What's the deal with attendance anyway?

[Lucifer]

Was wondering if we have discussed this issue on these boards. Even if we have, we can discuss it some more.



I have never understood the deal behind marking students' attendances at the undergrad level. Upto school (includes 10+2 as well), yes, it is important. But I believe after that we all have to take responsibilities for our own actions.



The place I did my engineering from does not have the concept of attendance. The students seem to do quite alright. Some of them have been the likes of guys behind hotmail and Amkette floppies.



What that place gave us was space, and I think it is that space that helped us grow. Yes, it was misused - freedom tends to be misused. But those who used it well graduated as well-developed human beings.



Thoughts?

[ycr007]

As long as there ain't stringent rules such as sit-in-exams-only-if-75%-attendance,it is okay.In case of schools where they've prizes for 100% attendance,it should act as a motivation for students and not be a PITA.

[mark]

in irish uni's we don't have this concept, if you don't come in at all but pass the exams, then all's well.. as long as ya do the coursework too of course.



seems to promote a more mature attitude towards college, you set your own pace, and if you want to do really well there are lots of classes you'd be better off skipping and spending in the library anyway.. i know many excellent students that went to hardly any lectures in their final year, spent most of their time working on their final year projects or studying..

[Sachin]

Was wondering if we have discussed this issue on these boards. Even if we have, we can discuss it some more.

I have never understood the deal behind marking students' attendances at the undergrad level. Upto school (includes 10+2 as well), yes, it is important. But I believe after that we all have to take responsibilities for our own actions.

The place I did my engineering from does not have the concept of attendance. The students seem to do quite alright. Some of them have been the likes of guys behind hotmail and Amkette floppies.

What that place gave us was space, and I think it is that space that helped us grow. Yes, it was misused - freedom tends to be misused. But those who used it well graduated as well-developed human beings.

Thoughts?

My college had such restrictions and I used to hate that!!!! If you are wise engh to select the leader of the country at 18.... thn do u really need such restrictions at that age???? Doesnt make sense to me.... Yes there are chances that it ll be misused but as they say every coin has 2 sides....

[lizardking]

I come from a college which was an inspiration to many film makers (more in the likes of RGV), so damn....the principal thought that we did have a need for compulsary attendance.



On record, i have nt attended more than 5 chemistry lectures in the first year and half of my 3 year undergrad days. I just hate chemistry, and indian education system was not so flexible as yet that we could choose to omit what we were nt interested in, or what does nt really get you going, but at the time, all i thought was that i did nt like chemistry and did nt attend the classes, without any foresight into my future that i cannot really do much of molecular biology without knowledge of chemistry, and the compulsary attendance in the last 3 semesters of my undergraddays are helping me a lot today, having an upper hand over the others, which i did nt realise then (never scored more than 50% in the exams). well, as such those boring lectures nurtured the artist in me, i am glad.

[cowboy]

For me, it's 85% attendance mandatory

75% - 84% - Lose a grade

65% - 74% - Lose 2 grades

< 65% - Fail



Now, that sucks.

[HH]

Remember S M D Approach For Learning & Earning Wisdom:

- Sravanam ... Listening ... Possible Only By ATTENDANCE! ... 100 % Attendance ... Ensures 60% Learning ... Not Less Than 60 % Marks!



-Mananam ... Repeting / Reviewing ... Ensures Remembering ... Adds At Least 20 % To Your Score!



-Dhyanam ... Minding ... Recalling ... After Some Time ... YOU'LL REMEMBER FOREVER!



ENJOY HAPPY LEARNING & WISDOM!

[akhilis2cool]

In most of the colleges in u can make patao with the lecturer and make sure ur marked for the minimum number of days required. Having said that, I missed only abt 5-6 lectures during my PG

[KK]

I cud get away with proxy most of times

[cowboy]

Remember S M D Approach For Learning & Earning Wisdom:
- Sravanam ... Listening ... Possible Only By ATTENDANCE! ... 100 % Attendance ... Ensures 60% Learning ... Not Less Than 60 % Marks!

-Mananam ... Repeting / Reviewing ... Ensures Remembering ... Adds At Least 20 % To Your Score!

-Dhyanam ... Minding ... Recalling ... After Some Time ... YOU'LL REMEMBER FOREVER!

ENJOY HAPPY LEARNING & WISDOM!

I attended almost all classes last sem. Listening in class helps at times.

[HH]

...
I attended *****almost all classes last sem. Listening in class helps at times.

***** Thank You, "cowboy" ... Attendance Allows Listening Which Helps To Get You FIRST CLASS Marks ... Further Effort & Interest Help Improve Performance ... WITHOUT Listening ... Effort & Interest May Not Be Possible ... Wish You All The BEST!

