Watch out....else one day men have to fight for Rights !!

[Truth]

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India Men are commiting Suicide due to domestic harassment. See, suicide statistics below.....



This is a call for all humans to get united and stand up against a massive Feminazi conspiracy which is forcing the Indian Government towards implementation of very draconian laws biased against men. If implemented, the fundamental rights of men would be in full danger. The right to legal defense, the right to free speech and the right to liberty would be in serious danger. India is no United States where justice is delivered very fast. If you get into a false complaint of any kind of harassment to a female, then your life would be simply ruined as the case can go on for years.



Various “party animals” populate the militant Feminist lobbies. These are high society females who need attention and publicity. They also need free foreign trips. Their funds/charities run to crores of rupees. With that money from vested interests, they are working towards sweeping modifications in legal procedures in India, which if implemented will simply ruin lives of men (also women!!) and of course on long run destroy the complete society. Many of these feminazies are females who destroyed their marriages and are just sub-consciously jealous of the good married lives of other women. Many even go to the extent of organizing seminars in schools in big cities and indulge in male-bashing there with statements like “We got out of our marriage, so can you in future.”



Nowadays, it has become a fashion to indulge in “male-bashing”. Recently, Miss World Diana Heyden made a press statement: “Every second Indian male has been leading an adulterous life since time immemorial.” When contacted by press, Hayden forcefully declared, “I completely stand by my own statement; I have spoken the truth. In fact, if you ask an average Indian male (to comment on my observation), he would tend to agree with me.” Imagine, a male Indian actor making similar sexist slur against women and the consequences.



Things already are in a very dismal state for Indian Males. The cruelty/dowry law (called dreaded 498a) is so biased against men that “if you cancel your arranged marriage due to any reason you can be booked for dowry harassment.” The police needs only one line complaint from the women or her parents and they are supposed to act immediately by arresting you and as many of your relatives (of course including your unmarried sisters and grandmothers). The domestic violence bill, if passed in parliament will simply increase the already high male suicide rate at least three folds. This bill just does not recognize that a man can also go through physical or mental cruelty by his wife. Feminists are just seeking the blood of all men. In all these women related cases, a man will be considered guilty till he proves his innocence in court. Certainly, there is no penalty for filing the false cases (if the complainant is a woman). The woman can even get away (without getting convicted of perjury and contempt of court) when it is proved beyond doubt that they lied under oath.



Suicide rates in India:

National Suicide rate is: 11 people per 100,000



For males in the age group of 30 to 44, the Suicide rate is a whopping 508 per 100,000 persons; for women it is 220. The Suicide rates among men in the age group of 45 to 59 is a shocking 1,812 per 100,000 persons and among women, nearly 550. So much more people are dying due to SOWRY harassment than the DOWRY harassment.

However, among divorced males the suicide rate is 164 per 100,000 persons, but even in this class, among females the rate is only 63 per 100,000. While the suicide rate for separated men is about 167, for females it is only 41 per 100,000 persons.

[Helping Men]

Since last one year, there is a Helpline (91-80-56969850) in Bangalore for distressed men and their family members. It receives about 20 calls in a week from the men who are distressed due to harassment by the wife or her parents. The callers include many techies working in reputed firms and NRIs(Nonresident Indians/Indians living outside india). As soon as someone calls the helpline, his complaint is heard and he is called for a face-to-face discussion during which a lawyer and a counsellor are present.

The NGO(non-Government Organisation) called Sangyabalya and the helpline were launched by H V Arun Murthy, a freelance writer originally from Bangalore, who was living happily in Delhi until he was summoned by a court as an accused in a dowry case filed by his sister-in-law. Murthy says his brother married a girl from an orphanage. The marriage went bad very fast and has now ended in a dowry harassment complaint that put Murthy, his brother, and some other family members in jail for a short period.

"Who could have paid dowry for that girl? The orphanage authorities?" demands an angry, white-haired, single Murthy.

