currently commiting sucide for Telangana State.

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We Want United Andhra Pradesh

by VChangeU » Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:41 pm

Well said Bahboob Khan, we should stay united for better progress and development of the state.

bakhan wrote:NO! because I foresee Telangana region will become more backward and will witness the law of diminishing opportunities. There will be more sucide incidents than that of misguided people currently commiting sucide for Telangana State.

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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state?

by raghu » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:26 pm

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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state?

by kisari » Sat May 29, 2010 9:11 am

the way it will happened in telangana now. It is so nondemocratic.

The person who was a people leader holding a gun in hand shooting the public this is not a democracy
It show how the government was rolling in the state.

some has to take responsible form the government to give such a punishments for the people who was
tell us them self a leader and doing violences in public like holding the gun.
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Re: Do you want a separate Telangana state?

by kisari » Sat May 29, 2010 9:17 am

khan wrote:i am a muslim women and i whole heartedly want the andhra to get seperated so as to survive freely.i am much tense about my childrens and about our state.i don't want my children to be under andhra rule as british rule.andhra has became a new launched religion in a.p .
so plz take quick decision and safe our lives from andhra people.


exactly the way you have told is write

the polititions are not even taking a such a minor responsibility's for people of telangana
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