A day of great shame.

[Amit]

Today was the one of the most insulting days in our history. The way

Sankarcharya - the greatest of our spiritual gurus was arrested in

such a humiliating way.

Tell you what, Hinduism today is impotent. There

is not a hint of protest anywhere. Today, "Wish the Men in Blue for

the match against Pakistan" message boards like these is where you'd

find all pseudo-intellectual, "elite" indians would throng to. And,

the news of Sankaracharya's arrest is relegated to third / fourth "top

story". Today, even if a suspected ISI agent is arrested, angry mobs

would bring governements to its knees. And today, is the same day when

Sankacharya being huddled away during a puja on the eve of Deepavali

evokes hardly any reaction from people. It's even more devastating to know that both these occured in this very own city of mine - Hyderabad.

No doubt there is something terribly wrong with the world we are in. No doubt we are a part of it and no doubt we are all responsible for it.

I can't imagine how mean could a man become all for power. No doubt the whole sequence of events was foisted by our messiah of the downtrodden - karunanidhi. We need a Vivekananda. We need a Vivekananda to do what Adi Sankara did in his lifetime. We need reform. We need organization. We need an identity.

[The Crackednut]

Pray brother... cd u tell us the reasons behind the seer's arrest. I have not been able to collect matter on the news/papers. Do u have any info? It is quite a surprise that such a respected personality shd b accused in a murder case...

[Habitual Perfectionist]

Today was the one of the most insulting days in our history.

Not by any standards.

The way Sankarcharya - the greatest of our spiritual gurus was arrested in such a humiliating way.

No sweat off my balls.

Tell you what, Hinduism today is impotent. There
is not a hint of protest anywhere. Today, "Wish the Men in Blue for
the match against Pakistan" message boards like these is where you'd
find all pseudo-intellectual, "elite" indians would throng to. And,
the news of Sankaracharya's arrest is relegated to third / fourth "top
story".

Agree that the religion is impotent. But not because the arrest was not protested. It is so because the custodians of the religion (read clergy) are deviating from their path and are getting involved into worldly matters like state politics et al. Why? who knows if he was really involved in the murder? Going by the way these sanyasis behave, its an insult to the very institution of Sanyas.

And pray tell me...what's wrong in wishing the men in blue success against pakistan? Atleast they give us something to feel proud about. What have these modern day Shankaracharyas given us?

Today, even if a suspected ISI agent is arrested, angry mobs would bring governements to its knees. And today, is the same day when Sankacharya being huddled away during a puja on the eve of Deepavali evokes hardly any reaction from people.

Again....I'm very much against the protests that happen when suspected ISI operatives are arrested. Because that is an obstruction of justice. Now, does it mean that if dogs bite you, you bite them back? (No offense intended against muslim bretheren).

No doubt there is something terribly wrong with the world we are in. No doubt we are a part of it and no doubt we are all responsible for it.

Yes...we are responsible for what's happening around us. Open your eyes...open your heart...and never forget that we are all children of the same God. Religion is manmade. If you are in sync with the universal truth, you will never feel any difference between a hindu and a muslim and a christian and whatever.

I can't imagine how mean could a man become all for power.

Neither can I. I can't believe how much power has blinded these custodians of our religion. Its commonplace to see them huddled close to politicians. Can a common man like you or me gain audience with these pontiffs that easily? No. Why? Isn't this a clear proof of power blinding the great Shankaracharyas too?

No doubt the whole sequence of events was foisted by our messiah of the downtrodden - karunanidhi. We need a Vivekananda. We need a Vivekananda to do what Adi Sankara did in his lifetime. We need reform. We need organization. We need an identity.

There is an AIADMK government that rules TN. And your beloved Karunanidhi is in the opposition. How can the opposition so blatantly use government machinery to further its agenda? Togadia said tha and you believed him. So much for potency.

[The Jackal]

So what if he got arrested!!!!!!!!!!He helped in a murderer,so that means hes guilty.Guys like you want to create disturbance just because someone from your religion got caught.So what if he was doing puja.Guilty!!!!By the looks of it you sound like an NRI.

[Habitual Perfectionist]

So what if he got arrested!!!!!!!!!!He helped in a murderer,so that means hes guilty.Guys like you want to create disturbance just because someone from your religion got caught.So what if he was doing puja.Guilty!!!!By the looks of it you sound like an NRI.

By the looks of it, he sounds more like Pravin Togadia in disguise.

[CtrlAltDel]

i wish a certain fuzzy haired gay godman living in south andhra pradesh got arrested first..

[lonewolf]

i wish a certain fuzzy haired gay godman living in south andhra pradesh got arrested first..

Who is that???

[CtrlAltDel]

i wish a certain fuzzy haired gay godman living in south andhra pradesh got arrested first..

Who is that???

i wont say it.....there cud be devotees here...

[lonewolf]

i wont say it.....there cud be devotees here...

I know about the one in Putt*, and his clone somewhere in Kurnool. But never knew that one of them was gay Are you serious or are you in gay mood today?