"The courts are always sympathetic to women," he told rediff.com "Even our laws do not recognise the possibility of wives and daughters-in-laws ill-treating husbands and old in-laws. I know of so many cases where section 498-A [of the Indian Penal Code] has just been used as an instrument of blackmail. But public sympathy is all for the perpetrators of the crime. More than 90 per cent of dowry cases filed are dismissed. But no punitive action is taken against the women who file the cases, even though it is sometimes proved that they lied under oath."

Under the Indian Penal Code of 498a, the police only require one line in writing from a woman, that her husband/his parents/his brothers/sisters are harassing her physically or mentally with demands of dowry. It is as easy as ordering a Pizza. The Police are bound to act by arresting all the accused (including mothers, unmarried sisters) with immediate effect without investigation, send them to Judicial Custody (prison) . This has led to a growing trend of women and her dominant parents harassing the husband and her family and then threatening them of the false complaints in case they resist. So the poor guy and his family tolerate fearing the worst. As this continues, the demands start increasing finally leading to situation when the battered husband and his family could no longer tolerate and they stand up. Then the woman goes for the final kill by filing the case. The imprisoned husband and his family can’t get bail for at least 2 days. If the girl’s family has good connections in corrupt indiansystem then the stay in prison can continue for even a month. Often, huge amounts of money is demanded from the guy and his parents for out of court settlements. Many Techies and NRIs in a state of continuous, iterative victimization and defamation, simply comply.

Sangyabalya can be contacted at 91-80-56969850. Their email address is victimsof498a@rediffmail.com.



Visit http://www.sangyabalya.org



For more details visit the following link and also view the full message board.

http://www.rediff.com/news/2003/dec/24spec.htm



Other articles:

http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/jun16/c3.asp http://www.hallabol.com/portal/article4.html

http://news.indiainfo.com/publicopinion/dowry.html

http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/users/sawweb/ ... ews408.txt

there is also yagoogroup: misusedowryact

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http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/6708/sowryhar.html

[Mayavi Morpheus]

Cheppinde cheppara, paachi palla daasara...

how many times will u post the same shit?

[solosynergy]

its very rare that u would see men in distress and whenever that happens its something that does require a lotta publicity.maybe the redundancy should be overlooked

[Lucifer]

There seems to be a lot of truth in the domestic harassment of men. I remember reading a column of Shobha De on the issue a couple of years ago. Not that I consider her any authority but if a feminist like her can say something like this there surely has to be some truth in the whole affair.

[male_bashing]

http://newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID ... a&Topic=0&



Wives beware! Victimised husbands unite to protect themselves

Thursday September 9 2004 16:59 IST

IANS





HYDERABAD: The story is usually the other way round. But now several "victimised husbands" have come together to protect themselves from their wives!



Bhaarya Baadhitula Sangham, which claims to have 350 members, will hold a convention here on Sunday to launch a struggle aimed at preventing misuse of laws by women with the connivance of police.



The association will provide a platform for those husbands who were implicated in false cases by their wives by misusing anti-dowry and other laws meant to protect women.



Association office-bearer Susheel Kumar said that there were hundreds of cases of women harassing their husbands and holding their in-laws' to ransom.



He said some women in connivance with police officials had implicated their husbands in false dowry cases and had even sent them behind bars.



Another office-bearer of the association, Mohammed Ali, said the proposed convention would discuss ways to curb the misuse of law.



He said the association planned to provide legal assistance to harassed husbands. He said efforts would be made to bring estranged couples together.



The association claimed that the number of men who were being subjected to mental and physical torture was increasing. It alleged that police officers, who were required to counsel the couple first, were straightaway taking men into judicial custody.

[The Crackednut]

Not that i am taking sides in this issue here, but here's a qs for FHi's here.