[spamtaneous]

attending classes doesnt help...listening to them helps ...and this combination occurs rarely for the likes of me.... ......i didnot attend 90% of my classes in my 1st yr and 4th yr.....where the class strength was huge and proxy was easy..... surprisingly i was in bottom 20% in my 1st yr and in top 20% in my 4th yr....

[black wizard]

I attended almost all classes last sem. Listening in class helps at times.

True attending classes helps. But what about attending lectures that make people go to sleep. Ho man we have this lecturer in college. Looking at her makes people sleepy. She always looks sleepy. People call her "Neend ki goli" now.

[labelle]

attending classes and going to college are two different things! . why do ppl dont attend classes? as BW said that some of the lecturers are so sloppy and sleepy that u need extra energy to concentrate on what they are saying but if the lecturer is energetic and enthusiastic and loves the subject he/she teaches then the attendance in the class never dwindles. these days lecuterers see teaching as a just a source of earning. i still remember the person who taught gentics, cell biology and endocrinology in college he had tremendous passion for the subject and we used to love his classes. if the teaching method involvs students and the proper communication rather than just passing on information then we can learn a lot of things. the education system needs a see change where it involve more of projects and things that have relevance with practical life!

[HH]

... we have this lecturer***** in college....

... some of the lecturers***** are so sloppy and sleepy ... these days lecuterers see teaching as a just a source of earning. i still remember the person who taught gentics, cell biology and endocrinology in college he had tremendous passion for the subject and we used to love his classes. if the teaching method involvs students and the proper communication rather than just passing on information then we can learn***** a lot of things. ...

***** Proper Lecturers / Learning ... The System Is Rotten ... No Full Time Lecturers ... Mostly Part-Time Lecturers ... Paid By The Hour / Lecture, May Be Rs 100 (On The Higher Side) ... Even Full Time Lecturers Should Create Interest In The Subject ... Then The Students May Learn On Their Own!

[3 T'z]

The compulsary attendence concept seemz pretty childish when itz bein implemented upon 18+yr oldz-- ..Adultz!

In my coll if ur attendence is below a specified range..u gotta pay up..n in few cases r probably detained as well.. irrespective of how good or bad they perform in the internalz.

Itz easier to do wid proxy in 1st yr..but after dat all the lecturerz r familiar wid ur face..itz hard 2 get away..

If ur actually interested in listenin 2 da lecturez then it probably helpz..bt nt when we'r goin just for da sake of formality..

At this age ppl r mature enough to understand..whtz good or wrong for em..no point in forcin em 2 attend classes.. spl when some of em r soooo damn borin..n useless..

[KK]

certainly attending classes help, thanks to my univ, they record the classes and upload online... I watch all the classes before the exam

[HH]

certainly attending classes help*****

***** Helps Learning ... The Ideal Method Requires Prior Study Of The Subject Before The Lecture ... This Stimulates Interest ... Helps Better Appreciation ... Greater Comprehension ... However, Mostly ATTENDANCE May Be Possible ... DO ATTEND ... To Do Justice To What You Have Paid ... Consequent Interest & Subsequent Effort Enhances Learning & Ensures SUCCESS In Studies.

[rock_26iin]

Abandon college!! Let's all become beggars!!

[Lucifer]

Well, since we are on the topic of lecturers here are my two paise.



Of the 42 courses I did to graduate, I attended classes of three religiously. One of them was a course on Technical Report Writing. I loved that course, and hence I attended the lectures. Then there was one on advertising. The professor was hot. Thus, the incentive.



But this one takes the cake. The third one was Process Control. Beautiful course. However, I attended all the 44 lectures of this course because I was the only one enrolled in it that semester. Kind of a weird situation to have. Was fun though. The prof was fantastic as well, but that is just the secondary reason.



So basically, I attended those three classes regularly not because of the ability of the profs to teach. Case closed.

[Sachin]

Yea I guess the lecturers body language does not make much of a diff. Its purely out of your interest that you choose to attend a lecture or not. Yeah prof might influence you esp if she is hotttt!!!!

Regarding me prof was never an influence I rarely missed my math lectures in Engg as i used to enjoy them.... I had a cpla management courses too which I used to attend regularly....

[kk]

Abandon college!! Let's all become beggars!!

No wonder I agree with the quote "I was born smart, Education ruined me"

[lizardking]

why dont we shut all the emain stream universities and start online classea and distance education, looks like there is less need of lectures day by day.

[akhilis2cool]

not a bad idea...but then not all teachers are bad....what abt the good teachers...unka kya hoga?