[asli_badmash]

i wish a certain fuzzy haired gay godman living in south andhra pradesh got arrested first..

Who is that???

i wont say it.....there cud be devotees here...

Carefull before you have your "FUZZY HAIR" burnt..



and I wont say what FUZZY HAIR...



Q: If you have fuzzy hair on your head.. is it valid to say you have FUZZY HAIR all over ?



BTW; I am not fuzzy haired godman's devotee. I bow to the GOD only.

[The Jackal]

So there are 2 people in the DB that hate the guy.Now its 3.Not bad I thought everyone else likes the guy.

[lonewolf]

So there are 2 people in the DB that hate the guy.Now its 3.Not bad I thought everyone else likes the guy.

Another hate relationship is that the original one in PuTTY and his clone hate each other

[godmen]

ITS HIGH TIME FROM SHANKARACHARYA'S EPISODE THAT WE DO NOT MAKE HUMANS INTO GOD.



WE SHOULD RESPECT THE SCHOLARS/SAINTS BUT TO A LEVEL WHERE THEY DO NOT THINK OR ACT LIKE GOD. WE HAVE A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SO MAY STORIES FROM PUTTAPARTHI AND OTHER SMALLER SO CALED GOD'S.



SO WE ALL ARE RELIGIOUS. PRAY GOD BUTRELIGION SHOULD BE IN YOUR HOME.IT SHOULD NOT STEP OUTSIDE THE HOUSE. ITS SOMETHING PERSONAL. SO NOW WE SHOULD STOP PREACHING GODMEN AND LOOK FOR PEACE IN GOD

[The Jackal]

So there are 2 people in the DB that hate the guy.Now its 3.Not bad I thought everyone else likes the guy.

Another hate relationship is that the original one in PuTTY and his clone hate each other

There is a clone too!!!!!!!!!!?OMG now we have to deal w/ 2 of them.

[lonewolf]

Another hate relationship is that the original one in PuTTY and his clone hate each other

There is a clone too!!!!!!!!!!?OMG now we have to deal w/ 2 of them. [/quote]



PuTTY's clone used to imitate him when he was a kid.. sitting at the marketplace in Kurnool and prophesise. After he grew up, he also grew his hair the same way and decided to get a job as a godman. I don't know the real reason between the conflict between the original PuTTY and his clone.

[ycr007]

So there are 2 people in the DB that hate the guy.Now its 3.Not bad I thought everyone else likes the guy.

*raises hand* Me an atheist

[CtrlAltDel]

So there are 2 people in the DB that hate the guy.Now its 3.Not bad I thought everyone else likes the guy.

*raises hand* Me an atheist

me no atheist, but hate godmen and rituals.

[CtrlAltDel]

I know about the one in Putt*, and his clone somewhere in Kurnool. But never knew that one of them was gay Are you serious or are you in gay mood today?

its alleged (but not proved) that putt-putt is gay. but thats nothing to do with why i hate him.

[Amit]

First off, I am nothing to do with the VHP and I have often been critical of its attempts of "churchification" of the Hindu religion. Secondly, I am no NRI either, I travel extensively on work though.



I don't believe in godmen. Sankacharya, all the same. Now, all that I was venting my angst was coz of the "differential" treatment. I just get pissed off with the way things that work aren't the same for all religions. That's all. If you had read what I had written, I had called in for reformation of Hinduism. I know theat Religion as a bundle of such socio-cultural norms evolves over time. Sure enough, every religion develops some norms and

practices, which are against the very basic principles that the religion was supposed to stand for. That is why every relgion needs reformers from time to time, who will correct the course. Reformers have a more difficult time in religions that are based on one book,where all truth was revealed to a chosen one at a particular point in history and no further revelations are either possible or permitted. On the other hand, relgions like Hinduism, Shintoism and other pagan religions have a constant evolution and reform is accepted as a continuous process, even though there might be some resistance.



Dude, honestly, I am quite glad I stumbled upon someone like you - a classic case of malformed evolution - who cant think of anything beyond heaping one helluva lot of crap on anything that sounds above one's intellectual capacity. Just that I am disappointed you stand by psydellic rock - what you flaunt in most annoyingly glaring ways. You have no clue what rock stands for, save religion for the never.

Today was the one of the most insulting days in our history.

Not by any standards.

A small caveat here. You'd find the word "our", which i had forgotten to qualify. Hope you'd find where you rightfully belong.

The way Sankarcharya - the greatest of our spiritual gurus was arrested in such a humiliating way.

No sweat off my balls.

I am sure they were never put to work.

Tell you what, Hinduism today is impotent. There
is not a hint of protest anywhere. Today, "Wish the Men in Blue for
the match against Pakistan" message boards like these is where you'd
find all pseudo-intellectual, "elite" indians would throng to. And,
the news of Sankaracharya's arrest is relegated to third / fourth "top
story".

Agree that the religion is impotent. But not because the arrest was not protested. It is so because the custodians of the religion (read clergy) are deviating from their path and are getting involved into worldly matters like state politics et al. Why? who knows if he was really involved in the murder? Going by the way these sanyasis behave, its an insult to the very institution of Sanyas.