Why is that we have to have organisations of this sort ? When ppl are in distress what use is it to approach ppl of the same kind? First of all i personally feel if ppl are repeatedly harrassed and can't get out of it even when they can, it only speaks of their hopeless character. Be it men or women. So, coming back to my qs, why have forums or organisations where ppl only get together and "crib on each other's shoulder"? Shdn't each person find his/her own way out of their personal mess? I mean, aren't we all unique and individual?

[misuse_dowry_laws]

Here are some answers:



1) First of all, these organisations do not contain same kind of people. (only victims). These contains people who have already gone through the process. It also contains people who belong to Govt. Legal Cells in various states, a bunch of lawyers. The people involved work for creating awareness for a generic cause (certainly not for their own individual cases and cribing). In cases of false cases by women, the man and his family go through hell only before she files it and after another 4 days when they are in jail. After that they feel relieved. Moreover, the corrupting in judiciary and police is so hugh that one need a lot of consultancy to be safe. So people in trouble just get awareness. These was at least one case when parents of a guy who were framed in a false case just commited suicide (not being able to handle humiliation). I guy may have individuality. But what about his father, mother and grand parents.





2) So, far as the issue of Hopeless character of people is concerned, it is not so simple. Teh only thing we are not taught in life is "How to live life".



3) So far as individualism is concerned, all the people who are idealistic, individualist and principled have a greater chance of getting into these false cases. Cowards, fools, henpecked unprincipled fellows who shriek away from their duties towards others, do not get into these trouble. Those who demand and take hugh dowries and victimise women just go scot free. The system is like that.



4) India is one of the countries where there is a lot of hypocrisy and lack of individividualism is considered a great virtue. Guys earn money and put it into the hands of their parents and after marriage into the hands of wife or her parents. Moreoever every guy has got delivery deadlines, work pressure, traffic, responsibility of old parent, retirement solutions, apartment, layoffs, promotions, long hours of work and what not. A woman also has a lot of things (TV, Fridge, Washing machine, vacuum cleaner, internet to chat, cooking ranges). So when the life of a urban women is getting simpler, the responsibility of a guy has increased many fold. So often a guy just tries to compromise as he can not just afford trouble at home.



6) Indians are not as principle centred as western fellows even though I will disagree with western fellows in all other fronts.



5) The real situation is that we all are sitting pretty contented on a sleeping vulcano. The undercurrents are such that many social institutions will just go for toss. The divorce rate for techies is almost 30%. The way things are going, we need to start having old age homes and live-in relationships like in west. When marriage gets so costly and risky like in west, the institution goes for complete toss. The things to follows are screwed life of children. By the time, we grow old we will see EMINEMs in india (even though I like listening to him) and we have to start thinking of the best old age home where we go to die.



6) One must accept the things the way there are. At the same time, one must have open perspectives. With negativity one can not create positive effects. The Feminists induging in male bashing are not creating any things positive. So its needed to stop them.



7) Finally organisations are needed as we are social animals and societies need maintenace else it will just lay shattered. Socrates had great individuality. Still his wife Xanthiape used to bash him.



The cause here is more of maintaining social stability than fighting for Men's right. Else India would be a country like Thailand mass manufacturing prostitutes in the name of female liberation.



9) Today 20.11.2004, E-TV kannada gave a 15 minutes program of this organisation sangyabalya.

[The Jackal]

Dude just forget it.

[misuse_dowry_law]

Visit the link:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms. ... d=47076137



[b]Women misusing anti-dowry law: HC[/b]

IANS[ WEDNESDAY, MAY 21, 2003 06:22:45 PM ]



NEW DELHI: Observing that anti-dowry laws were being increasingly misused by wives to harass their husbands and in-laws, the Delhi High Court has urged the government to review their provisions.





Judge J D Kapoor urged the review while rejecting a plea by a woman petitioner, Savitri Devi, seeking the arrest of her brothers-in-law and sister-in-law for allegedly harassing her by demanding more dowry.



Kapoor said in his order passed on Tuesday: "I feel constrained to comment upon the misuse of the provisions (of law) to such an extent that it is hitting at the foundation of marriage itself and has proved to be not so good for the health of the society at large."



The judge observed: "There is a growing tendency to come out with inflated and exaggerated allegations, roping in each and every relation of the husband. If one of them happens to be of higher status or of vulnerable standing, he or she becomes an easy prey for better bargaining and blackmailing."



He added: "The ground realities have persuaded this court to recommend to the authorities and lawmakers to have a review of the situation and legal provisions."



The judgement came days after a headline-grabbing incident in which a young woman in the neighbouring town of Noida called off her wedding, moments before it was to begin after the groom-to-be demanded more dowry in addition to what he had already received.



Nisha Sharma told the police her in-laws were demanding Rs 12 lakhs in dowry. She also alleged that her would-be husband Munish Dalal had assaulted her father.



Dalal and his mother are in police custody and Nisha has become an icon for millions of Indian youth because of her bold step. However, her in-laws have alleged that they were being victimised because the girl had an affair with her classmate.



On Sunday, a Muslim woman refused to go to her husband's house after he too demanded more dowry. Police had registered a case but the issue is said to be in the process of being resolved through mutual consent.



Judge Kapoor, in his order, said the provisions of the anti-dowry laws "were made with good intentions but the implementation has left a very bad taste and has been counter-productive."



According to the anti-dowry laws, a non-bailable warrant is issued against the accused if a woman alleges she is being harassed by her husband and/or his relatives for dowry. People found guilty can be sent to jail for up to three years and/or fined.



Savitri Devi had filed a case last year urging her brothers-in-law and sister-in-law be arrested for demanding dowry. A city court rejected the plea, but ordered the framing of charges against Savitri Devi's husband and father-in-law.



She then challenged the lower court's order in the High Court.



Judge Kapoor agreed with the lower court's decision and found no evidence of harassment against Savitri Devi's brothers-in-law and sister-in-law.



"The only allegation against the respondents is that they did not like the customary gifts the petitioner had brought," said Kapoor. This, according to him, did not amount to cruelty or harassment.



"The petition is highly misconceived and is being used as a tool to hold the entire household to ransom and jeopardy," he said.



He also pulled up the investigating agencies for not doing their work properly.

[Truth]

http://patnipeeditmanch.gq.nu/

[oppose_male_bashing]

Are not there, cases of willful conduct of a woman which drives a man to commit suicide or to cause grave injury or danger to life, limb or health- whether mental or physical-to him ? h a v e a l o o k on few !

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Brother of a Police Commissioner committed suicide by hanging with a ceiling fan and left a note for his 4 yrs old son clearly naming persons abetting suicide (see FIR.204/90 Hari Nagar, Delhi), Rakesh Kathuria 25 yrs., too left suicidal note naming Delhi judges, Joginder Singh 22 yrs.- committed suicide in front of parliament left a note for the MPs & the Govt. Prof. Lalit Walia of Jullandhar (Pb) committed suicide with two kids left a note, Naresh Anand of Delhi committed suicide with a note naming police official of Woman Cell, Devender Singh 26 yrs.committed suicide & left a note naming woman cell police official Chandan singh, Lekhraj consumed poison in Manju Goels court, Rajkumar of Tilak Nagar, Chandan Singh among thousands of others



MENZ too were driven by women, their relatives, officials of Crime -women Cells, judges & the Govt., to commit suicides & suicides were committed naming the officials of the women cells, wives & their relatives, judges & the govt. in suicidal notes.



While dealing with lacs of menz cases & fighting for the cause of harassed husbands for the past about 25 years & flood of distress calls ON OUR TELE-HELP-LINE, via mails & emails of tortured husbands from world wide, force our conscious to appeal all concerned that time has come for the extension of clause ( A of 498, B of 304 of the IPC & 113 A and B of Indian Evidence Act ) to ..hapless husbands & their relatives too.