And pray tell me...what's wrong in wishing the men in blue success against pakistan? Atleast they give us something to feel proud about. What have these modern day Shankaracharyas given us?

Today, even if a suspected ISI agent is arrested, angry mobs would bring governements to its knees. And today, is the same day when Sankacharya being huddled away during a puja on the eve of Deepavali evokes hardly any reaction from people.

Again....I'm very much against the protests that happen when suspected ISI operatives are arrested. Because that is an obstruction of justice. Now, does it mean that if dogs bite you, you bite them back? (No offense intended against muslim bretheren).

No doubt there is something terribly wrong with the world we are in. No doubt we are a part of it and no doubt we are all responsible for it.

Yes...we are responsible for what's happening around us. Open your eyes...open your heart...and never forget that we are all children of the same God. Religion is manmade. If you are in sync with the universal truth, you will never feel any difference between a hindu and a muslim and a christian and whatever.

I can't imagine how mean could a man become all for power.

Neither can I. I can't believe how much power has blinded these custodians of our religion. Its commonplace to see them huddled close to politicians. Can a common man like you or me gain audience with these pontiffs that easily? No. Why? Isn't this a clear proof of power blinding the great Shankaracharyas too?

No doubt the whole sequence of events was foisted by our messiah of the downtrodden - karunanidhi. We need a Vivekananda. We need a Vivekananda to do what Adi Sankara did in his lifetime. We need reform. We need organization. We need an identity.

There is an AIADMK government that rules TN. And your beloved Karunanidhi is in the opposition. How can the opposition so blatantly use government machinery to further its agenda? Togadia said tha and you believed him. So much for potency.

[malakpetmasala]

i wish a certain fuzzy haired gay godman living in south andhra pradesh got arrested first..

i wish so too, but i am not really sure he is reachable.

How do u think they could ever reach him when you see the prime ministers/presidents of the past touching his feet?

And there was one particular show on BBC once about this god man, by a brit indian chick where she tries to investiga ehe case of eh murder of 2 boys in his ashram in 1991. the most interesting part of the story was her interview with Murli Manohar joshi, i did nt know he was such an asss hole, heturned violent and almost hit the documentary maker.



And who says India is the only democracy where religion does not interfeere in its smooth functioning?

[Habitual Perfectionist]

First off, I am nothing to do with the VHP and I have often been critical of its attempts of "churchification" of the Hindu religion. Secondly, I am no NRI either, I travel extensively on work though.

Nobody ever said you are a VHP office bearer. We just said you sounded like one. Chill.

Now, all that I was venting my angst was coz of the "differential" treatment. I just get pissed off with the way things that work aren't the same for all religions. That's all.

That's where you sounded like one.

If you had read what I had written, I had called in for reformation of Hinduism. I know theat Religion as a bundle of such socio-cultural norms evolves over time. Sure enough, every religion develops some norms and
practices, which are against the very basic principles that the religion was supposed to stand for. That is why every relgion needs reformers from time to time, who will correct the course. Reformers have a more difficult time in religions that are based on one book,where all truth was revealed to a chosen one at a particular point in history and no further revelations are either possible or permitted. On the other hand, relgions like Hinduism, Shintoism and other pagan religions have a constant evolution and reform is accepted as a continuous process, even though there might be some resistance.[/quote]

Again....I never objected the reform message in your post. I only objected against the premise on which you called for reform. Just because a clergyman was arrested on a festival? Amuses me that you had to call me a case of malinformed evolution.

Dude, honestly, I am quite glad I stumbled upon someone like you - a classic case of malformed evolution - who cant think of anything beyond heaping one helluva lot of crap on anything that sounds above one's intellectual capacity. Just that I am disappointed you stand by psydellic rock - what you flaunt in most annoyingly glaring ways. You have no clue what rock stands for, save religion for the never.

I didn't heap any crap on you. I just presented my P-o-V on the topic you raised. As for my avatar, its not about psychedellic rock my dear friend....its about psychedellica itself. And yes...I have no clue what rock stands for. I just like listening to it and immensely enjoy it.



But if you talk about religion, I invite you to a debate on the boards. Let's see what we can gain from the exercise.

[The Jackal]

HP please let it go.I thought this thread was buried.

[Habitual Perfectionist]

HP please let it go.I thought this thread was buried.

Even I was under the same impression. And all I wanted was to answer Amit's queries. Nothing more...no flames here.

[The Jackal]

HP please let it go.I thought this thread was buried.

Even I was under the same impression. And all I wanted was to answer Amit's queries. Nothing more...no flames here.

Yeah but that guy Amit left.God knows if he checks the DB regularly.

[Amit]

HP please let it go.I thought this thread was buried.

Even I was under the same impression. And all I wanted was to answer Amit's queries. Nothing more...no flames here.

Sure dude, we could debate all that's about religion, life, universe and everything on some other thread probably. Sorry for being rather offensive, one of those moments of hyper-reaction. And yes, I am not sure why you disagree to my point of "differential" treatment.