If an innocent tortured husband after being fed up with harassment & domestic violence, knocks at the doors of justice for his problem, finds himself in the coils of a snake. How long tears of husbands would be mocked at ? are they not human being ? are they not entitled to seek protection like animals for whom Law enacted for animals Rashtriya Sahara 26.6.2001 & recently the Honble High Court of Delhi, directed Delhi Govt. to arrange mobile courts to rescue ill-treated animals ! and report the same to the Honble High Court ( see Times of India 20.11.2002 ). ..Copy attached



Will Honble Supreme Court of India or National Human Rights Commission be kind enough to pass similar directions to the Union of India for setting up a forum, help-line or teams to seek report of the plight of tortured / ill-treated husbands from Crime Against Women Cells, Distt. & High Courts hearing bails, courts of metropolitan magistrates dealing with dowry cases .

[The Jackal]

Dude no one is replying to your posts.You know why?Because they are too long to read.So why dont you shorten them.

[Truth]

Replies are not really expected as many people think that this(harassement of men) is a non-issue as evident in previous replies. Because, men are just conditioned not to acknowledge that they are in trouble. Dowry system hurts more men (eg. the girl's father) than women. A guy will have very less chance of taking dowry if his mother stands up against it. Still, the men are blamed for dowry system.



These articles are meant to create awareness, so that somebody in trouble can get at least some moral support. Most people approach sangyabalya because they have come across it over internet.

[misuse_dowry_laws]

Even US State Department has Better awareness than many INDIANs.



http://travel.state.gov/travel/india.html



DOWRY/VISA DEMANDS: A number of U.S. citizen men who have come to India to marry Indian nationals have been arrested and charged with crimes related to dowry extraction. Many of the charges stem from the U.S. citizen's inability to provide an immigrant visa for his prospective spouse to travel immediately to the United States. The courts sometimes order the U.S. citizen to pay large sums of money to his spouse in exchange for the dismissal of charges. The courts normally confiscate the American's passport, and he must remain in India until the case has been settled. There are also cases of U.S. citizen women whose families force them against their will into marriages to Indian nationals.

[Truth]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... 931940.cms



Men at the receiving end

VINITA A SHETTY



TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 23, 2004 02:50:30 AM ]



The number of harassed husbands is on the rise, particularly among techies ......... read on.....

[misuse_dowry_laws]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/arti ... 445168.cms



Fiancee held for Intel staffer's murder



TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ MONDAY, JANUARY 26, 2004 01:45:46 AM ]



BANGALORE: The fiancee of Intel staffer B V Girish, who was fatally assaulted in December near the 'flight landing point' on the Intermediate Ring Road, was arrested on Sunday for allegedly plotting his murder. ..........read on....

[DQ]

Good but sloppy research. "Making an issue outta non issue."



For every 1 male harrassed there are 300 females harrassed at the same time.



The existing laws are too soft. We need stricter stringent laws!!!

NRI’s wife kills herself





Hyderabad, Nov. 23: An NRI’s wife committed suicide in the wee hours of Tuesday at her parents residence in Srinivasapuram near Ramnathapur due to the alleged harassment of her husband, a software engineer working in New Jersey, US, and her in-laws. M Rajashri, 25, wife of M Srinivas, 29, hanged herself at around 3.30 am on Tuesday minutes after her husband spoke to her on phone from New Jersey.



The Uppal police registered a case of dowry death and sent a special team to Warangal to nab the in-laws of Rajashri, a native of Hanmakonda. The marriage of Rajashri, a civil engineer and Srinivas, a computer engineer, was solemnised in the city on November 20, 2003, the Uppal police said.





TIMES OF INDIA (ePAPER)

18th November 2004.

In another incident, a 19-year-old housewife, Syeda Sakeena Fatima of Darabjung Galli, was allegedly set on fire by her husband, Mir Nasir Ali, an employee of Transco, on Nov. 13. She died while undergoing treatment at the Osmania General Hospital on Tuesday.



The Mir Chowk police, who recorded the woman's statement, said Syeda and Nasir married on Oct. 14 last year. Nasir was given Rs 25,000 cash, a motorcycle and four tolas of gold by his in-laws.But he began pestering his wife for Rs 10,000 more. When she refused to ask her parents, Nasir would beat her, the police added.







The harassment of young married women; their physical and mental torture, sometimes a murder or abetment to suicide continues to haunt Indian society like a continuing curse over the centuries



And we are very soft on that. We need to admonish and if these laws are misused so be it until this curse is eradicated.

[hobby_male_bashing]

Hello DQ,



I can understand your outrage and your outrage proves that the research is not sloppy. It shows how baised people like you are....



Moreover, would you like to say that the US State department has written the warning to NRI men based on the sloppy research provided by me ? Man, I never knew I am so important.

http://travel.state.gov/travel/india.html

[misuse_dowry_laws]

Hello DQ,

Before challenging others, get facts straight. There is already a bill in RAJYA SABHA on Amendment of Laws. See page 14 point(3).



Visit:

rajyasabha.nic.in/legislative/ amendbills/home/LX_2003.pdf



In Rajya Sabha
3. Section 498-A of Indian Penal Code, 1860 provides punishment to husband or relatives of husband of a woman subjecting her to cruelty. It has been widely reported that this provision has been misused and is also harsh as it is non-compoundable. It is, therefore, proposed to make the offence a compoundable one.



Can you please let us know what exactly you mean by more stringent laws (so far as dowry act is concerned) ? I doubt if you know the present laws in the first place.



Please let us also know, if it is proved (BEYOND DOUBT) that the woman filed a false case, then what punishment the woman should get.

[DQ]

Hello DQ,
Before challenging others, get facts straight. There is already a bill in RAJYA SABHA on Amendment of Laws. See page 14 point(3).

Visit:
rajyasabha.nic.in/legislative/ amendbills/home/LX_2003.pdf

In Rajya Sabha
3. Section 498-A of Indian Penal Code, 1860 provides punishment to husband or relatives of husband of a woman subjecting her to cruelty. It has been widely reported that this provision has been misused and is also harsh as it is non-compoundable. It is, therefore, proposed to make the offence a compoundable one.

Can you please let us know what exactly you mean by more stringent laws (so far as dowry act is concerned) ? I doubt if you know the present laws in the first place.

Please let us also know, if it is proved (BEYOND DOUBT) that the woman filed a false case, then what punishment the woman should get.

WETHER ITS A WRONG OR RIGHT CASE THE MAN SHOULD BE PUNISHED. UNTIL DOWRY AT VICES RELATED TO IT ARE ERADICATED IF A FEW MEN SUFFER SO BE IT.



CASES SUCH AS THIS HAVE TO STOP !!!!



For nineteen-year-old Rinki dreams of a happily married life was never to be. Barely a month after her marriage, she was allegedly tortured and then set ablaze by her in-laws for dowry in Indiranagar in the small hours of Saturday.



Stringent laws. I tell ya it will put you off dude, as it is you have taken life too seriously, If I let you know my proposals it would be abetment to ......... god knows what.



AN Estimate of 400 dowry deaths a year and you say downplay it. HUH.

[DQ]

AS far as your research goes. IS this what you are referring to.


DOWRY/VISA DEMANDS: A number of U.S. citizen men who have come to India to marry Indian nationals have been arrested and charged with crimes related to dowry extraction. Many of the charges stem from the U.S. citizen's inability to provide an immigrant visa for his prospective spouse to travel immediately to the United States.
^^^

OH REALLY, The true scenario, Return ticket paid by the Brides side. $20000 to $100000 paid as dowry. Gifts and wedding ceremony and hosting of Grooms freinds in 5 star hotels.
After all this
1. Girl is too conservative, I cant take her to the US. Look for another girl.
2. Girl will not go to the US and insist on leading an independant life. I will lock her in my apartment and use her as a showpiece, she should not mingle, she should not visit distant or near relative (life is busy there) etc etc etc.
3. If visa is rejected, I will not come back. I will come back to remarry. I will not settle in India for the girls sake.

And you expect the Indian govt to turn a blind eye to this and heed an unresearched advisory MMMPH

Saale char din kya India se bahar nikle Akad dekhe

The courts sometimes order the U.S. citizen to pay large sums of money to his spouse in exchange for the dismissal of charges.

Exactly if the guy thinks that its a pay per visit, then he should realise kitna mehnga shauk karra

The courts normally confiscate the American's passport, and he must remain in India until the case has been settled.

Settled right, and if found guilty, what action is the US govt taking. Why dont they cancel VISAs of such cool dudes.

There are also cases of U.S. citizen women whose families force them against their will into marriages to Indian nationals.





Have you heard about this, overseas qualified Katnam is doubled ?



The advisory by the state dept goes on to show how misinformed the dept is of the local scenario. Me biased, don't you see the narrow view of the state dept. Its only seeing the detention of a citizen, overlooking the crime that he is creating.



While the US is trying to protect its citizen. India in the process of elimination of a vice is doing right by protecting its citizens, not only confsiticating of passports, those found guilty should be go through 10 to lifetime (where multiple marriages are proved) yrs [b]RIGOROUS[/] imprisonments.

[Truth]

Hello DQ,



I appreciate your enthusiasm.



You mentioned the typical dowry amounts to NRIs paid by Bride's father as $20,000 to $1,00,000 apart from the 5 star hotel costs and marriage costs.



$20,000 = Rs. 9 lacs

$100,000= Rs. 45 lacs




If we take average, it is about Rs.27 lacs.




Why the hell the Bride's father offer dowry in the first place to the NRI ? If he puts 27 lacs in stock market with proper portfolio management, he can get Rs.8 lacs per year for his daughter. Then, he can marry his daughter to a guy from Orphanage with/without job and keep him in his house like a Ghar Jamai.



The truth is that DOWRY system became as menace in 1960s, when the Brides families started competing with each other for getting a high status better earning groom. Then the Chain reaction started.



How many women in 100 would like to marry a guy who is less educated than her and who has lesser or no income ?

[misuse_dowry_laws]

Hello DQ,



I appreciate your great sense of logic. I really appreciate your response to my Question "What punishment do you recomment if it is proven BEYOND DOUBT that the Woman has filed a false case ?"


DQ Responded:
WETHER ITS A WRONG OR RIGHT CASE THE MAN SHOULD BE PUNISHED. UNTIL DOWRY AT VICES RELATED TO IT ARE ERADICATED IF A FEW MEN SUFFER SO BE IT.



This is nothing but FASCISM (where deeds of a very small section of people is blamed on an entire gender). Certainly, you must join some very powerful FEMINAZIES (Militant Feminists, who think if they bash and victimise innocent men at random, then females will have better life).



Read this newpaper article, where the Boy's parents commit Suicide due to False dowry case by the Woman. Now, the woman and her father are booked. So, you must admit that my research is far from being sloppy. You have already termed US State Department as Sloppy. So Now, you do not say that the Judge in this particular case is sloppy.





http://www.hindu.com/2004/02/15/stories ... 500600.htm



Spare innocent in-laws, judge tells probe authorities

By A. Subramani







CHENNAI, FEB.14. The Madras High Court has cautioned investigating authorities against arraying ``innocent in-laws'' as accused in dowry cases.



``Only when the authorities are fully satisfied that the in-laws are really involved in harassment, shall they be implicated as accused,'' said Justice A.K. Rajan.



He was dismissing an anticipatory bail plea by one Sangeetha, her father and two brothers, who moved the court as her parents-in-law committed suicide leaving behind a note stating they were unable to bear her harassment allegations.

Ms. Sangeetha lodged a complaint against her husband, T. Vignesh, and his parents, in the Sooramangalam police station (Salem), alleging that she was being harassed for dowry.



After getting a stay on the operation of the first information report, Mr. Vignesh preferred a complaint against his wife and in-laws. All of them obtained anticipatory bail.



Meanwhile, his parents committed suicide.

In their suicide note they said they were taking the extreme step ``due to the false complaint of dowry demand.''



Following a petition from Mr. Vignesh, the High Court directed the police to alter the case into Section 306 IPC.



The anticipatory bail was preferred by Ms. Sangeetha, her father Balakrishnan, and brothers, Iyyappan and Selvaraj following the alteration of charges.



Suicide note as dying declaration





Mr. Justice Rajan, holding that the conduct of Ms. Sangeetha and others was ``proximate to the death of the parents of Mr. Vignesh,'' said, ``prima facie, the suicide note left behind by the parents of Mr. Vignesh, can be treated as a dying declaration.



It appears that they committed suicide only due to the allegation made against them by Ms. Sangeetha that they demanded dowry.

[DQ]

Hello DQ,

I appreciate your great sense of logic. I really appreciate your response to my Question "What punishment do you recomment if it is proven BEYOND DOUBT that the Woman has filed a false case ?"


DQ Responded:
WETHER ITS A WRONG OR RIGHT CASE THE MAN SHOULD BE PUNISHED. UNTIL DOWRY AT VICES RELATED TO IT ARE ERADICATED IF A FEW MEN SUFFER SO BE IT.

This is nothing but FASCISM (where deeds of a very small section of people is blamed on an entire gender). Certainly, you must join some very powerful FEMINAZIES (Militant Feminists, who think if they bash and victimise innocent men at random, then females will have better life).

Read this newpaper article, where the Boy's parents commit Suicide due to False dowry case by the Woman. Now, the woman and her father are booked. So, you must admit that my research is far from being sloppy. You have already termed US State Department as Sloppy. So Now, you do not say that the Judge in this particular case is sloppy.


http://www.hindu.com/2004/02/15/stories ... 500600.htm

Spare innocent in-laws, judge tells probe authorities
By A. Subramani



CHENNAI, FEB.14. The Madras High Court has cautioned investigating authorities against arraying ``innocent in-laws'' as accused in dowry cases.

``Only when the authorities are fully satisfied that the in-laws are really involved in harassment, shall they be implicated as accused,'' said Justice A.K. Rajan.

He was dismissing an anticipatory bail plea by one Sangeetha, her father and two brothers, who moved the court as her parents-in-law committed suicide leaving behind a note stating they were unable to bear her harassment allegations.

Ms. Sangeetha lodged a complaint against her husband, T. Vignesh, and his parents, in the Sooramangalam police station (Salem), alleging that she was being harassed for dowry.

After getting a stay on the operation of the first information report, Mr. Vignesh preferred a complaint against his wife and in-laws. All of them obtained anticipatory bail.

Meanwhile, his parents committed suicide.

In their suicide note they said they were taking the extreme step ``due to the false complaint of dowry demand.''

Following a petition from Mr. Vignesh, the High Court directed the police to alter the case into Section 306 IPC.

The anticipatory bail was preferred by Ms. Sangeetha, her father Balakrishnan, and brothers, Iyyappan and Selvaraj following the alteration of charges.

Suicide note as dying declaration


Mr. Justice Rajan, holding that the conduct of Ms. Sangeetha and others was ``proximate to the death of the parents of Mr. Vignesh,'' said, ``prima facie, the suicide note left behind by the parents of Mr. Vignesh, can be treated as a dying declaration.

It appears that they committed suicide only due to the allegation made against them by Ms. Sangeetha that they demanded dowry.

SO 1 Case in a million ....blip!!!



Woh Mard Mard hi kya jo dahej mangna apni shaan samajtha hain.



Actually Men should start a organisation to fight these "KATNAM" seeking Males. SAALE MARDANGI PE DHABBA HAIN.

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